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OpenlyGator 11/15/19 9:08:44 AM #51:	DaveTheUseless posted... I actually didn't know the prenup = worthless thing ruh roh raggy Yeah, oddly enough it's also had a negative impact on women looking to marry as well. Higher caliber men (high status/success/intelligence) tend to be harder to convince into settling down with marriage today. Before the turn of the century the prenup USED TO BE a go-to for reassuring those men that their assets were safe if the marriage fell apart. And for a time it worked. Some women eager to get hitched to a successful man could have convinced him to finally propose by agreeing to a prenup, which still had merit back then. Thanks to the western legal system casually dismissing or tossing out prenups in a multitude of documented cases (including the wealthy and powerful), prenups lost their former credibility. They're no longer treated as a "guarantee" among educated successful men anymore. And guarantees are what most educated successful men are looking for with long term investments...including marriage. This has has contributed to the modern woman's difficulty in reeling in an intelligent husband with success under his belt because that very caliber of man would likely be one of the most aware that a prenup is now worthless. --- The funny thing about telling others to take the high road is how often it's hypocritical advice. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/28/IdSqD.png <cite>OpenlyGator posted [p:930169493] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>DaveTheUseless posted...</cite> <quote>I actually didn't know the prenup = worthless thing ruh roh raggy </quote> Yeah, oddly enough it's also had a negative impact on women looking to marry as well. Higher caliber men (high status/success/intelligence) tend to be harder to convince into settling down with marriage today. Before the turn of the century the prenup USED TO BE a go-to for reassuring those men that their assets were safe if the marriage fell apart. And for a time it worked. Some women eager to get hitched to a successful man could have convinced him to finally propose by agreeing to a prenup, which still had merit back then. Thanks to the western legal system casually dismissing or tossing out prenups in a multitude of documented cases (including the wealthy and powerful), prenups lost their former credibility. They're no longer treated as a "guarantee" among educated successful men anymore. And guarantees are what most educated successful men are looking for with long term investments...including marriage. This has has contributed to the modern woman's difficulty in reeling in an intelligent husband with success under his belt because that very caliber of man would likely be one of the most aware that a prenup is now worthless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Infost 11/15/19 9:19:01 AM #52:	The economy is competitive, so you're not going to see as many wealthy men as in the past, because now women also compete. And the wealthy men who remain aren't always going to date wealthy women; they don't value career status as often, so they're just as likely to date lower earning women instead. Get used to it or do without, this isn't the worst problem to have in dating. --- Filler sig. <cite>Infost posted [p:930169863] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>The economy is competitive, so you're not going to see as many wealthy men as in the past, because now women also compete. And the wealthy men who remain aren't always going to date wealthy women; they don't value career status as often, so they're just as likely to date lower earning women instead. Get used to it or do without, this isn't the worst problem to have in dating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 11/15/19 9:37:04 AM #53:	garan posted... Too bad for those women. If they've got good careers & are making money, then they shouldn't need to find some well off guy to support them. Things like this are why a lot of guys perceive women to be gold diggers. Right, those women are gold diggers for wanting men with stable jobs and no crazy debt. How terrible. I have a career and make good money, I dont need a man to support me but I need one to contribute his fair share. Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:930170443] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>garan posted... </cite> <quote>Too bad for those women. If they've got good careers & are making money, then they shouldn't need to find some well off guy to support them. Things like this are why a lot of guys perceive women to be gold diggers.</quote>Right, those women are gold diggers for wanting men with stable jobs and no crazy debt. How terrible. I have a career and make good money, I dont need a man to support me but I need one to contribute his fair share. Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 11/15/19 9:49:37 AM #54:	Men struggling financially is being presented as a women's issue. Fucking bizarro world. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:930170893] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Men struggling financially is being presented as a women's issue. Fucking bizarro world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/15/19 9:51:07 AM #55:	There's a LITTLE merit to the idea, since having a good income does exhibit ambition and commitment. I think it's definitely overstated in importance, especially to romantic relationships, though. --- Tell me how you feel upon learning that I write MLP fanfiction. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:930170938] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>There's a LITTLE merit to the idea, since having a good income does exhibit ambition and commitment. I think it's definitely overstated in importance, especially to romantic relationships, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NonDairyMiltank 11/15/19 9:51:27 AM #57:	shnangyboos posted... Men struggling financially is being presented as a women's issue. Fucking bizarro world. you basically just summed up the article lol --- Moo. #Listen&Investigate <cite>NonDairyMiltank posted [p:930170955] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Men struggling financially is being presented as a women's issue. Fucking bizarro world. </quote> you basically just summed up the article lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxKrazyChaosxX 11/15/19 9:53:31 AM #58:	I had a guy ask me for a raise because his wife made more than him and he said it embarrassed him. --- "I woke up at four am by accident in time for the paper to be delivered. Guess what? It's not a kid on a bike, it's a man in a car." - Kevin Malone <cite>XxKrazyChaosxX posted [p:930171020] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>I had a guy ask me for a raise because his wife made more than him and he said it embarrassed him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 11/15/19 10:01:09 AM #59:	Coastal_elite posted... yes. And there's nothing wrong with that. Men like looks, women like status. Men care about boob size, women care about height. Men care about weight, women care about muscles. We just have to accept that none of the 2 genders should be in a pedestal Glad I didn't have to come in to post common sense. People live to villianize being attracted to things. It's ridiculous. Unless you are a bi, no age limit for those of legal age, don't care about looks, job, status, etc. You just need to accept you are also "shallow" and being attracted to certain things doesn't automatically make you a bad person. It's crazy who acceptable it has become to vilify people for being attracted to things that have been the case through all of history. Glad I live in a country where this attitude hasn't spread much yet. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:930171274] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted... </cite> <quote>yes. And there's nothing wrong with that. Men like looks, women like status. Men care about boob size, women care about height. Men care about weight, women care about muscles. We just have to accept that none of the 2 genders should be in a pedestal</quote> Glad I didn't have to come in to post common sense. People live to villianize being attracted to things. It's ridiculous. Unless you are a bi, no age limit for those of legal age, don't care about looks, job, status, etc. You just need to accept you are also "shallow" and being attracted to certain things doesn't automatically make you a bad person. It's crazy who acceptable it has become to vilify people for being attracted to things that have been the case through all of history. Glad I live in a country where this attitude hasn't spread much yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sad_Face 11/15/19 10:30:15 AM #61:	ssjevot posted... Glad I didn't have to come in to post common sense. People live to villify being attracted to things. It's ridiculous. Unless you are a bi, no age limit for those of legal age, don't care about looks, job, status, etc. You just need to accept you are also "shallow" and being attracted to certain things doesn't automatically make you a bad person. It's crazy who acceptable it has become to vilify people for being attracted to things that have been the case through all of history. Glad I live in a country where this attitude hasn't spread much yet. The mistake you along with all the critics are making in this topic is that you're treating each of these as issues independently. When you raise the standards for women, for instance their salary, their expectations for suitable men will also increase. They make 60K, they want a guy within that range, and for those who want to marry up, guys need to have much higher salaries. Given that guys and gals are competing for the same jobs, this makes things more difficult for guys to achieve. Couple this with the difficulty of the dating game where the top 20% of guys get most of the attention and we're seeing a scenario where guys are losing their self-worth to the point of flat out giving up on themselves and the world. As a result, MGTOW, inceldom, and suicides (as mentioned before in this topic) are on the rise. It's not as straightforward as you make it out to be. Far from it. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:930172284] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted...</cite> <quote>Glad I didn't have to come in to post common sense. People live to villify being attracted to things. It's ridiculous. Unless you are a bi, no age limit for those of legal age, don't care about looks, job, status, etc. You just need to accept you are also "shallow" and being attracted to certain things doesn't automatically make you a bad person. It's crazy who acceptable it has become to vilify people for being attracted to things that have been the case through all of history. Glad I live in a country where this attitude hasn't spread much yet.</quote> The mistake you along with all the critics are making in this topic is that you're treating each of these as issues independently. When you raise the standards for women, for instance their salary, their expectations for suitable men will also increase. They make 60K, they want a guy within that range, and for those who want to marry up, guys need to have much higher salaries. Given that guys and gals are competing for the same jobs, this makes things more difficult for guys to achieve. Couple this with the difficulty of the dating game where the top 20% of guys get most of the attention and we're seeing a scenario where guys are losing their self-worth to the point of flat out giving up on themselves and the world. As a result, MGTOW, inceldom, and suicides (as mentioned before in this topic) are on the rise. It's not as straightforward as you make it out to be. Far from it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Infost 11/15/19 11:17:49 AM #62:	Cleo_II posted... Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. But gold digging women will continue to attract successful men. So it creates an uneven dynamic where there's a shortage of successful men for successful women to date. Doesn't mean that men are slacking, just that women have higher standards on this matter. Sad_Face posted... As a result, MGTOW, inceldom, and suicides (as mentioned before in this topic) are on the rise. There's nothing we can do about this beyond increasing the acceptance for the romantically ostracized, though. It's not like we can turn back the clock on standards. --- Filler sig. <cite>Infost posted [p:930174156] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. </quote> But gold digging women will continue to attract successful men. So it creates an uneven dynamic where there's a shortage of successful men for successful women to date. Doesn't mean that men are slacking, just that women have higher standards on this matter. Sad_Face posted...</cite> <quote>As a result, MGTOW, inceldom, and suicides (as mentioned before in this topic) are on the rise.</quote> There's nothing we can do about this beyond increasing the acceptance for the romantically ostracized, though. It's not like we can turn back the clock on standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 11/15/19 11:18:26 AM #63:	OpenlyGator posted... DaveTheUseless posted... I actually didn't know the prenup = worthless thing ruh roh raggy Yeah, oddly enough it's also had a negative impact on women looking to marry as well. Higher caliber men (high status/success/intelligence) tend to be harder to convince into settling down with marriage today. Before the turn of the century the prenup USED TO BE a go-to for reassuring those men that their assets were safe if the marriage fell apart. And for a time it worked. Some women eager to get hitched to a successful man could have convinced him to finally propose by agreeing to a prenup, which still had merit back then. Thanks to the western legal system casually dismissing or tossing out prenups in a multitude of documented cases (including the wealthy and powerful), prenups lost their former credibility. They're no longer treated as a "guarantee" among educated successful men anymore. And guarantees are what most educated successful men are looking for with long term investments...including marriage. This has has contributed to the modern woman's difficulty in reeling in an intelligent husband with success under his belt because that very caliber of man would likely be one of the most aware that a prenup is now worthless. This topic is very complex. Marriage laws were devised when men worked and men were not a part of the workforce at all. The priority was protecting women, since the risk was that they'd marry a man and then he could be abusive or dump her when she got old and she'd probably become poor or homeless, since, again, women were not part of the workforce. That is why when you marry your house is now her house too, and your hard earned money is her money too now. If you win the lottery after marriage she won it too! But things have changed. Women are now part of the workforce. We have CEO women. Congressmen women. Attorney women. And stats are showing that women now outnumber men in higher education enrollment. Adding to this, the occupations that most men would traditionally occupy, such as manual labor, are going away. We have marriage law fit for the pre-Mad Men era, while living in a post-F.R.I.E.N.D.S. world. Of course men don't want to marry. Prenups used to help with this, but in these tumblr times, now prenups don't work too. <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:930174182] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>OpenlyGator posted...</cite> <quote>DaveTheUseless posted...</cite> <quote>I actually didn't know the prenup = worthless thing ruh roh raggy </quote> Yeah, oddly enough it's also had a negative impact on women looking to marry as well. Higher caliber men (high status/success/intelligence) tend to be harder to convince into settling down with marriage today. Before the turn of the century the prenup USED TO BE a go-to for reassuring those men that their assets were safe if the marriage fell apart. And for a time it worked. Some women eager to get hitched to a successful man could have convinced him to finally propose by agreeing to a prenup, which still had merit back then. Thanks to the western legal system casually dismissing or tossing out prenups in a multitude of documented cases (including the wealthy and powerful), prenups lost their former credibility. They're no longer treated as a "guarantee" among educated successful men anymore. And guarantees are what most educated successful men are looking for with long term investments...including marriage. This has has contributed to the modern woman's difficulty in reeling in an intelligent husband with success under his belt because that very caliber of man would likely be one of the most aware that a prenup is now worthless.</quote> This topic is very complex. Marriage laws were devised when men worked and men were not a part of the workforce at all. The priority was protecting women, since the risk was that they'd marry a man and then he could be abusive or dump her when she got old and she'd probably become poor or homeless, since, again, women were not part of the workforce. That is why when you marry your house is now her house too, and your hard earned money is her money too now. If you win the lottery after marriage she won it too! But things have changed. Women are now part of the workforce. We have CEO women. Congressmen women. Attorney women. And stats are showing that women now outnumber men in higher education enrollment. Adding to this, the occupations that most men would traditionally occupy, such as manual labor, are going away. We have marriage law fit for the pre-Mad Men era, while living in a post-F.R.I.E.N.D.S. world. Of course men don't want to marry. Prenups used to help with this, but in these tumblr times, now prenups don't work too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 11/15/19 11:21:51 AM #64:	Cleo_II posted... Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. Have you really seen this? There's a huge societal stigma against stay at home dads and the like, and even in the dating scene, if a guy is making say, 70k and the woman is making say, 90k, even if she doesn't mind that (spoiler alert: most mind!) her close relatives and close friends will nudge her to "upgrade". It will begin as jokes, such as "maybe it's about time you date someone who can take you to a proper anniversary dinner? ;) " and then it will get a bit more blatant, such as "hey! My friend/relative Bruce is coming to the party too! You guys have soooooo much in common, you should totally catch up!". I'm sure what you're saying happens, I just don't think it's the norm or common. <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:930174335] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. </quote> Have you really seen this? There's a huge societal stigma against stay at home dads and the like, and even in the dating scene, if a guy is making say, 70k and the woman is making say, 90k, even if she doesn't mind that (spoiler alert: most mind!) her close relatives and close friends will nudge her to "upgrade". It will begin as jokes, such as "maybe it's about time you date someone who can take you to a proper anniversary dinner? ;) " and then it will get a bit more blatant, such as "hey! My friend/relative Bruce is coming to the party too! You guys have soooooo much in common, you should totally catch up!". I'm sure what you're saying happens, I just don't think it's the norm or common.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 11/15/19 12:59:40 PM #65:	'tumblr times' Thought that was funny, not gonna lie --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:930178591] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>'tumblr times' Thought that was funny, not gonna lie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Matchabuu_ 11/15/19 2:16:36 PM #66:	Cleo_II posted... garan posted... Too bad for those women. If they've got good careers & are making money, then they shouldn't need to find some well off guy to support them. Things like this are why a lot of guys perceive women to be gold diggers. Right, those women are gold diggers for wanting men with stable jobs and no crazy debt. How terrible. I have a career and make good money, I dont need a man to support me but I need one to contribute his fair share. Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. agreed with you 100% --- uwu SW-0239-3946-8686 <cite>_Matchabuu_ posted [p:930181953] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted...</cite> <quote>garan posted... </cite> <quote>Too bad for those women. If they've got good careers & are making money, then they shouldn't need to find some well off guy to support them. Things like this are why a lot of guys perceive women to be gold diggers.</quote>Right, those women are gold diggers for wanting men with stable jobs and no crazy debt. How terrible. I have a career and make good money, I dont need a man to support me but I need one to contribute his fair share. Seems like some men want to be the gold diggers now and women arent buying it. </quote> agreed with you 100%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 11/16/19 9:46:09 AM #67:	darkphoenix181 posted... Except for most women it is very important. Basic women <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:930215949] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Except for most women it is very important.</quote> Basic women </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 11/16/19 9:49:15 AM #68:	Stop being a gold digger, problem solved. <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:930216030] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Stop being a gold digger, problem solved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 11/16/19 9:53:49 AM #69:	The way zoomers and millennials love destroying bigots' lives (or even people who said or did something bigoted when facing duress or put in an uncomfortable situation) through digital vigilantism and the like -- why can't they exhibit even a fraction of that passion towards fighting classism? Why do people think this is okay or the norm, or just accept it? Shame people who overemphasize status - people who make classist remarks, believe in caste systems, gold dig, only want partners who make more than them, etc. <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:930216152] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>The way zoomers and millennials love destroying bigots' lives (or even people who said or did something bigoted when facing duress or put in an uncomfortable situation) through digital vigilantism and the like -- why can't they exhibit even a fraction of that passion towards fighting classism? Why do people think this is okay or the norm, or just accept it? Shame people who overemphasize status - people who make classist remarks, believe in caste systems, gold dig, only want partners who make more than them, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 11/16/19 9:53:51 AM #70:	You guys are hilarious --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:930216154] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>You guys are hilarious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nazanir 11/16/19 9:55:53 AM #71:	What remains untouched, is that men apparantly are struggling. Be it with education or jobs, but they are falling behind. Yet women are the victim here. I fucking can't. --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir <cite>Nazanir posted [p:930216202] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>What remains untouched, is that men apparantly are struggling. Be it with education or jobs, but they are falling behind. Yet women are the victim here. I fucking can't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 11/16/19 10:08:22 AM #72:	Yeah, it's not a problem at all. It's just plain good old stupidity. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:930216544] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's not a problem at all. It's just plain good old stupidity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 11/16/19 10:22:47 AM #73:	@Nazanir posted... What remains untouched, is that men apparantly are struggling. Be it with education or jobs, but they are falling behind. Yet women are the victim here. I fucking can't. I think that the powers that be in society see an inevitable turn towards a female-centric society and adjust accordingly. Manual labor, blue collar jobs, etc are on their way out (typically male job), physical fighting is no longer relevant, and not even cops need any physicality anymore (they all have pull-trigger death machines that they're too quick to fire at anyone), so what's the economic value (to the "powers that be") in men now? It's no coincidence that woke culture has been too harsh on men in the last 10 years. James Bond? REEEEEEEEEEE. Batman? REEEEEEEEEEEE. YAAASSSS queen captain marvel slay! As china gains economic power, the car industry began gravitating towards china (fun fact - china is the sole reason Buick still exists), and as women become the most important economic (spending) block, society has begun gravitating towards them as well. It's all market forces <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:930216980] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote> @Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>What remains untouched, is that men apparantly are struggling. Be it with education or jobs, but they are falling behind. Yet women are the victim here. I fucking can't.</quote> I think that the powers that be in society see an inevitable turn towards a female-centric society and adjust accordingly. Manual labor, blue collar jobs, etc are on their way out (typically male job), physical fighting is no longer relevant, and not even cops need any physicality anymore (they all have pull-trigger death machines that they're too quick to fire at anyone), so what's the economic value (to the "powers that be") in men now? It's no coincidence that woke culture has been too harsh on men in the last 10 years. James Bond? REEEEEEEEEEE. Batman? REEEEEEEEEEEE. YAAASSSS queen captain marvel slay! As china gains economic power, the car industry began gravitating towards china (fun fact - china is the sole reason Buick still exists), and as women become the most important economic (spending) block, society has begun gravitating towards them as well. It's all market forces</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 11/16/19 10:28:47 AM #74:	Want to be paid more, work less, and still judge men by the size of their wallet. The modern woman ladies and gentleman --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:930217148] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Want to be paid more, work less, and still judge men by the size of their wallet. The modern woman ladies and gentleman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 11/16/19 11:44:28 AM #75:	Nazanir posted... What remains untouched, is that men apparantly are struggling. Be it with education or jobs, but they are falling behind. Yet women are the victim here. I fucking can't. Like how women are the main victims of war. They lose their husbands. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:930219658] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>What remains untouched, is that men apparantly are struggling. Be it with education or jobs, but they are falling behind. Yet women are the victim here. I fucking can't.</quote> Like how women are the main victims of war. They lose their husbands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
V-E-G-Y- 11/17/19 10:17:16 AM #76:	Lol yea --- https://imgur.com/L6MQGtI https://imgur.com/HAj1Ocp https://imgur.com/Op6gMTg https://imgur.com/hNkY6mv <cite>V-E-G-Y- posted [p:930263022] in Women are ... [t:78160638]...</cite> <quote>Lol yea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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