Current Events > Do angstheist just shit on abrahamic religions?

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Or nah?

never seen them shit on Hinduism or Buddhism, but I've had limited time around those types of people.
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cause Abraham numbah juan

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Do racists in the South spend a lot of time complaining about Inuits?

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Supernatural posted...

cause Abraham numbah juan

yeah, but give the little guys some spotlight
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DrizztLink posted...

Do racists in the South spend a lot of time complaining about Inuits?

wouldn't know
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They do but the religions that come up for them daily are obviously the things they talk about more
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in abrahamic countries yes
quora has a lot of indian angstheists that shit on hinduism for example
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kkTheKiller42 posted...

DrizztLink posted...

Do racists in the South spend a lot of time complaining about Inuits?

wouldn't know

kkTheKiller42, I need an explanation on your username then.
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kk was the nickname of a girl i liked back in middle school. I added "The killer" to it @Webmaster4531
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kkTheKiller42 posted...

wouldn't know

It's an exposure thing is what I'm saying.

They see Abrahamic religions every day, don't get a lot of interaction with Eastern.

I mean, I've met like one Sikh in my entire life.

Same with the racist. They hate what they know.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvaka

Seems like there's an ancient school of materialism within Hinduism. So it's possible to be an atheist Hindu. Same with Buddhism.
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Vita_Aeterna posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvaka

Seems like there's an ancient school of materialism within Hinduism. So it's possible to be an atheist Hindu. Same with Buddhism.

sounds like agnosticism right?
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kkTheKiller42 posted...

Vita_Aeterna posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvaka

Seems like there's an ancient school of materialism within Hinduism. So it's possible to be an atheist Hindu. Same with Buddhism.

sounds like agnosticism right?

May blow your mind, but there's more stuff written about atheism in Sanskrit than any other classical language.

And as far as we know, the Indians were the first to document atheistic writing. Unfortunately, modern Indians are largely religious (go figure).
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Buddhism has a fairly benign history compared to abrahamic religions.

The most annoying thing about buddhism is having some fake monk try to sell you a flower pin on the street. That's literally it.

Whereas I can give you a list of annoying things about christianity and islam and would probably run out of energy before I even got through half of it
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pinky0926 posted...

Buddhism has a fairly benign history compared to abrahamic religions.

This. Some Athiests are only athiests at all because the preachier religions left a bad taste in their mouth. Also most athiests are tolerant of religious people and their views so long as they keep it in pocket.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

kkTheKiller42, I need an explanation on your username then.

No you fucking don't.

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Most angstheists only whine about Christianity and Judaism and always dodge or play the white knight when the topic goes to Islam because whining about religions white people believe in make you look edge, where as being even a tiny bit critical of Islam makes you politically incorrect, even though Islam is just as if not worse than its predecessors.

Shadilay posted...

Most angstheists only whine about Christianity and Judaism and always dodge or play the white knight when the topic goes to Islam because whining about religions white people believe in make you look edge, where as being even a tiny bit critical of Islam makes you politically incorrect, even though Islam is just as if not worse than its predecessors.

Not even remotely true. Islam gets called out for its nonsense all the time by atheists.
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Do angstheists even exist still? I know one reason I used to be one was mainly a reaction to the atrocities of Christianity, but I feel like everyone grows up from that phase

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Why don't Hawaiians complain about snow?

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Shadilay posted...

Most angstheists only whine about Christianity and Judaism and always dodge or play the white knight when the topic goes to Islam because whining about religions white people believe in make you look edge, where as being even a tiny bit critical of Islam makes you politically incorrect, even though Islam is just as if not worse than its predecessors.

Islam can fuck right the hell off

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Not even remotely true. Islam gets called out for its nonsense all the time by atheists.

People gave Richard Dawkins shit when he criticized Islam.

When I first learned about Buddhism really, it sounded like it was originally just a way of life, a philosophy, but then people made it a religion.

It sounds like you can practice Buddhism, at least many of the ideals of it, but still be atheist. Probably some of its ideals would make us all happier tbh.

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coh posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Not even remotely true. Islam gets called out for its nonsense all the time by atheists.

People gave Richard Dawkins shit when he criticized Islam.

Turns out there are all kinds of people in the world with varying opinions on things

funny that
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shnangyboos posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

kkTheKiller42, I need an explanation on your username then.

No you fucking don't.

Yeah, I did. Shut the fuck up.
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If you want a generally sound atheist position, here it is:

I don't care what you choose to believe or practice. What you do in your own time in your own company in your own space is up to you. I might quietly judge or disapprove of it - as one judges a person's taste in fashion or music or choice of career - but ultimately I respect that that's your business and I tolerate it. If you're not hurting anyone, you do you.

However, don't expect me to continue to tolerate this if it means I have to abandon my own beliefs or practices in order to accommodate it. That's no longer tolerance, that's eroding my own principles in favour of yours.

So to take a real-life example of this, if you don't think gay people have a place in your spiritual heart then...well, I think you're a piece of shit but I'm not gonna waste time trying to change your mind. If however you start trying to pass legislation to oppress gay people, or start bullying gay people, or any number of things that hurts the gay community, then it's time to stop being tolerant of your religious position.

Tolerance is not a given, and people should understand what tolerance actually means before expecting it as a given.

This is why Buddhism is so easy to tolerate. It's generally (generally) a self-serving, self-imposed form of spiritualism.
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pinky0926 posted...

If you want a generally sound atheist position, here it is:

I don't care what you choose to believe or practice. What you do in your own time in your own company in your own space is up to you. I might quietly judge or disapprove of it - as one judges a person's taste in fashion or music or choice of career - but ultimately I respect that that's your business and I tolerate it. If you're not hurting anyone, you do you.

However, don't expect me to continue to tolerate this if it means I have to abandon my own beliefs or practices in order to accommodate it. That's no longer tolerance, that's eroding my own principles in favour of yours.

So to take a real-life example of this, if you don't think gay people have a place in your spiritual heart then...well, I think you're a piece of shit but I'm not gonna waste time trying to change your mind. If however you start trying to pass legislation to oppress gay people, or start bullying gay people, or any number of things that hurts the gay community, then it's time to stop being tolerant of your religious position.

Tolerance is not a given, and people should understand what tolerance actually means before expecting it as a given.

This is why Buddhism is so easy to tolerate. It's generally (generally) a self-serving, self-imposed form of spiritualism.

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As someone mentioned beforehand, it's about exposure: they hate what they were more exposed to.

As for me, I had a semi-intense angstheist phase. The target of most of my hatred was Christianity (Catholic branch) because of what it attempted to do to me in terms of indoctrination.

I was put into a catholic school (because my casual catholic parents wanted to look good in front of their very catholic parents) and that school ended up being a haven for bullying, so much so that if a child was bullied there constantly...the solution wasn't to give the bullies a punishment or suspend them, no, it was to TRANSFER THE BULLY VICTIM TO THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE ROAD. Not to mention, Religion as a subject was taught before science (science became a subject in third grade, in terms of religion it was there from reception, which is like Grade 0 I guess), and every time the school wanted to have a mass, every student, even ones with leg or foot injuries, was made to walk 10 minutes to the local church. When your 5, your little legs tire out on the trip back if they weren't tired on the first. Oh yeah, it didn't help that even though I had a buddhist classmate at one point, no one was taught that other relgions EVEN EXISTED until 6th grade.
Oh yes, and how could I forget the forced Confirmation? If you had been baptised, it became a requirement by third or fourth grade (I forget) that, YOUR PARENTS decide for you if you want to be confirmed. I've never heard of any parent saying no, nor asking their child, hence I saw it as forced, and I even questioned if the school could get in trouble over such a practise.
And I personally think the final nail in the coffin for me was my mother being diagnosed with breast cancer when I was in 6th grade. (she beat it she's fine now don't worry)

Discovering Atheism was an option made me look back at everything that was taught to me, and I began to resent it. Everything bad in my life I could connect to my now ex-faith, even if it was a bit of a stretch. EG:
'I'm a bullying victim and my CATHOLIC school won't do anything about it'
'My CATHOLIC mother got cancer, so religion didn't mean anything!'
'We are wasting time in Mass because of this stupid CATHOLIC holiday'

It's pretty much the opposite of someone in a bad situation finding peace in a religion, in a lot of cases (or at least mine). Abrahamic religions can produce very intolerant people moreso than eastern religions as well, which adds to the rage of Agnstheists, especially younger ones and ones that fall under LGBT, often both.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Yeah, I did. Shut the fuck up.

No you didn't. Close your fucking account and stop harassing other users.

pinky0926 posted...

If you want a generally sound atheist position, here it is:

I don't care what you choose to believe or practice. What you do in your own time in your own company in your own space is up to you. I might quietly judge or disapprove of it - as one judges a person's taste in fashion or music or choice of career - but ultimately I respect that that's your business and I tolerate it. If you're not hurting anyone, you do you.

However, don't expect me to continue to tolerate this if it means I have to abandon my own beliefs or practices in order to accommodate it. That's no longer tolerance, that's eroding my own principles in favour of yours.

So to take a real-life example of this, if you don't think gay people have a place in your spiritual heart then...well, I think you're a piece of shit but I'm not gonna waste time trying to change your mind. If however you start trying to pass legislation to oppress gay people, or start bullying gay people, or any number of things that hurts the gay community, then it's time to stop being tolerant of your religious position.

Tolerance is not a given, and people should understand what tolerance actually means before expecting it as a given.

This is why Buddhism is so easy to tolerate. It's generally (generally) a self-serving, self-imposed form of spiritualism.

Nicely said.

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Hindu nationalists get a lot of flak (on the left at least), with the whole Kashmir situation, and the Hindu-Muslim antagonism, among other things. Although it's more the "nationalist" part that's being aimed at.

As for Buddhists, remember these guys? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo Also Myanmar. But yeah, generally they're not seen as being as bad as other religions (rightly or wrongly).

thanosibe posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Yeah, I did. Shut the fuck up.

No you didn't. Close your fucking account and stop harassing other users.

Just because you two don't bat an eye at a succession of three k's doesn't mean people shouldn't.
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You're acting like they're 3 consecutive k's and not once have I been racist on this board. Idk why you're making a big deal
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Buddhism in its purer strains can definitely be seen as agnostic. Though very much still a religion.
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kkTheKiller42 posted...

You're acting like they're 3 consecutive k's and not once have I been racist on this board. Idk why you're making a big deal

Meh, did you notice I didn't press on your response to me? Boos and Thanosibe, I responded to because

Webmaster4531 posted...

Just because you two don't bat an eye at a succession of three k's doesn't mean people shouldn't.

Check out Thanosibe here trying his hardest to say illegals deserve to die without getting moderated

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78183248
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Im agnostic and I dont care much for Abrahamic religions at all.
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proximity thing
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Angtheist is a useless word. People pretty much just use it to label anyone that doesn't treat religion with kid gloves, or act like it deserves respect.

In the U.S, most people's daily lives aren't really affected by Hinduism or Buddhism. So if you're on mostly U.S based forums, you aren't going to see many people talking about those religions much at all, good or bad.

Make no mistake though, I believe both religions are just as much hogwash and full of magical thinking as any other religion and I'd reckon most atheists feel the same way.

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western atheists are focused on western religions, or religions that have more influence/relevance in the west. hinduism for example is a non factor in the US

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