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Amenadeel 11/21/19 12:09:59 PM #1:	Basically in a nutshell Wants to kill everything on the planet and rule over the rest Created rings for all the tribes to have but then secretly created 1 ring to rule them all <cite>Amenadeel posted [p:930477558] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Basically in a nutshell Wants to kill everything on the planet and rule over the rest Created rings for all the tribes to have but then secretly created 1 ring to rule them all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 11/21/19 12:10:28 PM #2:	Sources needed --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:930477583] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Sources needed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/21/19 12:10:49 PM #3:	yeah but did you fucking SEE shelob?! --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:930477600] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>yeah but did you fucking SEE shelob?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 11/21/19 12:11:08 PM #4:	hate these dumb fan theories --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:930477613] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>hate these dumb fan theories</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/21/19 12:13:19 PM #5:	Holy shit I never knew it. Man, Tolkien is the GOAT writer. He can master subtlety and have these grand arcs happen without anyone ever really noticing. Bravo Tolkien. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:930477728] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit I never knew it. Man, Tolkien is the GOAT writer. He can master subtlety and have these grand arcs happen without anyone ever really noticing. Bravo Tolkien.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/21/19 12:13:35 PM #6:	Frodo did everything wrong --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:930477740] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Frodo did everything wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amenadeel 11/23/19 6:00:10 AM #7:	Additional proof: Was a voyeur who liked to look at people in secret during their most intimate moments ie wielding the dark powers <cite>Amenadeel posted [p:930569166] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Additional proof: Was a voyeur who liked to look at people in secret during their most intimate moments ie wielding the dark powers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyuVegas 11/23/19 6:02:10 AM #8:	Im sorry... SECRETLY? Dude fashioned an army just to get his precious ring back. Is hardly call that secretive. --- NP \| DOOM(All Diffies), DBFZ, Super Mario Odyssey, Link's Awakening 'Ive seen Ryu on the MtG board so hes already cooler than most of you.' ~XImperialDragon <cite>RyuVegas posted [p:930569191] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Im sorry... SECRETLY? Dude fashioned an army just to get his precious ring back. Is hardly call that secretive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/23/19 6:03:39 AM #9:	Amenadeel posted... Additional proof: Was a voyeur who liked to look at people in secret during their most intimate moments ie wielding the dark powers To be fair, all of us would sneak peek on cute elvish princesses taking a bath if we could... --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:930569205] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Amenadeel posted... </cite> <quote>Additional proof: Was a voyeur who liked to look at people in secret during their most intimate moments ie wielding the dark powers</quote>To be fair, all of us would sneak peek on cute elvish princesses taking a bath if we could... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 11/23/19 6:05:32 AM #10:	Wow thats truly amazing. I love Tolkiens grounded, realistic feeling despite its fantasy setting. Compare that to some over-the-top, fun but cliched novelist like George RR Martin, where his characters are (A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILERS) ~~coming back to life and there are huge mythical flying creatures I mean cmon man haha~~. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:930569232] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Wow thats truly amazing. I love Tolkiens grounded, realistic feeling despite its fantasy setting. Compare that to some over-the-top, fun but cliched novelist like George RR Martin, where his characters are (A Song of Ice and Fire SPOILERS) coming back to life and there are huge mythical flying creatures I mean cmon man haha.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 11/23/19 6:06:43 AM #11:	RyuVegas posted... Im sorry... SECRETLY? Dude fashioned an army just to get his precious ring back. Is hardly call that secretive. Then how do you explain how nobody ever figured it out before TC? --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:930569253] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>RyuVegas posted...</cite> <quote>Im sorry... SECRETLY? Dude fashioned an army just to get his precious ring back. Is hardly call that secretive.</quote> Then how do you explain how nobody ever figured it out before TC?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oldin 11/23/19 6:21:23 AM #12:	He was a blacksmith at one point and then shapeshift into the villain we knew and love today --- GameFAQs is my Wife! https://tinyurl.com/y57qjuvv <cite>Oldin posted [p:930569498] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>He was a blacksmith at one point and then shapeshift into the villain we knew and love today </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/23/19 6:25:29 AM #13:	Sauron in the Silmarlillion is the archetypal white-hair pretty-boy JRPG villain. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:930569553] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Sauron in the Silmarlillion is the archetypal white-hair pretty-boy JRPG villain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 11/23/19 6:31:41 AM #14:	No way, first the poor guy has his jewelry stolen from him and then the evil hobbits and their friends broke into his home and vandalized the place. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:930569638] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>No way, first the poor guy has his jewelry stolen from him and then the evil hobbits and their friends broke into his home and vandalized the place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/23/19 12:15:11 PM #15:	RyuVegas posted... Im sorry... SECRETLY? Dude fashioned an army just to get his precious ring back. Is hardly call that secretive. Attempting to retrieve your stolen property hardly makes you a villain. But TC brings up a pretty good point. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:930578302] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>RyuVegas posted... </cite> <quote>Im sorry... SECRETLY? Dude fashioned an army just to get his precious ring back. Is hardly call that secretive.</quote>Attempting to retrieve your stolen property hardly makes you a villain. But TC brings up a pretty good point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 11/23/19 12:20:21 PM #16:	He was when he was Annatar. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:930578493] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>He was when he was Annatar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 11/23/19 12:21:19 PM #17:	Ain't his boss Melkor stronger and the real evil of that universe? --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:930578529] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Ain't his boss Melkor stronger and the real evil of that universe? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/23/19 12:21:26 PM #18:	never heard this theory before. any good youtube docus on it? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:930578536] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>never heard this theory before. any good youtube docus on it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Srk700 11/23/19 12:22:19 PM #19:	Really? I thought it was obvious that Gandalf was the main antagonist <cite>Srk700 posted [p:930578569] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Really? I thought it was obvious that Gandalf was the main antagonist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 11/23/19 12:22:48 PM #20:	Melkor did nothing wrong Gift of men is a scam too --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:930578585] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Melkor did nothing wrong Gift of men is a scam too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 11/23/19 12:24:34 PM #21:	big if true <cite>Malfunction posted [p:930578659] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>big if true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RieTakahash 11/23/19 12:25:15 PM #22:	Sauron was indeed originally the equivalent of Morgoth's butler --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>RieTakahash posted [p:930578686] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Sauron was indeed originally the equivalent of Morgoth's butler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 11/23/19 12:26:40 PM #23:	I thought Sauron was from X-Men. Is this some sort of crossover? --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:930578734] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>I thought Sauron was from X-Men. Is this some sort of crossover?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josiskrazy 11/23/19 12:29:31 PM #24:	I don't believe any of this, sounds like TC is just making stuff up. Hardcore Tolkien fans won't fall for it!!! --- My SUIKODEN collection http://imgur.com/gallery/ztyT1 <cite>josiskrazy posted [p:930578842] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>I don't believe any of this, sounds like TC is just making stuff up. Hardcore Tolkien fans won't fall for it!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/23/19 12:33:56 PM #25:	furb posted... Melkor did nothing wrong Gift of men is a scam too The Valar and the elves were keeping paradise and immortality all to themselves. Sauron was right to get the Numenorians to invade Aman. Sauron and Melkor knew what was up. Never listen to the Elvish lies. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:930579030] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>furb posted...</cite> <quote>Melkor did nothing wrong Gift of men is a scam too </quote> The Valar and the elves were keeping paradise and immortality all to themselves. Sauron was right to get the Numenorians to invade Aman. Sauron and Melkor knew what was up. Never listen to the Elvish lies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RieTakahash 11/23/19 12:49:46 PM #26:	Aule created dwarves behind his dad's (iluvatar) back, and when he found out he was basically like wtf dude whatever i guess you can keep them but they're fucking living underground --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>RieTakahash posted [p:930579621] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Aule created dwarves behind his dad's (iluvatar) back, and when he found out he was basically like wtf dude whatever i guess you can keep them but they're fucking living underground</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 11/23/19 12:50:59 PM #27:	Ok lets all admit, accurate or not, its a neat fan theory. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:930579668] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Ok lets all admit, accurate or not, its a neat fan theory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amenadeel 11/24/19 11:38:49 PM #28:	Foppe posted... Amenadeel posted... Additional proof: Was a voyeur who liked to look at people in secret during their most intimate moments ie wielding the dark powers To be fair, all of us would sneak peek on hairy dwarf miners taking a bath if we could... fixed <cite>Amenadeel posted [p:930658182] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Amenadeel posted... </cite> <quote>Additional proof: Was a voyeur who liked to look at people in secret during their most intimate moments ie wielding the dark powers</quote>To be fair, all of us would sneak peek on hairy dwarf miners taking a bath if we could... </quote> fixed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 11/24/19 11:41:58 PM #29:	If Sauron was bad then why didn't the eagles immediately fly to Mordor? --- Me irl: https://i.imgtc.ws/DaWXgKp.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:930658302] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>If Sauron was bad then why didn't the eagles immediately fly to Mordor? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 11/24/19 11:56:23 PM #30:	Well in Shadows of War (Major Spoilers) ~~Sauron merges with another ghost elf for some reason~~ --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:930658811] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Well in Shadows of War (Major Spoilers) Sauron merges with another ghost elf for some reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 11/24/19 11:59:51 PM #31:	The REAL One Ring is the friends you made along the way. --- When I was a boy and I saw scary things in the news, my mother would say to me: Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping. -Fred Rogers <cite>action52 posted [p:930658958] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>The REAL One Ring is the friends you made along the way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 11/25/19 12:08:06 AM #32:	I mean...it's a cute theory and everything, but it falls into the same camp as theories like Strider is actually the one true king of Gondor. <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:930659240] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>I mean...it's a cute theory and everything, but it falls into the same camp as theories like Strider is actually the one true king of Gondor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/25/19 8:26:52 AM #33:	SailorGoon posted... If Sauron was bad then why didn't the eagles immediately fly to Mordor? Maybe he would have shot them down with his eye laser. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:930669103] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>SailorGoon posted... </cite> <quote>If Sauron was bad then why didn't the eagles immediately fly to Mordor?</quote>Maybe he would have shot them down with his eye laser. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/25/19 8:41:12 AM #35:	A character who only appears in the filler of the anime? Yeah right lawl. --- Fair enough, but I think everything you said is wrong and I hate you and you're crazy. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:930669488] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>A character who only appears in the filler of the anime? Yeah right lawl. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ocelot51 11/25/19 8:45:28 AM #36:	One weird trick to extend your life! Dnedain finally share their secrets! ~~Descend from the Numenoreans~~ <cite>ocelot51 posted [p:930669607] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>One weird trick to extend your life! Dnedain finally share their secrets! Descend from the Numenoreans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 11/25/19 9:26:17 AM #37:	Typical deep-realm conspiracy going on here. ~~Magma can't melt gold rings! The collapse of Barad-Dur was an inside job!~~ --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:930670730] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Typical deep-realm conspiracy going on here. Magma can't melt gold rings! The collapse of Barad-Dur was an inside job!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amenadeel 11/26/19 11:27:21 PM #38:	ocelot51 posted... One weird trick to extend your life! Dnedain finally share their secrets! ~~Descend from the Numenoreans~~ Lol XD Hobbit wears one ring. You won't believe what happens next! <cite>Amenadeel posted [p:930757458] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>ocelot51 posted...</cite> <quote>One weird trick to extend your life! Dnedain finally share their secrets! Descend from the Numenoreans</quote> Lol XD Hobbit wears one ring. You won't believe what happens next!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awakened_Link 11/26/19 11:30:37 PM #39:	I'm pretty sure it was Morgoth that wanted to kill and destroy everything. He was, like, chaotic evil. Sauron was more lawful evil; he just wanted to rule over everything. --- Add me on Switch! FC: SW-3465-2506-6411 \| Nintendo Network ID: awakened_link37 Formerly known as Coleby <cite>Awakened_Link posted [p:930757605] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure it was Morgoth that wanted to kill and destroy everything. He was, like, chaotic evil. Sauron was more lawful evil; he just wanted to rule over everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 11/26/19 11:31:39 PM #40:	Sauron was the protagonist who got royally fucked by those stupid Hobbitses. The book is literally called the LORD OF THE RINGS. Who is this LORD OF THE RINGS? Sauron. The title character can't be a bad guy. --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:930757655] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Sauron was the protagonist who got royally fucked by those stupid Hobbitses. The book is literally called the LORD OF THE RINGS. Who is this LORD OF THE RINGS? Sauron. The title character can't be a bad guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SailorGoon 11/26/19 11:40:23 PM #42:	He's also Mikey from The Goonies. --- RIP Lex Megathread https://imgur.com/NCHyNPs <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:930757991] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>He's also Mikey from The Goonies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 11/26/19 11:41:47 PM #43:	Hairistotle posted... Did you guys know the doofy RadioShack guy from stranger things was Sam in those movies? I only recognized him from the lispy juicer in 50 first dates Of course. I got hyped the second he showed up. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:930758046] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>Did you guys know the doofy RadioShack guy from stranger things was Sam in those movies? I only recognized him from the lispy juicer in 50 first dates</quote>Of course. I got hyped the second he showed up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amenadeel 11/28/19 11:55:35 PM #44:	masterpug53 posted... Typical deep-realm conspiracy going on here. ~~Magma can't melt gold rings! The collapse of Barad-Dur was an inside job!~~ The alliance of elves and men was a mistake. It should never have happened. <cite>Amenadeel posted [p:930852051] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote>Typical deep-realm conspiracy going on here. Magma can't melt gold rings! The collapse of Barad-Dur was an inside job!</quote> The alliance of elves and men was a mistake. It should never have happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nevershine 11/29/19 3:11:08 PM #46:	I always thought Samwise was originally intended to be the true ring-bearer --- "There are no men like me. There's only me."-Jaime Lannister <cite>nevershine posted [p:930874033] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>I always thought Samwise was originally intended to be the true ring-bearer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amenadeel 11/30/19 11:38:21 PM #47:	nevershine posted... I always thought Samwise was originally intended to be the true ring-bearer It was but after his heart was corrupted by goodness the ring went to Frodo. Saruman explains it all in the extended editions. <cite>Amenadeel posted [p:930936084] in Why Sauron... [t:78183643]...</cite> <quote>nevershine posted...</cite> <quote>I always thought Samwise was originally intended to be the true ring-bearer </quote> It was but after his heart was corrupted by goodness the ring went to Frodo. Saruman explains it all in the extended editions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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