Poll of the Day > What do you think of cops who purposely jump in front of the car of a fleeing

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....suspect and then sometimes when the suspect in the car still tries to get away by moving the car forward, then the cop shoots sometimes claiming that the suspect is trying to use the car as a weapon? You hear about this stuff happening here and there. Do you have a problem with cops doing this?

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If someone attempts to move their car forward knowing someone is in front of them, they are attempting to use the car as a weapon, aren't they?

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don't most of the time the cop purposely jumps in front of the car?

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That doesn't change my question

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well, if the criminal is willing to run over a cop injuring or possibly killing them, then they'll probably not have an issue if they were to continue fleeing and run over innocent bystander Jebron. cop is trying to protect you without you even knowing TC. :P

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JebronLames posted...

don't most of the time the cop purposely jumps in front of the car?

if they do that doesnt mean you can just run them over though

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I see no problem with the cop's actions.

JebronLames posted...

Do you have a problem with cops doing this?

Being as it's their job no. If someone is infront of your car you stop what you're doing if possible.


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Also if someone is willing to run over a cop to get away then theyre likely just as willing to run over any innocent bystanders that get between them and escape

its obviously better to bring in a suspect unharmed, but people should never just flee from police

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Lots of people will drive off if they're just bolting, but few will intentionally run someone over to do so... so it's a solid move for the cop to do, and relatively safe since the car would be accelerating from 0, not already at speed

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I don't see that there's much of a problem with it, unless the cop starts shooting before the driver can reasonably be expected to stop (which would basically mean opening fire as soon as they got in front of the vehicle). If the person doesn't stop driving with the cop in front of them, then they are indeed trying to assault the cop with the vehicle, justifying lethal force to stop them.

I'm totally cool with a cop shooting someone that is trying to run them over.


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Realtalk: It is safer for the front windshield to be breakable, allowing a driver/passenger to fly out - or for the front windshield to be rigidly bulletproof?


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Real men dont even use windshields

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I feel like it would have to be a case by case basis otherwise there might be too many incidents that technically are that, but not really

Like if someone was to try to run then turned to avoid the cop after he jumped in front of the car and the driver clearly wasn't going to hit the cop. They should probably not shoot the guy in that instance, and I'm sure there are others too where it feels more like the cop just wanted to shoot somebody instead of actually feeling threatened. I mean you can't run from the cops forever unless you're super rich, and usually it'll be pretty quickly when they are actively pursuing you; it's really stupid and you are most likely going to get caught, and they know that, so to use lethal force on some of those might seem excessive.

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I don't have a problem. Accidents are one thing but if you see a cop/person in front of you and proceed to go forward instead of stop then that is using the car as a weapon.

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Lokarin posted...

Realtalk: It is safer for the front windshield to be breakable, allowing a driver/passenger to fly out - or for the front windshield to be rigidly bulletproof?

Windshields have to be safety glass to be roadworthy, so I think that assessment's been made.
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zero problem. a car is absolutely a weapon in that instance.

if a cop is standing in front of you telling you to stop but you run at them with a weapon, they can shoot you. using a car is the same
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JebronLames posted...

don't most of the time the cop purposely jumps in front of the car?

there job is to stop the suspect from fleeing. do you want them to stand aside?

then when some civilian gets run over the cops would get blamed
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If it's safe enough for them to be willing to jump in front of it, it's not dangerous enough to open fire on the driver.

Police should not act dangerously.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

If it's safe enough for them to be willing to jump in front of it, it's not dangerous enough to open fire on the driver.

Police should not act dangerously.

and if the car doesn't stop?

surprise surprise... the guy tagged as a cop hater is against cops stopping suspects going towards cops with weapons.
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I'm against. They should just drone strike it.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

and if the car doesn't stop?

Then they move aside or roll over. If they can't do either then they were acting dangerously, not only by jumping in to danger, but also by making the criminal potentially lose control having to deal with an officer on the windscreen or under a wheel, endangering the public.

Vehicles can be tracked, other officers can pursue. The officer should take down details and get the force on it ASAP, not try to take lives and endanger the public needlessly.

It's not worth sacrificing the public to catch a criminal, the damage of the chase shouldn't exceed the danger of the criminal.
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It is a disgrace to their sworn oath of service and protection for a man or woman of law enforcement to create a potentially life-threatening situation in an event that is not otherwise life-threatening, let alone to take a life in response to the life-threatening situation he or she created.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Then they move aside or roll over. If they can't do either then they were acting dangerously, not only by jumping in to danger, but also by making the criminal potentially lose control having to deal with an officer on the windscreen or under a wheel, endangering the public.

Vehicles can be tracked, other officers can pursue. The officer should take down details and get the force on it ASAP, not try to take lives and endanger the public needlessly.

It's not worth sacrificing the public to catch a criminal, the damage of the chase shouldn't exceed the danger of the criminal.

It also endangers the public if they let the criminal flee. They obviously don't care about hitting anyone. And they most likely will when it comes to crossing an intersection with a red light. It's safer to just take down the criminal before it comes to that...
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

but also by making the criminal potentially lose control having to deal with an officer on the windscreen or under a wheel, endangering the public.

Yes, it's not the fact that the driver is willing to run down anyone that gets in their way that makes their escape dangerous, it's the fact that there's a cop on their windshield/under a wheel. That makes total sense and is not at all utterly absurd.

The driver has the option to stop when the cop gets in front of them (again, presuming it's not a matter of jumping out and shooting before anyone could react). If they choose to try murdering the cop instead, there's no reason that cop shouldn't shoot them.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Then they move aside or roll over. If they can't do either then they were acting dangerously, not only by jumping in to danger, but also by making the criminal potentially lose control having to deal with an officer on the windscreen or under a wheel, endangering the public.

Yeah, no.


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It's like a cop checkmating a criminal by going

"Now you can't escape without killing me, and you won't kill me because I'll shoot you first, so you can't escape without dying"

I honestly don't give a shit about degenerates who run away from the police or try to reach in their car and grab their gun or whatever. 99% of those people are too stupid to be alive for very long anyway, and it's probably best that nature takes its course.

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Depends what exactly you mean. I haven't seen videos of such instances, but if it's simply preemptively moving in front of the suspect's car before s/he has a chance to try and flee in order to discourage it? Sure, that's fine I guess.

But when you describe it as "jumping" in front of a fleeing suspect's car, it conjures mental images of a car already accelerating to try and speed off, which makes it seem difficult for the suspect to actually react in time to stop. That would just be utterly reckless and stupid on the part of the cop, and would seem to me that it's just trying to create an excuse to open fire.

Running from the cops is dumb and won't work out for most people, but I don't think it deserves an extrajudicial death sentence. If the cop's just trying to create such a scenario, then that's fucked up.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Then they move aside or roll over. If they can't do either then they were acting dangerously, not only by jumping in to danger, but also by making the criminal potentially lose control having to deal with an officer on the windscreen or under a wheel, endangering the public.

Vehicles can be tracked, other officers can pursue. The officer should take down details and get the force on it ASAP, not try to take lives and endanger the public needlessly.

It's not worth sacrificing the public to catch a criminal, the damage of the chase shouldn't exceed the danger of the criminal.

One of the dumbest things I've ever seen someone post on this board, and that's quite the feat lol.

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...This is a thing that happens frequently?? It's definitely not something I've heard of happening ever. It sounds like something out of an action movie.

So what, the cop gets in front of the car the suspect just got into so it isn't moving very fast, or are they jumping in front of a car going full speed to get them to slam on their breaks?

I don't have a problem with the former, but the latter seems suicidal.

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Personally unless you're trying to apprehend some mass murderer, there is never a good reason for a cop to jump in front of a car or for police chases that endanger the public all because someone has an outstanding warrant.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Personally unless you're trying to apprehend some mass murderer, there is never a good reason for a cop to jump in front of a car or for police chases that endanger the public all because someone has an outstanding warrant.

there is pretty much never a reason to resist arrest by murdering a police officer. and certainly not in the context we're talking about.

InfernalFive posted...

One of the dumbest things I've ever seen someone post on this board, and that's quite the feat lol.

he hates cops, that should clear his statement up
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Police officers should never be doing something so stupid.

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if they are willing to run over someone to get away then they deserve to be shot

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EvilMegas posted...

Police officers should never be doing something so stupid.

what?

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LinkPizza posted...

It also endangers the public if they let the criminal flee.

In the UK the police abandon chases when it endangers the public. It's not acceptable to create a danger to catch a criminal. In Japan, chases don't really happen, they just take down your plate and visit your house.

Again, it is not okay to endanger the public, even to apprehend a suspect.

_AdjI_ posted...

Yes, it's not the fact that the driver is willing to run down anyone that gets in their way that makes their escape dangerous

If you know they're willing to endanger the public to escape yet you will still instigate a situation where they will need to do it to escape, you have created a danger that otherwise wouldn't occur. It's not reasonable for the police to escalate risk.

_AdjI_ posted...

The driver has the option to stop when the cop gets in front of them (again, presuming it's not a matter of jumping out and shooting before anyone could react). If they choose to try murdering the cop instead, there's no reason that cop shouldn't shoot them.

Nobody's getting murdered in a 2mph crash, but it's monumentally stupid and dangerous to throw yourself under a moving vehicle. They're trying to escape, it's up to the cop if they want to commit suicide. You don't blame lorry drivers when people commit suicide jumping under their wheels so it's not the criminal's fault if the officer tries to turn himself in to a wheel clamp.
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letting them flee endangers the public...

and stop fucking trying to say the cops are throwing themselves on/under the car. clearly not the example given, stop being so dense.
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As a former cop this isn't a thing and not something any cop is trained to do. Also, it becomes, at minimum assault with a deadly weapon if you try to drive into someone in front of you.

But really why the fuck would I jump in front of a car to stop the car? I'll just call out over the radio and have 30 people chase you down the road.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

In the UK the police abandon chases when it endangers the public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdhE3xZBGKU

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

In the UK the police abandon chases when it endangers the public. It's not acceptable to create a danger to catch a criminal. In Japan, chases don't really happen, they just take down your plate and visit your house.

Again, it is not okay to endanger the public, even to apprehend a suspect.

Lol ah fuck it boys, we'll get him at home.

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well yeah, some states in the us have altered their pursuit strategies and thats fine.
some police station vehicles can shoot a gps tracker on a vehicle

but TC had some weird idea that cops were going kamikaze style flinging their bodies at criminals cars or something, hehe


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Brave cop
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

In the UK the police abandon chases when it endangers the public. It's not acceptable to create a danger to catch a criminal. In Japan, chases don't really happen, they just take down your plate and visit your house.

Again, it is not okay to endanger the public, even to apprehend a suspect.

Again, letting them go also endangers the public. Probably even more so. Especially since they'll be fleeing and can cause an accident. Or run someone over. Or could be on their way to committing another crime. O possibly going to get a hostage. If they don't care about running a cop over, they most likely won't care about running anyone else over, as well... That's why it would be better to not let them flee... To keep the rest of the public safe.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

letting them flee endangers the public...

If they're not being shot at or have a car up their ass, they have no reason to endanger anybody else. If they can get away, the public is safer.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

and stop fucking trying to say the cops are throwing themselves on/under the car. clearly not the example given, stop being so dense.

What was the topic title again?

What do you think of cops who purposely jump in front of the car of a fleeing

ASlaveObeys posted...

it becomes, at minimum assault with a deadly weapon if you try to drive into someone in front of you.

They're trying to drive past, typically.

wwinterj25 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdhE3xZBGKU

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/26/police-forces-review-car-chase-policy-as-figures-show-pursuit-re/
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So they reviewed it in 2016? Thanks for that.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/police-pursuits
"making clear that a suspect being pursued is responsible for their own decision to drive dangerously and that blame should not be attached to the pursuing police officer"

EvilMegas posted...

Lol ah fuck it boys, we'll get him at home.

P sure they just sit eating doughnuts while watching speed chases.

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"in front of"
not "on top of"

kyuubi is either being intentionally obtuse, or just can't comprehend basic english...

JebronLames posted...

....suspect and then sometimes when the suspect in the car still tries to get away by moving the car forward, then the cop shoots sometimes claiming that the suspect is trying to use the car as a weapon? You hear about this stuff happening here and there. Do you have a problem with cops doing this?

they don't jump onto the car. they don't jump 2 feet in front of the car while it's speeding forward...
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