Board 8 > The Board 8 Pokemon Go Topic: 2020 Edition

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Thats awesome XIII !

I'm still trying to get more understanding of the Pokemon Go battle system but there are still some mechanical details that still escape me.

For example is it better to have a higher or lower level Pokemon at the same cp? Imagine a Pokemon of max IVs and minimum IVs but the same cp. Is there any functional difference between them?

And clearly 2 Pokemon of the same CP are not created equally so what is it about the ratio of Attack, Defense, Stamina and level that would make one better than another?

I mean I do okay. My 2500 team is Swampert, Charizard and Alolan Mil, all with two charger moves available so with my comp and decent bar management I've been consistently winning 3 or 4 games out of 5. But I'm not even high enough to see my ELO yet.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

For example is it better to have a higher or lower level Pokemon at the same cp? Imagine a Pokemon of max IVs and minimum IVs but the same cp. Is there any functional difference between them?

And clearly 2 Pokemon of the same CP are not created equally so what is it about the ratio of Attack, Defense, Stamina and level that would make one better than another?

Use the app PokeGenie, it can tell you the optimal IV for a Great or Ultra League Poke

Usually lower attack is better. Something to do with how CP is distributed

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For instance I have a Swampert with 1atk/4def/15hp stats but this is apparently a fantastic layout for Ultra League - 94.16% (where 100% is the best possible IV combination).

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Is that just for hitting the optimal cp exactly, or is the reduced attack legitimately meaningful?

I use Calcy IV so I'll have to see if they have similar functions.

And Swampert in particular is used because its fast attack doesn't do a ton of damage but generates energy like nobody's business. As a result I generally build up a shield advantage. So with that role in mind I can see where the low attack helps, but Charizard is the opposite where his fast attacks put in just as much work as his charged. Would he lose value with a lower attack or is the difference negligible?

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No clue man, PokeGenie does the thinking for me on that end

Does CalcyIV use a screen overlay? Genie literally overlays the screen and puts a little button on it, so by scanning the appraise screen of a Pokemon I can know the PVP IV of the Pokemon in question

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My guess would be it's fairly negligible though. Depends how much lower you're talking I guess?

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And everyone is using giratina and it's starting to piss me off.

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My team is fairly anti-Giratina for exactly that reason

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My Alolan muk does all right but sometimes I get screwed and the timing works out where it gets knocked out as I'm queuing up the dark pulse that would even the bout. So it develops a massive advantage heading into the no shields remaining portion of the bout when I should have gone 1 for 1.

I don't have the dust to commit to a level 40 Wigglytuff right now either. But damn if it wouldn't be useful.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

I have a second account and I need 3 friends:
9964 4261 9144

Please and thank you

Still need a couple. I can promise regular gifts from this account to help level it up with friendships. And I still be good for 2+ gifts a week from my main.

Or you can add my alt and delete it after of you want, I just need to get through the special research.

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Thanks! Now I just need to catch a dang ditto

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@everyone

<B>Buy your incense pack in the store. 30 incense for 1 gold!</B>
They are offering these due to COVID 19 so people can play without leaving their house. Also they last for 1 hour instead of 30 minutes until further notice, so that's 30 hours of incense for 1 coin.

March Community day is suspended/postponed.

This weekend's special research (Genesect) is still on.

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That's all for now. Also someone convince me not to spend 8 bucks on the special research. I have like 6 free google dollars from surveys so it's really only like 2 bucks :/

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when you buy the special research, which used to be free, you're making the game worse for other people.

If only incense was a useful item, but as it is, it's not worth the 30 empty spaces it takes up

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Holy hell

I just ran into the following Great league team:

Durant
Abomasnow
Skarmory

My lead Pokemon? Arcanine.

I did not need a second Pokemon.

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wow nice FD

I understand the Community Day decision but am still kinda bummed, I was just going to catch the pokemon showing up in my apartment like usual
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Yeah they could have just said "incense will only spawn abra" during the CD hours or something along those lines.

I also like what Wizards Unite does. During their community days the Tonic of Trace Detection (aka incense) lasts half as long but causes things to show up twice as fast. It's really useful for getting those encounters.

Drakeryn posted...

nice FD

I had a lot less to do with it. I didn't bring a team that was 4x 4x 2x weak to fire :/

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Hey @Drakeryn let me know when you're opening the gift

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(Sorry @Forceful_Dragon I didn't check )

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I don't mind missing the egg since I'm at 40.

Also I've been getting the shit kicked out of me since the pvp league reset. I feel like I'm running into nothing but hard counters and I don't have the dust to put together the team I want yet.

It's very frustrating.

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people still play pokemons go?

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I played SO many rounds before the reset and I always got at least 3 wins but not anymore. I don't have any answer to altaria, azumarril and gyarados and it's all I'm running into right now

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azumarill is the answer to altaria; make ice beam your secondary charge move

as for an answer to azumarill, idk. just have your own (it's what I do)

(I also sometimes use magnezone but it's not the greatest pick because a lot of people run ground-types (whiscash/swampert) to counter registeel)
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I have Clefable and Registeel which can both deal with Altaria, but they very often protect it and switch out immediately

My third is Toxicroak which is OHKOd by Sky Attack every time

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Also @Drakeryn when are you opening the gift dude

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Oh I thought you meant FD instead, so I didn't even check lol

I sent you a gift, feel free to open anytime
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thx

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I am on a pvp win streak of 12 at the moment with the following team:

Arcanine:
Fire Gang
Crunch
Wild Charge

Purified Sandslash:
Mud Shot
Return
Rock Tomb

Primeape:
Counter
Night Slash

It's budget as all hell but has some how kept working. Arcanine and Primeape have been the MVPs by a long shot and sandslash is just sort of there. I plan to switch in vileplume for sandslash once I have enough oddish candy to do so.

Night Slash getting they 1/8 proc feels so good, especially because it's buffing such a strong fast move.

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Feels like you'd be weak - or at least not super well-equipped to deal with - to Azumarill, Altaria and Whiscash, how are you dealing with them?

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Whiscash I go to primeape and trade 1::1
Altaria I try to bait shields with primeape before he gets wrecked and then try to finish with rock tomb.

I don't have an answer for Azumarill. I would still try to do as much damage with primeape and pray that the remaining mons are fire weak. But in reality with this team i should never beat an Azumarill.

Mostly I get by because a lot of people are pretty awful at energy and shield management.

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I hatched a shiny party hat charmander!

Now I wish they could evolve lol.

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Pvp update!

Still rocking the Great League team of Arcanine Primeape and Sandslash on my second account.

Currently 74 wins and 51 losses for a 59.2% win rate. Progress has been slow since hitting 7, currently around 1700 ELO so rank 8 is still a ways off. I tend to finish with 3 wins much more now and struggle to get the encounter on 4 wins. I did get 1 Cobalion encounter already though so that was nice.

I even had a rare win against a comp with both Altaria and Azumarill but it was a damn near thing.

I'm trying to get a lot of games in now because I don't have a team that will be viable in Ultra League on my second account so I'll have to lay off once it rotates. My Ultra team on my main is solid though so I hope to be able to climb to 10 during the Ultra weeks.

How is everyone else doing?

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I made rank 8 on both accounts, very generic GL team of Skarmory/Registeel/Clefable on my main and Whiscash/Registeel/Clefable on my alt.

Main: 129 wins/235 battles, 54.9%
Alt: 69 wins/120 battles, 57.5%

I made rank 8 on both, and feel as though I am unlikely to make rank 9, so I'm simply getting to 2 wins for the Pokemon encounter because I want Rufflet... then phoning it in a lot, surrendering more easily, etc. But I doubt I'd be much higher if I did otherwise. Also quite frankly the stress of trying to make rank 9 and failing would infuriate me, because the game is designed to create close, rage-inducing, addiction-causing losses so I really don't want to play into that.

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I can't imagine why you would ever go to rank 8 in the first place

go to 7, tank your score to the high hundreds and enjoy battling with your favorites.
I imagine even those in low rank 8 are still using boring cookie cutter teams

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I didn't make rank 8 last time despite getting in the mid 2400s because Master League killed me in a big way, so I wanted that monkey off my back. Also better rewards.

Plus I like winning, and "boring cookie cutter teams" give a better chance of winning. I like Pokemon more if they help me win a lot (Arceus, Kyogre are two examples of this back when I played Gen IV ubers competitively). I would grow to resent Pokemon I liked if they continually let me down and caused me to lose matches, in the same way I loathe Pokemon like Ludicolo, Walrein, etc that were specifically designed to slow things down and spoil fun, and caused me to lose matches in a very drawn-out, unfun way.

By using said "boring cookie cutter teams" I stop myself from disliking eg Whiscash because I have it myself and it helps me win matches. And because I have checks on Azumarill etc I don't dislike Azumarill etc so much either.

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With that said, the Pokemon I loathe the absolute most at the moment is Cobalion, because I do not want to catch him as a reward anymore, and the game FORCES YOU TO - often at the cost of many Pokeballs and berries - if you want to battle another set of 5.

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i don't find the pvp fun at all. played enough to get scraggy a couple months ago but have zero desire to play any more.

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yeah, I got Scraggy last season and then the novelty kinda wore off
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XIII_rocks posted...

Plus I like winning, and "boring cookie cutter teams" give a better chance of winning.

I mean if you count battles where I actually tried our win streaks are probably the exact same. I get about 2-3 rare candy rewards a day and usually one wild encounter a day, which is pretty good

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I'm speaking in absolute objective terms

In terms of 1v1 matches you get better results on average with those teams

Like you can't really have that both ways

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It is highly annoying how common Cobalion is as a reward, I don't get anything else and it kills the motivation for me because these battles are not at all that fun.

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I got Rufflet this morning amongst a sea of Cobalions.

Glad that's over. I have the rare candies so I can have Braviary whenever I want, but gonna see if I can get another one at some point soon

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I also now have uh

99 Charged TMs

So that's a lot

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Just hit rank 7. 47 wins 18 losses with Lapras, Primeape, Alolan Marowak

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Got snivy oshawott and cobalion today from battles

It is my right as an american to get that damn eagle

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I would just like some diversity at this point. Go Metagross three times straight for first 3 levels and have gotten only Cobalion since, which I think is 8 times, but I'm not sure. Motivation is seriously dying.

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Gf got a shiny Ekans through an incense yesterday.

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I wish they'd put more eggs in gifts, I had to open six gifts to get a single egg and I still have two egg slots empty

since gift eggs are the only kind of eggs you can get in isolation you'd think they'd raise the drop rate
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I suppose the opposite argument is that you can't really walk too much in isolation? But yeah, I agree it's annoying.

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I live near like 3 or 4 stops so I went outside for like 5m and got them all yesterday

I hate the 7k eggs because they're fossils only and I really just don't need anymore

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ctesjbuvf posted...

I suppose the opposite argument is that you can't really walk too much in isolation? But yeah, I agree it's annoying.

It depends on your phone, mostly. I habitually walk in place while watching shows, etc., and my main phone counts it as Adventure Sync distance. But my old phone (for my alt) doesn't.

Currently I'm missing:

Carracosta (need 28 candy)
Hydreigon (need 40 candy) [currently walking, should have this in under 4 weeks]
Gurdurr/Conkeldurr (need 130 candy) [I got a 100% Timburr, which is pretty cool, but it means I need all the candy]
Axew line
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