Current Events > Was Anakin's virgin birth lore breaking?

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I don't think it was.

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it's a touch silly

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but at this point the force can do literally anything

father a child? check.
drop items across the galaxy via some sort of physical teleportation? check.
help you survive and fly around in the cold, oxygenless bleakness of space? check.
allow you to exist beyond death to be manifested anytime you want as an omnipresent ghost? check.
whatever happened to palpatine? check.
secret whispers across the galaxy? check.

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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed Palpatine created the Force and used the Force to create the galaxy.
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I don't know or care it if was lore breaking but it was horribly offensive.

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DevsBro posted...

I don't know or care it if was lore breaking but it was horribly offensive.

Just because Jesus had a virgin birth doesn't mean no fiction can touch the concept ever.

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DevsBro posted...

I don't know or care it if was lore breaking but it was horribly offensive.

As a dude who's down with the jesus, get the fuck outta here with this shit

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Virgin birth isnt unique to Christianity. But it was dumb in Phantom Menace.

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not lore breaking but totally unnecessary

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Shmi was just a lying skank. What she meant was she didn't know who the dad was because she was getting blasted by limitless Chad dick.

I believe the intent was to imply that Anakin was conceived by Darth Plaguis who used the midichlorians to create life.

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The Jesus and prophecy stuff is so lame. It's just sooo cliche even for a series that's just a bunch of cliches.

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I mean all I did was call it offensive and three out of three people have assumed that was what I was talking about

So

Yeah, it's pretty safe to say either that it was intentional for them to take the evilest dude ever and compare him to Jesus.

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DevsBro posted...

I mean all I did was call it offensive and three out of three people have assumed that was what I was talking about

So

The movie is old enough to drink now, do you think that you're the first person to bring up Jesus in the last 21 years of talking about Star Wars?

I always assumed thst Shmi was lying because she didn't want to admit who the father was.
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DevsBro posted...

I mean all I did was call it offensive and three out of three people have assumed that was what I was talking about

So

Yeah, it's pretty safe to say either that it was intentional for them to take the evilest dude ever and compare him to Jesus.

The Anti-Christ gets described as Jesus coming back.

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Webmaster4531 posted...

The Anti-Christ gets described as Jesus coming back.

Does the Anti-Christ redeem himself by throwing Satan down a giant hole.
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Tenlaar posted...

The movie is old enough to drink now, do you think that you're the first person to bring up Jesus in the last 21 years of talking about Star Wars?

And you think that isn't supporting his point?

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Anakin being a virgin birth wasn't offensive, just stupid (like 90% of the prequels)

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I Like Toast posted...

And you think that isn't supporting his point?

Only if his point is that people have erroneously been jumping straight to Jesus as if that fictional character somehow has dibs on the virgin birth mythos over all the rest of the fictional characters for a long time.

Webmaster4531 posted...

The Anti-Christ gets described as Jesus coming back.

The books of 1 and 2 John contain the only references I can think of to the antichrists, and actually just says that it describes a multitude of people who deny that Jesus is who he said he was.

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So you think people erroneously did the thing that you did. That's your follow up defense

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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

I always assumed that Shmi was lying because she didn't want to admit who the father was.

*cough*Watto*cough*

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I Like Toast posted...

So you think people erroneously did the thing that you did. That's your follow up defense

No, I did not link Anakin straight to Jesus, I linked the post that you made to the argument that you intended it to look like. You aren't clever for making a post that looks like one thing on purpose just so that you can go "Ah ha, gotcha! It only looked like what I wanted it to look like but it wasn't that!"

Anakin's mom was just roofed and doesn't remember being the conductor of a train. Marry just took the tip when she was convinced it didn't count.

Most any fictional story about prophecy, destiny and religious imagery is pretentious and stupid.

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Who says he is actually supposed to represent Jesus?

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I wonder what George's mindset was when he made that plot reveal.

Did he think that following the chronicles of Anakin Skywalker's fall and betrayal of the Jedi wasn't interesting enough so lets imply he's Space Jesus?

Did he always intend for Palpatine to be responsible or was that something he decided years later?
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Scotty_Rogers posted...

Most any fictional story about prophecy, destiny and religious imagery is pretentious and stupid.

Like, if I wanted to be inspired by those things, I'd actually get religion. I'm not gonna be inspired by them when they come from a regular dude or an obvious pervert like George Lucas.

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LordRazziel posted...

Who says he is actually supposed to represent Jesus?

I mean when you make a story that features a commoner woman who immaculately conceived her incredibly gifted son who will change the entire universe the implications speak for itself.
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Darmik posted...

I mean when you make a story that features a commoner woman who immaculately conceived her incredibly gifted son who will change the entire universe the implications speak for itself.

Makes more sense than the Jesus story of Joseph the Ultimate Cuck.

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Darmik posted...

I mean when you make a story that features a commoner woman who immaculately conceived her incredibly gifted son who will change the entire universe the implications speak for itself.

Who says he didn't just borrow the premise, but he doesn't represent Jesus?

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LordRazziel posted...

Who says he didn't just borrow the premise, but he doesn't represent Jesus?

Why did he borrow the premise though.

What does that premise imply
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Darmik posted...

Why did he borrow the premise though.

What does that premise imply

Maybe he just liked it.
Does it have to imply anything beyond the premise itself?

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LordRazziel posted...

Maybe he just liked it.
Does it have to imply anything beyond the premise itself?

It doesn't have to (although is pretty much always does whenever it is used).

But considering what else is said about Anakin in The Phantom Menace it clearly does.
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"Now this is podracing!"
- Jesus Christ

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No. Plagueis and Sidious were able to manipulate the Force to resurrect a dead Sith Lord. But since every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the Force retaliated by spontaneously creating life in the form of Anakin.

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au_gold posted...

"Now this is podracing!"
- Jesus Christ

Jesus's greatest miracle was spinning

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008Zulu posted...

No. Plagueis and Sidious were able to manipulate the Force to resurrect a dead Sith Lord. But since every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the Force retaliated by spontaneously creating life in the form of Anakin.

Wait what where did this happen?

Wait if this explanation already existed why they hell didn't they use it for Rey.
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meralonne posted...

Virgin birth isnt unique to Christianity. But it was dumb in Phantom Menace.

true but everyone is going to think "this motherfucker wrote a virgin birth into his space opera because he's a christian."

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au_gold posted...

"Now this is podracing!"
- Jesus Christ

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HylianFox posted...

Anakin being a virgin birth wasn't offensive, just stupid (like 90% of the prequels)

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au_gold posted...

"Now this is podracing!"
- Jesus Christ

Could be worse.

See: Xenosaga (& my sig)

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Tenlaar posted...

, I linked the post that you made to the argument that you intended it to look like

Might want to start reading usernames bub, but it's okay, your arguing against yourself didn't give you a chance to start with.


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I Like Toast posted...

Might want to start reading usernames bub, but it's okay, your arguing against yourself didn't give you a chance to start with.

Oooh, you got me!

Change "you" to "they" and then shut the fuck up.

Awww, look how upset he gets when he can't figure out how to dig himself out of the hole he made.

Stay mad cutie

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What hole are you imagining? The poster literally made a post that was intended to look like he was making a tired argument that has come up often and then when people assumed that he was making the argument that he wanted it to look like he was making he acted like he had sprung a trap. That is not clever and it doesn't prove anything except that if they want to make a post looking like an idiot they can do it effectively.

In hindsight, it was kind of weird. I guess it was just a tool to get the council to accept him.

"He got mad midichlorians and no father"

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"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and gets everywhere."
- Jesus Christ

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He wasnt.

Qui-Gon was his dad.

When he asked Shmi about the father, he was asking in an intimidating manner and making sure she was keeping her story straight.