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Bio1590
01/10/20 9:54:47 PM
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https://www.metrotimes.com/news- hits/archives/2020/01/10/triggered-trumpers- call-for-violence-against-michigan-democrats-and-muslims-in-vile-facebook-page

An anti-Gov. Gretchen Whitmer group on Facebook devolved into a vile platform that promoted violence against Democrats and Muslims and churned out degrading comments about women.

But on Friday afternoon, the group's creator deactivated the page in response to questions from Metro Times.

The public group, People vs Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, was rapidly growing, attracting nearly 9,000 conservatives of all kinds elected officials, veterans, firefighters, law enforcement officers, educators, pastors, business owners, political candidates, militia members, blue-collar workers, and your garden variety trolls.

Metro Times identified dozens of recent posts promoting or threatening violence, primarily against Whitmer, U.S. Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Elissa Slotkin, American Muslims, and Dearborn. Hundreds of comments were posted each day, and many included vulgar insults against women, Muslims, Democrats, and LGTBQ+ communities.

Tlaib, who is a Muslim American from Detroit, was a common target of the vitriol.

She needs a bullet between her eyes, Spencer Hayward wrote.

Carl Wilhelm Sr. posted, How many teeth you figure you could knock out with one swipe with a baseball bat.

Mike Nixon suggested, set that bitch on fire.

In an exchange about a photo showing Tlaib posing with the Palestinian flag, group members called for the congresswomans death.

Die bitch, Gerald Carter wrote.

Jeannie Percy added, I wish someone would find this b**** in a dark alley.

Tommy Davignon followed up: Death to this bitch and her voters.

These are just a few examples of the hostile comments that fill the grammar-challenged page every day.

We overflood them with imminent death threats, until it stops, one way or another, Michael Dearing explained to the group.

The creator of the page, Charlie Gillett, admits the group has spun out of control and told Metro Times he shut down the page to avoid repercussions at his job as a machine tool electrician in Sterling Heights if his identity is revealed in this story. (Hes listed publicly as the administrator and creator of the page on Facebook.)

But Gillett had done little, if anything, to stop the threats and posts promoting violence, and blamed the anger on Democrats.

People promote violence I can't do anything to stop them. I can block them, ban them, report them but don't matter, Gillett told Metro Times in a statement. Do I agree with it. Some of it no some of it yes. Do I think it gets to far yes most definitely. But for it to stop id have to shut the group down. Then where would people be able to have their voices be heard. Everyone has opinions and not everyone agrees with everyone's point of view."

Joshua Doan, who was the groups co-administrator, told Metro Times he was recruited by Gillett to help launch the page and regrets getting involved. He said he wasn't monitoring the page closely because his primary role was to get the page started.

I do not support or align with those people in the group, Doan said. The only reason I am an admin is to clean it up. I may not be doing the best job. But I am doing the best I can with the time I have. The group is not a very big focus point in my life.

On Thursday evening, Doan alerted the group that he would remove racist and threatening posts, which incensed group members.

Where can I join a militia? Stacie Rose Laesch responded.

A member provided an email address.

By Friday morning, Doan said Gillett removed him as an administrator, giving him no control to delete threats as they continued to stream in.

Its so awful, Doan told Metro Times. These people are so scared and uneducated.

Created in March 2019, the group was intended to stand up against Whitmer, arguing shes tanking our economy and ruining small business. But as more people joined and shared deceptive memes and propaganda masquerading as news, the tone of the page became more sinister, conspiratorial, and hateful.

One story from the conservative site Outraged Patriot falsely suggested Slotkin admits her full allegiance to Qassam Soleimani, the Iranian general who was killed in a U.S. airstrike.

Member Merek Smith suggested Slotkin should be burned and raped.

Off with her head, wrote Joe Hackett, whose main Facebook image is a handgun.

She needs to be hung in the streets for treason, Mike Repke responded.

Many of the threats are very specific. More than a dozen members, for example, called for violence against Tlaib at an event that she was expected to attend this weekend in Livonia. (She is not attending the event.)

I hope someone is waiting for her a few hundred yards away with a scope ready to make that pink mist spray from her skull, Michael Buschert posted on Wednesday.

Dan Hester responded, we should hang out, i will train you..

Robert Heidorf chimed in, Dame like your thinking and many more in them cross hairs to.

Metro Times shared Buscherts comment with his employer, Pleasant Moose Lodge in Newberry, which fired him from his maintenance job this week.

I have relieved Mr. Buschert from his employment, as of this morning, Debra Singleton, the lodges general manager, told Metro Times on Thursday. Thank you again for bringing this to our attention.

Members also raised the specter of violence at the Iraqi Consulate in Southfield, where Muslims where gathering this week to mourn Iraqi victims of a recent U.S. bombing of an Iranian general and others.

This is the type of shit they should shoot up instead of churches lolol. Yeah I said it, Coterie Chapel wrote.

Nellie Snookie Detwiler responded, You say what many of us think but bit our tongues lol.

Danny Stray chimed in, Burn them and their mosques!

Lonnie E. Root agreed: Just kill them all.

Fred Thornell went even further: Fuck it blow them and Detroit up doesnt bother me none if we loose them both.

One of the groups members is state Sen. Peter Lucido, a Republican from Shelby Township who shared at least seven anti-Whitmer posts since Nov. 29. His office did not respond to Metro Times request for an interview.

Other members include at least three Republican congressional members, retired Livingston County Deputy Sheriff Dave Loar, Michigan GOP field director Kipp Welch II, and employees for the state of Michigan and numerous towns and cities.

One of the common themes of the group is sexism. Common names used to
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Bio1590
01/10/20 9:55:04 PM
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People that are gay have a mental sickness and should be treated, Zach Eddy posted. Brian Schulz added, Them lgbtqp queers have the highest suicide rate cuz theyre so confused. If we leave them alone they will follow their own demise.

Members were furious about a news story about Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson considering adding a third gender option on drivers licenses.

I really dont know how much more i can take of this bullshit, Sarah Loach of Flint wrote. Bloodpressure rises every day. I am about to go postal.

Muslims are the most common target of threats and calls for violence.

Bomb Dearborn! Chad Kenworthy posted on Friday. Bruce Botwright agreed: Blow the fuck out of dearborn now.

Under a video showing Muslims praying at a Six Flags theme park, group members expressed outrage.

Umm BOOM, rebuild 6flags .. simple, wrote Rick A. Steele, whose Facebook profile says hes the CEO and owner of Mill Creek Taxidermy in Redford.

Albert Viotti added, So long Six Flags! A big bomb would be bad ass.


What the literal fuck
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Solar_Crimson
01/10/20 9:56:03 PM
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Goddammit, Michigan.

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Frogles
01/10/20 9:57:33 PM
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wow there are bad people im shocked

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Phantom_Nook
01/10/20 10:02:19 PM
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very fine people.

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CADE FOSTER
01/10/20 10:06:02 PM
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So many trump supporters always acting like domestic terrorists
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FarFromFields
01/10/20 10:10:28 PM
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And Facebook doesn't see a problem with hosting this sort of thing.

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Pseudomenon
01/10/20 10:10:48 PM
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To be clear, this is not just a "Trump supporter" thing. He certainly did embolden them but this kind of fear, hatred, and violence is an important part of American right-wing politics.

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CADE FOSTER
01/10/20 10:12:16 PM
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We did not hear much of this during Obama years they making up for it now it's like everyday now
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FarFromFields
01/10/20 10:13:16 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
We did not hear much of this during Obama years they making up for it now it's like everyday now
Boomers didn't know how to use Facebook during the Obama administration.

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Pseudomenon
01/10/20 10:14:36 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
We did not hear much of this during Obama years they making up for it now it's like everyday now
It absolutely was there.

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Unknown834
01/10/20 10:24:28 PM
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So much for the tolerance right.
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Intro2Logic
01/10/20 10:31:00 PM
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Pseudomenon
01/10/20 10:40:35 PM
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spudger
01/10/20 10:41:58 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
a vile platform that promoted violence against Democrats and Muslims and churned out degrading comments about women.

Sounds like standard drivel
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scorpion41
01/10/20 10:44:03 PM
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I mean, being vehemently pro-Iran right now and attacking the Second Amendment is going to rile up the crazies on the right. Democrats know this and yet they still choose to die on those hills.

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spudger
01/10/20 10:45:53 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
I mean, being vehemently pro-Iran right now and attacking the Second Amendment is going to rile up the crazies on the right. Democrats know this and yet they still choose to die on those hills.

And those Republicans die on theirs
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Solar_Crimson
01/10/20 10:49:53 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
I mean, being vehemently pro-Iran right now and attacking the Second Amendment is going to rile up the crazies on the right. Democrats know this and yet they still choose to die on those hills.
So, this is still the Left's fault.

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scorpion41
01/10/20 10:54:57 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
So, this is still the Left's fault.

Just like when the Right goes for their fringe politics on abortion and such, it brings out the crazy SJW and protestors that run around naked in the streets. Theres no reason to kick the hornets nest for the sake of politics.

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CADE FOSTER
01/10/20 11:03:30 PM
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Maybe that hornets nest should be labeled as a terrorist or a hate group
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ChocoboMogALT
01/10/20 11:04:27 PM
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Left: Maybe crazy people shouldn't be allowed to have guns.
Right: How dare you?! I will literally kill you for that.

Not a great message.

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Ving_Rhames
01/10/20 11:16:06 PM
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Trump Supporters are a threat to national security, news at 11.

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creativerealms
01/10/20 11:22:54 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
We did not hear much of this during Obama years they making up for it now it's like everyday now
Yes we did their target was Obama.

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SauI_Goodman
01/10/20 11:36:33 PM
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I always got on fine with the middle easterners. grew up in flint and i believe dearborn has the highest muslim population in north american iirc. but things changed as you would imagine after 9/11 and you could see things get a little tense. i don't see them as often out in vegas.
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ultimate reaver
01/11/20 12:05:02 AM
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Its really funny that people are reporting on this stuff as scary now like there hasnt always been a weird undercurrent of violence to right wing internet discussion. Theyre having to hide it nowadays because more eyes are on them than ever, but places like YouTube and Facebook and news comment sections are absolutely full of it

Unfortunately some people have functioning memory. Im not going to forget about how much people loved to vocalize how much they wanted to plow through protesters blocking streets on their cars before they started having to hide it after Charlottesville

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hockeybub89
01/11/20 12:13:32 AM
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Guide
01/11/20 12:17:19 AM
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Everyone has opinions and not everyone agrees with everyone's point of view.

This is like the red flag of a brainlet racist. Any time I see this, I know it's someone who struggled in English class and feels insecure around people who use words with more than three syllables.

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gatorsPENSbucs
01/11/20 12:24:52 AM
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Frogles posted...
wow there are bad people im shocked


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Bio1590
01/11/20 12:58:20 AM
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Yeah not surprised you'd play this one down gpb
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CADE FOSTER
01/11/20 1:30:01 AM
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Alt right needs to be labeled a terrorist hate group
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Frogles
01/11/20 1:50:07 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Yeah not surprised you'd play this one down gpb
play it down? like it even matters? bruh you're making it bigger than it is. like this is a public group accessible to anyone about something really general. you think all 9000 people and those educators, public officials, firefighters, etc. are making these comments? fuck off man. there are far more important things to be upset over than a few idiots making typical dumbass online posts from a state with a population of around 10 million.

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Guide
01/11/20 1:55:25 AM
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Frogles posted...
play it down? like it even matters? bruh you're making it bigger than it is. like this is a public group accessible to anyone about something really general. you think all 9000 people and those educators, public officials, firefighters, etc. are making these comments? fuck off man. there are far more important things to be upset over than a few idiots making typical dumbass online posts from a state with a population of around 10 million.

"there are worse things so you shouldn't be upset over anything that isn't as bad"

You could at least try being less transparent, you amorphous gas leak, you low density vapor.

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DarthDemented
01/11/20 2:00:02 AM
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Sooooo...these people being slowly but surely picked up for making terroristic threats? Or the law just gonna let this slide?

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Pseudomenon
01/11/20 2:01:34 AM
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Frogles posted...
play it down? like it even matters? bruh you're making it bigger than it is. like this is a public group accessible to anyone about something really general. you think all 9000 people and those educators, public officials, firefighters, etc. are making these comments? fuck off man. there are far more important things to be upset over than a few idiots making typical dumbass online posts from a state with a population of around 10 million.
And this is why the right has a massive kill count. Fuck off.

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Frogles
01/11/20 2:08:53 AM
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Pseudomenon posted...
And this is why the right has a massive kill count. Fuck off.
because of frogles on gamefaqs pointing out that these posts are from random idiots that happen to be in the same facebook group as some somewhat influential people? are you gonna make a topic pointing to my post and expressing how DISGUSTED you are now.

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Pseudomenon
01/11/20 2:18:11 AM
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Being a spineless coward enabler on gamefaqs is still being a spineless coward enabler. Your attitude is why far right extremism is a real and growing threat. Once again, fuck off.

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Frogles
01/11/20 2:29:28 AM
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calling out tc on his bullshit isn't being a spineless coward enabler. when i see death threats and posts like that i report them in whatever meaningful way i can. i don't make take advantage of them by making topics on gamefaqs and try to paint a ton of people with the same brush as a coupe of vocal morons. spreading this shit while trying to mislead others into believing that innocent people also had a hand in it PROBABLY has more to do with extremism rising than me just brushing it off, despite that still not being the primary reason for the increase in violence.

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The Great Muta 22
01/11/20 2:39:14 AM
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Frogles posted...
because of frogles on gamefaqs pointing out that these posts are from random idiots that happen to be in the same facebook group as some somewhat influential people? are you gonna make a topic pointing to my post and expressing how DISGUSTED you are now.

Trying to defend people making terroristic threats is a bad look. You should stop doing that

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Webmaster4531
01/11/20 2:52:05 AM
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FYI Gator recently got modded for referencing white supremacist propaganda.

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ninjarobot_22
01/11/20 3:04:58 AM
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Racist gonna racist.
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gatorsPENSbucs
01/11/20 12:35:55 PM
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What exactly did I do Web?

call me out, completely call me out. I still dont have the slightest idea of what I did so please explain to me and everyone else what I did and why youre calling me out

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Bio1590
01/11/20 1:06:00 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
What exactly did I do Web?

call me out, completely call me out. I still dont have the slightest idea of what I did so please explain to me and everyone else what I did and why youre calling me out

Gators, I don't understand why you think continuing to play dumb after you made an overt 14 Words reference in a topic about white nationalism/supremacy is either a good look for you or even the slightest bit believable.

Especially considering how ardently you defended James Fields after he murdered Heather Heyer.
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gatorsPENSbucs
01/11/20 1:30:42 PM
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So youre calling me out now on shit youre assuming.

please tell me what else Im thinking since apparently people here know my every thought

and I dont know those people you named, if youre gonna call me out please fully call me out with details and specifics so I can see how much garbage youre full of

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gatorsPENSbucs
01/11/20 1:31:55 PM
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Its wild that you all assume the dumbest shit because of whatever is stuck in your head. Grow up and join the real world.

and this will continue for everyone trying to call me out

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MrMallard
01/11/20 1:33:01 PM
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What, you'll continue to double-post at people?

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gatorsPENSbucs
01/11/20 1:33:59 PM
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Sure will.

and hopefully someone will finally tell me exactly whats wrong with the number 14 because I still dont have the slightest idea of what that random number did to warrant all this shit

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Bio1590
01/11/20 1:35:43 PM
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Bio1590 posted...


Gators, I don't understand why you think continuing to play dumb...is either a good look for you or even the slightest bit believable.

Amazing how I JUST said this and he immediately continues doing the same thing
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Null_Gain
01/11/20 1:36:07 PM
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Have any of you heard the new story going around in right wing circles about rashida tlaib? This one has her having a rally of some sort near some location where communion was being given. The story has her taking a wafer and then walking away with it afterwards without eating it.

The guy telling me this (a Trump supporter) had this wide eyed expression, inferring he believes this story is true.

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MrMallard
01/11/20 1:36:24 PM
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What was the deal with that Frogles account anyway?

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