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DundiesAward
01/14/20 11:17:44 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/justin-trudeau-blames-plane-crash-on-trump-and-irans-escalation-2020-1

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has suggested that President Donald Trump bears some responsibility for Iran's downing of a commercial plane last week an accident that happened hours after Iran retaliated against the US for assassinating its top military leader. In a new interview, Trudeau argued that Iran never would have shot the plane down killing all 176 passengers and crew members, including 63 Canadians if the conflict between the US and Iran hadn't recently escalated. "If there were no tensions, if there was no escalation recently in the region, those Canadians would be right now home with their families," Trudeau told Canada's Global News in an interview Monday. Trump's decision to kill Iran's top military commander, Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, sparked fears of a larger confrontation between the two countries.

"This is something that happens when you have conflict and war," Trudeau added. "Innocents bear the brunt of it, and it is a reminder why all of us need to work so hard on de-escalation, moving forward to reduce tensions and find a pathway that doesn't involve further conflict and killing." Trudeau echoed the sentiment of other close US allies who felt undermined by the Trump's unilateral actions toward Iran. The Canadian leader said he "obviously" would have preferred that the US government warn him that it was planning the deadly strike against Soleimani.

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Duncanwii
01/14/20 11:19:16 PM
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Trump doesnt care.

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TomNook20
01/14/20 11:20:14 PM
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BlackSheep715
01/14/20 11:21:07 PM
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He's right

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Doom_Art
01/14/20 11:22:47 PM
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He's not wrong

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/14/20 11:23:05 PM
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If Trump had just invaded Iran, those Canadians would still be alive

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Duncanwii
01/14/20 11:23:42 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
If Trump had just invaded Iran, those Canadians would still be alive
If Trump invaded Iran a lot more people would be dead.

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Geiki Ganger
01/14/20 11:27:42 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
If Trump invaded Iran a lot more people would be dead.

But more Canadians would be alive.

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Keith_Valentine
01/14/20 11:28:02 PM
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Hes a dumb fuck, an opportunist, and a coward.

Only an asshole would blame Trump more than the hostile nation that actually blew up a passenger plane because they were so scared they were gonna get bombed. They cant take a few extra minutes to verify what theyre attacking? Who pulled the trigger? This is disgusting.

Wonder who these people would blame if Trump blew up an Iranian passenger plane? Iran, for putting Trump on edge with their missile attacks? I dont think so. Trudeau is pure bitch.
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/14/20 11:29:14 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
If Trump invaded Iran a lot more people would be dead.

Are terrorists really even people?

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Phantom_Nook
01/14/20 11:29:44 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Hes a dumb fuck, an opportunist, and a coward.
yes, Trump is.

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Duncanwii
01/14/20 11:30:58 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Are terrorists really even people?
Yes because every single person in Iran is a terrorist. People like you ate why the world hates our country.

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/14/20 11:32:36 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Yes because every single person in Iran is a terrorist. People like you ate why the world hates our country.

You dumb

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Zeeak4444
01/14/20 11:33:30 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Hes a dumb fuck, an opportunist, and a coward.

Only an asshole would blame Trump more than the hostile nation that actually blew up a passenger plane because they were so scared they were gonna get bombed. They cant take a few extra minutes to verify what theyre attacking? Who pulled the trigger? This is disgusting.

Wonder who these people would blame if Trump blew up an Iranian passenger plane? Iran, for putting Trump on edge with their missile attacks? I dont think so. Trudeau is pure bitch.

Bares some responsibility

I know reading is hard but this is elementary level stuff here.

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Sariana21
01/14/20 11:44:11 PM
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Shame on him for baring responsibility! Responsiblity should stay covered up.

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Keith_Valentine
01/14/20 11:50:05 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Bares some responsibility

I know reading is hard but this is elementary level stuff here.

Shut the fuck up.

Trudeau has a chance to confront the shithole country that is actually responsible for an attack that killed his people. What does he do? Makes excuses for Iran, waffles and shifts blame to Trump. Doesnt call out Iran for being the murdering scum they are, and they had the audacity to freakin lie about it until the evidence was overwhelming. Hes a Pussy.

Trump didnt blow up that plane. Iran did. You get that? I know thinking is hard but thats elementary.
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Doom_Art
01/14/20 11:51:26 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Makes excuses for Iran
I haven't seen that

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Duncanwii
01/14/20 11:53:43 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Trump didnt blow up that plane. Iran did.
After we murdered their guy for embassy attacks we still don't have evidence he was going to do. We threw the first stone.

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Flintlock_Staff
01/14/20 11:54:44 PM
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He's already got on Iran's ass about the crash anyways and probably still is. A small quip at the USA isn't putting all the blame on us
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Hinxray
01/14/20 11:58:31 PM
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We killed a terrorist which should have been taken care of by Bush or Obama, but wasn't. Trump finished it.

Iran shot down a commercial plane. That has nothing to do with the US. Just further proof that they aren't responsible or intelligent enough to be trusted in any way. Anyone trying to blame this on Trump is just grasping at straws.

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Doom_Art
01/15/20 12:06:58 AM
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Hinxray posted...
That has nothing to do with the US
How do you figure

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Hinxray
01/15/20 12:12:25 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
How do you figure

I didn't realize the US was in charge of Iran's intelligence gathering and firing their weapons. How do YOU figure we're responsible for their attack on a commercial plane?

Edit: But if what you mean is in retaliation. Then YES I do believe that has something to do with us, because we are allies with Canada. So if Canada whats to take out a few more Iranian targets I think we should help them out.

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linid0t
01/15/20 12:16:57 AM
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God Trudeau is such an idiot. Wait til he holds no one accountable and does absolutely nothing
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Doom_Art
01/15/20 12:20:14 AM
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linid0t posted...
God Trudeau is such an idiot. Wait til he holds no one accountable and does absolutely nothing
What in your mind should be done?

Hinxray posted...
. So if Canada whats to take out a few more Iranian targets
Yeah we don't really do that here

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Keith_Valentine
01/15/20 12:25:00 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I haven't seen that

5th line of TCs original post.

'In a new interview Trudeau argued that Iran never would have shot the plane down if conflict between the US and Iran hadnt escalated' 'Trump bares some responsibility for the deaths of 63 Canadians' ' If there were no escalations, no tensions, those Canadians would be home with their families'

Bitch, those Canadians would be home with their families if IRAN HADNT BLOWN THEM UP. Thats making excuses for those dumb fucks and shifting to split blame with Trump. When Iran are the ones that launched the missile. Its ridiculous and shows that Trudeau is a chickenshit backstabber.

Duncanwii posted...
After we murdered their guy for embassy attacks we still don't have evidence he was going to do. We threw the first stone.

Bullshit.

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/terrorism-fundamentalism/27175-who-was-the-vicious-criminal-qassem-soleimani

This punk has been attacking us for years, he orchestrated the killings of an estimated 600 US military forces and even more Iraqi civilians. Fuck him

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Bio1590
01/15/20 12:25:40 AM
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linid0t posted...
God Trudeau is such an idiot. Wait til he holds no one accountable and does absolutely nothing

Why do you keep repeating this statement as if Canada actually has any power over a country they haven't had formal diplomatic relations with since 2012
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GameboyTroy
01/15/20 12:30:25 AM
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It's 100% Trump's fault.

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Doom_Art
01/15/20 12:32:26 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...


'In a new interview Trudeau argued that Iran never would have shot the plane down if conflict between the US and Iran hadnt escalated' 'Trump bares some responsibility for the deaths of 63 Canadians' ' If there were no escalations, no tensions, those Canadians would be home with their families'
I really don't see what your issue is with this

Trump's actions the last several weeks have been ultimately pointless and erratic

When you bring tensions up like that these sorts of accidents become inevitable


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linid0t
01/15/20 12:32:54 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Why do you keep repeating this statement as if Canada actually has any power over a country they haven't had formal diplomatic relations with since 2012

Because Trudeau is trying to look good in his attempt to fool Canadians into believing he will somehow manage to accomplish anything here. Stop pretending we even have any willingness or power in this. Talk about the victims, who they were, let's remember them - not try and act tough when the rest of the world knows Trudeau is a lapdog. Its embarrassing that hes the face of our nation
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Doom_Art
01/15/20 12:36:21 AM
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linid0t posted...
er in this. Talk about the victims, who they were, let's remember them

Literally what's been happening the last several days


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Zikten
01/15/20 12:37:12 AM
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GameboyTroy posted...
It's 100% Trump's fault.
Not really. Some of the blame is on Iran. They were idiots to not shut down airspace during a military attack. The confusion would not have occurred if they had canceled all incoming flights during the time period they chose to unleash their missiles
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linid0t
01/15/20 12:43:19 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Literally what's been happening the last several days

You conveniently cut off the part where i specifically said he needs to cut the crap about pretending he has any willingness or power to do anything about the situation

https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-pm-justin-trudeau-vows-190552955.html

"Canada will not rest until there is "justice and accountability" for the victims of the plane shot down by an Iranian missile, Justin Trudeau said."

Okay now Justin show us. Get us justice big guy.
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Bio1590
01/15/20 12:50:42 AM
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linid0t posted...


Because Trudeau is trying to look good in his attempt to fool Canadians into believing he will somehow manage to accomplish anything here. Stop pretending we even have any willingness or power in this. Talk about the victims, who they were, let's remember them - not try and act tough when the rest of the world knows Trudeau is a lapdog. Its embarrassing that hes the face of our nation

So you're "upset" that Trudeau isn't doing anything because he's apparently only pretending he's going to be able to do something?

Okay. Stop trolling over this shit.
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linid0t
01/15/20 12:54:24 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
So you're "upset" that Trudeau isn't doing anything because he's apparently only pretending he's going to be able to do something?

Okay. Stop trolling over this shit.

I'm not trolling just because I have an opinion. It's a tragic event, and while people are mourning we have a Prime Minister do countless podium calls where his rhetoric is justice and calls to action. Just stop the charade. I voted Liberal because I value most of what they stand for here in Canada but Trudeau is a shitty leader and always has been.

Its not trolling to be unhappy with how our elected PM is handling situations.
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Lorenzo_2003
01/15/20 12:59:11 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What in your mind should be done?

Yeah we don't really do that here

Well, he could bomb one of their generals, for starters.

i am kidding.

or am I?

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Keith_Valentine
01/15/20 1:00:29 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I really don't see what your issue is with this

Trump's actions the last several weeks have been ultimately pointless and erratic

When you bring tensions up like that these sorts of accidents become inevitable

How do you Not get it? We are at war in the middle east, genius. Whether you or me like it or not. Iran has been Attacking and Killing our soldiers, under the direction of Soleimani. Now hes dead and burning in Hell. Thanks Trump, now Iran knows they cant fuck with us without consequences.

'These sorts of accidents become inevitable'

An accident huh? How many dead, 170? They fired a missile on purpose, get that through your thick skull. They need to take accountability. Stepping on someones foot is an accident. Blowing up a civilian airliner is a huge fuck up and murder. Fuck Iran for this. They tried to blame the US too, and they lied about it.
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coh
01/15/20 1:07:38 AM
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People act like we just completely unprovoked decided to kill Soleimani

I don't get it.
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Doom_Art
01/15/20 1:09:57 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
We are at war in the middle east, genius.
What war is currently being fought

And let's not get all fucking plural here. Canada has some troops in Afghanistan but is otherwise fairly uninvolved in the region

Keith_Valentine posted...
Iran has been Attacking and Killing our soldiers,
I mean America has also killed Iranians, sabotaged their infrastructure and overthrown their government in the past. Not saying any sort of violence is deserved but let's not act as though the US is an innocent bystander here. The US and Iran both have been engaged in gradual escalation and tit for tat against each other

Keith_Valentine posted...
They fired a missile on purpose
About half the victims were Iranian citizens

Get that through your thick skull

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Zeeak4444
01/15/20 3:14:30 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Shut the fuck up.

Trudeau has a chance to confront the shithole country that is actually responsible for an attack that killed his people. What does he do? Makes excuses for Iran, waffles and shifts blame to Trump. Doesnt call out Iran for being the murdering scum they are, and they had the audacity to freakin lie about it until the evidence was overwhelming. Hes a Pussy.

Trump didnt blow up that plane. Iran did. You get that? I know thinking is hard but thats elementary.

Well, you see, if you were able to read then I never would have had to speak in the first place.

Best way to shut me up is to not say stupid shit.

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shnangyboos
01/15/20 3:18:58 AM
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Dude punches me in the mouth, I pull out my gun and start shooting wildly, missing the guy who punched me and killing three bystanders, the dude who punched me needs to accept his share of the blame.

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Keith_Valentine
01/15/20 3:39:21 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What war is currently being fought

And let's not get all fucking plural here. Canada has some troops in Afghanistan but is otherwise fairly uninvolved in the region

I mean America has also killed Iranians, sabotaged their infrastructure and overthrown their government in the past. Not saying any sort of violence is deserved but let's not act as though the US is an innocent bystander here. The US and Iran both have been engaged in gradual escalation and tit for tat against each other

About half the victims were Iranian citizens

Get that through your thick skull

B-b-but America did this, America did that. I always know whos gonna crawl out of the woodwork when theres a chance to shit on the US and Trump, no matter how fucked up it is. Youre so far gone a terrorist supporting country blows up a plane and you find a way to say its Trumps fault. Pathetic. And how does half the victims being Iranian make any of this any better?? Irans so stupid they blew their own citizens up too, wow. And you act like you made some good point, pfft, you aint saying shit. Hater

Zeeak4444 posted...
Well, you see, if you were able to read then I never would have had to speak in the first place.

Best way to shut me up is to not say stupid shit.

I can obviously fucking read. What i have said has a helluva lot more actual thought put into it than your sarcastic, weak ridicule.

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Zeeak4444
01/15/20 4:24:43 AM
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Dont get mad at me for your own mistake lol.


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kingdrake2
01/15/20 4:33:55 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
The US and Iran both have been engaged in gradual escalation and tit for tat against each other


trump did start it off at least for the escalation by pulling out of the deal he's at fault for that. still the blame is on iran for the missile hitting the plane.
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Keith_Valentine
01/15/20 5:36:15 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Dont get mad at me for your own mistake lol.

You're just another generic smartass.

kingdrake2 posted...
trump did start it off at least for the escalation by pulling out of the deal he's at fault for that. still the blame is on iran for the missile hitting the plane.

Trump pulling out of the nuclear deal started this escalation...? I feel like you dont actually know very much about this. The nuclear deal where we paid Iran a billion dollars and trusted them not to pursue building nukes? Then unfroze tens of billions of dollars in assets for them? Man, do you even know what Iran is? You really think they are just after nuclear power? If that was true, they wouldnt have been hiding their program for years and building centrifuges and warhead technology. Obama got played for a sucker and the billions he unleashed, Iran turned around and used to fund terrorists all across the world. Because they are the biggest state supporter of terror there is!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

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Hinxray
01/15/20 2:23:58 PM
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Notice how everyone blaming Trump has no follow up. They just leave it at that.

Please explain how the president of the US is responsible for IRAN shooting down a commercial plane.

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Wokebebe
01/15/20 2:26:23 PM
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Obviously its Trumps fault that Iran blew up their own plane that was taking off from their own airport. Trump made the Iranians do that to distract from his impeachment.

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Questionmarktarius
01/15/20 2:29:02 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
He's not wrong
In the same sense that Reagan was partly responsible for KAL007, sure.
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Anticyclonic
01/15/20 2:29:44 PM
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shnangyboos posted...
Dude punches me in the mouth, I pull out my gun and start shooting wildly, missing the guy who punched me and killing three bystanders, the dude who punched me needs to accept his share of the blame.

Why did he punch you?

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