Board 8 > Eff 2019 Mafia: Topic 4 - The Oscars That Nobody Hosted

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turbopuns3 posted...

Who are your top scum now?

You twll me

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Oh hey Ben what does your lock on target do? You said that it would be activated today? Or did you lie to us that you have some kind of fancy role?

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Good news everyone! I am back to 100% health

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Hey guys,

I want to damn Chris for not saving red, but that's a hard thing to pull off under the circumstances. Granted Chris saw the cop claim and had ten minutes to attempt to save him. However there were multiple people capable of making moves, myself included. However I never even saw the claim, just the quadvotes and that was with like 5 minutes left.

Puns, why do you feel so stronglyabout Chris being scum?
MI, why didn't you unvote when red claimed Cop.?

We've all given cop claims benefits of the doubt jn the past. What made this game so different.

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Obellisk posted...

Puns, why do you feel so stronglyabout Chris being scum?

In due time, grasshopper.

Ben, you said you gave IGCD a present. Yet we'rent you voting for him?

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Puns get your ass in our private chat, I am done fucking around.

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turbopuns3 posted...

In due time, grasshopper.

Yes sensei

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Obellisk posted...

Puns, why do you feel so stronglyabout Chris being scum?
MI, why didn't you unvote when red claimed Cop.?

This... MI why didnt you unvote???

And Puns i have a different question
. After you saw that Red claimed Cop why didnt you mayor?!

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You guys are asking the wrong questions. You are focusing on a minute period of time where we can't even be sure all of the scum were heavily active instead of going based off the day broadly. It's ok luckily I woke up on the right side of the bed today so I will delve into this.


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Chris how is asking puns why he didnt save our cop a bad question?!

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You don't understand the difference between a bad question and the wrong question. It's an OK question, but it won't lead us to where we want to go, so it is the wrong question.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

You don't understand the difference between a bad question and the wrong question. It's an OK question, but it won't lead us to where we want to go, so it is the wrong question.

Okay thats fair..

Okay new question beside yourself (i buy that you were sick and couldnt format in time) on the red vote who is the most likely to have saved red by unvoting? Like who is the foolish town who didnt unvote?

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Well I was asked last night my thoughts on Mzero and I didn't have any but him going from voting red to "Chris why didn't you save red" is just plain funny. MI is probably town barring hilarity and there are only 3 people on red due to MI deciding that he was awesome at a game he clearly is not awesome at oh sorry that was critique I am now going to be accused of being a hater.

Also Scare is just straight up spinning falsehoods about Red. Him going "WHERE DID I GO WRONG!?" when I am right here being like "I kept pointing out small things all day that made Red likely town."

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I stated this yesterday too but I just flat out didn't buy the claim. As soon as pressure was off red he afk'd away again. Then I put him in the lead and he claimed cop. It read as a last minute hail marry. Clearly I was wrong but that was what I felt.

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Hey I think you are town, mistakes happen but not listening to the person who has known red for 20 years is hubris and then to come out day 2 and be like "I want to lynch you" is equally so. I am going to fight for my life today for the audacity of not being 100% and also by repeatedly all day saying please don't lynch red. I have to counter that by noting that the minds behind this lynch aren't really perfect.

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I was actually responding to Sultan there, just didn't quote him

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I didnt really know how it be possible for me to save red so i was hoping i was wrong about Red being town and no one would listen to me to go on HB and Scare definitely looks the worst and wasnt really looking town all day before the end of the day. And ugly sonic claim idk

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However I will say that I know scum Chris will defend town red/blade because he feels if he doesn't it looks suspicious.

So I don't think you defending red throughout the day is a town tell.

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Have the free post then.

Anyway MI Red noted, now dead town, that you were having either a scum game or a bad town game. My advice to you is to take that opinion to heart and flip your view of the game and fast.

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I will say that I have literally murdered town red day 1 and gone on to sweep games before!

And have killed town blade as town just to prove a point before.

I sometimes wonder how much you really 'know' me.

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I know there can be exceptions but I have a clear memory of being scum with you and you posting in the scum board saying you couldn't go after red because if you did, he would know you were scum.

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The problem with being a great scum player is nuance is lost and pointing it out won't help.

And the 5star kill?

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Probably a redirection role is my guess. I didn't want to state that last night but then death said it. I can't fathom any scum team agreeing to kill star.

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Hm, hadn't considered that. I thought scum had a power tell on him!

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

You guys are asking the wrong questions. You are focusing on a minute period of time where we can't even be sure all of the scum were heavily active instead of going based off the day broadly. It's ok luckily I woke up on the right side of the bed today so I will delve into this.

Hardly. Plenty of time, along with plenty of people who made the choice. Almost assuredly a chosen lynch by Scum. Fuck, Hb doesn't even have to be Scum for that, though he probably is.

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MI voted 4 times.

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TotallyNotMI posted...

Probably a redirection role is my guess. I didn't want to state that last night but then death said it. I can't fathom any scum team agreeing to kill star.

If the scum team was Blade, Chris, Han, Corrik, and Lea or you, I would imagine that team doesn't care who they night killed with the cop dead.

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1) Ben
2) Blade
4) Corrik
5) Death
6) Han
7) Hbthebattle
8) IGCD
9) Lea
10) MI
11) MZero
12) Sbell
13) Puns
14) Red
15) Scare
16) Starscream
17) SultanOfSlam

14 non me people alive, and of those 14 probably 5 scum or 4 scum with overpowered roles.

So anyway I was going to go the CHAOS route but then I decided it would be more fun to just try for once in mafia, its been awhile since I have done that. So I was recruited into a chat last night by Lea along with Puns. The only possible configurations that make sense for the three of us (from my perspective obviously) is that we are all town, Lea is scum and had to recruit two town members in order for scum to execute an extra kill really that would be an awesome mechanic and I havent ruled it out) or Lea town and puns scum. I rule them both being scum out because that mechanic would be very mean to trap me with two scum and being the sole arbiter to stop a kill. Well technically it is a lynch. Have no fear as long as I, town vanilla Chris, am alive I will not let them shoot anyone I dont want them to shoot which is mostly Scare and ICGD right now.

IGCD does not usually give me the benefit of the doubt as town, to my great annoyance. Lets check two posts out from him in particular:

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Unvote
Vote: MI
My vote on Lea isnt going to do anything so giving Chris the benefit of the doubt seems reasonable.

Now lets look at his tirade against me:

IfGodCouldDie posted...
I literally started the game off trying to poke you, you didn't want anything to do with it. When YOU are town you shut that shit down. When YOU are town my antics tend to piss you off and you try and put me in my place you haven't done that at all this game. Don't put your shitty play on me because you refuse to engage.

Apparently suspecting him goes from giving me the benefit of the doubt is reasonable to you have played shitty despite most of the shitty play happening when I didnt poke him back but he still gave me the benefit of the doubt.

Moving on from that, the top four lynches of the day were MI, IGCD, HB, and Red. I think Scare is scummy but the break down should probably be comparing HB and IGCD with my preference obvious.

The Red lynch is an impossible lynch to be used to save anyone. Why? Unless you think MI is scum, all of his votes happened well before end of day. HBs own lack of vote on red is pretty telling too - He had no problems voting MI as a pure self preservation vote earlier. He was very up front about it, but he didnt muster the ability to do it at end day. To me that suggests town not calculating scum, and believe me scum HB is for sure calculating. Scum HB really has nothing to lose by going I know I am town lets vote red here but the lack of vote lends credence, to me, to the chaotic nature of end of day.

Also if I am right about everything so far, IGCDs vote on me at end of day, a vanity vote, makes sense. All three people are town, why does scum care at all who dies? I dont think they did. The train movements dont make much sense for that to be the case. Reds wagon at the end was Mzero, Svare from awhile ago, and then quad voter MI. The sheer lack of rapid movement highly suggests to me HB is town.

So for now IGCD is the only reasonable lynch imo. Not only based on my personal read, but wagon analysis as well!

##vote: IGCD

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

IGCD does not usually give me the benefit of the doubt as town, to my great annoyance.

This is such a lie. I constantly and consistently give you the benefit of the doubt. I have repeatedly said that I try and follow the better players because I know I am shit at mafia. You never see me praising my own play and I don't understand why others will say I'm not a terrible player.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

MI voted 4 times.

So? And reading your analysis, you're still ignoring that Red was perfectly savable.

With ALL of the people who were around to do it, SOMEBODY has to be Scum. Unless you think 7 people decided that claimed Cop should be lynched just cuz. In fact, the lack of movement is probably evidence in favor, and not against like you're making it out to be. Moment somebody ties it up, any of the people in wait who didn't pop onto Hb could throw their vote onto Red.

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turbopuns3 posted...

And MI is town who is withholding the fact he mysteriously received extra votes mid-day?

To draw scums shots maybe?

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oh what?
Lea needs to explain why he picked you and Puns

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mostly Puns

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Han, youre hyperfocusing on the chaotic last 5 minutes of the game where no one knew what the hell was going on. Red would never have been in that position if not for you, so why are you blaming the people who were arguing against Reds lynch all day? Its ridiculous!
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##vote:God

it seemslike a good option. Scare also seems to be a good option.

I trust chris and feel as if i already had a slight scum lean on God anyways so lets see where this goes

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The non reaction by han and igcd of a major role reveal is interesting.

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Hbthebattle posted...

where no one knew what the hell was going on.

this might actually be the dumbest thing you've said all game. And you've said some doozies!

DoomTheGyarados posted...

The non reaction by han and igcd of a major role reveal is interesting.

how is you claiming vanilla major?

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Dont care at all that I was recruited into a chat by lea?

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Next hell say Youre probably just scum and this is a ploy
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oh I didn't read that lol

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I'm not following. Are you implying you three have a night kill that you can decide on and use together?

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Correct. A lynch

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##vote:God

it seemslike a good option. Scare also seems to be a good option.

I trust chris and feel as if i already had a slight scum lean on God anyways so lets see where this goes

Why do you have a scum lean on me? Did you read Chris' post and or my response to it?

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Correct. A lynch

Can you be more specific? It's important to know if you're telling the truth about this or lying.

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It might be a silly read but you know who wanted to kill 5tar majority of the Day God. So maybe god still wanted to kill 5tar.. might be the best explanation unless maybe they guessed he was a power player and guessed wrong?

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I mean I have two other people lol

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

It might be a silly read but you know who wanted to kill 5tar majority of the Day God. So maybe god still wanted to kill 5tar.. might be the best explanation unless maybe they guessed he was a power player and guessed wrong?

What the fuck is this?

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I mean I have two other people lol

idk based on what puns has said so far it seems like you're lying

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

What the fuck is this?

Did you or did you not want to kill 5tar for most of the day? Or am i still confusing you and Hb in my head?

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