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KCF0107 03/06/20 11:20:03 PM #202: |
Round 1 Recap
1. Chiefs - Eastern Washington OLB Samson Ebukan 2. Titans - Texas A&M WR Mike Evans 3. Panthers - North Dakota St. QB Carson Wentz 4. Jets - Florida St. CB Jalen Ramsey 5. Lions - California QB Jared Goff 6. Browns - Mississippi St. QB Dak Prescott 7. Pioneers - Maryland WR Stefon Diggs 8. Bills - Utah OT Garrett Bolles 9. 49ers - North Carolina QB Mitchell Trubisky 10. Lightning - Pittsburgh DT Aaron Donald 11. Bengals - Grand Valley State OLB Matthew Judon 12. Steelers - Florida OT D.J. Humphries 13. Pioneers - Minnesota WR Eric Decker 14. Falcons - Northern Iowa HB David Johnson 15. Redskins - Ohio St. HB Ezekiel Elliot 16. Cowboys - Temple OLB Hasaan Reddick 17. Colts - Miami HB Duke Johnson 18. Wildcats - Stanford HB Christian McCaffrey 19. Giants - Kansas St. WR Tyler Lockett 20. Broncos - Wake Forest CB Kevin Johnson 21. Rams - Georgia OLB Leonard Floyd 22. Pumpkins - Penn St. OT Donovan Smith 23. Patriots - Florida St. CB P.J. Williams 24. Ravens - Notre Dame DE Stephon Tuitt 25. Dolphins - Wisconsin OLB T.J. Watt 26. Hawks - Missouri Connor McGovern 27. Buccaneers - USC DE Leonard Williams 28. Raiders - Auburn DE Dee Ford 29. Jaguars - Oklahoma OLB Jordan Evans 30. Packers - Samford CB James Bradberry 31. Seahawks - Florida St. C Cameron Erving 32. Dolphins - Montana MLB Jordan Tripp --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/06/20 11:36:32 PM #203: |
Round 2 Recap
1. Chiefs - Texas DE Alex Okafor 2. Titans - Texas A&M OT Germain Ifedi 3. Panthers - West Alabama CB Malcolm Butler 4. Jets - Iowa G Brandon Scherff 5. Lions - Stanford G Joshua Garnett 6. Browns - Miami WR Allen Hurns 7. Dolphins - Missouri DE Kony Ealy 8. Bills - Michigan St. FS Montae Nicholson 9. 49ers - Central Michigan HB Thomas Rawls 10. Raiders - Michigan St. CB Trae Waynes 11. Bengals - Oklahoma WR Kenny Stills 12. Steelers - Nebraska WR Quincy Enunwa 13. Pioneers - San Jose St. G Wes Schweitzer 14. Dolphins - Florida St. DT Timmy Jernigan 15. Redskins - Boise St. OLB Kamalei Correa 16. Seahawks - Memphis CB Bobby McCain 17. Colts - Alabama MLB C.J. Mosley 18. Wildcats - Oklahoma OT Daryl Williams 19. Giants - Minnesota DT Ra'Shede Hageman 20. Broncos - Boston College OLB Matt Milano 21. Dolphins - Oregon St. CB Steven Nelson 22. Pumpkins - Indiana HB Tevin Coleman 23. Redskins - North Dakota St. OT Joe Haeg 24. Ravens - San Diego St. SS Damontae Kazee 25. Vikings - UCLA G Caleb Benenoch 26. Hawks - Auburn OLB Carl Lawson 27. Buccaneers - Eastern Illinois OLB Kamu Grugier-Hill 28. Raiders - Wake Forest WR Michael Campanaro 29. Pioneers - Ohio St. SS Vonn Bell 30. Packers - Pittsburgh OT T.J. Clemmings 31. Seahawks - Wisconsin MLB Joe Schobert 32. Dolphins - William & Mary OLB J.J. Krause --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/06/20 11:38:12 PM #204: |
NFL Draft Order
1. Chiefs 2. Titans 3. Panthers 4. Jets 5. Lions 6. Browns 7. Bears 8. Bills 9. 49ers 10. Lightning 11. Bengals 12. Steelers 13. Pioneers 14. Falcons 15. Redskins 16. Seahawks 17. Colts 18. Wildcats 19. Giants 20. Broncos 21. Rams 22. Pumpkins 23. Patriots 24. Ravens 25. Vikings 26. Hawks 27. Buccaneers 28. Raiders 29. Jaguars 30. Packers 31. Cowboys 32. Dolphins Bears own Pioneers 7th Broncos own Giants 3rd Browns own Dolphins 5th Cowboys own Seahawks 5th Dolphins own Vikings 3rd, Bears 3rd + 5th, Falcons 3rd + 5th, Broncos 3rd Falcons own Dolphins 6th Jaguars own Steelers 3rd Pioneers own Bears 7th Seahawks own Cowboys 4th Steelers own Dolphins 3rd --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/06/20 11:38:44 PM #205: |
Rounds 3 and 4 are slated to begin between 2-3 PM ET tomorrow
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Ranlom 03/07/20 6:55:41 AM #206: |
The last few picks of round 1 after Dee Ford was taken were intense, i was on pins and needles the whole time. I'll have to send the Dolphins a fruit basket for going DE a few picks later.
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KCF0107 03/07/20 1:42:52 PM #207: |
Just a heads up that I will not be in the spreadsheet in the early portion of the range that I gave. I hope to begin no later than 2:30 ET
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KCF0107 03/07/20 4:37:16 PM #208: |
Round 3 Recap
1. Chiefs - Indiana OT Jason Spriggs 2. Steelers - Alabama TE O.J. Howard 3. Panthers - Mississipi St. FB Malcolm Johnson 4. Jets - Arkansas TE Hunter Henry 5. Lions - Nebraska HB Ameer Abdullah 6. Browns - Florida St. OLB Kris Perry 7. Dolphins - Vanderbilt OT Will Holden 8. Bills - Delaware DT Zach Kerr 9. 49ers - Michigan St. CB Tony Lippett 10. Lightning - Miami TE David Njoku 11. Bengals - USC QB Cody Kessler 12. Jaguars - Baylor G Spencer Drango 13. Pioneers - Utah CB Eric Rowe 14. Dolphins - Oregon St. G Isaac Seumalo 15. Redskins - USC CB Josh Shaw 16. Seahawks - Florida St. DE Ray Taylor 17. Colts - LSU G Vadal Alexander 18. Wildcats - Oregon CB Bobby Gooden 19. Broncos - LSU DT Ego Ferguson 20. Dolphins - UConn DT Shamar Stephen 21. Rams - LSU MLB Kevin Minter 22. Pumpkins - South Carolina OT Corey Robinson 23. Patriots - Washington HB Bishop Sankey 24. Ravens - Indiana QB Nate Sudfeld 25. Dolphins - Illinois SS Clayton Fejedelem 26. Hawks - Clemson WR Martavis Bryant 27. Buccaneers - Duke G Lucas Patrick 28. Raiders - UCLA QB Leonard Bush 29. Jaguars - Texas A&M SS Justin Evans 30. Packers - Utah G Jeremiah Poutasi 31. Cowboys - N.C. St. SS Josh Jones 32. Steelers - Ohio St. C Pat Elflein --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/07/20 4:46:21 PM #209: |
Round 4 Recap
1. Chiefs - Miami OLB Steve Smith 2. Titans - Virginia Tech CB Martin Terry 3. Panthers - Oregon G Anthony McGrady 4. Jets - San Diego St. MLB Darryl Miller 5. Lions - Texas OLB Pete Hill 6. Browns - Wyoming C Chase Roullier 7. Bears - Grambling St. G Pierre Newton 8. Bills - Kansas G Natrone Burnett 9. 49ers - Alabama St. OLB Byron Jackson 10. Lightning - Henderson St. G Isaiah Larsen 11. Bengals - Syracuse CB Steve O'Neal 12. Steelers - Tennessee QB Joshua Dobbs 13. Pioneers - LSU C Ethan Pocic 14. Falcons - Coastal Carolina WR Matt Hazel 15. Redskins - Michigan C Graham Glasglow 16. Seahawks - Ohio St. WR Philly Brown 17. Colts - Louisville QB Trevor Marsh 18. Wildcats - Rutgers TE Tyler Kroft 19. Giants - UTEP C Timmy Norris 20. Broncos - Boise St. SS Darwin Thompson 21. Rams - Alabama HB T.J. Yeldon 22. Pumpkins - Florida CB Matt Mitchell 23. Patriots - Texas Southern DE Cameron Franklin 24. Ravens - USC OT Chad Wheeler 25. Vikings - Nebraska C Spencer Long 26. Hawks - Mississippi St. C Blake Vandiver 27. Buccaneers - Auburn HB Cameron Artis-Payne 28. Raiders - Texas Tech DT David Black 29. Jaguars - Arizona DE Jerry Nakfoor 30. Packers - LSU C Pierre Vuong 31. Seahawks - Utah CB Greg Hennings 32. Dolphins - Clemson K Chandler Catanzaro --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/07/20 4:48:21 PM #210: |
NFL Draft Order
1. Chiefs 2. Titans 3. Panthers 4. Jets 5. Lions 6. Browns 7. Bears 8. Bills 9. 49ers 10. Lightning 11. Bengals 12. Steelers 13. Pioneers 14. Falcons 15. Redskins 16. Seahawks 17. Colts 18. Wildcats 19. Giants 20. Broncos 21. Rams 22. Pumpkins 23. Patriots 24. Ravens 25. Vikings 26. Hawks 27. Buccaneers 28. Raiders 29. Jaguars 30. Packers 31. Cowboys 32. Dolphins Bears own Pioneers 7th Browns own Dolphins 5th Cowboys own Seahawks 5th Dolphins own Bears 5th, Falcons 5th Falcons own Dolphins 6th Pioneers own Bears 7th Steelers own Titans 5th Titans own Steelers 6th Rounds 5-7 will begin between 2-3 PM ET tomorrow --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/07/20 4:49:43 PM #211: |
To Do:
- Post-draft stuff (Madden grades, first pick not best pick, three selections in each round I liked, one regret first three rounds, favorite draft classes) - Clean up inbox, again - Spend more time into my project - Add Pioneers finances to sheet - Do my Top 5 players at each position --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 1:23:43 PM #212: |
Like yesterday, it will probably be closer to 2:30 ET when we begin
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Emeraldegg 03/08/20 6:59:50 PM #213: |
Panthers trading block update:
Vilma is no longer for trade I am looking to move MLB Rob Thomas and/or CB Trent Gunn, for a similar tier C who would be making under 920k this year after guarantees are paid. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 7:09:01 PM #214: |
Round 5 Recap
1. Chiefs - Arkansas TE A.J. Derby 2. Steelers - Colorado FB Travor Simmons 3. Panthers - Kentucky OLB Antonio Paige 4. Jets - L.A. Tech QB Jeff Driskel 5. Lions - Boston College DE Larry Davis 6. Browns - Oregon St. QB Sean Mannion 7. Dolphins - BYU FS Corwin Kato 8. Patriots - Florida FS Dexter Sullivan 9. 49ers - Tennessee OT Derrick Gore 10. Lightning - MLB London Connell 11. Bengals - Kentucky DT Oge Burton 12. Steelers - Texas A&M OLB Kory Schroeder 13. Pioneers - Michigan OLB Reginald Stump 14. Dolphins - Colorado St. QB Garrett Grayson 15. Redskins - Baylor OT Jack Browning 16. Cowboys - Texas A&M HB Luther Singletary 17. Colts - Florida HB Kevin Simmons 18. Wildcats - Florida St. SS Montae Mackey 19. Giants - Colorado DT Richard Miller 20. Broncos - Notre Dame CB Allen Gamble 21. Rams - North Carolina CB Duane Lloyd 22. Pumpkins - Miami of Ohio OLB Ronnie Kozlowski 23. Patriots - Oklahoma OT Spencer Jordan 24. Ravens - Vanderbilt FS Andy McMillan 25. Vikings - South Carolina G Darnay Caulley 26. Hawks - Washington OT Jim Truman 27. Buccaneers - Purdue SS Andre Cobb 28. Raiders - Notre Dame DE Charles Luhr 29. Jaguars - Virginia Tech WR Dan Browning 30. Packers - Montana St. TE Pete Gonzalez 31. Cowboys - Troy WR Rory Henderson 32. Browns - Ohio St. CB Damien Nichols --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 7:19:19 PM #215: |
Round 6 Recap
1. Chiefs - Colorado QB Wally McGee 2. Titans - Nicholls St. HB Jonathan King 3. Panthers - Michigan St. FB Craig Moss 4. Jets - Miami HB Mike James 5. Lions - California TE Clay Hales 6. Browns - Texas A&M G Bruce Simms 7. Bears - San Diego St. MLB David Smith 8. Bills - Texas Souther CB Mark Evans 9. 49ers - William & Mary DE Irving Carter 10. Lightning - Michigan SS Dale King 11. Bengals - Cornell CB Jackie Frazier 12. Titans - East Carolina FS Devin Wilcox 13. Pioneers - Utah DT Mo Costanza 14. Falcons - Auburn FB Dennis Sabbatini 15. Redskins - California DE Anquan Wyatt 16. Seahawks - Baylor G Rocky Cooper 17. Colts - Wyoming WR Robert Herron 18. Wildcats - Florida WR Gerald Styles 19. Giants - North Carolina WR Lester Shades 20. Broncos - UCLA WR Lennox Floyd 21. Rams - North Carolina SS Skip McGrath 22. Pumpkins - Northeastern DT Sedrick Barton 23. Patriots - Ohio St. FB Gabe Reid 24. Ravens - Penn St. FB Ivan Galloway 25. Vikings - Clemson OLB Deion Potter 26. Hawks - Southeast Missouri St. DE Jim Walker 27. Buccaneers - Texas A&M OT Terrell Walker 28. Raiders - Boise St. OLB Jake Warner 29. Jaguars - Rensselaer K Andrew Franks 30. Packers - Michigan OT Keenan Evans 31. Cowboys - Arizona MLB Byron Lott 32. Falcons - Georgia HB Antonio Pederson --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 7:51:41 PM #216: |
Round 7 Recap
1. Chiefs - Iowa FB Dave Holt 2. Titans - Minnesota DT Anthony Gooden 3. Panthers - California DT Michael Thomas 4. Jets - BYU SS Andy Nelson 5. Lions - Buffalo DT Jay Flowers 6. Browns - South Dakota St. DE Isaac Minter 7. Pioneers - USC MLB Kyle Kato 8. Patriots - Arkansas G Tyrone Spence 9. 49ers - UCLA G Brian Tillman 10. Lightning - Ohio St. FS Clay Strickland 11. Bengals - Clemson OT Isaac Johnson 12. Steelers - Maryland DT Greg Jackson 13. Bears - Western Illinois G Dee Wicks 14. Falcons - Butler OT Jamel Heyward 15. Redskins - Virginia Tech TE Conrad Green 16. Seahawks - Houston DE William Watson 17. Colts - Miami P Justin Vogel 18. Wildcats - Fresno St. OT Andrew Rhodes 19. Giants - Georgia DE Trace Crockett 20. Broncos - Arkansas St. DE Darryl Curtis 21. Rams - Ole Miss WR Adam Preston 22. Pumpkins - Notre Dame WR Jayson Bush 23. Bills - LSU WR Anthony Hilliard 24. Ravens - North Carolina OLB John Newberry 25. Vikings - Wake Forest DE Brian Wheaton 26. Hawks - Stanford MLB Keith Robinson 27. Buccaneers - Minnesota P Peter Mortell 28. Raiders - Missouri TE Thomas Carty 29. Jaguars - Wisconsin FS Elvis Lane 30. Packers - Fresno St. WR Byron Lawrence 31. Cowboys - Pittsburgh C Jorge Agnew 32. Dolphins - California C Chad Van Dyke --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MegamanX 03/08/20 8:02:43 PM #217: |
How many of these 5th thru 7th rd players have actually developed. single digits?
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KCF0107 03/08/20 8:03:38 PM #218: |
Madden Draft Grades
The following is a list of all user teams ordered by the letter grade given to them and then alphabetically. Take little stock in how you are graded. These are not at all an indicator of the ratings to expect from your rookies nor future performance. They are essentially arbitrary. All AI teams are given A grades. A Lions A- Browns 49ers Patriots B+ Chiefs Colts Packers Steelers Wildcats B Bills Giants Jaguars Panthers Pioneers Pumpkins Redskins B- Buccaneers C Bears Falcons Titans --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 8:04:44 PM #219: |
MegamanX posted...
How many of these 5th thru 7th rd players have actually developed. single digits? Like 2-3 drafts ago, I went through the Day 3 draft spots and named notable players taken at each spot. It is way north of single digits. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 8:12:24 PM #220: |
In addition, Madden also mentions when they deem a team's first pick was not their best pick. Again, this is an arbitrary distinction and not based on anything of importance. Still, useless information can be interesting!
Bears First Pick: G Pierre Newton Best Pick: MLB David Smith Bengals First Pick: OLB Matthew Judon Best Pick: QB Cody Kessler Packers First Pick: CB James Bradberry Best Pick: OT T.J. Clemmings Patriots First Pick: CB P.J. Williams Best Pick: HB Bishop Sankey Pioneers First Pick: WR Stefon Diggs Best Pick: CB Eric Rowe Seahawks First Pick: C Cameron Erving Best Pick: CB Bobby McCain Titans First Pick: WR Mike Evans Best Pick: OT Germain Ifedi --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 8:13:43 PM #221: |
To Do:
- Officially begin rookie signing period - Post-draft stuff (three selections in each round I liked, one regret first three rounds, favorite overall draft classes) - Clean up inbox, again - Spend more time into my project - Add Pioneers finances to sheet - Update team financial sheet for already-signed rookies - Do my Top 5 players at each position --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/08/20 8:14:30 PM #222: |
Patriots release the following players:
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KCF0107 03/08/20 11:04:35 PM #223: |
KCF0107 posted...
26. Hawks - Missouri Connor McGovern KCF0107 posted... 9. 49ers - UCLA G Brian Tillman Just a few public corrections I would like to make are McGovern is a G and Tillman is actually a MLB. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/09/20 1:44:28 AM #224: |
Signing Draft Picks
Quite a few teams have done it already, but now's the time to get those draftees' signatures and have them suit up for your squad. It is essentially just like signing your own free agents, but you don't have to worry about holdouts/franchise tags, and you typically have far fewer players to sign. There are a few things you need to keep in mind as you read your PM. One, you will not know the overall ratings until they are signed. That is an in-game mechanic and not something by my design. Two, the desired deals for each player, in terms of length, is based on where they were taken. It is as follows: Top 5 - Six years 6-10 - Five years 11-32 - Four years 2nd-4th rounds - Three years (will be eligible for RFA) 5th-7th rounds - One year Once again, you do not have to offer them their exact deals and can change their length, but I advise you to sign them to the length that they ask for because if you change the length, they might ask for considerably more money. The deadline to sign your rookies will be March 16th at 6 PM ET. Should you idle, I will sign all your rookies to the deals that they are asking for (such a severe punishment I know). If you have roster space issues, then I will prioritize players who will fill roster holes and then in descending order of when they were selected until your roster is filled. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShatteredElysium 03/09/20 6:17:05 PM #225: |
MegamanX posted...
How many of these 5th thru 7th rd players have actually developed. single digits? Depends on your definition of developed. Most of them will increase in OVR but do you mean guys who significantly improve? Ones who develop into starters? It's hard for 5th to 7th rounders to develop purely because of lack of play time but late round picks who actually see the field do develop. Quick glance over the last 3 drafts (2014 draft is based off projections, I didn't write down draft positions for that one. 2015/16 are based off actual draft position) 5th rounders C Russell Bodine 75 > 82 (2014) G Luke Bowanko 75 > 80 (2014) P Jacob Schum 74 > 87 (2014) G Arie Kouandjio 74 > 78 (2015) MLB Joey Kaufman 71 > 81 (2015) WR Dennis Robinson 73 > 78 (2015) SS Quentin White 74 > 77 (2016) 6th rounders WR Chris Hogan 75 > 81 (2014) SS James Sanford 75 > 80 (2014) G Mark Glowinski 74 > 80 (2015) WR Robert Woods 76 > 82 (2015) WR Chauncey Sharper 72 > 77 (2015) WR Dennis Robinson 73 > 78 (2015) OLB Neil Parker 72 > 78 (2016) OLB WIllie Walls 71 > 75 (2016) TE Jace Amaro 74 > 78 (2016) MLB Chad Carpenter 70 > 74 (2016) C Dimitrius Massey 70 > 76 (2016) 7th rounders FS Shelton Kelly 70 > 75 (2014 - but he did get to 77 after his rookie year) SS Jermaine O'Leske 71 > 77 (2014) MLB Alvin Williams 65 > 79 (2015 - so +14 in 2 seasons) TE Josh Hill 71 > 76 (2015) MLB Raymond Els 68 > 71 (2016) WR Alex Erickson 71 > 74 (2016) I only have draft data for the last 4 drafts so that's all I can give you. I do know that Stephen Tulloch was a 7th rounder and he's my starting OLB who has been amazing since he got the starting gig 3 seasons ago (280 Tackles, 14 Sacks, 8 FF, 6 FR, 2 INT). He's gone from 76 > 86 in the last 5 seasons despite being old (he's 33 now) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 03/10/20 5:46:55 AM #226: |
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ShatteredElysium 03/10/20 7:10:42 AM #227: |
Throwing it out there that TE Tate Casey (84 OVR - 30 yo) is available for trade. His contract would be reasonable (~3.2m) after I eat the dead money. In the last 7 seasons he has put up just short of 3000 yards and 13 TDs
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ShatteredElysium 03/10/20 9:20:04 AM #228: |
Also I don't know if this will be part of KCFs 'regret' picks but here is how badly I bumbled the Steelers draft by trying to be smart (it did not work out well)
I traded a future 2nd, 6th and future 7th for a 3rd, 5th and future 6th I used the 3rd to draft TE O.J. Howard as he was the top TE in the draft and typically they have come out 78-80 and done well. He came out as a 76. I used the 5th to draft FB Simmons as he was the first 'blocking' FB we have seen since we switched non imported classes. His blocking rating is the 3rd worst in the league for FBs Both were positions of excess (i.e. unnecessary) and without them I'd be under cap with space to fill my final hole. I am now slightly over cap and have to make a cut/trade to fill that hole. So in summary. Steelers gave up a future 2nd (plus dead money) to draft a downgrade at TE and a FB who will likely never see the field. Maybe Howard will flourish and make it worth it down the line but right now it looks like a badly fumbled gamble ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/10/20 1:32:25 PM #229: |
Panthers cut QB Matt Ryan and RG David Stewart
Wildcats cut RT Seantreal Henderson, ROLB Demario Davis, and SS Joe Goosby --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SockoDeus 03/11/20 11:05:30 AM #230: |
When reworking a contract, what happens to the remaining signing bonus?
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ShatteredElysium 03/11/20 11:09:10 AM #231: |
Carries forward to the new deal I believe. That's how it works on holdouts at least
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KCF0107 03/11/20 5:13:16 PM #232: |
KCF's Favorite Picks
I'm going to go through each round of the NFL Draft and highlight my three favorite picks and explain why. For the most part, I look in the early rounds for perfect team fits based on historical production, a visible succession plan to starting job (or immediate starter), players who might be the missing piece to the puzzle, and selections that just make me think, "That guy's going to have a long, productive career somewhere." For the later rounds, I look for players who most likely have a chance of sticking around for a long-ish career for a myriad of reasons. While I do know some of the rookie ratings due to user signings, ratings were not a factor in my analysis nor were players dropping further than expected draft slot. In addition, I will probably list an honorable mention or two and most importantly, a regret pick. What I mean by a regret pick is someone that I believe may have just made a mistake and went in the wrong direction. I will limit myself to just one per round and only for the first three rounds because honestly how much can you really regret in the sixth round? I will try and limit picks that I made myself, but there will be a few. I will refrain from choosing any Pioneers picks. At the end of all this, I will also mention my three favorite team draft classes. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 5:14:39 PM #233: |
First Round
Bills OT Garett Bolles (8th overall) - I'm not going to do the math again, but the Bills OL last season had the worst block:sack ratio in our league's history. It was not simply due to strategy either because War and the Aaron Rodgers-era Browns ran a similar strategy, and the OL performed nowhere near what the Bills managed to do. The Bills were considering going in other directions that would do nothing to solve their core problems, so like last season when I highlighted the Chiefs changing directions from CB to DT, I want to highlight the Bills finally putting a 1st rounder toward the OL. Now they should still going after multiple OL in free agency, but this move puts them in the right direction away from last season's disaster. Redskins HB Ezekiel Elliot (15th overall) - We had four HBs go in a span of five picks in the first round, and it was Elliot who I believed landed in the perfect destination. With Pro Bowl talents at QB, WR, and TE, Elliot's pure running capabilities are what this team truly needs. The OL is a little bit in flux, but with users often shying away from OL in free agency, Washington will definitely land some quality interior OL to bring this offense to the next level. Elliot is my post-draft pick for Offensive Rookie of the Year, and I think he has the highest odds for becoming a future MVP in the league. Broncos CB Kevin Johnson (20th overall) - Arguably the best defensive team in the league, they've had a revolving door of CBs outside of Phillip Buchanon. He's been gone for a few seasons now, but they've been putting serious resources at the positions the past two seasons. With great defensive pieces in front and behind them, Johnson and other CBs could really start to developmentally take off this season. Honorable Mentions Lightning DT Aaron Donald (10th overall) Rams OLB Leonard Floyd (21st overall) Regret Pick - Packers selecting CB James Bradberry over C Cameron Erving or Gs Brandon Scherff and Joshua Garnett I'm sure Bradberry will be a fine player. That isn't the concern here. The issue is that the Packers had the most difficult offseason to navigate financially, and instead of following the path they were on, they veered off-course. Not only did they miss out on a chance to secure their RG spot for the present and future, but for a team that was on the cusp of making the Super Bowl, they will have to make several roster decisions to either significantly weaken their SB odds this season or put themselves in a big financial hole next season. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 5:45:40 PM #234: |
2nd Round
Jets G Brandon Scherff (36th overall) - I want to reiterate that Scherff likely being a highly-rated rookie was not a factor here. The Jets, a prime bounceback candidate, are somewhat weak on the OL after the retirement of RT Kareem McKenzie. What they don't have in high-end talent across the board, they are seemingly making up for it with a lot of depth. OL, more than any other area, needs quality depth, and the Jets, who still will be getting at least OT in free agency, appear to be in as good of shape as any in the AFC in OL depth. As an added bonus, RG Jake Grove at 37 years old is seeing his career wind down, so Scherff will be in line to be his heir. Raiders CB Trae Waynes (42nd overall) - If there was any concern that the Raiders D was a pretender after their surprise AFC title game run in S11, last season put that baseless theory to rest. The Raiders have been great at developing their young LBs and DBs, and Waynes has a chance to unseat 32-year-old DRC as the #2 CB to play in front of 90+ safeties in Reshad Jones and Kam Chancellor. They got this with the pick the Lightning gave them to sign backup QB Blake Bortles who had no future in Oakland after Andy Dalton's QB of the Year finalist season. The SB window for this Raiders team is just getting longer. Seahawks MLB Joe Schobert (63rd overall) - I almost went with C.J. Mosley here given how reliable that Colts defense and Mosley has a higher chance to start as a rookie, but I see Schobert as the poster child of the excellent, mutually benefical AI draft day trade between the Seahawks and Cowboys. Schobert was the second pick among the haul Seattle received for trading down and third overall for the team, but he might end up being the best of them all. Honorable Mentions Panthers CB Malcolm Butler (35th overall) Colts MLB C.J. Mosley (49th overall) Regret Pick - 49ers selecting HB Thomas Rawls over OLB Kamalei Correa I thought incumbent McKinnon had a higher rating, but he did have a more efficient rookie season than most HBs at his rating. While I understand the value since Rawls had a first round grade attached to him, I haven't been shy about my strong feelings for the 49ers grabbing an OLB early. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 5:48:32 PM #235: |
3rd Round
Jets TE Hunter Henry (68th overall) - The Jets have had the same 1-2 punch at TE for seemingly the past 10 seasons, but with Teyo Johnson retired and Tim Day set to join him soon, the Jets and their TE friendly offense should see quick dividends and great development out of their rookie TE if he emerges out of the preseason as the starter. Broncos DT Ego Ferguson (83rd overall) - I have already mentioned that the Broncos defense is excellent, and Ferguson gets to play as a rotational DT with four 90+ DL, including both starting DTs being in their 30s. This is how you draft well for the future in the middle rounds. Dolphins SS Clayton Fjedelem (89th overall) - The Dolphins might be known as an OL factory given the quantity players being taken in during RFA, but if you go by quality, they are a SS factory. They've had five major players at the position. Three have won DB of the Year (Shaun Williams, Michael Huff, and Jaquiski Tartt), one has been the starter for three SB-winning teams (Antoine Bethea), and the other is likely the only B8NFLL DB to have multiple INTs and FFs+FRs in each of their first five seasons (Isa Abdul-Quudus). One or both of Bethea and Tartt will be leaving in this upcoming offseason, and while he won't be seeing the field much this season if injuries don't happen, he has a good chance of being the next great Dolphin SS. Honorable Mentions Lions HB Ameer Abdullah (69th overall) Jaguars SS Justin Evans (93rd overall) Regret Pick - Cowboys selecting SS Josh Jones over an OL The Cowboys are going to be hard-capped next season, and 3/5 of their OL will be free agents. I don't know if they will be able to re-sign any of them. They have very few waiting in the wings, so now would have been a prime opportunity to have more players in the fold to develop and take over the reins next season. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 6:01:44 PM #236: |
4th Round
Lions OLB Pete Hill (101st overall) - The Lions have been depressingly awful on defense since trading likely future Hall of Famer DT Claude Wroten in what is on a short list of the worst trades in B8NFLL history. Incumbent LOLB Junior Galette is a pretty mediocre OLB outside of his absurd 6 FRs last season, so it isn't an arduous path for Hill to become the starter. Maybe Hill can become what Avery Williamson is to the Wildcats. 49ers OLB Byron Jackson (105th overall) - The 49ers have the cap space to go after Connor Barwin or Tom Burton if they wish, but as of right now, neither are 49ers, so given what is known at this point, it appears that the LOLB spot will be occupied by Shazier or Jackson this season. Given how great 49ers LBs have historically been, getting a potential starter in the 4th round is better than anyone can realistically expect. Bengals CB Steve O'Neal (107th overall) - Now the Bengals secondary isn't in good shape, but he could be a starter as a 4th round pick on an average defense. That's not a bad place to begin a career! Honorable Mentions Jets MLB Darryl Miller (100th overall) Wildcats TE Tyler Kroft (114th overall) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 6:13:30 PM #237: |
5th Round
Wildcats SS Montae Mackey (146th overall) - The Wildcats defense is still a work in progress, and SS is still a position they have yet to solve. Thanks to special teams and frequent sub-packages, backup SSs get a lot of action, so maybe Mackey will ultimately be the answer. Given the Wildcats do not have the cap space currently to go for a free agent upgrade, it isn't out of the question that Mackey becomes the starter. Vikings G Darnay Caulley (153rd overall) - With a scrambling QB and one of the league's best HBs, the Vikings OL is going to get a lot of work in this season. The Vikings, will only have 4 Gs on the roster if they sign all of their rookies, and one is a 37-year-old who missed five games last season. There always seems to be one Day 3 OL taken that eventually becomes a long-time starter somewhere in the league. Caulley is as good of a bet as any to be that guy from this draft. Cowboys WR Rory Henderson (159th overall) - The Cowboys aren't a prolific passing team, but they've have a surprisingly good history of developing Day 3 WRs. Given their cap space woes for the near future, it is possible Henderson could emerge as a future slot receiver, with a very remote chance of being a future starter. Honorable Mentions Bengals DT Oge Burton (139th overall) Packers TE Pete Gonzalez (158th overall) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 6:28:58 PM #238: |
6th Round
Bears MLB David Smith (167th overall) - There's a long history of Day 3 MLBs becoming fixtures in the league. To name a few, Bryan Vinson was a 6th rounder of the 49ers. John Abbate was a 7th rounder of the Hawks, and Clifton Thompson a 5th rounder of the Packers. If David Smith is to be included among those names, it won't be as a Bear, but the path will begin here. Lightning SS Dale King (170th overall) - It's possible he will be buried on the depth chart if the Lightning go after someone in free agency, but on a very fluid roster with a starting SS whose play and development hasn't guaranteed himself a new contract beyond this season, King has a chance of being the starter come next season. Seahawks G Rocky Cooper (176th overall) - Currently penciled in as the starting LG, Josh White was a former 5th round pick. Top free agent Gs Grayling Love and David Stewart were former mid-round picks of the Seahawks (Stewart was a fantasy draft pick, but he was in the low-70s as a rookie, so I'm using him as an example anyway!). The Seahawks have a pretty good history of developing mid-round Gs. With an OL full of injury issues and many veterans in their final seasons, Cooper can become another in a long-line of Seahawk-developed Gs. Honorable Mentions Jets HB Mike James (164th overall) Cowboys MLB Byron Lott (191st overall) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 6:40:14 PM #239: |
7th Round
Lions DT Jay Flowers (197th overall) - Even though the Lions D is still trying to find out the right combination of players and strategy to approach league average levels, Flowers has a chance to fight for the #3 DT job, so good for him. Rams WR Adam Preston (213th overall) - There is a trade in the works for the Rams to acquire a starting WR, but regardless, the Rams have the thinnest WR depth. With QB Ryan Tannehill having a bounceback season, and fifth round rookie Barron Ogden having a very impressive rookie season as the #4 WR, Preston landed in a great place to keep his NFL dreams alive. Cowboys C Jorge Agnew (223rd overall) - Back in our first draft in S2, the second-to-last pick of the draft was C Nick Mangold who has 90 starts in 11 seasons with the Dolphins and Browns. I have already mentioned the Cowboys financial woes, impending OL free agents, and lack of players waiting in the wings. Could their 7th rounder be their future starter in the middle? Anything is possible, but at the very least, he could be one of the few players taken in the round to get a second contract and still be in the league in two seasons. Honorable Mentions Panthers DT Michael Thomas (195th overall) Broncos DE Darryl Curtis (212th overall) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 7:23:39 PM #240: |
Favorite Three Draft Classes
Detroit Lions QB Jared Goff (5th) G Joshua Garnett (37th) HB Ameer Abdullah (69th) OLB Pete Hill (101st) DE Larry Davis (133rd) TE Clay Hales (165th) DT Jay Flowers (197th) In a division where two teams had a combined one pick in the first three rounds (Bears and Vikings), and the other had a disappointing one (Packers), the Lions did an excellent job to try and get out of this rebuild phase. You have the starting QB who won't be the injury-prone, mediocre E.J. Manuel, much-needed bodies on the interior OL and backfield, a potential starter at OLB, and a late round DT who could have a long career. It may not scream one of the best, and the Lions are probably still at least a season away from being playoff contenders, but I think this is the start of a significantly better Lions team than those we have seen in recent seasons. Miami Dolphins OLB T.J. Watt (25th) MLB Jordan Tripp (32nd) DE Kony Ealy (39th) DT Timmy Jernigan (46th) CB Steven Nelson (53rd) OLB J.J. Krause (64th) OT Will Holden (71st) G Isaac Seumalo (78th) DT Shamar Stephen (84th) SS Clayton Fejedelem (89th) K Chandler Catanzaro (128th) FS Corwin Kato (135th) QB Garrett Grayson (142nd) C Chad Van Dyke (224th) That's one way to replenish a defense that saw two retire (OLBs D.J. Williams and Daryl Smith), two depart in free agency (DT Ndamukong Suh and MLB Paul Worrilow), and a top reserve signed away in RFA (DE Cassius Marsh). The sheer volume of picks and where they were located makes it almost impossible not to include them on this list, but given where they spent those picks, they were the most obvious candidate to include. They could have as many as three rookie starters, and many other top reserves and potential future starters in Miami or somewhere else. They also spent their second ever draft pick on a QB, and seeing how that first one turned out, Grayson is probably going to be something special, even if it is just an ace clipboard holder. New York Jets CB Jalen Ramsey (4th) G Brandon Scherff (36th) TE Hunter Henry (68th) MLB Darryl Miller (100th) QB Jeff Driskel (132nd) HB Mike James (164th) SS Andy Nelson (196th) After uncharacteristically finding themselves in the Top 5, the Jets made the most of this opportunity. Ramsey is an instant starter in a fantastic secondary. Henry and Miller are potential Week 1 starters. Scherff is another piece to a deep OL and should become the RG once incumbent Grove retires. Driskel could end up being the backup QB after the Jets traded Mariota. James may have the best odds out of anybody in our history to become the first HB taken in the 6th or later to become a starter. Nelson is the backup at SS, which means he will see a ton of action. Every player selected was given the opportunity to craft a long career in this league, with the Jets even. Honorable Mentions Dallas Cowboys Denver Broncos Indianapolis Colts --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/11/20 7:44:54 PM #241: |
AI trade
Rams receive: WR Martin Nance (90 overall, 35 years old) Giants receive: HB Ryan Matthews (84 overall, 28 years old) FS Justin Simmons (76 overall, 24 years old) QB Jay Fernandez (73 overall, 25 years old) Giants incur a $1.26 mil cap penalty next season to turn an $8.85 mil cap hit into $4.13 mil Rams incur incur a $1.24 mil cap penalty next season, but they have AI cap space, so this is nothing. With Roy Williams retiring and Michael Crabtree traded, the Rams had a big need at WR and got a better one than they could get in free agency. The Giants had substantial cap issues. Moving on from Nance also allows them to start rookie Tyler Lockett. Matthews gives them a very capable backup HB, and Simmons is coming off of a rookie season where he had 1 sack, 1 FF, and 2 FRs. Fernandez is roster filler as this also plugs the final two holes on the Giants roster. Giants also release DE Trace Crockett and CB Demetrice Morley as a result of this trade. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/12/20 1:06:47 AM #242: |
To Do:
- Add draft class to draft notebook - Clean up inbox, again - Spend more time into my project - Do my Top 5 players at each position --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 03/12/20 1:31:37 AM #243: |
I have also been cleaning out my outbox for about half an hour now, and I finally dipped below 1000.
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KCF0107 03/12/20 2:16:41 AM #244: |
I regret not regularly taking care of my inbox/outbox. I think that I have deleted over 2000 items now.
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TheKnightOfNee 03/14/20 1:07:08 AM #245: |
bumpo
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MysteriousStan 03/16/20 7:19:44 AM #246: |
Less than 12 hours
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ShatteredElysium 03/17/20 8:57:49 AM #247: |
So here's how my draft went
1st - OT DJ Humphries - 83 2nd - WR Quincy Enunwa - 77 3rd - TE O.J. Howard - 76 3rd - C Pat Elflein - 76 4th - QB Joshua Dobbs - 74 5th - FB Trevor Simmons - 68 5th - OLB Kory Schroeder - 71 7th - DT Greg Jackson - 69 Here's what I probably should have done different if I had stuck to my original plan (WR, TE and FB were all draft day decisions swayed by different things) 2nd - OLB Correa (78) or MLB Mosley (78) or G Benenoch (80) 3rd - OLB Perry (77) or MLB Minter (76) or G Drango (79) or DT Ferguson (76) 5th - DE Davis (74) Or more realistically, I wouldn't have had the 3rd and 5th and would have had my 6th as I wouldn't have made the trade. My original plan had been: OT HB (pre draft trade took care of this) OLB/MLB = C/G DT = QB DE So in hindsight my original plan would have worked out better if I hadn't tried and failed to be smart. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MegamanX 03/17/20 11:15:43 AM #248: |
My only pick that really mattered here was 1st and I aced it so I get an A
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ShatteredElysium 03/17/20 4:10:40 PM #249: |
Average rating by round projection (I'm throwing out FB/K/P from the equations just because)
Top 15 2017 - 82.8 2016 - 82.53 2015 - 83.6 (Top 10 not 15 that year) 2014 - 83.6 1st 2017 - 81.5 2016 - 81.07 2015 - 80.37 (inflated by Top 15 being reduced) 2014 - 81.08 1st-2nd 2017 - 80.11 2016 - 79.66 2015 - 79.77 2014 - 80 2nd 2017 - 79 2016 - 79 2015 - 78.38 2014 - 78.6 2nd-3rd 2017 - 78.44 2016 - 77.12 2015 - 77.2 2014 - 77 3rd 2017 - 76.52 2016 - 75.78 2015 - 75.9 2014 - 76.04 3rd-4th 2017 - 76.22 2016 - 75.71 2015 - 76.28 2014 - 76.87 4th 2017 - 75.73 2016 - 74.42 2015 - 75.18 2014 - 74.52 4th-5th 2017 - 74.22 2016 - 74.87 2015 - 74.77 2014 - 75.37 5th 2017 - 73.6 2016 - 73.63 2015 - 73.5 2014 - 74.04 5th-6th 2017 - 71.88 2016 - 73.5 2015 - 71.55 2014 - 72.71 6th 2017 - 71.52 2016 - 71.1 2015 - 72.35 2014 - 71.47 6th-7th 2017 - 70.55 2016 - 70.62 2015 - 71.5 2014 - 71.77 7th 2017 - 68.76 2016 - 69.26 2015 - 68.33 2014 - 69 Undrafted 2017 - 67.37 2016 - 67.33 2015 - 64 2014 - 66 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShatteredElysium 03/17/20 4:14:05 PM #250: |
I may do average ratings of where players are now at a later point but just as a quick example of what I mean. The average rating of someone with a 1st round projection (including Top 15) from the 2014 draft as of today is 87.03
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KCF0107 03/18/20 12:36:47 AM #251: |
WARNING
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