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LinkMarioSamus 02/24/20 7:18:20 AM #1: |
Just wanted to discuss this. Browsing TV Tropes, Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad strike me as especially egregious cases for big-studio films.
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NFUN 02/24/20 7:21:35 AM #2: |
Board 8 and its recurring "villain" LMS
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ffmasterjose 02/24/20 7:32:03 AM #3: |
Pfft. The plot of Superman Returns was way worse than those examples.
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HanOfTheNekos 02/24/20 7:47:26 AM #4: |
get a life get a job
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swirIdude 02/24/20 10:38:34 AM #5: |
NFUN posted...
Board 8 and its recurring "villain" LMS --- Advokaiser picked Cloud in Guru and rained on my bracket. At least I finished 20th overall! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 02/24/20 10:40:36 AM #6: |
The second sentence starts with "Browsing TVTropes".
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BlackMageJawa 02/24/20 12:43:17 PM #7: |
Dying Light.
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LeonhartFour 02/24/20 12:45:43 PM #8: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Just wanted to discuss this. Browsing TV Tropes, Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad strike me as especially egregious cases for big-studio films. Watch movies and play games rather than reading about them. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 02/24/20 1:13:18 PM #9: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Watch movies and play games rather than reading about them.you literally have a game ranking topic with writeups in progress --- Thus is our treaty written; thus is our agreement made. Thought it the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked for was given; the price is paid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/24/20 1:15:52 PM #10: |
NFUN posted...
you literally have a game ranking topic with writeups in progress and all he does is comment about how he has never played and/or has no interest in anything I've written about --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 02/24/20 1:16:29 PM #11: |
That's a pretty fair point.
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LeonhartFour 02/24/20 1:17:33 PM #12: |
I'm referring to LMS in particular who seems to play or watch very little of anything and just talks about stuff he's read on TVTropes rather than get any actual firsthand experience with any sort of media
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scarletspeed7 02/24/20 1:19:20 PM #13: |
My comment was directed at Leonhart for the record. TVTropes' avid userbase is a dangerous example of how superficial one can become in terms of digesting storytelling. In a lot of ways, it's the antithesis of understanding a narrative. By only recognizing patterns, you kind of are doomed to miss the nuance of anything.
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LinkMarioSamus 02/24/20 1:23:15 PM #14: |
That's a very good point admittedly.
With video games, I just find it hard to commit somehow. I tend to lose interest before finishing. I was inspired to make this topic by watching Aliens yesterday. Even though it's my favorite movie of all time, I feel as if Hicks, Ripley, and Newt are the only characters in the film who act remotely sensibly, though the idiocy is fairly believable so it doesn't hurt the movie much if at all. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heroic Bigpun 02/24/20 1:42:00 PM #15: |
There are way too many instances to note where the bad guy shouldve just shot the good guys when he had the chance
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Lucavi000 02/24/20 1:57:26 PM #16: |
Heroic Bigpun posted...
There are way too many instances to note where the bad guy shouldve just shot the good guys when he had the chance There are equally as many instances when the hero could have done the same thing but doesnt lol. --- "Doesn't matter, still obtainable. You were wrong, simply admit it and apologize for your ignorance and s*** attitude." - Firemage7777 to SuperZay ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 02/24/20 2:25:16 PM #17: |
I enjoy TV Tropes for the entertainment value from time to time but yeah it's not like I ever feel like I learn anything by reading it, especially for media I haven't personally consumed.
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Heroic Bigpun 02/24/20 2:29:01 PM #18: |
I seriously love TV tropes. Every time I watch a new show or a movie or play a new game, I go straight to it afterwards. I just love trivia. But yeah, reading something I didn't know before and pretending I know everything about it is a bit absurd
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Leonhart4 02/24/20 2:44:29 PM #19: |
Yeah, I enjoy the site, but I'd never read it for something I'd never seen or played.
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SSBM_Guy 02/24/20 2:48:54 PM #20: |
Yeah, TV Tropes is good for games and show that you actively engage in. The trivia is nice and its especially good at catching little bits of foreshadowing, which I really love.
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HanOfTheNekos 02/24/20 2:49:37 PM #21: |
why aren't we just treating LMS like ertyu come on guys get with the program
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CoolCly 02/24/20 2:59:34 PM #22: |
scarletspeed7 posted... My comment was directed at Leonhart for the record. TVTropes' avid userbase is a dangerous example of how superficial one can become in terms of digesting storytelling. In a lot of ways, it's the antithesis of understanding a narrative. By only recognizing patterns, you kind of are doomed to miss the nuance of anything. Great post on TV Tropes I definitely agree there's way too much reliance on "Tropes" when discussing material - I often see people point to "well this book was just another heros journey:" without actually discussing the specifics of how the book executed that to see if it did it well or in an interesting way or not. Oh it was "just" another heroes journey so it's not worth reading. I do love reading tropes and being like "oh yeah that guy was totally the Dragon" or whatever but it shouldn't decide whether you liked something or not for you.... especially if you haven't read it. It's always about how well that work executed the ideas its using. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 02/24/20 3:06:18 PM #23: |
CoolCly posted...
Great post on TV Tropes In fairness, isn't one of the pages "Tropes Are Not Bad"? --- Not to be confused with XIII_Stones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 02/24/20 3:23:41 PM #24: |
I also realized recently how John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction is a walking Idiot Ball, and how Marge Gunderson is the only competent character in Fargo. Again, neither really take away from those films (and yes I have seen them).
Also I have actually seen Suicide Squad and hated it. We could go on and on about the DCEU's failings, especially in light of ANOTHER flop, albeit one of lesser magnitude than Justice League. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 02/24/20 4:11:37 PM #25: |
... yes Vincent is completely incompetent that's the half the point of the movie
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Cavedweller2000 02/24/20 4:40:36 PM #26: |
Heroic Bigpun posted...
I seriously love TV tropes. Every time I watch a new show or a movie or play a new game, I go straight to it afterwards. I just love trivia. But yeah, reading something I didn't know before and pretending I know everything about it is a bit absurdEverything about this is true for me too --- Well done to Advokaiser for finishing 104 places above me in the 2018 CBX Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 02/24/20 5:40:01 PM #27: |
The fact that you watched Pulp Fiction and somehow came out of it not realizing Vincent is a moron leads me to have so many questions.
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NFUN 02/24/20 6:34:53 PM #28: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUbp68V3mhM
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LinkMarioSamus 02/25/20 5:01:55 AM #29: |
FFDragon posted...
The fact that you watched Pulp Fiction and somehow came out of it not realizing Vincent is a moron leads me to have so many questions. I watched the movie so long ago and never since. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 02/25/20 7:08:16 AM #30: |
Also I basically view Batman v. Superman as being almost objectively bad if it couldn't crack the billion-dollar mark at the box-office while a decently well-reviewed R-rated prestige drama about Batman's arch-nemesis could.
Early DCEU is still a trainwreck I can't look away from. Almost want to actually watch the films just to see if they're really that bad. Plus I view Man of Steel as the point where the debates around toxic fandom started, though it could just as easily be The Dark Knight Rises. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/25/20 9:26:08 AM #31: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Early DCEU is still a trainwreck I can't look away from. Almost want to actually watch the films apparently you can look away from it stop doing this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 02/25/20 10:28:17 AM #32: |
FFDragon posted...
The fact that you watched Pulp Fiction and somehow came out of it not realizing Vincent is a moron leads me to have so many questions. I was watching Silence of the Lambs and I just realized, that Hannibal guy might eat people --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwiftyDC 02/25/20 10:31:36 AM #33: |
The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
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scarletspeed7 02/25/20 10:46:16 AM #34: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Also I basically view Batman v. Superman as being almost objectively bad if it couldn't crack the billion-dollar mark at the box-office while a decently well-reviewed R-rated prestige drama about Batman's arch-nemesis could. Damn, turns out almost every movie is objectively bad. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/25/20 10:53:04 AM #35: |
LiquidOshawott posted...
I was watching Silence of the Lambs and I just realized, that Hannibal guy might eat people I was watching Spider-Man and it turns out that he believes that with great power comes great responsibility --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 02/25/20 10:53:42 AM #36: |
I was watching Daredevil, which is more than I can say for Daredevil.
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LinkMarioSamus 02/25/20 1:16:41 PM #37: |
SwiftyDC posted...
The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker. Every Star Wars movie after the original trilogy is rife with idiotic moments. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/25/20 1:17:45 PM #38: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Every Star Wars movie after the original trilogy is rife with idiotic moments. as is every LMS topic about every Star Wars movie after the original trilogy --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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imthestuntman 02/25/20 2:33:47 PM #39: |
NBIceman posted...
I enjoy TV Tropes for the entertainment value from time to time but yeah it's not like I ever feel like I learn anything by reading it, especially for media I haven't personally consumed.I agree completely. A lot of the tropes seem pretty arbitrary and not particularly useful. It's not cinema sins levels of bad, but at times seems about as insightful. --- These minor spelling errors were brought to you by an ipad having no real feedback to enable me to know when i mistype and my own laziness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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