Board 8 > Ace Attorney Trilogy Mafia Topic 2: Logic & Trick

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Hbthebattle
02/24/20 2:04:15 PM
#1:


In Trial:
1. Han
2. Chris
3. Scare
4. MZero
5. Sultan
6. Lea
7. Red
8. Puns
9. 5tar
10. Sbell
11. IGCD
12. greengravy
13. Death
14. Corrik
15. Ulti
16. Lolo
17. Crescent

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Day will end at 8PM PST on 2/25, 33 hours from now.

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Hbthebattle
02/25/20 11:02:01 PM
#2:


Crescent has been killed!

Crescent was...
You are Turner Grey, TOWN Doctor. While a skilled surgeon, you have a tendency to overwork your employees, which has led to absolute disaster in the past. You tend to not be willing to take the blame for any of these though, and come across as constantly annoyed and dismissive. Also, your belief in your ability to get the dead to conform to your desire is questionable, to say the least.

As a Doctor, during the night, you may select a player. That player will be protected from nightkills that night. You may select yourself, but only once per game.

As TOWN, you win when all threats to TOWN are eliminated.


Understands That It's Difficult To Threaten The Dead
1. Han
2. Chris
3. Scare
4. MZero
5. Sultan
6. Lea
7. Red
8. Puns
9. 5tar
10. Sbell
11. IGCD
12. greengravy
13. Corrik
14. Ulti
15. Lolo

Brought a Gun to Threaten a Dead Woman
1. Death - LD1 (Manfred von Karma, SCUM Roleblocker)
2. Crescent - KN1 (Turner Grey, TOWN Doctor)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day will end at 8PM PST, 48 Hours from now.
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Hbthebattle
02/25/20 11:03:03 PM
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Hbthebattle
02/25/20 11:03:54 PM
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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:06:03 PM
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No way that kill happened unless she breadcrumbed that. And if ur doctor why would I breadcrumb that.

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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:06:10 PM
#6:


You*

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Bossman_Coolguy
02/25/20 11:06:38 PM
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thelred II (Old English: elrd, pronounced [elrd];[n 1] c. 966 23 April 1016), known as the Unready, was King of the English from 978 to 1013 and again from 1014 until his death.

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/25/20 11:07:48 PM
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So scare.... you kept saying that you should not trust han why is that?

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Bossman_Coolguy
02/25/20 11:08:32 PM
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"If you can't afford your medicine, Astra Zeneca may be able to help." I've had a lot of time to digest and actually properly read through the games, so here are some day 1 analysis (and also post-flip, still day 1 whatever).

Anyway Death being plastered by Chris was actually super hilarious. I've never been able to read Death but now that Astra Zenaca helped, I'm pretty pleased by the insurance assistance. You know this sounded funnier in my head. Like, I didn't have time to really digest all that much in the moment (day ended like...not even before I got outta work :(), but Death like...killed himself. He didn't even claim the right name for crying out loud. He was like a Phoenix Wright villain, like that Manfred von Karma guy, undergoing a breakdown.

I think by and large everyone that was posting said, "yeah, let's lynch Death." But consider, who expects the day to be ended that fast? I suspect that there was scum posting saying "yeah he sucks" because as it went on longer and Death kept digging a hole, voicing dissent is going to land you in hot water. So I can see it being a keen strategy to say "oh yeah he sucks", not vote him, and then like -- not do it? You hope the tides change. Maybe Death claims something and people back off, etc?

IGCD is scum here for hedging until the end. If he was alright with the "yolo" lynch...why not vote hours prior (he did speak very early about wanting the lynch -- off the top of my head, it'sabout with 4/5 voters?)? If you're going to want the yolo, you'd try to influence it earlier yeah? Ya know, like, before the lynch was set in stone. I feel like he always claims he's bad, and does stupid stuff (IIRC I had to modkill him for...something weird, sorry for the bad memories) -- but this is calculated.
<b>##vote: igcd</b>

moving on.

The other attitudes of the players (these are impersonations):

han - "he sucks, 'it can't be helped', by the way i am a n0 prostitute, my name is hand of the neckos"
lolo - "please don't end day! i wanna help"
5tar - "i don't like death but here's some other content"
ulti - n/a
red - n/a
mzero - n/a
scare - n/a

so basically, 4 people n/a there. They weren't there, or just ended the day. Scare ended the day, but I don't really know his thoughts on Death; unless I missed it he never mentioned it. Just talked about Han. So yeah, can't conclude much about those 5 players. And before you say, "he ended day!" uh well I'm pretty sure he always kills the round if he can. I can see the late opinion changing on lynching death but not following through by just not wanting to end day. Which...is fine I guess.

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Conversely, the only player consistently <i>against</i> the lynch is SBell. I do think this speaks well to him simply because cheerleading against the death of death just...is unnecessary? I don't know. He's tunnelled me in every game in existence, so that is no clue for me but yeah I typically think that someone that's sticking his head out for actual no gain is something town ends up doing. And SBell, to me, has always been prideful. Kind of like...Dark Spiral in a way...just less weird. This does ring similiar to how Lopen (Town in YYH Mafia) went after SBell ironically enough.

other random notes (from either reading the topic in real time and missing 90% of the post or conversely what i read when i was in front of a pc)
-lea was very weirdly passive. busy or whatever? i understand being busy, i am very popular and get busy too. driving or whatever, so...like, i guess she drove across canada again for some reason. i sympatheize and do not doubt the business, but, she did talk early in day 1 morning...I dunno, the behavior strikes me as abnormal. like...forced posting, in a way. i don't think she's town.
-only other player that i noticed to have protected sultan (besides chris) was 5tar. not sure what this means, if anyone wants to talk about it let me know?
-scare and han are very clearly lying about what they claimed.
-is ulti actually claiming the same thing he's done like 20 other times actually indicative of anything?
-sultan comes off as the low hanging fruit, since he's eaed 2.0. he probably should just be scanned because i've never actually played with him.
-if chris actually bussed death then props to him, but i solidly trust him to be town. cresdent too really...but i dont know if she's a busser so /shrug
-do chris and red always make a dead declaration of them being town or scum day 1? ive played in a few games together with them and there's always someone saying <i>something</i> tips X or Y to being whatever.

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Obellisk
02/25/20 11:09:05 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
No way that kill happened unless she breadcrumbed that. And if ur doctor why would I breadcrumb that.

I mean crescent really killed their roleblocker yesterday.

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turbopuns3
02/25/20 11:09:21 PM
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well F

But also HOLY shit snacks that day 1 lmao

Guessing nearly everyone on the death lynch is town, wouldn't be surprised if there was as little as 1 scum on there honestly
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Hbthebattle
02/25/20 11:09:55 PM
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@Leanansidhe
@red13n
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Bossman_Coolguy
02/25/20 11:10:58 PM
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<b>##vote: icgd</b>

thanks alot gamefaqs


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Bossman_Coolguy
02/25/20 11:11:29 PM
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##vote: icgd

its past my bedtime

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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:11:36 PM
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Crescent was a good and obvious kill last night.

Shame she was the doctor, but hey two days of peak Chris is nice.

##vote: Corrik

btw IGCD is never scum

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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:12:42 PM
#18:


Obellisk posted...
I mean crescent really killed their roleblocker yesterday.
I killed the roleblocker yesterday. Wtf

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turbopuns3
02/25/20 11:13:01 PM
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Votals

Death - 9: Crescent, Chris, Lea, Sultan, Corrik, Gravy, Puns, IGCD, Scare
Gravy - 2: Sbell, Death
Crescent - 1: Red
Ulti - 1: MZero
Sbell - 0: (Puns), (Sultan)
Chris - 0: (Corrik)
Red - 0: (Chris), (Death)
Lolo - 0: (Puns), (Puns)

Also I kind of doubt if scum sbell acts that way toward death? I mean he was super blatant.

##Vote: red

This seems like a good place to start
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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:13:16 PM
#20:


Oh hey that's cute. 2 votes on me.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:14:26 PM
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So some Death Note(s):

His way of saying IGCD's passing mention of him was a "strike" felt like he was genuinely attacked by IGCD and feeling panicked, so likely town imo
On Lea I detected some scum bitterness towards town
Corrik he handwaved in a way I didn't like at all. "Corrik has caught me before as town so it's fine" but surely Lea has done so before as well, and Corrik's example of death's behavior I didn't find convincing at all.

Off with the busser's head.

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Obellisk
02/25/20 11:14:28 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
I killed the roleblocker yesterday. Wtf

Crescent went hard into death. Confirmed town after that display.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:15:13 PM
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Oh and yes, Sbell is probably fine.

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/25/20 11:15:33 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Scare doesn't trust me because I'm a night 0 prosty cop and I scanned him so he knows I know he's Scum and he's scare'd.

Also Red and Death confirmed Town, good game start so far.


Soo han exsplain this

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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:15:41 PM
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Leanansidhe posted...
You're the best scum player on B8, you must be stopped
CorrikFear

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Lolo_Guru
02/25/20 11:16:00 PM
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who's this bossman coolguy person, don't see him on the player list?
turbopuns3 posted...
Guessing nearly everyone on the death lynch is town, wouldn't be surprised if there was as little as 1 scum on there honestly
Yeah, no reason to consider scenarios where the scumteam heavy-bussed their roleblocker d1.

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Obellisk
02/25/20 11:16:02 PM
#28:


And yeah, my bad on that whole don't kill death thing.

The heads been hanging pretty low the last 36 hours.

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Bossman_Coolguy
02/25/20 11:16:22 PM
#29:


lea do you have any comments about my vile accustation that you were busy at work

im up 16 minutes past my bedtime i might as well milk it for its worth

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/25/20 11:16:23 PM
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Who is boss cool guy? Alts suck

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Obellisk
02/25/20 11:16:41 PM
#32:


Bossman is gravy.


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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:17:12 PM
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Obellisk posted...
And yeah, my bad on that whole don't kill death thing.

The heads been hanging pretty low the last 36 hours.
Why? Pretty much everyone was trying to make excuses to extend it. And death would have never been lynched if it had been. That's why I am laughing that people don't realize the early hammer is the only reason death is dead now.


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Obellisk
02/25/20 11:18:31 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
Why? Pretty much everyone was trying to make excuses to extend it. And death would have never been lynched if it had been. That's why I am laughing that people don't realize the early hammer is the only reason death is dead now.

I'm not sorry we ended day early.

I'm sorry I thought death was town.

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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:19:22 PM
#36:


Should just learn to listen to me. I told you he claimed scum.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:20:01 PM
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Easy to know that when he is your scumbuddy Corrik. That was a blatant bus tbh

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Obellisk
02/25/20 11:20:37 PM
#38:


I mean, over the years I've learned to listen to Chris more.

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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:20:44 PM
#39:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Easy to know that when he is your scumbuddy Corrik. That was a blatant bus tbh
So hard to give credit where it is due for you, eh?

*Shrug*

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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:21:09 PM
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I was prepared to give lots of credit to Crescent who did a great job. But she's dead, so that waits until post game.

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red13n
02/25/20 11:21:17 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Soo han exsplain this

He also flips later and says the Death lynch is fine out of the blue.

That said my initial instinct is no trust of Scare or Han.

Scare with the no context hammer on the RB'er to shut down the day. Possible he was just chasing free town cred.

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turbopuns3
02/25/20 11:21:22 PM
#43:


Lolo_Guru posted...
Yeah, no reason to consider scenarios where the scumteam heavy-bussed their roleblocker d1.

I can't tell if you're being facetious
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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:22:02 PM
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Han was literally simply trolling me with that Death response. Red thinking that is a valid line to say "han flipped" has me deeply concerned about Red.

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Corrik7
02/25/20 11:22:10 PM
#45:


Probably 7 or 8 of the people on death day 1 are town. If not all 9. Tbqh.


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red13n
02/25/20 11:22:43 PM
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turbopuns3 posted...
Votals

Death - 9: Crescent, Chris, Lea, Sultan, Corrik, Gravy, Puns, IGCD, Scare
Gravy - 2: Sbell, Death
Crescent - 1: Red
Ulti - 1: MZero
Sbell - 0: (Puns), (Sultan)
Chris - 0: (Corrik)
Red - 0: (Chris), (Death)
Lolo - 0: (Puns), (Puns)

Also I kind of doubt if scum sbell acts that way toward death? I mean he was super blatant.

##Vote: red

This seems like a good place to start

Like hell am I a good place to start. I spent the night seeing if Death would engage at all(He didn't). By the time I got on the next day he was hammered.

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Hbthebattle
02/25/20 11:23:17 PM
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Votals
Corrik - 2: Chris, Lea
IGCD - 1: Gravy
Red - 1: Puns
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TheSultanOfSlam
02/25/20 11:23:59 PM
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red13n posted...
That said my initial instinct is no trust of Scare or Han.

Scare said not to trust han. I mean i guess that could be a hey if i tell people to not trust my scum buddy and he flips scum ill look good

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DoomTheGyarados
02/25/20 11:24:09 PM
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On the Death Lynch I am fine with Lea, Sultan, and IGCD 100%
Corrik was a bus vote
Scare may have been a bus vote
Not sure on Puns/Gravy yet

Sbell probably OK.

Ulti still is bad.

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