Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1327

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MereChristian posted...

I have a feeling Undertale will either lose in the first round or win the entire contest.

It's not going to win at all. The fandom has long been calm and there isn't any hype for people to rally around. Just look at sans' performance last contest.

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It'll probably beat Octopath since OT's pretty niche (and I say this as probably the biggest Octopath fan on this board), and I think it has a decent shot against Shovel Knight/Dragon's Dogma (though I have Shovel Knight winning that fourpack myself right now). It's cooked against Odyssey though.

I think Undertale will have decent strength and be one of the stronger indie games in the bracket, but it won't be getting any rallies this time. Undertale/Shovel Knight should be a fun match, at any rate!

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snake_5036 posted...

It's not going to win at all. The fandom has long been calm and there isn't any hype for people to rally around. Just look at sans' performance last contest.

So you got Octopath beating it? If an anti-vote factor exists like it did in the previous contest, it could very well happen.

I think nothing really explains Amaterasu making Draven look like someone who would get doubled by Tanner except pure site revenge.

And that same revenge is enough to make Undertale get wasted by Ocopath as much fodder as it is.

I have Octopath beating Undertale and Dragon's Dogma. DD is more of bias pick, that game is really good and so underrated.. Winner of OT/UT wins the fourpack pretty easily, I think.

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Not_Wylvane posted...

It'll probably beat Octopath since OT's pretty niche (and I say this as probably the biggest Octopath fan on this board)

A JRPG deliberately designed to ape the 16-bit classics, and which was the only big game of its ilk for a while on the Switch, is anything but niche on JRPGFAQs. Heck, Primrose arguably looked better than Sans even indirectly in 2018, and would likely have beaten the tar out of the latter one-on-one - even though Primrose is merely an ensemble cast member.

Also, why does literally no one seem to have any awareness of Shovel Knight the character's 2018 match?

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I can't stand Undertale but i don't think it compares to someone like Draven. He was pure fodder to begin with so his defeat looked way worse because of him winning before.

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If you disregard the contest history angle, Draven really was one of the most insignificant characters in the last bracket, but instead of scratching our particular itches like some of the obscure JRPG characters and whatnot would, instead he's from something the site doesn't like, respect, or care about at all.

Draven also did better among registered voters than guest voters, did better at the freeze than at the end of the first hour, and for the most part his percentage kept dropping every hour until leveling off around 12 hours in. The less a given voter group would be expected know about contests, the worse Draven did. There was no notable revenge factor. He was just that bad.

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MetalmindStats posted...

Also, why does literally no one seem to have any awareness of Shovel Knight the character's 2018 match?

That was a travesty and he should've beaten Toad. No idea what happened there, but his performance doesn't exude confidence. It's friggin' Toad.

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SwiftyDC posted...

That was a travesty and he should've beaten Toad. No idea what happened there, but his performance doesn't exude confidence. It's friggin' Toad.

38% on Aerith should exude confidence, unless you're convinced that overlap/general wonkiness caused Shovel Knight to massively overperform against Captain Toad for some reason, or I guess that Captain Toad in turn greatly overperformed against Aerith thanks to being a recognizable Nintendo option against a Square character.

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Not really when the whole of FF7 was n a downward trajectory then and this site has a hierarchy of Nintendo > Square so those results could be a little wonky regardless.

Shovel Knight would've lost to Waluigi as well.

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Also, characters =/= games so Shovel Knight (game) could be stronger than the character, who knows.

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I don't really know anything about any indie games. Cuphead looked good and i guess people class Bloodstained as indie and that was brilliant.

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SwiftyDC posted...

Not really when the whole of FF7 was n a downward trajectory then and this site has a hierarchy of Nintendo > Square so those results could be a little wonky regardless.

Shovel Knight would've lost to Waluigi as well.

FF7 deboost didn't apply to the female FF7 characters. Also Cloud managed to barely hang on to his status as the second strongest character which isn't that bad since people definitely thought he might not make it.
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SwiftyDC posted...

Not really when the whole of FF7 was n a downward trajectory then and this site has a hierarchy of Nintendo > Square so those results could be a little wonky regardless.

We have to remember, though, that it was a very strong year for Cloud and Tifa as well, so I don't think FFVII losing power had much to do with the characters that year.

Besides, isn't Toad beloved and respected? Captain Toad may just boost him a bit.

Also, Shovel Knight put a respectable number on San Andreas in 2015. (Yeah, yeah, GTA may not be that strong overall, but until proven otherwise, I'd say San Andreas is the second most powerful GTA game, just behind GTAV.)

Undertale still easily wins that fourpack, unless the site heavily anti-votes it.

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The_Ctes posted...

I suppose God of War III actually is from this decade. Wonder if some people didn't nominate it thinking it was from last decade.

Mass Effect 2 came out on January 2010. Gow3 wasn't that great. They didn't nominate it because its the weakest in the Trilogy most likely. I'm a huge GoW fan. GOw 3 is the weakest out of all 4 mainline games(not including the handheld and Ascension games). Still a good game. But not as good as any of the others or popular.
MereChristian posted...

I have a feeling Undertale will either lose in the first round or win the entire contest.

Nah. It doesn't have the LGBTQ tumblr community rallying it. It will be deent strength but will get taken out quick.

LeonhartFour posted...

Golden has more than one or two new things. It almost has an entirely separate game's worth of new content.

No it doesn't. I've played through Golden multiple times. It has more content, but if you 100% the PS4 version you're only getting a few more character social links and an extra month where not much happens. The most significant changes are being able to do more sidequests at night and its a bit more polished.

Don't get me wrong. Persona 4 Golden is a unique situation where i think it would be stronger than the original game. Unlike stuff like pokemon HGSS.

I'm still disappointed we never got P4G on modern consoles even the SWitch.

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MereChristian posted...

So you got Octopath beating it? If an anti-vote factor exists like it did in the previous contest, it could very well happen.

I do. I think OT was meh, but a Square RPG on Switch should beat a game that ~25% of this site claims they will never play simply because it won the 2015 contest (and that game's fandom is now mostly dead and incapable of sustained rallying).

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I don't expect much from Octopath Traveler. Simply being a Square RPG meant something in 2004. It doesn't mean as much now. It got a 14 seed for a reason.

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I think Super Mario Galaxy 2 vs Witcher 3 is arguably the biggest match of the contest. Either one, if they win, will probably at least make semis.

Convince me why SMG 2 won't win???

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SuperNiceDog posted...

Convince me why SMG 2 won't win???

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6064-best-game-ever-day-4-super-mario-galaxy-2-vs-mass-effect

people forget this match happened huh

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Mass effect 1 beat galaxy 2 in 2015.

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LeonhartFour posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6064-best-game-ever-day-4-super-mario-galaxy-2-vs-mass-effect

people forget this match happened huh

Mass Effect 3 was screwed out of its finals appearance due to bad bracket placement, so Galaxy 2 must have also been a neo semi-finalist as well.

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LeonhartFour posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6064-best-game-ever-day-4-super-mario-galaxy-2-vs-mass-effect

people forget this match happened huh

Ooooh yea that hurts my argument. Maybe SMG2 gained street cred since it's so old. That's what I think. I just think on here, Nintendo has an advantage against Western

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I never entertained the possibility of Octopath Traveler beating Undertale. The latter is one of the most talked-about games of the decade and even has representation in Smash now.

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LeonhartFour posted...

I don't expect much from Octopath Traveler. Simply being a Square RPG meant something in 2004. It doesn't mean as much now. It got a 14 seed for a reason.

Id say it has more Nintendo cred than Square cred, even though they developed it! Nintendo was the publisher outside of Japan and was heavily involved (same deal as Bravely Default) plus it lines up more with the likes of Golden Sun than modern FF. I also wouldnt call Octopath niche, it sold like 2 million copies. But yeah it has no chance against Undertale. Undertale will get anti-voted but will also be naturally decently strong.

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Eh, I just feel like people are reasonably split about whether they ended up liking Octopath or not. I don't think it's a fan favorite in the way Golden Sun was or Xenoblade is.

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SuperNiceDog posted...

I think Super Mario Galaxy 2 vs Witcher 3 is arguably the biggest match of the contest. Either one, if they win, will probably at least make semis.

Convince me why SMG 2 won't win???

lol. Witcher is going to demolish galaxy 2.

also witcher coming out on switch has sort of nullified the nintendo fanbase slightly. That game is popular on switch as well

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Nah don't listen to them. SMG2 is going to win easily.

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There's a sitewide "Enter your bracket for the Game of the Decade Contest today!" banner...

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PrinceOfKoopas posted...

There's a sitewide "Enter your bracket for the Game of the Decade Contest today!" banner...

It also shows up for people not logged into an account, so it will be seen by those visiting the site for the first time. However, the current site alert is only the normal one, not the more eye-grabbing yellow site alert which I expect will be used at some point within the final 24 hours prior to bracket lockdown.
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Allen hasn't given us info regarding actual contest stats, right?

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Advokaiser posted...

Allen hasn't given us info regarding actual contest stats, right?

Correct.

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I think one time he said Link had the most nominations

he used to do a Dojo style thing where he'd reveal little tidbits about the contest but I don't think he will again

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ZenOfThunder posted...

I think one time he said Link had the most nominations

he used to do a Dojo style thing where he'd reveal little tidbits about the contest but I don't think he will again

That was the 2010 contest. I remember because I was the one who asked! He said Ocelot was the character who got the fewest nominations that made the bracket without a vote-in, too!

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Mass Effect 2 came out on January 2010. Gow3 wasn't that great. They didn't nominate it because its the weakest in the Trilogy most likely. I'm a huge GoW fan. GOw 3 is the weakest out of all 4 mainline games(not including the handheld and Ascension games). Still a good game. But not as good as any of the others or popular.

The release of ME2 changes nothing I said. God of War III feels like a 00s game because it was part of a trilogy of quite similar games where the other two are PS2 games.

I don't think you're right that it's less popular than the others. From my impression, the trilogy is quite consistent in popularity and I don't think there's any noticeable difference to them in that regard.

The fourth game surely overshadowed it in terms of nominations though.

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Can Persona 5 make the finals? I right now have Persona 5 making the finals from the bottom half.

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No, Skyrim does.

Moonroof posted...

No, Skyrim does.

awwww Moonroofie but Persona 5 has Joker he's my homie.

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Persona 5 beats Witcher 3 and thats the end for it.

Moonroof posted...

No, Skyrim does.

I would pick Persona 5 to beat Metroid Prime also. So it's gonna be very close

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Check the Board 8 wikia.

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/GameFAQs_contest

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So I just happened to find a new contest community growing in the wild:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1324-actual-poll-of-the-day

So I went there and linked to all of our side contests, the wiki, etc.

Those people are the ones who are really into polls, so we have a shared interest!

SuperNiceDog posted...

I would pick Persona 5 to beat Metroid Prime also. So it's gonna be very close

Metroid prime would beat skyrim now no doubt. It would beat every game in this bracket bar BOTW and smash imo. That match was too close and too many factors behind it. Skyrim was more relevant and modern. Its the reason why im taking witcher over skyrim.

same reason prime would beat fallout 3 as well and why it lost to it back in 2010.

as for persona 5. It was a switch release away from legit #2 on this site for the decade. Im not exagerrating either.

had persona 5 gotten a switch port it would be ridiculously strong


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SwiftyDC posted...

Nah don't listen to them. SMG2 is going to win easily.

sure it is

people need to lay off the nintendo crack.

sure BOTW is going to win easily. But BOTW fan =/= nintendo fan.

its going to take a monumental effort for smg2 to beat out a game like witcher 3. Witcher 3 is a defining game of the decade similar to that of BOTW. Smg2 is hust an excellent mario game Th at came out on wii u. Is it as good or better than witcher? Thats another story. When i look back at this decade. Witcher is just more relevant.

id say only. BOTW hashad more hype and praise than witche this gen.


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I'm struggling with picking between Horizon and Fortnite lol. Horizon is almost assuredly the better game, but it's not mainstream like Fortnite.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

sure it is

people need to lay off the nintendo crack.

sure BOTW is going to win easily. But BOTW fan =/= nintendo fan.

its going to take a monumental effort for smg2 to beat out a game like witcher 3. Witcher 3 is a defining game of the decade similar to that of BOTW. Smg2 is hust an excellent mario game Th at came out on wii u. Is it as good or better than witcher? Thats another story. When i look back at this decade. Witcher is just more relevant.

id say only. BOTW hashad more hype and praise than witche this gen.

That was sarcasm.

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SwiftyDC posted...

That was sarcasm.

Good.

But seriously its an actual debate for some people

Like Mario games have been some sort of standard for strength...since when? Zelda? Sure Mario? not really.

Apart from Mario 64...what Mario game has shown elite level strength? You can name half adozen Zelda games that have shown that. World and SMB3 are about the same level and are strong...but Mario 64 is the only Mario game that has any genuine monstrous strength.

Galaxy 1 was pathetic in the past and Galaxy 2 lost out to a new IP Sci fi RPG. Galaxy 2 failed to win GOTY on a Nitnendo heavy site as well. Odyssey may be strong we'll see. WE don't know yet. 3D world and games like that have flopped.

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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

I'm struggling with picking between Horizon and Fortnite lol. Horizon is almost assuredly the better game, but it's not mainstream like Fortnite.

Fortnite has more potential for stupid rallies

Gamefaqs only? Its not close. Horizon crushes Fortnite.

But FOrtnite is a decent upset pick simply because that game has a huge following and some idiot will rally it. Nothing Draven or Undertale level..but enough to beat fodder like Horizon

So my advice is this

Go with Horizon.

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Fortnite's not popular on a site like GameFAQs (unless a rally takes over). Horizon's got that match pretty easily.

I feel like people are underestimating Bloodstained for that fourpack. I feel like most voters will equate it to Symphony of the Night and gain all the strength that comes with it.

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