Current Events > New York's ban on plastic bags begins today.

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/new-yorkers-rankled-on-first-day-of-statewide-plastic-bag-ban/

New Yorkers were forced to begin grappling with a new shopping reality Sunday as the states ban on plastic shopping bags kicked in and not many people were happy about it. I think its ridiculous, letter-carrier Scott Kimmel, 56, said while shopping at the Whitestone Target in College Point, Queens. I understand about conserve, take care of the environment, but cmon! About half the shoppers seen by The Post on the first day of the bag ban, including Kimmel, were compensating by bringing their own bags from home, while another quarter opted to just go bagless rather than pay the 5-cent paper-bag fee allowed under the law, and the remaining 25 percent coughed up the nickel charge per bag. I was totally shocked, Target shopper Richie Alvarez, 49, said of the move. This is what our world is coming to. Yeah, they charged me extra for the bag. Thats why I only took one. It would normally be two or three bags. The law, passed by state lawmakers last year, bars single-use plastic bags at any retailer from supermarkets to bodegas that collects sales tax at their store. It allows shoppers to bring bags from home, buy a reusable bag at the store, or pay the 5-cent fee for paper bags.

Although it went into effect Sunday, state officials said they wont bring the hammer down on retailers who ignore the law until April, when fines could start to kick in. People dont want to hear this, said the manager of C-Town Supermarket on Manhattans Lower East Side, who only identified himself as Henry. Theyre not happy. At least I have a month to break them in. Were trying to get cheap mesh bags for them. Well see. Smaller retailers, including the Food Bazaar Supermarket in Woodside, opted to ease into the new world of plastic-less retail by pushing their remaining supply before tapping new stacks of brown paper bags. This is it! the stores manager said. We have enough for one, maybe two days. These are the last, then no more. You cant order, no one has more. At the Bay Ridge Stop & Shop in Brooklyn, some shoppers were so ticked off that they blindly lashed out Mayor Bill de Blasio, who supports the ban but in reality did not pass it the state did. This is nonsense, said Constance Tripoli, 53. I aint got no SUV like the mayor to take my groceries home. I told them I needed bags, and they snuck me a few.

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This will be the new black market for plastic bags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMITcQUe-9M
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Reusable bags are better anyway.
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NY is stupid sometimes. A lot of times.

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Damn people still use plastic bags in 2020 lmao wow.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

Reusable bags are better anyway.

I already reuse the plastic ones for trash bags.

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It's been 2-3 years since I've used a plastic bag. Re-usable cloth bags, cardboard boxes, and a duffel bag work just fine for me if I absolutely need one.

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Damn i forgot some states havent done this yet.

Catch up

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

Damn i forgot some states havent done this yet.

Catch up

You mean legalize recreational marijuana?
Oh wait... >_>
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Yea its funny when people see this happening in a new state and get mad lol. We did it here at any grocery store or a store that sells food (like Target) and its been fine. Reusable bags work perfectly. But I use them for trash bags!...oh well. Guess youll have to spend 2 bucks on a roll of garbage bags. Oh no.

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Minneapolis does this. You can still get a plastic bag, but you have to pay for them now. 5 cents a piece, but still. And no straws usually.

SiO4 posted...

This will be the new black market for plastic bags.

What black market?
They be bought on Amazon at $25 for a thousand.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GYP81Q/

Questionmarktarius posted...

What black market?
They be bought on Amazon at $25 for a thousand.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GYP81Q/

I was joking.

I'll probably use my day pack the most, which ironically I bought at Macy's in Manhatten.
I've been using that for a while anyway.

I am hoping to get panniers for my bike at some point.
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I'll counteract this effort by going to the supermarket tomorrow, buy 25 items, go to self checkout, use one single plastic bag for each single item and laugh in the face of the environment.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

I'll counteract this effort by going to the supermarket tomorrow, buy 25 items, go to self checkout, use one single plastic bag for each single item and laugh in the face of the environment.

There have been times when I thought the cashier was paid by the amount of bags they give out.
I'm sure there are a ton of pain in the ass people out there.

But if I'm buying canned soup and hand soap, I am not worried about the hand soap infiltrating the can.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I'll counteract this effort by going to the supermarket tomorrow, buy 25 items, go to self checkout, use one single plastic bag for each single item and laugh in the face of the environment.

Why?

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eggcorn posted...

Damn people still use plastic bags in 2020 lmao wow.

Why wouldnt they?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

What black market?
They be bought on Amazon at $25 for a thousand.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GYP81Q/

Lol nice. My mom was complaining about the bags today so maybe I'll order these for her

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Artisan1990 posted...

no straws usually.

i can live with this. though i know there's others who do require them because of medical conditions etc. they have to use those metal straws.

wendy's stopped giving straws out unless you request one.
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TendoDRM posted...

Why?

Probably because this over freak out about using shit like plastic bags is out of control. This 4 billion year old planet isn't randomly dying in 12 years.

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lilJoe457 posted...

Probably because this over freak out about using shit like plastic bags is out of control. This 4 billion year old planet isn't randomly dying in 12 years.

As a tree hugger, I do agree.
The amount of material in a plastic bag is minimal compared to the rest of the plastic in our environment.
As, say, any plastic bottle. I do realize bags blow in the wind better, but still. It feels like the pendulum swinging too far the other way. And the $.5 cost of a bag is nothing but a regressive tax. I honestly want to know where that money is going.
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lookin like thailand

New York being dumb as fuck as usual. Ignores all the people who don't have cars and other situations when you just need a plastic bag.

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VipaGTS posted...

Yea its funny when people see this happening in a new state and get mad lol. We did it here at any grocery store or a store that sells food (like Target) and its been fine. Reusable bags work perfectly. But I use them for trash bags!...oh well. Guess youll have to spend 2 bucks on a roll of garbage bags. Oh no.

I thought the ostensible point was to cut down on plastic waste, not merely force the consumer to purchase it.

I've always reused the bags for many purposes.

VipaGTS posted...

Guess youll have to spend 2 bucks on a roll of garbage bags.

Please tell me where you can get a roll of garbage bags for two fucking bucks.

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Bryfang posted...

My local supermarket didn't give a fuck.

It's not an immediately enforced full ban. It starts today, but the gradual process and enforcement will happen over the course of a few years.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

Damn i forgot some states havent done this yet.

Catch up

Don't worry soon other states will be stupid too

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SiO4 posted...

You mean legalize recreational marijuana?
Oh wait... >_>

That too

SiO4 posted...

I honestly want to know where that money is going.

it goes back to the store (at least in oregon) not sure how new york decides how the money is spent.
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Jokes on you, State. Think you can ban plastics bags?

Federal can still hand out plastic to customers. I can shop at the Commissary and get the last laugh while walking out with 10+ bags for groceries.

kingdrake2 posted...

it goes back to the store (at least in oregon) not sure how new york decides how the money is spent.

That's complete bull shit. Those bags cost nowhere near $.5 a piece.
That's fucked up.
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SiO4 posted...

That's complete bull shit. Those bags cost nowhere near $.5 a piece.
That's fucked up.

Aldi figured that out decades ago.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Aldi figured that out decades ago.

Ya, I am completely Aldis curious.
I've never been but there is one close to a friend's house.
I was ignorant of their brand. I thought it was a small market type grocery store. Like a Tops.
I didn't realize their German roots and the many EU compliant products.
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SiO4 posted...

Ya, I am completely Aldis curious.

The quality is hit and miss, in that the good stuff is really good, and the bad stuff is pretty bad. Prices are great though.

Questionmarktarius posted...

The quality is hit and miss, in that the good stuff is really good, and the bad stuff is pretty bad. Prices are great though.

Ya, I want to check it out. It's basically across the street from my friend's place.
I'm actually kinda pissed there isn't one close to me, as there is a perfect place for it.
But the main Grocery store seems to have an unspoken stranglehold on my town.
They have basically no real competition. I'm positive there is a political reason for that.
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SiO4 posted...

But the main Grocery store seems to have an unspoken stranglehold on my town.

You're from upstate right? Is that shop Price Chopper? Lol, just wondering.

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I wouldn't know any of this I don't shop for groceries they tend to just bring them to me. Why waste your time on this? Is this a third world country problem? Please tell me this isn't in the US....

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DoctorVader posted...

You're from upstate right? Is that shop Price Chopper? Lol, just wondering.

Haha, Ya bingo!!
The Hannofords are all in the periphery. Just outside of town.
The Aldis is one town over.

I don't even hate PC, but I wish they weren't the only game in town.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

Reusable bags are better anyway.

This
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Phantom_Nook posted...

Reusable bags are better anyway.

I got a car full of the damned things, because I never remember I have a car full of the damned things until I'm already at the checkout.

Questionmarktarius posted...

I got a car full of the damned things, because I never remember I have a car full of the damned things until I'm already at the checkout.

That happened to me the First 20 times

SiO4 posted...

That's fucked up.

have to either (carry items in hand) or a tote (can even use own tote you purchased somewhere else)
everyone uses em to save on cost.

takes about 20 store trips to break even on a bought tote.
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kingdrake2 posted...

have to either (carry items in hand) or a tote (can even use own tote you purchased somewhere else)
everyone uses em to save on cost.

takes about 20 store trips to break even on a bought tote.

Yell well I like to hike, so I have backpacks for any occasion.
Still, I think the $.5 surcharge that the company gets to keep is excessive.
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I stopped using plastic when I lived on the fourth floor with no elevator immediately, haven't looked back since, I'm not making several trips up and down 3 flights of stairs with my bad back and knees

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Spoilers: Old and stubborn people will whine and complain about the inconvenience for 1-3 months. People will then complain that things in the store use plastic packaging and still create rubbish

Then people move on and nobody cares.

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Darmik posted...

People will then complain that things in the store use plastic packaging and still create rubbish

on the reason why they banned the plastic bags in the first place.... it's not because of the ocean problem. when they do the garbage processing. the bags get caught somehow and workers have to work the machine to untangle em (takes alot of time).

not sure if this is the reason for NY's problem but this is why Oregon got rid of them.
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bump

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Im ok with no plastic bags, paper straws can fuck off.

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I walked up to the store last night, with my handy dandy 20+ year old North face Backpack.
Put my two 6 packs in the bag, and walked back home!
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