Poll of the Day > Do Joe Biden voters actually like him, or do they just want to defeat Trump?

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For an old-ass man who constantly puts his foot in his mouth, it's surprising how much of a voter-base Joe still has. Do these people genuinely LIKE Joe Biden, or are they just trying to find somebody (ANYBODY) that has a shot a beating Trump?

There's no right or wrong answer here. Vote away, peeps!

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depends on the voter

Ill vote for him if he is the nominee. Definitely not my first pick but hes a hell of a lot better than Trump or any conservative.

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since i'm in ca, it literally doesn't matter. whichever dem becomes the nominee will win the state, regardless if i vote for them or not
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I'm more than likely not voting. Both choices suck and a third-party has no realistic shot.

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If I were to vote, I'd be voting Gabbard because she's not a dinosaur.

I encourage you all to go out and vote so I don't have to.

blu posted...

I encourage you all to go out and vote so I don't have to.

This is both dumb and lazy

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Just to defeat Trump, according to an MSNBC poll a couple days back. *shrugs*

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Joe Biden voters don't actually exist.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

since i'm in ca, it literally doesn't matter. whichever dem becomes the nominee will win the state, regardless if i vote for them or not

Yeah, its really one-sided how our state works.

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He's not my first or even 2nd, 3rd, etc... choice from the Dem field.
But I do still like him and have no problem voting for him.

streamofthesky posted...

He's not my first or even 2nd, 3rd, etc... choice from the Dem field.
But I do still like him and have no problem voting for him.

The dude is quite obviously on the verge of advanced dementia and imagine how bad he will be 4 years from now. I know people hate trump but let's be rational ffs. The man has had 2 cranial aneurysms and had to have surgery

Voting for Trump is not only irrational, it's downright moronic. I'll take my chances with senile Biden over dumb-as-shit Trump.

BloodWhen_iWipe posted...

Voting for Trump is not only irrational, it's downright moronic. I'll take my chances with senile Biden over dumb-as-shit Trump.

you admit biden is senile, but think voting for him isn't irrational?
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

you admit biden is senile, but think voting for him isn't irrational?

TDS is powerful

I probably wont vote. But it really depends. While I dont know who Id vote for, I know Id never vote Trump...
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

you admit biden is senile, but think voting for him isn't irrational?

Where did I say voting for Biden isn't irrational? Learn to read.

I'm saying if the choice is between something that's irrational and stupid, and something that's simply irrational, I'll take my chances with the less stupid choice.

Didn't think that was that hard to figure out, but I guess you have to spell everything out for some people.

BloodWhen_iWipe posted...

Where did I say voting for Biden isn't irrational? Learn to read.

I'm saying if the choice is between something that's irrational and stupid, and something that's simply irrational, I'll take my chances with the less stupid choice.

Didn't think that was that hard to figure out, but I guess you have to spell everything out for some people.

TDS (Trump Defender Syndrome) is powerful

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https://youtu.be/w0fJkMLuuCo

this man needs to be in a retirement home. This video doesn't even include his worst gaffes like calling black kids roaches and saying he likes kids jumping on his lap (YouTube blocks them). This dude would embarrass this country more than trump could ever hope to

OhhhJa posted...

The dude is quite obviously on the verge of advanced dementia and imagine how bad he will be 4 years from now. I know people hate trump but let's be rational ffs. The man has had 2 cranial aneurysms and had to have surgery

Have you ever heard a Trump speech?

How is sentences just meander for ever into nonsense? Trump's at least as senile as Biden. Which I guess is why it usually feels like a Mike Pence presidency, with the rigid absolute adherence to the religious right on everything.
Whoever Biden picks as VP will probably have a strong influence on his agenda, too.

streamofthesky posted...

How is sentences just meander for ever into nonsense? Trump's at least as senile as Biden

No way lol

OhhhJa posted...

TDS is powerful

Didn't you hear the Gamefaqs mods? TDS does not exist.

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Don't think Bernie will win the primary. In which case Biden has my full support and vote. Fuck Trump.
The_tall_midget posted...

Didn't you hear the Gamefaqs mods? TDS does not exist.

It does, it's just it doesn't apply to the people you say it does.

I think it's a combination of liking Obama and therefore liking Biden, wanting to defeat Trump, and hating Bernie.

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Do I want a hardcore Republican for 4 more years or a half republican for 4 years?

And that half republican would progressively lose his mind, btw, which would mean his anonymous vp would be the president for the next 4 years

The guy doesn't even want to legalize weed, votes in favor of every outsourcing trade agreement, votes in favor of all military spending increases, now that gay marriage is a thing of the past I actually see zero difference between him and Trump. He would probably do the exact same things. The only benefit to a Biden candidacy I can see would be that he might somewhat rebuild the EPA, and he might not have kids in cages at the border.

But then if Biden wins it gives the DNC zero incentive to try harder to be less shady.

This is all with the massive assumption that a Hillary Clinton with dementia would even beat Trump.

And yeah I would have zero incentive to get off my ass and vote for Biden in the general.

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Yellow posted...

Do I want a hardcore Republican for 4 more years or a half republican for 4 years?

And that half republican would progressively lose his mind, btw, which would mean his anonymous vp would be the president for the next 4 years

The guy doesn't even want to legalize weed, votes in favor of every outsourcing trade agreement, votes in favor of all military spending increases, now that gay marriage is a thing of the past I actually see zero difference between him and Trump. He would probably do the exact same things. The only benefit to a Biden candidacy I can see would be that he might somewhat rebuild the EPA, and he might not have kids in cages at the border.

But then if Biden wins it gives the DNC zero incentive to try harder to be less shady.

This is all with the massive assumption that a Hillary Clinton with dementia would even beat Trump.

And yeah I would have zero incentive to get off my ass and vote for Biden in the general.

Meh

Trump had benefit of the doubt in 16, he doesn't get that again. People know how corrupt and incompetent he is now. It's going to motivate a lot of people and he hasn't expanded his support base.

Dude Trump will eat Biden alive at the debates.

Biden can barely finish a sentence.

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Yellow posted...

Dude Trump will eat Biden alive at the debates.

Biden can barely finish a sentence.

Hillary ate Trump alive at the debates in 2016, and it didn't matter.

Bloomberg got rhetorically destroyed by Warren in the Nevada debate, and went on to capture more votes than her on Super Tuesday anyway.

I think people overestimate how important it is to win a debate. What I've learned is, the true strategy (as is best in general in life) is: sandbagging
The narrative wasn't how bad Trump did in the debates. It was how he did marginally less awful than the extremely low bar he and the media had set for himself. It's not about winning. It's about exceeding expectations.

People do like Biden, a lot of Democrats do. You have the TDS types that still have some sanity left, but most people like Biden.
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Yellow posted...

And that half republican would progressively lose his mind, btw, which would mean his anonymous vp would be the president for the next 4 years

Unfortunately that isn't really how it works. The president will still have the real executive power and will still make all the globally embarrassing public speeches

BlackScythe0 posted...

Meh

Trump had benefit of the doubt in 16, he doesn't get that again. People know how corrupt and incompetent he is now. It's going to motivate a lot of people and he hasn't expanded his support base.

I thought it was the exact opposite of this. Pretty much every poll under the sun showed Hillary winning in 2016. If ANYONE had the "benefit of the doubt" in that election, it was Hillary (by pretty much every measurable standard).

Mind you, that's not even counting the endless slew of bad PR that was levied against Trump ("grab them by the p____" / "Muslim ban" / mocking a disabled reporter / etc.). The biggest thing against Hillary was her email scandal, and thanks to Bernie himself, most of her voters gladly looked past that whole debacle.

Granted, as for how die-hard Trump's support is NOW (compared to 2016), it's difficult to actually measure, since his target base consists of people that don't typically participate in popularity polls, but DO actually come out to vote on election days (when the vote actually matters).

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streamofthesky posted...

Hillary ate Trump alive at the debates in 2016

That is not true. South Park even made a joke of it.

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Veedrock- posted...

That is not true. South Park even made a joke of it.

It was kind of like in the movie Gladiator. Hillary won in terms of facts, but Trump won the crowd (which, on election day, was all that really mattered).

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Yellow posted...

Do I want a hardcore Republican for 4 more years or a half republican for 4 years?

And that half republican would progressively lose his mind, btw, which would mean his anonymous vp would be the president for the next 4 years

The guy doesn't even want to legalize weed, votes in favor of every outsourcing trade agreement, votes in favor of all military spending increases, now that gay marriage is a thing of the past I actually see zero difference between him and Trump. He would probably do the exact same things. The only benefit to a Biden candidacy I can see would be that he might somewhat rebuild the EPA, and he might not have kids in cages at the border.

But then if Biden wins it gives the DNC zero incentive to try harder to be less shady.

This is all with the massive assumption that a Hillary Clinton with dementia would even beat Trump.

And yeah I would have zero incentive to get off my ass and vote for Biden in the general.

Imagine unironically voting for ronald reagan 2.0.

Inb4 banned for being a colored foreigner so i must be russian bot or something terrorists.

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Just a reminder that a Biden administration, while more appealing to moderates, would still be the most progressive administration this country has seen

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Biden is more likely to hire people I agree with than Trump, so I would have no problem voting for him if it came down to it.
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Mead posted...

Just a reminder that a Biden administration, while more appealing to moderates, would still be the most progressive administration this country has seen

Im a moderate . Not a gfaqs mod. I wouldn't vote for biddy ironically if i was murikan.

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tonicpalin posted...

Im a moderate . Not a gfaqs mod. I wouldn't vote for biddy ironically if i was murikan.

you know I dont speak spanish

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Mead posted...

Just a reminder that a Biden administration, while more appealing to moderates, would still be the most progressive administration this country has seen

No

JFK
FDR
Even Obama

Democrats haven't even been very "centrist" until Bill Clinton came around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14A1zxaHpD8

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Yellow posted...

No

JFK
FDR
Even Obama

Democrats haven't even been very "centrist" until Bill Clinton came around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=14A1zxaHpD8

Dude obama was a borderline conservative in so many ways

and things were still fucked in so many ways under JFK. If FDR had been able to do everything that he wanted for the american people then maybe wed be better off today

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There's JFK telling people that we're behind every "modern" country in guaranteeing healthcare to citizens as a right that you won't go bankrupt for.

Imagine if he knew we wouldn't have it in 2020.

edit whoops not Roosevelt, I always get those two mixed up.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Meh

Trump had benefit of the doubt in 16, he doesn't get that again. People know how corrupt and incompetent he is now. It's going to motivate a lot of people and he hasn't expanded his support base.

proof of corruption?
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Yellow posted...

and he might not have kids in cages at the border.

Another reminder that this was happening during the Obama administration and that the pic in time magazine of the kids in cages was found to be from his administration. That was probably the greatest blunder of MSM trying to demonize trump. People somehow still ignored this fact because god forbid you suggest god emperor Obama did anything wrong

OhhhJa posted...

Another reminder that this was happening during the Obama administration and that the pic in time magazine of the kids in cages was found to be from his administration. That was probably the greatest blunder of MSM trying to demonize trump. People somehow still ignored this fact because god forbid you suggest god emperor Obama did anything wrong

Stop stating facts, it's annoying to the Marxists.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

proof of corruption?

PACs, super-PACs, lobbyists. It's all documented. Not legally corruption. Corporations and billionaires have him over to discuss things on the regular after they donate to him and he's very open about it.

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Yellow posted...

PACs, super-PACs, lobbyists. It's all documented. Not legally corruption. Corporations and billionaires have him over to discuss things on the regular after they donate to him and he's very open about it.

all (or almost all) politicians make deals with businesses to some degree
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Yellow posted...

PACs, super-PACs, lobbyists. It's all documented. Not legally corruption. Corporations and billionaires have him over to discuss things on the regular after they donate to him and he's very open about it.

See? It's all documented. No further proofs required.

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Yellow posted...

PACs, super-PACs, lobbyists. It's all documented. Not legally corruption. Corporations and billionaires have him over to discuss things on the regular after they donate to him and he's very open about it.

http://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00000528

Yeah, but I'll take Bernie Sanders with the majority of his funds coming from small dollar donations. He does technically take super PAC money from nurses united, among other very small ones (note that anything over $200 is considered a large contribution), so it would be incorrect to say he doesn't take any. (<1%)

Note that the list that you posted includes all employees of that company. Take Amazon for example
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000023883

100% of those donations came from individuals. With Bernie being (surprise) at the top of that list.

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I love the credibility of a rich white guy running to be the guy in charge who screams that rich white guys shouldn't be in charge.

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The_tall_midget posted...

I love the credibility of a rich white guy running to be the guy in charge who screams that rich white guys shouldn't be in charge.

You have a problem grouping all left leaning people as one single person with (of course) conflicting views, including the most fringe opinions of that group.

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