Board 8 > Illuminati Mafia Topic 4 - The Lies You Believe to Live a Comfortable Life

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The Living
3. Puns
5. 5tar
6. Red
7. Ben
9. Corrik
11. Sbell
12. Han

The dead
Tange - Mafia Godfather
Sultan - TOWN Day Gambler
HB/Death - TOWN Bodyguard
MZero - Mafia Ninja
Scare - TOWN Vanilla

New Topic VOTALS.
Red [1] - (5tar), Han,
Corrik [1] - Red,
Ben [1] - (5tar), 5tar
5tar [0] - (Red),

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95% sure it's just Red at this point.

So let me get this straight:

Lynch Ben or 5tar. (Ben for sake of this hypothetical)

Red and Puns scan 5tar - this forces Scum to kill and "RB" between the two. Or kill 5tar and "RB" Red.

Then we lynch Red. If we're still wrong at this point, it just leaves Puns.

So if there's 1 Scum left, we can probably work the game to a point where, either our Scanners find the last Scum, or the last Scum is left with 2 confirmed Town and we win the game.

Sounds like it's time for Scum to forfeit tbh..

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What are possible 2 Scum pairs?

Corrik and SBell

Puns and Corrik
Puns and SBell
Puns and Ben
Puns and Red
Puns and 5tar

Red and Ben
Red and 5tar

Ben and 5tar

I think that's fully correct?

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Looks pretty close yeah

I woke up to get groceries and am going back to bed but I think that is right.

I'm trying to play around ways in which to pull off a similar 'trapped' plan for 2 Scum remaining, but it doesn't quite work as well.

Corrik and SBell, despite being a 'possibility', is incredibly unlikely and I'm not considering it at all.

Ben and 5tar is the only configuration that deals with both of you telling the truth, so ideally, we still go that route.

Otherwise, it's taking the biggest swatches of removal from options.

Red fought hard to get 5tar lynched, so I think we lynch Ben if we do this 'trapped' plan, right?

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Tag

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

What are possible 2 Scum pairs?

Corrik and SBell

Puns and Corrik
Puns and SBell
Puns and Ben
Puns and Red
Puns and 5tar

Red and Ben
Red and 5tar

Ben and 5tar

I think that's fully correct?

I think this is completely extraneous.

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Probably.

Let's settle on a plan.


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The fact Ben and 5tar keep saying to Lynch them is sad. Town should be fighting to live and proving someone is scum. Sad


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Corrik7 posted...

I think this is completely extraneous.

I mean it's actually just that list but minus all the ones with me, which makes it a much simpler view

turbopuns3 posted...

I mean it's actually just that list but minus all the ones with me, which makes it a much simpler view

But, he is assuming u are town to make it, so why list you in it at all. It was pointless and extraneous.

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Corrik7 posted...

But, he is assuming u are town to make it, so why list you in it at all. It was pointless and extraneous.

Well, no it's not assuming I'm town. That's why there are scenarios with my name in them

The scenarios without Puns as Scum are where he is Town. It's pretty simple tbh

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

The scenarios without Puns as Scum are where he is Town. It's pretty simple tbh

Only thing pointing to two scum is Puns possibility of me and Sbell. Nothing else points to two scum. Thus, again, it is all extraneous. Lol. We gonna argue over this when you alrdy agreed earlier?

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turbopuns3 posted...

Well, no it's not assuming I'm town. That's why there are scenarios with my name in them

He has no reason to assume there is two scum unless you are town and me and Sbell are the two. You are making my head hurt arguing nonsense.

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Maybe choose your words better, then!

turbopuns3 posted...

Maybe choose your words better, then!

I did. This is all extraneous. You decided to argue nonsense for zero reason because apparently doing nothing all game is COOL and IN while also you waste time arguing over NOTHING instead of playing the game too!

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Actually you're just a trip.

What has there even been for me to do?

Scum was lynched day 1 and 2 without me. Every single player today wants to lynched red.

You're acting like I've been going around bragging about hip I am.

not a perfectly typed post

turbopuns3 posted...

What has there even been for me to do?

Scum was lynched day 1 and 2 without me. Every single player today wants to lynched red.

You're acting like I've been going around bragging about hip I am.

Read the game. Look for scum.

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##Vote: Red

Feel free to lynch me as I trust everyone besides Red and thus trust the total coverage plan and recognize that me or 5tar are the best lynches. But I really doubt 5tar is scum so I'd rather just do this.

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I think Star is more likely of Ben/Star so I'd still prefer that route to preserve the perfect game.

Admittedly the raw logic is basically identical for either though.

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Corrik, what do you want to do?

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So ben if red flips town, you think there's 1 scum left and it's definitely 5tarscream?

So if its puns and Ben they have to kill red, nk one of the confirmed. Frame me. Kill another confirmed. Right?

I'm struggling to see a way that a single scum remaining can win and thus why they havent forfeited.

Corrik/SBell probably the least likely.

Puns/ben
Puns/red
Puns/me

ben/red
ben/me

red/me.

I know Im average joe town vanilla Ben and puns are pushing for reds lynch.
I say we stay with Ben lynch because it covers 1 scum remaining route and it also covers most likely two man team too

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turbopuns3 posted...

So ben if red flips town, you think there's 1 scum left and it's definitely 5tarscream?

If so. Lynch me and leave claimed power.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik, what do you want to do?

Torn.

Ben sounds enticing but he has the Gravy nonsense.

5tar sounds enticing but he appeared to not be teamed with Mzero in my reads.

Red sounded very enticing but his claim fits.

Puns sounded enticing but he has a power claim and some tange nonsense.

Sbell sounded enticing but he has a supposed scan clearing him and some minor tange nonsense.

Han doesn't sound enticing.


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So, let's say this is super low power.

Red claims watcher based on the ninja on his team with 2-3 unclaimeds on the board. Hail Mary scenario? Possibly. Red also has fake claimed power as scum before.

You said, Han, you didn't think that IGCD would "troll" with a ninja that was really Vanilla.

Is a

Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
Gambler
Neighbor
Neighbor
Bodyguard
Parity Cop (weak cop)

Vs

Godfather
Ninja (uninformed Vanilla)
Blank

Balanced?

I mean, I am not sure a roleblocker may even exist.

Bodyguard needing a check doesn't really matter for a roleblocker in this game. Parity Cop is set up so that it may not get results before dying due to ramp up time.

Watcher is really the one role that seems strong for the game.

If Gambler sniped the Ninja day 1. It could be a wrap.

But, you said you didn't think IGCD would put a ninja in without it having a counter.


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Red likely would forfeit if he felt he couldn't win.

Puns, however, I blasted for being a piece of crap for rolling over in the other game. He might play it out just for his honor since I ripped him before.

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FWIW in the game where scum got flattened and I was scum with puns he was all for either wild claims or forfeiting

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Puns could be scum. That's actually who I'd go for if Red flipped Town. Though every time 5tar repeats that he's average joe town vanilla my urge to kill him does rise ~

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What if we no lynch?

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I guess that is a thing. Yeah

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6/1
No lynch
5/1

We don't gain a lynch by doing it but theoretically would gain info.


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...we'd have potentially one less day to figure the game out.

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Though I'd still vote Red over no lynch personally

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Of course if it is 2

5/2
4/2

Mylo


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I still feel the logical kill is me or Ben and I wasnt the one trying everything to save Tange and lynch Scare D1. If it has to be me then do be it

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No lynching might make red forfeit if he is scum. Stall the game out for 4 weeks. No Lynch til final 3. Then lynch red.

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Does a watcher see who visits you and a tracker sees who you visit?

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Corrik7 posted...

No lynching might make red forfeit if he is scum. Stall the game out for 4 weeks. No Lynch til final 3. Then lynch red.

The only fitting end to this slow ass game

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##vote: Star

Lack of people showing up is indeed pretty frustrating.

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Think you have to unvote Corrik before you vote me.
I hope red is scum because Ill never respect his town player again if he isnt

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I was pretty sure I did unvote.

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##unvote
##vote: star

i am pretty sure i did but whatever.

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Isn't the deadline in 8 minutes?

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Apparently deadline is 9:05pm EST for whatever reason. So 11 minutes.

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Votals?

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