Poll of the Day > My dad who has supported Trump for years is pissed at him

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TerranceC
04/03/20 6:21:17 PM
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Says he was too arrogant about coronavirus and now he is just trying to pass the buck and deny culpability.

Its funny because my dad always praised Trump because of the economy and because he started making more money at work, now his job site is infected with coronavirus and people all over the city are losing work and he turned on Trump so fast.

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RCtheWSBC
04/03/20 6:36:42 PM
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I suppose that's what it takes for some people: getting personally affected to understand the ramifications of actions.

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awezomerobot
04/03/20 6:39:09 PM
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Most people don't care what the President does till it starts affecting their wallet.

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SpeeDLeemon
04/03/20 6:55:58 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
I suppose that's what it takes for some people: getting personally affected to understand the ramifications of actions.
Yup. America.
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DPsx7
04/03/20 6:59:20 PM
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I doubt it's Trump's fault your store got infected.

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Mead
04/03/20 7:00:45 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
I doubt it's Trump's fault your store got infected.

he certainly contributed to the situation by disbanding the group that was literally keeping tabs on emerging viruses coming out of rural china

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captpackrat
04/03/20 8:50:37 PM
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zebatov
04/03/20 8:52:25 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
I suppose that's what it takes for some people: getting personally affected to understand the ramifications of actions.
Its really the only way people seem to learn.

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Mead
04/03/20 8:53:31 PM
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Reminds me of that woman that voted for trump and then was shocked and outraged when her husband who was undocumented got deported

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Entity13
04/04/20 12:23:57 AM
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zebatov posted...
Its really the only way people seem to learn.

For all of five minutes, and then it's back to the same ol' nonsense all over again.

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Ferarri619
04/04/20 12:48:07 AM
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captpackrat posted...

Lmao
I would vote for that party though.
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wwinterj25
04/04/20 1:01:39 AM
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I'm sure Trump cares what your dad thinks.

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Entity13
04/04/20 1:09:14 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I'm sure Trump cares what your dad thinks.

I mean, if it costs Trump the state on electoral votes, he'll care what said dad thinks just enough to blame Obama, and even then do it long enough to turn around and say he won anyway with the biggest, the most beatutiful margin you've ever seen.

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Zeus
04/04/20 1:09:38 AM
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No matter what, it was going to be a shitshow. Blaming it on Trump is just silly, especially considering that it's liberal areas -- places that don't like, trust, or listen to Trump -- that have been hit the hardest.

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tweetyweety
04/04/20 1:11:26 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I'm sure Trump cares what your dad thinks.

Trump talks almost constantly about his public image, so he does care... but only if it's positive.
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wwinterj25
04/04/20 1:12:38 AM
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tweetyweety posted...
Trump talks almost constantly about his public image, so he does care... but only if it's positive.
So.... he doesn't care then.

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darkknight109
04/04/20 1:38:17 AM
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Zeus posted...
Blaming it on Trump is just silly
Or it would be, if Democrats and his own advisors weren't sounding the alarm on this as early as last December. By mid-January, Chuck Schumer was asking Trump to declare a national health emergency and Democrat senators were writing Alex Azar and asking if the executive needed any additional funds or resources from congress. Both communications were apparently ignored, as no substantive changes in the administration's approach came from them.

Trump had three full months to prep for coronavirus and start getting the country ramped up to deal with the influx. Instead, terrified that the disease would hurt his re-election prospects, he spent his time going to rallies and playing golf, all while insisting the virus was nothing to worry about and the situation was well under control and people should just go about their lives and enjoy themselves. Only when the stock market completely crashed did Trump finally start taking it seriously, but by then it was too late - all of the lead time the US had was squandered, and it is now the worst-affected country on the planet.

Trump didn't create the virus and it spreading to US shores was inevitable, but he's done an excellent job in making sure that the US was as ill-prepared as it could possibly be and still manages to continue bungling the response (how many weeks did he wait to activate the DPA?).

Oh, and for an added kicker, his economic mismanagement is now biting him in the ass hard. Climbing out of the economic doldrums that the country is going to be mired in when the virus finally does subside is going to be extremely difficult, because Trump already turned the stimulus taps on full blast despite having inherited a roaring economy from the Obama administration. His tax cut has kneecapped federal earning power and the multi-trillion economic bailout is going to be tacked onto a deficit that was already on track to clear a trillion dollars a year this year. And given that taxpayer earnings are going to be shit this year - and, again, Trump has made this as painful as possible - the finances are going to take ANOTHER hit from tax revenue bottoming out, essentially bearing significant downward pressure from three different sources, all of which Trump had a hand in. And he can't even turn to most of the tried-and-true methods of stimulating growth, like lowering interest rates, because he was already doing that before this all hit.

Trump has managed this situation pretty much as badly as he possibly could have and it's laughable to suggest otherwise.

Zeus posted...
especially considering that it's liberal areas -- places that don't like, trust, or listen to Trump -- that have been hit the hardest.
Yeah, when you have the highest population and highest population densities, you get higher numbers of diseased people. What an incredible observation.

Worth noting, however, that when you adjust for population the picture becomes a lot more mixed. Top five states in cases per 100k residents are:

New York: 530
New Jersey: 337
Louisiana: 221
Massachusetts: 151
Michigan: 128

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BlueStormDragoN
04/04/20 2:21:46 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Or it would be, if Democrats and his own advisors weren't sounding the alarm on this as early as last December. By mid-January, Chuck Schumer was asking Trump to declare a national health emergency and Democrat senators were writing Alex Azar and asking if the executive needed any additional funds or resources from congress. Both communications were apparently ignored, as no substantive changes in the administration's approach came from them.

Trump had three full months to prep for coronavirus and start getting the country ramped up to deal with the influx. Instead, terrified that the disease would hurt his re-election prospects, he spent his time going to rallies and playing golf, all while insisting the virus was nothing to worry about and the situation was well under control and people should just go about their lives and enjoy themselves. Only when the stock market completely crashed did Trump finally start taking it seriously, but by then it was too late - all of the lead time the US had was squandered, and it is now the worst-affected country on the planet.

Trump didn't create the virus and it spreading to US shores was inevitable, but he's done an excellent job in making sure that the US was as ill-prepared as it could possibly be and still manages to continue bungling the response (how many weeks did he wait to activate the DPA?).

Oh, and for an added kicker, his economic mismanagement is now biting him in the ass hard. Climbing out of the economic doldrums that the country is going to be mired in when the virus finally does subside is going to be extremely difficult, because Trump already turned the stimulus taps on full blast despite having inherited a roaring economy from the Obama administration. His tax cut has kneecapped federal earning power and the multi-trillion economic bailout is going to be tacked onto a deficit that was already on track to clear a trillion dollars a year this year. And given that taxpayer earnings are going to be shit this year - and, again, Trump has made this as painful as possible - the finances are going to take ANOTHER hit from tax revenue bottoming out, essentially bearing significant downward pressure from three different sources, all of which Trump had a hand in. And he can't even turn to most of the tried-and-true methods of stimulating growth, like lowering interest rates, because he was already doing that before this all hit.

Trump has managed this situation pretty much as badly as he possibly could have and it's laughable to suggest otherwise.

Yeah, when you have the highest population and highest population densities, you get higher numbers of diseased people. What an incredible observation.

Worth noting, however, that when you adjust for population the picture becomes a lot more mixed. Top five states in cases per 100k residents are:

New York: 530
New Jersey: 337
Louisiana: 221
Massachusetts: 151
Michigan: 128

I agree!

Also, he now blames the impeachment for being the big distraction that prevented him from taking action on the virus.
Funny because I remember him stating on multiple occasions that he paid absolutely no mind to the process. He played gold and attended rallies enough times to prove he had plenty of free time and used none of it to prepare the country at all.

All the times he downplayed the virus and said the United States had nothing to worry about was sending a message a carelessness that really hurt the USA.

There was never going to be a way to stop this virus from spreading in the United States that is for sure, but the way Trump handled it turned the virus into a bigger issue than it should have been.

I'd wager that a big number of infection and death are directly linked with him. I'll also add that I think it was just stupidity and pride, rather than any malicious intent that caused him to bungle this crisis so badly. Then again, the drunk driver that kills a family of 5 in a car crash also had no intention of killing anyone.. he'll still face jail time and so would Trump, if the world was sane.

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JCvgluvr
04/04/20 2:28:36 AM
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Wish that had worked for my parents.

They still believe the exact same thing would have happened anyways, the democrats are to blame, and Trump is innocent, as always.

It seems like literally nothing will change the minds of republicans. And I say that as a centrist, by nature.

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Revelation34
04/04/20 3:13:38 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
as early as last December


Nobody was doing that.
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hypnox
04/04/20 3:18:44 AM
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I'm my experience the further right someone is, the less they care about personal rights unless it personally effects them.

I know a guy whose dad is 100% against abortion and wants planned parenthood shut down and all that. His son got someone pregnant and demanded he got an abortion. Few years later, he is back to wanting planned parenthood shut down and all that.

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Revelation34
04/04/20 3:40:41 AM
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hypnox posted...
His son got someone pregnant and demanded he got an abortion.


Did somebody tell him that's impossible?
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darkknight109
04/04/20 5:05:45 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Nobody was doing that.
The virus was first recorded in China in mid-November and was already showing signs of being a pandemic by mid-December. It was absolutely showing up on people's radar by that point.

Alex Azar himself claimed that the Trump administration has been monitoring the situation since December.

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hypnox
04/04/20 5:58:36 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Did somebody tell him that's impossible?

Pretty sure everyone but you understood what I said.

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Moratorium79
04/04/20 6:02:26 AM
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captpackrat posted...

This is one of the best things Ive seen lately. Thank you.

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PolloftheDay
04/04/20 6:27:21 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Lots of words
Imagine writing this much to respond to Zeus, who will just ignore it. He's not even going to post in this topic again until it hasn't been posted in for 5 days.
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Revelation34
04/04/20 6:27:58 AM
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hypnox posted...


Pretty sure everyone but you understood what I said.


That the dad told his son to get an abortion?
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TerranceC
04/04/20 9:16:37 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I'm sure Trump cares what your dad thinks.


hes literally a politician
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TerranceC
04/04/20 9:19:46 AM
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JCvgluvr posted...
Wish that had worked for my parents.

They still believe the exact same thing would have happened anyways, the democrats are to blame, and Trump is innocent, as always.

It seems like literally nothing will change the minds of republicans. And I say that as a centrist, by nature.


My dad is also a centrist, as am I.

Generally radical partisanship is one of the many indicators of lower intelligence.
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teddy241
04/04/20 9:37:14 AM
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He was grabbing em by the pussy since day 1, son.

Thats your leader. Good luck, hf, no bs, cheers!
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weeb98
04/04/20 9:40:48 AM
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My dad is still defending him.
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BlackScythe0
04/04/20 2:28:50 PM
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TerranceC posted...
Says he was too arrogant about coronavirus and now he is just trying to pass the buck and deny culpability.

Its funny because my dad always praised Trump because of the economy and because he started making more money at work, now his job site is infected with coronavirus and people all over the city are losing work and he turned on Trump so fast.

It wasn't that fast really. It was just last month when Trump was trying to fight tooth and nail against any efforts to deal with the virus.

It's unsurprising some people would turn on his mismanagement of the situation.

Most of his supporters however have a devotion to him that reaches the level of religious faith.
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Revelation34
04/04/20 3:40:45 PM
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TerranceC posted...


hes literally a politician


They only care what other politicians think.
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wwinterj25
04/04/20 4:42:30 PM
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TerranceC posted...
hes literally a politician
He literally doesn't give a fuck about a single individuals opinions that isn't important to him.

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darkknight109
04/04/20 5:00:18 PM
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PolloftheDay posted...
Imagine writing this much to respond to Zeus, who will just ignore it. He's not even going to post in this topic again until it hasn't been posted in for 5 days.
I still feel the need to set the record straight, less for Zeus's sake and more for anyone reading it.

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Muscles
04/04/20 5:52:33 PM
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Trump handled this very well given the circumstances but has been below average to terrible with everything else, seems like a bad time to turn on him just because you lost your job

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GanonsSpirit
04/04/20 7:20:01 PM
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Muscles posted...
Trump handled this very well given the circumstances but has been below average to terrible with everything else, seems like a bad time to turn on him just because you lost your job

You forgot your "I don't like Trump" disclaimer on this one.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/04/20 7:22:25 PM
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Muscles posted...
Trump handled this very well
low information voter!

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Mead
04/04/20 7:24:56 PM
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Muscles posted...
Trump handled this very well

what kinda backwards banana opinion is this

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Zikten
04/04/20 11:59:43 PM
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JCvgluvr posted...
Wish that had worked for my parents.

They still believe the exact same thing would have happened anyways, the democrats are to blame, and Trump is innocent, as always.

It seems like literally nothing will change the minds of republicans. And I say that as a centrist, by nature.
My dad still loves Trump too. He thinks Trump handled Covid perfectly
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wwinterj25
04/05/20 2:35:42 AM
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Muscles posted...
Trump handled this very well given the circumstances

The thing is folk who don't like him will shit on him no matter what. It's the same with Boris over here.

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BlackScythe0
04/05/20 10:28:18 AM
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Muscles posted...
Trump handled this very well

Convincing his base it's a hoax is good? Dafuq?

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Wanded
04/05/20 11:47:34 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Convincing his base it's a hoax is good? Dafuq?

Trump ordered everyone to social distance and to not go outside for weeks now, either people are listening to trump or not, you can't say people listen to him only when it's convinient to you.

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gguirao
04/05/20 1:22:34 PM
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Late realization is better than no realization.

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BlackScythe0
04/05/20 7:14:57 PM
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Wanded posted...
Trump ordered everyone to social distance and to not go outside for weeks now, either people are listening to trump or not, you can't say people listen to him only when it's convinient to you.

You only say what is convenient. People are aware he is being forced into saying things, and then he goes right back into "We need to open the country" over and over. People read into what he is "really saying". At least around here they do, because where I work is being slammed. We are far busier than normal and it's not essential business people are coming in for.

It's got me concerned.
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Yellow
04/05/20 7:21:20 PM
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Wanded posted...
Trump ordered everyone to social distance and to not go outside for weeks now, either people are listening to trump or not, you can't say people listen to him only when it's convinient to you.
Lol saddest defense force ever.

"Stop hitting me"

"I hit you last night, not tonight, way to blame me when it's convenient"

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BlackScythe0
04/05/20 7:23:38 PM
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Yellow posted...
Lol saddest defense force ever.

"Stop hitting me"

"I hit you last night, not tonight, way to blame me when it's convenient"
Kinda reminds me of this
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Yellow
04/05/20 7:23:44 PM
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Conservatives can't logically process the fact that Trump called the coronavirus a Democratic hoax.

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Revelation34
04/06/20 2:47:56 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...


You only say what is convenient. People are aware he is being forced into saying things, and then he goes right back into "We need to open the country" over and over. People read into what he is "really saying". At least around here they do, because where I work is being slammed. We are far busier than normal and it's not essential business people are coming in for.

It's got me concerned.


How's your tinfoil hat?
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BlackScythe0
04/06/20 9:43:22 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
How's your tinfoil hat?

Talking to people = tinfoil hat?

Odd world you live in.
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