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Joker_X_II
04/14/20 7:33:58 PM
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-says-us-will-stop-funding-world-health-organization-2020-04-14

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Zeus
04/14/20 7:44:55 PM
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Considering how the organization has been subverted by China (despite the US being the largest bankroller of the organization itself), it makes sense.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-chinas-increasing-global-power-could-influencing/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/china-coronavirus-who-health-soft-power/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/asia/coronavirus-who-china-intl-hnk/index.html

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shadowsword87
04/14/20 7:47:28 PM
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Zeus posted...
Considering how the organization has been subverted by China (despite the US being the largest bankroller of the organization itself), it makes sense.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-chinas-increasing-global-power-could-influencing/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/china-coronavirus-who-health-soft-power/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/asia/coronavirus-who-china-intl-hnk/index.html

So the argument is "If we can't control it, nobody can"?

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Wanded
04/14/20 7:48:14 PM
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Hallelujah

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Wanded
04/14/20 7:49:28 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
So the argument is "If we can't control it, nobody can"?
"if china controls it, we won't pay for it"

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Noop_Noop
04/14/20 7:54:59 PM
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You mean the CHO? Good.

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Zeus
04/14/20 7:55:45 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
So the argument is "If we can't control it, nobody can"?

No, the argument is "if the organization is being actively subverted by China, why should we pay for it?" The WHO has effectively acted as an extension of the CCP's propaganda wing and, by turning a blind eye at China's behest, actively played a role in the the spread of the C-Virus. And if the organization can't be trusted to do its job, why should we be throwing money at it instead of using those funds on an organization that actually does what the WHO was supposed to do?


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Yellow
04/14/20 7:56:26 PM
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xjayguyx
04/14/20 7:56:48 PM
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Good

The Timmy Liberal here in Canada won't defund the CHO, they listen to every word the CHO has to say. Ugh
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ScritchOwl
04/14/20 7:57:27 PM
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Wanded posted...
"if china controls it, we won't pay for it"
Or if a non white county controls it. Prety sure he would object the same if the based it in a african, muslim, or asian country lmeaning object to india, japan, south korea, or brazil he would throw a hissy fit. If it was based in europe with the exception of turkey or bosnia he probably wouldnt have a problem.


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xjayguyx
04/14/20 7:59:53 PM
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ScritchOwl posted...
Or if a non white county controls it. Prety sure he would object the same if the based it in a african, muslim, or asian country lmeaning object to india, japan, south korea, or brazil he would throw a hissy fit. If it was based in europe with the exception of turkey or bosnia he probably wouldnt have a problem.

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CaptainStrong
04/14/20 8:03:32 PM
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good. who the fuck needs health?
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ScritchOwl
04/14/20 8:05:40 PM
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I am basing it of his cronies. He has made "brown" people quotes before as a way to discribe non white but to be fair he did have lots of words for hillary who was a white woman.

https://gawker.com/the-collected-quotes-of-donald-trump-on-the-blacks-1719961925

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xjayguyx
04/14/20 8:06:47 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
good. who the fuck needs health?

You have no idea what's going on do you..?
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xjayguyx
04/14/20 8:07:25 PM
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ScritchOwl posted...
I am basing it of his cronies. He has made "brown" people quotes before as a way to discribe non white but to be fair he did have lots of words for hillary who was a white woman.

https://gawker.com/the-collected-quotes-of-donald-trump-on-the-blacks-1719961925

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ScritchOwl
04/14/20 8:12:03 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
Leftist
Wow such an insult. Doesn't matter if its right or wrong it matters if it goes against political lines. Somethings are black and white, sometimes grey others a full on rainbow but in the end somethings are just inexcusable.

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xjayguyx
04/14/20 8:16:50 PM
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ScritchOwl posted...
Wow such an insult. Doesn't matter if its right or wrong it matters if it goes against political lines. Somethings are black and white, sometimes grey others a full on rainbow but in the end somethings are just inexcusable.

So I guess you're not voting then? Because Biden sexually assaulted a former aide. And he clearly has no idea what's going on or even what day it is..
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ScritchOwl
04/14/20 8:26:22 PM
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Presidential elections for my district do not matter much. I focus on the local ballets. You k in ow the people who have to work more than two weeks out of the year. But yep your definitely right on biden eeesh

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CaptainStrong
04/14/20 8:27:22 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
You have no idea what's going on do you..?
i know exactly whats going on and i dont give a flying fuck
i agree with george carlin. i cheer on disasters
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ScritchOwl
04/14/20 8:31:20 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
So I guess you're not voting then? Because Biden sexually assaulted a former aide. And he clearly has no idea what's going on or even what day it is..
Dang right on that yeeeesh. However in the sake of fairness he is innocent until proven guilty. Just like micheal jackson but I definitely wouldnt trust him with my son or daughter

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Zeus
04/14/20 8:32:05 PM
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ScritchOwl posted...
Or if a non white county controls it. Prety sure he would object the same if the based it in a african, muslim, or asian country lmeaning object to india, japan, south korea, or brazil he would throw a hissy fit. If it was based in europe with the exception of turkey or bosnia he probably wouldnt have a problem.

ITP: The problem isn't that the WHO's leadership took the CCP's claims at face value and repeated them despite numerous warnings which ultimately helped the disease spread across the world, the problem is RACISM!

Granted, kinda says something about you that you're only willing to criticize majority-white nations.

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BeerOnTap
04/14/20 9:01:30 PM
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Wanded posted...
Hallelujah

Good! Seriously this is something we should all be able to agree on. We dont need to send money to an organization that was compromised by China (an objectively evil nation) and lied from the onset of this outbreak.
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JixHedgehog
04/14/20 9:12:07 PM
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xjayguyx
04/14/20 9:19:43 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Good! Seriously this is something we should all be able to agree on. We dont need to send money to an organization that was compromised by China (an objectively evil nation) and lied from the onset of this outbreak.

We should all understand this but unfortunately leftists brains don't work like that.. or at all much really.
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Judgmenl
04/14/20 9:34:58 PM
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Good.
They were very deceptive and were part of the problem with China hiding the dangers of the virus.

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Mead
04/14/20 9:42:22 PM
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Remember when Mike Pence got put in charge of the White House response to the coronavirus



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OhhhJa
04/14/20 9:54:53 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
We should all understand this but unfortunately leftists brains don't work like that.. or at all much really.
If there's one thing I've learned about never trumpers it's that they love an international organization regardless of corruption or competency
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faramir77
04/14/20 9:55:09 PM
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The WHO lost a lot of credibility with this. I can fully understand choosing to not continue funding it.

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Muscles
04/14/20 9:55:38 PM
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faramir77 posted...
The WHO lost a lot of credibility with this. I can fully understand choosing to not continue funding it.


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shadowsword87
04/14/20 10:46:46 PM
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Hey.
Uh.
He doesn't have the legal authority to do this.

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xjayguyx
04/14/20 10:47:32 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Hey.
Uh.
He doesn't have the legal authority to do this.

He should, the CHO is Chinese cover up trash.
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shadowsword87
04/14/20 10:48:44 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
He should, the CHO is Chinese cover up trash.

So every president should have the authority to fully manage the finances of the government?
From now on?

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adjl
04/14/20 11:03:22 PM
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Zeus posted...
And if the organization can't be trusted to do its job, why should we be throwing money at it instead of using those funds on an organization that actually does what the WHO was supposed to do?

And which other organization would that be? It's all well and good to say that the WHO isn't doing a good enough job and needs to be replaced, but without a suitable replacement, defunding the WHO during the midst of the worst global public health crisis in a century means there's no longer going to be an international organization capable of working to manage that crisis. This sort of move needs to be saved for a time when the headline can instead read "Trump spearheads international decision to divert funds from WHO to new global public health agency," and even then it really shouldn't happen until the crisis is better under control because of how disruptive that's going to be to the response. There's a time and a place for this, and this is neither.

Of course, because it's Trump, I'd be willing to wager that this move is less because of actual shortcomings in their handling of the crisis (since if he's genuinely looking to punish those that have failed to handle it well, he's got a little self-flagellation to look forward to), and more because they've been publicly contradicting him at pretty much every turn since this whole thing started, with their shortcomings being a convenient excuse. The man doesn't exactly handle being made to look wrong very well.

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shadowsword87
04/14/20 11:05:30 PM
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adjl posted...
And which other organization would that be? It's all well and good to say that the WHO isn't doing a good enough job and needs to be replaced, but without a suitable replacement, defunding the WHO during the midst of the worst global public health crisis in a century means there's no longer going to be an international organization capable of working to manage that crisis. This sort of move needs to be saved for a time when the headline can instead read "Trump spearheads international decision to divert funds from WHO to new global public health agency," and even then it really shouldn't happen until the crisis is better under control because of how disruptive that's going to be to the response. There's a time and a place for this, and this is neither.

Of course, because it's Trump, I'd be willing to wager that this move is less because of actual shortcomings in their handling of the crisis (since if he's genuinely looking to punish those that have failed to handle it well, he's got a little self-flagellation to look forward to), and more because they've been publicly contradicting him at pretty much every turn since this whole thing started, with their shortcomings being a convenient excuse. The man doesn't exactly handle being made to look wrong very well.

Anyway, new government mandate by trump is to lick the tongues of at least 10 strangers to "just get this all over with".

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SirPikachu
04/14/20 11:17:07 PM
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Awesome. The WHO fucking sucks and is responsible for this shit. Hope everyone else follows suit until the WHO gets some brand new people running it.

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Superlinkbro
04/14/20 11:51:02 PM
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Honestly a good decision considering how untrustworthy the WHO is.

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Krazy_Kirby
04/15/20 12:03:54 AM
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help american lives first.

you should prioritize your own before others
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xjayguyx
04/15/20 12:06:43 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
help american lives first.

you should prioritize your own before others

I wish the Liberals here in Canada understood this.. they actually gave China most if not all of our medical supplies like masks and stuff.. absolutely disgusting.
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faramir77
04/15/20 12:08:02 AM
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xjayguyx posted...
I wish the Liberals here in Canada understood this.. they actually gave China most if not all of our medical supplies like masks and stuff.. absolutely disgusting.

That's not even close to being true.

They sent a shipment of supplies at a time when Canada had little or no cases.

The shipment wasn't even a dent on our total supply.

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xjayguyx
04/15/20 12:25:42 AM
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faramir77 posted...
That's not even close to being true.

They sent a shipment of supplies at a time when Canada had little or no cases.

The shipment wasn't even a dent on our total supply.

Can you show me proof that it was a small amount givin to them? And even if that's true why give anything to China? Still a bad move overall.
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BlackScythe0
04/15/20 12:26:27 AM
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Trump is trying to make WHO take the fall for his failures.
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faramir77
04/15/20 12:32:12 AM
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-faces-criticism-for-sending-16-tonnes-of-personal-protective/

The goods Canada sent to China included 50,118 face shields, 1,101 masks, 1,820 pairs of goggles, 36,425 medical coveralls, 200,000 nitrile gloves and 3,000 aprons. The supplies were sourced by the Canadian Red Cross as well from as the government of Canadas supplies.

I agree that in retrospect it was a bad move, but it isn't likely going to make a noticeable difference in the long run. It's like not turning the shower on before evacuating a house fire.

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xjayguyx
04/15/20 12:32:55 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump is trying to make WHO take the fall for his failures.

Oh please...
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xjayguyx
04/15/20 12:35:13 AM
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faramir77 posted...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-faces-criticism-for-sending-16-tonnes-of-personal-protective/

I agree that in retrospect it was a bad move, but it isn't likely going to make a noticeable difference in the long run. It's like not turning the shower on before evacuating a house fire.

I don't trust the globe and mail but if that's true that's still a decent amount. Bad move is a bad move. I heard just today on the radio on my way to work that the government will be distributing medical supplies to provinces soon.. so ya iunno seems like they gave away a lot of our stock.
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Zeus
04/15/20 12:47:55 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump is trying to make WHO take the fall for his failures.

Because Trump failed to protect the world's health by taking the CCP at its word every step of the way -- despite testimony from China's doctors, experts, etc -- and ultimately ensured that the entire world was unprepared for the outbreak. You know, because Trump's responsibility is what the WHO is supposed to be doing.

adjl posted...
And which other organization would that be? It's all well and good to say that the WHO isn't doing a good enough job and needs to be replaced, but without a suitable replacement, defunding the WHO during the midst of the worst global public health crisis in a century means there's no longer going to be an international organization capable of working to manage that crisis. This sort of move needs to be saved for a time when the headline can instead read "Trump spearheads international decision to divert funds from WHO to new global public health agency," and even then it really shouldn't happen until the crisis is better under control because of how disruptive that's going to be to the response. There's a time and a place for this, and this is neither.

Of course, because it's Trump, I'd be willing to wager that this move is less because of actual shortcomings in their handling of the crisis (since if he's genuinely looking to punish those that have failed to handle it well, he's got a little self-flagellation to look forward to), and more because they've been publicly contradicting him at pretty much every turn since this whole thing started, with their shortcomings being a convenient excuse. The man doesn't exactly handle being made to look wrong very well.

You say that, but the WHO has ultimately done more harm than good during this crisis. Had the WHO been working properly, individual governments would have been much prepared so their systems wouldn't have been completely overrun.

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xjayguyx
04/15/20 1:00:18 AM
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Zeus posted...
Because Trump failed to protect the world's health by taking the CCP at its word every step of the way -- despite testimony from China's doctors, experts, etc -- and ultimately ensured that the entire world was unprepared for the outbreak. You know, because Trump's responsibility is what the WHO is supposed to be doing.

You say that, but the WHO has ultimately done more harm than good during this crisis. Had the WHO been working properly, individual governments would have been much prepared so their systems wouldn't have been completely overrun.

This is absolutely correct.
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streamofthesky
04/15/20 1:28:08 AM
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The Republican lockstep response is always chilling and surreal to behold. From Congress to state politicians to 24/7 news personalities (they're not anchors or reporters) to even internet trolls.... the second the president makes a major change, they are fucking on message.

Never saw anybody on PotD complain about the WHO before this. Now that Trump's defunded them, they're falling all over themselves to squawk about how bad the WHO supposedly has been for a long time now, and even all referring to it in unison as the "CHO"

It's like fucking robots...or maybe more like ants...that all have one hive mind and got the signal from home base.
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OhhhJa
04/15/20 1:48:44 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
The Republican lockstep response is always chilling and surreal to behold. From Congress to state politicians to 24/7 news personalities (they're not anchors or reporters) to even internet trolls.... the second the president makes a major change, they are fucking on message.

Never saw anybody on PotD complain about the WHO before this. Now that Trump's defunded them, they're falling all over themselves to squawk about how bad the WHO supposedly has been for a long time now, and even all referring to it in unison as the "CHO"

It's like fucking robots...or maybe more like ants...that all have one hive mind and got the signal from home base.
Where have you been? People have been complaining about the WHO for a while now. I've been hoping he would since the idea was tabled
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xjayguyx
04/15/20 1:52:04 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Where have you been? People have been complaining about the WHO for a while now. I've been hoping he would since the idea was tabled

He's clearly been under a rock lol.
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