Poll of the Day > Who wins in a fight: adult Link (OoT), or Cloud (FFVII)?

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Zeus 04/25/20 9:40:41 PM #51:	LinkPizza posted... IIRC, The Hero of Winds wasn't chosen exactly. He just found the triforce to basically make them choose him or something... He just wanted to get his sister back... That's not OoT, though. mooreandrew58 posted... It doesnt apply here but i hate fight debates that dont take personality and or character flaws into account. The mention of rules made me think that. Like the reason batman can beat superman is because superman isnt willing to go all out against even villains let alone batman. That and Superman has established weaknesses that allow him to be defeated pretty easily under certain circumstances. Not everything is because he feels like lives in a world made of cardboard. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:938093086] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>IIRC, The Hero of Winds wasn't chosen exactly. He just found the triforce to basically make them choose him or something... He just wanted to get his sister back...</quote> That's not OoT, though. mooreandrew58 posted... </cite> <quote>It doesnt apply here but i hate fight debates that dont take personality and or character flaws into account. The mention of rules made me think that. Like the reason batman can beat superman is because superman isnt willing to go all out against even villains let alone batman.</quote> That and Superman has established weaknesses that allow him to be defeated pretty easily under certain circumstances. Not everything is because he feels like lives in a world made of cardboard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 04/25/20 9:43:55 PM #52:	Zeus posted... That's not OoT, though. That and Superman has established weaknesses that allow him to be defeated pretty easily under certain circumstances. Not everything is because he feels like lives in a world made of cardboard. Well yeah batman needs his weakness but even with it if superman wanted him dead he could kill him before the krptonite dropped him. Hell ranged attack with heat vision. So bats does rely on supermans reluctance to kill in a straight up fight. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:938093237] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>That's not OoT, though. That and Superman has established weaknesses that allow him to be defeated pretty easily under certain circumstances. Not everything is because he feels like lives in a world made of cardboard.</quote> Well yeah batman needs his weakness but even with it if superman wanted him dead he could kill him before the krptonite dropped him. Hell ranged attack with heat vision. So bats does rely on supermans reluctance to kill in a straight up fight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whargarble 04/25/20 9:59:27 PM #53:	People like to bring up the OP equipment and magic Link has access to as though Cloud can't get to the point in FF7 where he can summon exploding comets and meteors, heal himself instantly with magic, revive himself in firey explosions (final attack phoenix), summon monsters strong enough to murder gods, and buff himself to the point where he can tank hits from physical gods. Seriously, it's possible to get idiotically overpowered in FF7. And if Link has an inventory full of fairies and blue potions, Cloud has a 99 Elixers and enough HP to survive the sun exploding in his face. --- Welcome to Weebfaqs. Leave your opinions at the door. <cite>Whargarble posted [p:938093911] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>People like to bring up the OP equipment and magic Link has access to as though Cloud can't get to the point in FF7 where he can summon exploding comets and meteors, heal himself instantly with magic, revive himself in firey explosions (final attack phoenix), summon monsters strong enough to murder gods, and buff himself to the point where he can tank hits from physical gods. Seriously, it's possible to get idiotically overpowered in FF7. And if Link has an inventory full of fairies and blue potions, Cloud has a 99 Elixers and enough HP to survive the sun exploding in his face. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 04/25/20 10:01:49 PM #54:	Whargarble posted... People like to bring up the OP equipment and magic Link has access to as though Cloud can't get to the point in FF7 where he can summon exploding comets and meteors, heal himself instantly with magic, revive himself in firey explosions (final attack phoenix), summon monsters strong enough to murder gods, and buff himself to the point where he can tank hits from physical gods. Seriously, it's possible to get idiotically overpowered in FF7. And if Link has an inventory full of fairies and blue potions, Cloud has a 99 Elixers and enough HP to survive the sun exploding in his face. It's because we're on Nintendofaqs. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:938094013] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Whargarble posted...</cite> <quote>People like to bring up the OP equipment and magic Link has access to as though Cloud can't get to the point in FF7 where he can summon exploding comets and meteors, heal himself instantly with magic, revive himself in firey explosions (final attack phoenix), summon monsters strong enough to murder gods, and buff himself to the point where he can tank hits from physical gods. Seriously, it's possible to get idiotically overpowered in FF7. And if Link has an inventory full of fairies and blue potions, Cloud has a 99 Elixers and enough HP to survive the sun exploding in his face. </quote> It's because we're on Nintendofaqs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EclairReturns 04/25/20 10:04:23 PM #55:	Whargarble posted... survive the sun exploding in his face That attack is designed so that it never puts anyone out of commission, though. --- Number XII: Larxene. The Organization's Savage Nymph. <cite>EclairReturns posted [p:938094151] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Whargarble posted...</cite> <quote>survive the sun exploding in his face</quote> That attack is designed so that it never puts anyone out of commission, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrCidd 04/25/20 11:50:44 PM #56:	For what it's worth. I generally hate these kinds of arguments because it's usually just a big circle jerk of fanboys. But I guess I'll weigh in anyways. As a huge fan of zelda since the very beginning. Link could never win this fight. Cloud has a larger back of tricks to pull from. He can heal more than 4 times. His auto-revive works 5 times and damages his opponent. He can drain Link's magic meter. He can double his offense and defense through consuming hero drinks. He can further boost his defense with barrier and mbarrier. It's not "invincible" but it's about 75% reduction. Then there's the question of...is Link susceptible to status effects? Poison? Slow? Stop? Toad? Mini? What about gravity based damage? I mean...the odds are stacked against Link. --- I used to think my brain was my favorite part of my body...Then I realized what was making me think that! <cite>DrCidd posted [p:938099109] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>For what it's worth. I generally hate these kinds of arguments because it's usually just a big circle jerk of fanboys. But I guess I'll weigh in anyways. As a huge fan of zelda since the very beginning. Link could never win this fight. Cloud has a larger back of tricks to pull from. He can heal more than 4 times. His auto-revive works 5 times and damages his opponent. He can drain Link's magic meter. He can double his offense and defense through consuming hero drinks. He can further boost his defense with barrier and mbarrier. It's not "invincible" but it's about 75% reduction. Then there's the question of...is Link susceptible to status effects? Poison? Slow? Stop? Toad? Mini? What about gravity based damage? I mean...the odds are stacked against Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 04/27/20 2:12:54 PM #57:	mooreandrew58 posted... if superman wanted him dead he could kill him before the krptonite dropped him. Hell ranged attack with heat vision. So bats does rely on supermans reluctance to kill in a straight up fight. He really couldn't. You're assuming that Batman would just stand there holding a chunk of Kryptonite. Superman would almost certainly be under its effects before he realized Batman had a piece of it. And if Batman actually wanted to kill Superman, then Superman would be dead right at the start of the fight. Whargarble posted... People like to bring up the OP equipment and magic Link has access to as though Cloud can't get to the point in FF7 where he can summon exploding comets and meteors, heal himself instantly with magic, revive himself in firey explosions (final attack phoenix), summon monsters strong enough to murder gods, and buff himself to the point where he can tank hits from physical gods. Seriously, it's possible to get idiotically overpowered in FF7. And if Link has an inventory full of fairies and blue potions, Cloud has a 99 Elixers and enough HP to survive the sun exploding in his face. But Link has the power of destiny, Cloud does not. Plus effects like those comets and meteor are easily survived within the context of FFVII, making them less impressive than their real world equivalents. In the context of a world where people have that level of power, Link certainly would as well. However, Link is a chosen one whereas Cloud is not. Link would win by default. It's not so much that the battle is merely in Link's favor, it's simply that he would win because he's a chosen one and Cloud is not. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:938186044] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted... </cite> <quote>if superman wanted him dead he could kill him before the krptonite dropped him. Hell ranged attack with heat vision. So bats does rely on supermans reluctance to kill in a straight up fight.</quote> He really couldn't. You're assuming that Batman would just stand there holding a chunk of Kryptonite. Superman would almost certainly be under its effects before he realized Batman had a piece of it. And if Batman actually wanted to kill Superman, then Superman would be dead right at the start of the fight. Whargarble posted... </cite> <quote>People like to bring up the OP equipment and magic Link has access to as though Cloud can't get to the point in FF7 where he can summon exploding comets and meteors, heal himself instantly with magic, revive himself in firey explosions (final attack phoenix), summon monsters strong enough to murder gods, and buff himself to the point where he can tank hits from physical gods. Seriously, it's possible to get idiotically overpowered in FF7. And if Link has an inventory full of fairies and blue potions, Cloud has a 99 Elixers and enough HP to survive the sun exploding in his face.</quote> But Link has the power of destiny, Cloud does not. Plus effects like those comets and meteor are easily survived within the context of FFVII, making them less impressive than their real world equivalents. In the context of a world where people have that level of power, Link certainly would as well. However, Link is a chosen one whereas Cloud is not. Link would win by default. It's not so much that the battle is merely in Link's favor, it's simply that he would win because he's a chosen one and Cloud is not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 04/27/20 4:17:49 PM #58:	Zeus posted... He really couldn't. You're assuming that Batman would just stand there holding a chunk of Kryptonite. Superman would almost certainly be under its effects before he realized Batman had a piece of it. And if Batman actually wanted to kill Superman, then Superman would be dead right at the start of the fight Im operating under the assumption the fight has begun before batman can pull out kryptonite. Yes if batman gets a preemptive strike he holds the advantage. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:938193836] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>He really couldn't. You're assuming that Batman would just stand there holding a chunk of Kryptonite. Superman would almost certainly be under its effects before he realized Batman had a piece of it. And if Batman actually wanted to kill Superman, then Superman would be dead right at the start of the fight</quote> Im operating under the assumption the fight has begun before batman can pull out kryptonite. Yes if batman gets a preemptive strike he holds the advantage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 04/27/20 5:52:33 PM #59:	mooreandrew58 posted... Death battle covered this and link won. Though i disagree with the results because one of the reasons link won was because they said his shield was unbreakable which I dont think ia official lore, more that theyve just never had shields breaking as a game mechanic till botw. I think the auto revive fairies is what truly one him thr battle in their minds though since he can carry 4 of them in OoT (which i believe was the version of link they used) Which would be countered with Final Attack+Revive and then another Final Attack+Phoenix. <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:938199565] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted... </cite> <quote>Death battle covered this and link won. Though i disagree with the results because one of the reasons link won was because they said his shield was unbreakable which I dont think ia official lore, more that theyve just never had shields breaking as a game mechanic till botw. I think the auto revive fairies is what truly one him thr battle in their minds though since he can carry 4 of them in OoT (which i believe was the version of link they used)</quote>Which would be countered with Final Attack+Revive and then another Final Attack+Phoenix. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 04/27/20 5:53:55 PM #60:	mooreandrew58 posted... Im operating under the assumption the fight has begun before batman can pull out kryptonite. Yes if batman gets a preemptive strike he holds the advantage. If Batman was using a kryptonite-based weapon, it wouldn't just be a piece of kryptonite. And when people say Batman with planning can beat anybody, it means he's prepared for the battle beforehand and rigged the field. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:938199639] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted... </cite> <quote>Im operating under the assumption the fight has begun before batman can pull out kryptonite. Yes if batman gets a preemptive strike he holds the advantage.</quote> If Batman was using a kryptonite-based weapon, it wouldn't just be a piece of kryptonite. And when people say Batman with planning can beat anybody, it means he's prepared for the battle beforehand and rigged the field. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 04/27/20 5:55:01 PM #61:	Zeus posted... He really couldn't. You're assuming that Batman would just stand there holding a chunk of Kryptonite. Superman would almost certainly be under its effects before he realized Batman had a piece of it. And if Batman actually wanted to kill Superman, then Superman would be dead right at the start of the fight. But Link has the power of destiny, Cloud does not. Plus effects like those comets and meteor are easily survived within the context of FFVII, making them less impressive than their real world equivalents. In the context of a world where people have that level of power, Link certainly would as well. However, Link is a chosen one whereas Cloud is not. Link would win by default. It's not so much that the battle is merely in Link's favor, it's simply that he would win because he's a chosen one and Cloud is not. Being the chosen one doesn't grant you any statistical benefits. It just means you have a shitty destiny that you can't fight. <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:938199717] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>He really couldn't. You're assuming that Batman would just stand there holding a chunk of Kryptonite. Superman would almost certainly be under its effects before he realized Batman had a piece of it. And if Batman actually wanted to kill Superman, then Superman would be dead right at the start of the fight. But Link has the power of destiny, Cloud does not. Plus effects like those comets and meteor are easily survived within the context of FFVII, making them less impressive than their real world equivalents. In the context of a world where people have that level of power, Link certainly would as well. However, Link is a chosen one whereas Cloud is not. Link would win by default. It's not so much that the battle is merely in Link's favor, it's simply that he would win because he's a chosen one and Cloud is not.</quote>Being the chosen one doesn't grant you any statistical benefits. It just means you have a shitty destiny that you can't fight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/27/20 8:27:35 PM #62:	Zeus posted... If Batman was using a kryptonite-based weapon, it wouldn't just be a piece of kryptonite. And when people say Batman with planning can beat anybody, it means he's prepared for the battle beforehand and rigged the field. Batman can't beat everybody even with planning. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:938208267] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> If Batman was using a kryptonite-based weapon, it wouldn't just be a piece of kryptonite. And when people say Batman with planning can beat anybody, it means he's prepared for the battle beforehand and rigged the field. </quote> Batman can't beat everybody even with planning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 04/27/20 8:39:15 PM #63:	--- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:938208952] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/27/20 8:39:56 PM #64:	Metalsonic66 posted... He's serious. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:938208988] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote> </quote> He's serious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whargarble 04/27/20 10:43:35 PM #65:	Zeus posted... Link has the power of destiny, Cloud does not. Link is a chosen one whereas Cloud is not. Link would win by default. It's not so much that the battle is merely in Link's favor, it's simply that he would win because he's a chosen one and Cloud is not. There is literally a canon Zelda timeline where OoT Link dies in his final battle against Ganon. You are talking out your ass. --- Welcome to Weebfaqs. Leave your opinions at the door. <cite>Whargarble posted [p:938215604] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Link has the power of destiny, Cloud does not. Link is a chosen one whereas Cloud is not. Link would win by default. It's not so much that the battle is merely in Link's favor, it's simply that he would win because he's a chosen one and Cloud is not.</quote>There is literally a canon Zelda timeline where OoT Link dies in his final battle against Ganon. You are talking out your ass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/27/20 11:08:28 PM #66:	How would Link lose to some pig? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:938216966] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>How would Link lose to some pig?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 04/28/20 6:34:27 AM #67:	Zeus posted... If Batman was using a kryptonite-based weapon, it wouldn't just be a piece of kryptonite. And when people say Batman with planning can beat anybody, it means he's prepared for the battle beforehand and rigged the field. I was also operating under the assumption its just his normal gear which usually has 1 kryptonite ring in his utility belt that superman himself gave him. Like the assumption is its a unplanned fight one attacks the other without forewarning. Basically between them two its a case of who attacks first should win if thr other aint expecting it. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:938230596] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>If Batman was using a kryptonite-based weapon, it wouldn't just be a piece of kryptonite. And when people say Batman with planning can beat anybody, it means he's prepared for the battle beforehand and rigged the field.</quote> I was also operating under the assumption its just his normal gear which usually has 1 kryptonite ring in his utility belt that superman himself gave him. Like the assumption is its a unplanned fight one attacks the other without forewarning. Basically between them two its a case of who attacks first should win if thr other aint expecting it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/01/20 3:29:01 PM #68:	Arcturusisnow posted... Being the chosen one doesn't grant you any statistical benefits. It just means you have a shitty destiny that you can't fight. It grants you the statistical benefit of winning 100% of the time. Whargarble posted... There is literally a canon Zelda timeline where OoT Link dies in his final battle against Ganon. You are talking out your ass. You mean like how DB GT is canon? Oh wait... --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:938438067] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Arcturusisnow posted... </cite> <quote>Being the chosen one doesn't grant you any statistical benefits. It just means you have a shitty destiny that you can't fight.</quote> It grants you the statistical benefit of winning 100% of the time. Whargarble posted... </cite> <quote>There is literally a canon Zelda timeline where OoT Link dies in his final battle against Ganon. You are talking out your ass.</quote> You mean like how DB GT is canon? Oh wait... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/01/20 3:57:36 PM #69:	Zeus posted... It grants you the statistical benefit of winning 100% of the time. You mean like how DB GT is canon? Oh wait... GT was never canon though. Just some idiots thinking it was. They were the minority. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:938439582] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> It grants you the statistical benefit of winning 100% of the time. You mean like how DB GT is canon? Oh wait... </quote> GT was never canon though. Just some idiots thinking it was. They were the minority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/01/20 4:46:58 PM #70:	Revelation34 posted... GT was never canon though. Just some idiots thinking it was. They were the minority. It was "canon" in pretty much the same way. Actually, no, GT was much canonical than this since GT was an actual continuation in the same media whereas the "timeline" was never directly supported in any game and is, as Nintendo employees themselves admit, "flexible and open to change" --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:938442146] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>GT was never canon though. Just some idiots thinking it was. They were the minority.</quote> It was "canon" in pretty much the same way. Actually, no, GT was much canonical than this since GT was an actual continuation in the same media whereas the "timeline" was never directly supported in any game and is, as Nintendo employees themselves admit, "flexible and open to change" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/01/20 8:37:43 PM #71:	Zeus posted... It was "canon" in pretty much the same way. Actually, no, GT was much canonical than this since GT was an actual continuation in the same media whereas the "timeline" was never directly supported in any game and is, as Nintendo employees themselves admit, "flexible and open to change" The original creator didn't do it so it wasn't canon. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:938454204] in Who wins i... [t:78621349]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> It was "canon" in pretty much the same way. Actually, no, GT was much canonical than this since GT was an actual continuation in the same media whereas the "timeline" was never directly supported in any game and is, as Nintendo employees themselves admit, "flexible and open to change" </quote> The original creator didn't do it so it wasn't canon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > Who wins in a fight: adult Link (OoT), or Cloud (FFVII)?