Board 8 > Imagine you're running for President of the United States

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Imagine you are somehow a serious candidate for President of the United States - one who warrants serious vetting. Given your past history, life choices, relationships, and the way you have treated others (specifically those people you may be sexually attracted to), do you think there's any chance that one or more of those people may make sincere, public claims of sexual impropriety against you? These claims may range from physical sexual assault to non-physical harassment... obviously depending on the actual choices you've made in the past.

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Unless you have never had sexual contact with anyone, the right answer for everyone is 2

EDIT: (Unless its 3 or 4 <_<)
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I think there'd just be evidence of me being a sexual weirdo and I've ruled out ever running for office because of that.

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Where is the option for politically motivated swiftboating from people one has never met?

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red sox 777 posted...

Where is the option for politically motivated swiftboating from people one has never met?

I'm asking if you think anyone in your life may come forward against you with sincere claims of sexual impropriety, regardless as to whether you personally feel you acted inappropriately or not. Please don't derail the topic.

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

I'm asking if you think anyone in your life may come forward against you with sincere claims of sexual impropriety, regardless as to whether you personally feel you acted inappropriately or not. Please don't derail the topic.

I voted the top option assuming that interpretation.

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I said some stuff in elementary school. It would get brought up.

I think it's fairly unlikely up to this point that anyone would accuse me of sexual assault, but I have an active and weird sex life that would pretty well prevent me from running for any sort of office in the foreseeable future if it got out.

No but I think being a furry would complicate my prospects

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Esuriat posted...

No but I think being a furry would complicate my prospects

"President Esuriat today took part in the traditional Thanksgiving ceremony of pardonning a turkey. There's still no word about whether the turkey will be reciprocating by dropping the charges she made against the President"
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BlackMageJawa posted...

"President Esuriat today took part in the traditional Thanksgiving ceremony of pardonning a turkey. There's still no word about whether the turkey will be reciprocating by dropping the charges she made against the President"

A+

finally, my long history of being super shy and avoidant with romance pays off!!

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No but the internet keeps enough records I'm sure someone would turn up something weird enough to DQ me.

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So after 52 votes, about 55% of Board 8 feels that there is no way they have ever interacted with someone in any way that the other person may have felt was sexually inappropriate.

I'm not shitposting, I'm not trolling, and I'm not judging (ok, maybe I am judging and I'm sorry for that), but I'm honestly disappointed in the board because based on these results, I feel there's a discouraging lack of introspection at play here.

Jakyl25 posted...

Unless you have never had sexual contact with anyone, the right answer for everyone is 2

EDIT: (Unless its 3 or 4 <_<)

I agree, but apparently that's not the case for us.

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alternatively this board is just that void of sexual contact.

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And to expand - I understand that this is a community with a relatively high percentage of introverts and people fairly inexperienced with sex or flirtation, but even when considering that, I'm surprised and disappointed by these results.

60% of us (through 57 votes) are completely confident we have never interacted with someone in a way that could have possibly caused that person to feel sexually uncomfortable. This is opening my eyes a bit as to how difficult a time we may have being honest with ourselves with stuff like this.

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

And to expand - I understand that this is a community with a relatively high percentage of introverts and people fairly inexperienced with sex or flirtation, but even when considering that, I'm surprised and disappointed by these results.

60% of us (through 57 votes) are completely confident we have never interacted with someone in a way that could have possibly caused that person to feel sexually uncomfortable. This is opening my eyes a bit as to how difficult a time we may have being honest with ourselves with stuff like this.

How many partners do you expect people to have had? I think that's a perfectly reasonable confidence level for people who never have sexual interactions except with people they have close relationships with, who they know well.

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Also, "could have made someone feel uncomfortable" was not the question. The question was about someone going public with claims of sexual impropriety. I think I read that as not counting, for instance, Joe Biden giving shoulder rubs.

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The answer choices attempt to introduce some nuance into why someone thinks there's no chance, a negligible chance, a realistic chance, or a very likely chance that someone else may come forward. If I did not introduce enough nuance (or if it's just garbage quality), then my bad.

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No, your take is correct. A very large % of board 8 users completely lack any self awareness. Especially so in the case where they view themselves as incapable of having done anything wrong.

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I've got CALENDARS. Every day says "I didn't rape anyone" and they're from back in high school so you know they're legit.

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I have plenty but they wouldn't come forward for fear of propelling me even further into a landslide victory

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other b8ers: foolmo isn't funny

foolmo:

foolm0r0n posted...

I have plenty but they wouldn't come forward for fear of propelling me even further into a landslide victory

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I've had no such relationships or anything close, but I did get a LinkedIn message from an apparent male friend of a girl at work who claims that she went to HR to get me to stop harassing her but they didn't do anything, and he told me to never talk to her ever again.

All I did was greet her every other day or so and asked her how she was. <_<

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so the big thing people probably underestimate is "sexually harass."

a lot of awkward tendencies can fall under that in the wrong light, especially when younger and you're just trying to figure out how to attract/be attractive. even more so when you're trying to get closer to someone.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Unless you have never had sexual contact with anyone, the right answer for everyone is 2

This sounds like a problem. Our rules for how to behave shouldn't be this ambiguous.

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pjbasis posted...

This sounds like a problem. Our rules for how to behave shouldn't be this ambiguous.

which is part of why I'm waiting until I get married
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Wanglicious posted...

so the big thing people probably underestimate is "sexually harass."

a lot of awkward tendencies can fall under that in the wrong light, especially when younger and you're just trying to figure out how to attract/be attractive. even more so when you're trying to get closer to someone.

Pretty much this. I taught in a Catholic high school for two years. The girls well all convinced I was creepy and looking up their skirts for some reason. I'm honestly not sure what I was doing to earn that reputation.

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Uh I hope you weren't trying to attract/ be attractive for students.

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No. There's the potential to be attracted to students because 17yo girls are usually fully developed, but I would never do anything to act on this, and I certainly would not be flirting or encouraging them. But if a girl is convinced I was taking advantage of my position from the front of the room to look up her skirt, what can I say to the contrary?

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pjbasis posted...

This sounds like a problem. Our rules for how to behave shouldn't be this ambiguous.

I don't know how old you are but there was once a time where the place you learned about consent was your 5 best male friends

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azuarc posted...

No. There's the potential to be attracted to students because 17yo girls are usually fully developed, but I would never do anything to act on this, and I certainly would not be flirting or encouraging them. But if a girl is convinced I was taking advantage of my position from the front of the room to look up her skirt, what can I say to the contrary?

I mean you've literally made topics about how hard you jerked it to high school girls

your party is going to be making some large donations to gmun's illicit gamefaqs logging site

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is this topic a really roundabout way to imply the allegations against Biden are false?

cuz fuck that

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DeepsPraw posted...

is this topic a really roundabout way to imply the allegations against Biden are false?

cuz fuck that

What? Not at all, jeez.

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It's pretty telling that the only people that are even entertaining these insane out of left field accusations are buttfurious Bernie bros.

Noone is saying to not investigate the accusations, or follow the criminal justice processes. What people are saying is that nothing about that situation passes any kind of logic, and smells of a desparate ploy for Bernie bros to try to undermine democratic processes.

It shows a startling lack of critical thinking skills if you think the accusations are actually true, and you aren't just pretending to believe it to service your political bullshit

startling lack of critical thinking

White_Turtle posted...


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CaptainOfCrush posted...

And to expand - I understand that this is a community with a relatively high percentage of introverts and people fairly inexperienced with sex or flirtation, but even when considering that, I'm surprised and disappointed by these results.

60% of us (through 57 votes) are completely confident we have never interacted with someone in a way that could have possibly caused that person to feel sexually uncomfortable. This is opening my eyes a bit as to how difficult a time we may have being honest with ourselves with stuff like this.

Or maybe we were just raised not to be rapists? Perhaps we made a point not to touch someone if they didn't want to be touched?

I mean unless you want to count "Kid too young to understand anything about sex who ran through the house naked or some other thing that would be considered sexual harassment if done by an adult" at which point I need to publicly apologize to my parents for probably pulling an R Kelly on them before I was potty trained.

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azuarc posted...

No. There's the potential to be attracted to students because 17yo girls are usually fully developed,

This being the start of your post feels problematic.

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Dark Young Link posted...

Or maybe we were just raised not to be rapists? Perhaps we made a point not to touch someone if they didn't want to be touched?

Sexual harassment is not exclusively physical in nature.

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It's not.

But looking at the results and going "Board 8 must be bad at self reflection"... why are you making such assumptions? Why do you assume a majority of people had to have done something inappropriate?


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Dark Young Link posted...

Why do you assume a majority of people had to have done something inappropriate?

That's not the point.

The question just says that as long as one person can interpret your actions as inappropriate, it would count.

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pjbasis posted...

The question just says that as long as one person can interpret your actions as inappropriate, it would count.

Pretty much. As we've already discussed to an extent, someone can select Option 2 without being a bad person. It's not really meant to assess your character, but whether you can acknowledge that some time during your life, you may have said something which made someone feel sexually uncomfortable.

And yet, more than half the voters (it was 60% earlier) are resolute in their assertion that no way could that EVER have happened.

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I feel like Yoblazer not buying the data is more reflective of his perspective (and whatever comes with it), but maybe that's just my judgment on his perspective.

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pjbasis posted...

The question just says that as long as one person can interpret your actions as inappropriate, it would count.

Then yeah, humanity as a whole falls under that.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

whether you can acknowledge that some time during your life, you may have said something which made someone feel sexually uncomfortable.

Maybe. Of course that's rather vague because "Not being attractive enough for the cheerleader's taste" could technically fall under "sexually uncomfortable", and being a dorky teenager shouldn't be held against anyone.

At some point in your existence, someone didn't like something you did. Okay so, where do we go from there?

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pjbasis posted...

That's not the point.

The question just says that as long as one person can interpret your actions as inappropriate, it would count.

There's some more stupidity

So we should throw the entire concept of laws out the window because someone wants their 15 minutes of fame and feels guilty about sucking a famous person's dick years later?

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Dark Young Link posted...

Or maybe we were just raised not to be rapists? Perhaps we made a point not to touch someone if they didn't want to be touched?

I mean unless you want to count "Kid too young to understand anything about sex who ran through the house naked or some other thing that would be considered sexual harassment if done by an adult" at which point I need to publicly apologize to my parents for probably pulling an R Kelly on them before I was potty trained.

Here's the problem with this line of thinking, it directly contradicts itself with the concept of "removing consent" after the fact, which most of the SJW mouthbreathers are openly supporting. It also stretches to situations where a woman will use sex as a tool (say to get a job, or just to say they had sex with someone famous) who then after the fact claim they were "coerced" into it.

It's people like you that make it difficult for actual victims of sexual assault to get justice. Or have none of you people ever heard of "the boy who cried wolf"?

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Like, people that are supporting wild unfounded claims of assault to smear someone in the court of public opinion are doing it for 1 of 2 reasons:

• Bernie bros that want to circumvent the due process of the primary elections to push an unpopular candidate over the one the people actually voted for
• People that value the "dopamine hit" they get for being "woke" on social media over the lives of actual abuse victims.

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Here's the problem with this line of thinking, it directly contradicts itself with the concept of "removing consent" after the fact, which most of the SJW mouthbreathers are openly supporting. It also stretches to situations where a woman will use sex as a tool (say to get a job, or just to say they had sex with someone famous) who then after the fact claim they were "coerced" into it.

It's people like you that make it difficult for actual victims of sexual assault to get justice. Or have none of you people ever heard of "the boy who cried wolf"?

I really hate that I've lost the ability to tell if someone is serious or not.

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Pretty much. As we've already discussed to an extent, someone can select Option 2 without being a bad person. It's not really meant to assess your character, but whether you can acknowledge that some time during your life, you may have said something which made someone feel sexually uncomfortable.

And yet, more than half the voters (it was 60% earlier) are resolute in their assertion that no way could that EVER have happened.

No, I think the question is not asking whether someone could feel you made them uncomfortable. It's asking if you think anyone has actually felt uncomfortable. For people who do not engage in casual hookups, they are generally pretty sensitive to how the other person feels. And in answering this question, people have the advantage of answering after the fact based on their feeling for how other people felt.

As for people one meets in passing, since it was specifically stated that any accusations would have to be sincere - people understand that making an accusation like this is a serious thing, and they are unlikely to do it over behavior that they did not feel was serious. So I think it's unlikely for any sincere accusations to come from people one met in passing.

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As for selecting option 2 and being a bad person, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it's sounding like someone who selects this is going through life indifferent to how others feel. Because you aren't bothering to see how others feel. That's not good in my book.

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