Poll of the Day > age of ultron is one of the better marvel movies

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Bulbasaur 05/15/20 3:22:43 AM #1:	it really is --- plop <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:939183083] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>it really is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 05/15/20 5:02:14 AM #2:	Idk why people hate it so much. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:939184872] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Idk why people hate it so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 05/15/20 5:11:47 AM #3:	I don't know if I could say it's "one of the better", but it's not terrible. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:939185018] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>I don't know if I could say it's "one of the better", but it's not terrible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/15/20 5:22:17 AM #4:	Honestly, it might be the best one... if IW didn't exist. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939185213] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, it might be the best one... if IW didn't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 05/15/20 5:36:48 AM #5:	Absolutely not. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:939185460] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DANTE20XX 05/15/20 5:44:22 AM #6:	Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones. --- Solid's snake still shoots liquid, it's just that it's null. <cite>DANTE20XX posted [p:939185587] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 05/15/20 5:49:10 AM #7:	James Spader was great as Ultron --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:939185655] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>James Spader was great as Ultron </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/15/20 5:54:26 AM #8:	Thing is, it was the worst at the time... but the bar was quite high. As the bar lowered it turned out to be kinda up there --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:939185727] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Thing is, it was the worst at the time... but the bar was quite high. As the bar lowered it turned out to be kinda up there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 05/15/20 5:59:06 AM #9:	DANTE20XX posted... Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones. It had a few low points but over all it's still one of the better ones. So many combo-moves! Lokarin posted... Thing is, it was the worst at the time... but the bar was quite high. lol no. It came out after Thor 2 and Iron Man 3. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:939185798] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>DANTE20XX posted... </cite> <quote>Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones.</quote>It had a few low points but over all it's still one of the better ones. So many combo-moves! Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Thing is, it was the worst at the time... but the bar was quite high.</quote>lol no. It came out after Thor 2 and Iron Man 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GastroFan 05/15/20 9:03:23 AM #10:	Captain America: Winter Soldier was better. <cite>GastroFan posted [p:939189541] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Captain America: Winter Soldier was better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/15/20 9:03:53 AM #11:	helly opinion --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesn't change what's in your blood. <cite>Mead posted [p:939189552] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>helly opinion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zhangliao1 05/15/20 9:51:21 AM #12:	it's fine i'd rank it maybe upper middle but they really screwed up ultron making him yet another evil tony stark like they did in all 3 iron man movies --- "There are many children's books that teach morals, but I don't go around worshipping mother goose." - Dynalo <cite>zhangliao1 posted [p:939190909] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>it's fine i'd rank it maybe upper middle but they really screwed up ultron making him yet another evil tony stark like they did in all 3 iron man movies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hmnut7 05/15/20 10:52:50 AM #13:	Sahuagin posted... I don't know if I could say it's "one of the better", but it's not terrible. Came to say this! I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film. And normally when I debate with fanboys who claimed it was the greatest film ever, their reason why it was the best film ever, is "OMG the wrap around shot with all the Avengers standing there was so cool." And I get that... but the thing is, that wasn't actually cool, it was just a wrap around shot of characters, that's not some amazing special effect. What makes that shot special was it was a culmination of 4 years worth of hype and build up, a throw away line in Iron Man 1, which lets be honest when they filmed it probably no one really thought it would happen... all of that was actually put on the screen. I say all of that to say Avengers 1 was less a great movie and more a great event! It showed superhero shared universe franchises are a real thing, and this is awesome that there is pay off to watching all the smaller films. Avengers 2 as a movie was just a good... but not as exciting as a big event. There was no build up and no pay off, it was just a movie. A decent enough movie, but just a movie. I personally liked it more than Avengers 1, but that's me. --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" <cite>hmnut7 posted [p:939193268] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Sahuagin posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know if I could say it's "one of the better", but it's not terrible.</quote>Came to say this! I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film. And normally when I debate with fanboys who claimed it was the greatest film ever, their reason why it was the best film ever, is "OMG the wrap around shot with all the Avengers standing there was so cool." And I get that... but the thing is, that wasn't actually cool, it was just a wrap around shot of characters, that's not some amazing special effect. What makes that shot special was it was a culmination of 4 years worth of hype and build up, a throw away line in Iron Man 1, which lets be honest when they filmed it probably no one really thought it would happen... all of that was actually put on the screen. I say all of that to say Avengers 1 was less a great movie and more a great event! It showed superhero shared universe franchises are a real thing, and this is awesome that there is pay off to watching all the smaller films. Avengers 2 as a movie was just a good... but not as exciting as a big event. There was no build up and no pay off, it was just a movie. A decent enough movie, but just a movie. I personally liked it more than Avengers 1, but that's me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/15/20 11:02:41 AM #14:	GastroFan posted... Captain America: Winter Soldier was better. My son would definitely agree. Kid is obsessed with that movie. That one and Black Panther seem to be his favorites. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:939193689] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>GastroFan posted... </cite> <quote>Captain America: Winter Soldier was better.</quote> My son would definitely agree. Kid is obsessed with that movie. That one and Black Panther seem to be his favorites. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hmnut7 05/15/20 11:34:23 AM #15:	ChaosAzeroth posted... My son would definitely agree. Kid is obsessed with that movie. That one and Black Panther seem to be his favorites. Dad is that you! --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" <cite>hmnut7 posted [p:939194989] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>ChaosAzeroth posted... </cite> <quote>My son would definitely agree. Kid is obsessed with that movie. That one and Black Panther seem to be his favorites.</quote>Dad is that you! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/15/20 12:33:02 PM #16:	hmnut7 posted... Dad is that you! Oh shoot do I have another son? Listen son, I can explain... Actually, I can't. Sorry kiddo. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:939197593] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>hmnut7 posted... </cite> <quote>Dad is that you!</quote> Oh shoot do I have another son? Listen son, I can explain... Actually, I can't. Sorry kiddo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 05/15/20 1:02:46 PM #17:	Mead posted... helly opinion --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:939199087] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>helly opinion</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/15/20 2:04:33 PM #18:	DANTE20XX posted... Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones. Bullshit. Lokarin posted... Thing is, it was the worst at the time... but the bar was quite high. As the bar lowered it turned out to be kinda up there Crazy talk. hmnut7 posted... I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film. I wouldn't put Avengers 1 anywhere near the top. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939202009] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>DANTE20XX posted... </cite> <quote>Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones.</quote> Bullshit. Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Thing is, it was the worst at the time... but the bar was quite high. As the bar lowered it turned out to be kinda up there</quote> Crazy talk. hmnut7 posted... </cite> <quote>I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film.</quote> I wouldn't put Avengers 1 anywhere near the top. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat Man 05/15/20 2:40:00 PM #19:	It wasn't bad it just felt like we were sold an ultron in the marketing we didn't actually get in the movie. This looked like a fairly dark entry that ended up being another quip fest where Ultron is literally beating stark to the punchline. Vision was cool. The party at the beginning was great. End was pretty cool although Mook army 2.0 was disappointing. Too much running around in the middle though. --- Check out the opening excerpts of my cyberpunk novel at https://www.eyesofglass.com, also featuring my complete rewrite of Avengers Endgame! <cite>Eat Man posted [p:939203636] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't bad it just felt like we were sold an ultron in the marketing we didn't actually get in the movie. This looked like a fairly dark entry that ended up being another quip fest where Ultron is literally beating stark to the punchline. Vision was cool. The party at the beginning was great. End was pretty cool although Mook army 2.0 was disappointing. Too much running around in the middle though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DANTE20XX 05/15/20 6:28:26 PM #20:	Zeus posted... I wouldn't put Avengers 1 anywhere near the top. You're in the minority. Avengers 1 was the best film til Winter Soldier came out. Even then some people put it higher. --- Solid's snake still shoots liquid, it's just that it's null. <cite>DANTE20XX posted [p:939214496] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't put Avengers 1 anywhere near the top.</quote>You're in the minority. Avengers 1 was the best film til Winter Soldier came out. Even then some people put it higher. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 05/15/20 7:13:58 PM #21:	DANTE20XX posted... Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones. no, the weaker ones are the first two thor and captain america movies, as well as black panther and captain marvel. --- there is blood on my hands how long till it lies on my heart <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:939216841] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>DANTE20XX posted... </cite> <quote>Not really. Its not bad, but its not one the better ones. It's one of the weaker ones.</quote>no, the weaker ones are the first two thor and captain america movies, as well as black panther and captain marvel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 05/15/20 7:14:29 PM #22:	Far-Queue posted... James Spader was great as Ultron The one thing I'm pretty sure most MCU fans agree on. Poor script but he still killed it. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:939216869] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>James Spader was great as Ultron</quote>The one thing I'm pretty sure most MCU fans agree on. Poor script but he still killed it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 05/15/20 7:19:54 PM #23:	InfernalFive posted... The one thing I'm pretty sure most MCU fans agree on. Poor script but he still killed it. Yeah it's a shame they didn't do more with the character other than use him as a plot device/punching bag, because Spader was nails in that performance --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:939217136] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted... </cite> <quote>The one thing I'm pretty sure most MCU fans agree on. Poor script but he still killed it.</quote>Yeah it's a shame they didn't do more with the character other than use him as a plot device/punching bag, because Spader was nails in that performance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/16/20 6:40:10 AM #24:	DANTE20XX posted... You're in the minority. Avengers 1 was the best film til Winter Soldier came out. Even then some people put it higher. See, Winter Soldier I can understand. However, Avengers 1 was kind of a crapfest with some heavy fan service and too much Whedon being Whedon. InfernalFive posted... The one thing I'm pretty sure most MCU fans agree on. Poor script but he still killed it. Spader kills in everything, though... except maybe The Office. Robert California's one quip about why the company shouldn't open retail locations was great, though. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939237610] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>DANTE20XX posted... </cite> <quote>You're in the minority. Avengers 1 was the best film til Winter Soldier came out. Even then some people put it higher.</quote> See, Winter Soldier I can understand. However, Avengers 1 was kind of a crapfest with some heavy fan service and too much Whedon being Whedon. InfernalFive posted... </cite> <quote>The one thing I'm pretty sure most MCU fans agree on. Poor script but he still killed it.</quote> Spader kills in everything, though... except maybe The Office. Robert California's one quip about why the company shouldn't open retail locations was great, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrYuya 05/16/20 6:54:25 AM #25:	If I had to call any MCU films specifically "bad"...I'd maybe just say Thor the Dark world. Even then though I feel that'd be disingenuous...because I've seen truly bad movies before (look up Manos the Hands of Fate...or for a more well known reference Suicide Squad) and what the MCU offers is not fair to comparably call "bad" All that to say...Ultron is still a low end of the MCU spectrum movie. And this is absolutely not a criticism. --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:939237819] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>If I had to call any MCU films specifically "bad"...I'd maybe just say Thor the Dark world. Even then though I feel that'd be disingenuous...because I've seen truly bad movies before (look up Manos the Hands of Fate...or for a more well known reference Suicide Squad) and what the MCU offers is not fair to comparably call "bad" All that to say...Ultron is still a low end of the MCU spectrum movie. And this is absolutely not a criticism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 05/16/20 9:24:05 AM #26:	hmnut7 posted... I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film. I don't remember anyone ever saying it was literally the best movie of all time. Best superhero movie yet at the time, maybe. hmnut7 posted... their reason why it was the best film ever, is "OMG the wrap around shot with all the Avengers standing there was so cool." And I get that... but the thing is, that wasn't actually cool, it was just a wrap around shot of characters, that's not some amazing special effect. That wasn't even in the top-5 moments in the movie lol. The best scene is that long shot showing everyone in action. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:939240831] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>hmnut7 posted... </cite> <quote>I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film.</quote>I don't remember anyone ever saying it was literally the best movie of all time. Best superhero movie yet at the time, maybe. hmnut7 posted... </cite> <quote>their reason why it was the best film ever, is "OMG the wrap around shot with all the Avengers standing there was so cool." And I get that... but the thing is, that wasn't actually cool, it was just a wrap around shot of characters, that's not some amazing special effect.</quote>That wasn't even in the top-5 moments in the movie lol. The best scene is that long shot showing everyone in action. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/16/20 2:29:00 PM #27:	DrYuya posted... If I had to call any MCU films specifically "bad"...I'd maybe just say Thor the Dark world. I think I'd put Captain MarySue at the very bottom. However, IM2 would be right next to it. I remember The Incredible Hulk also being lousy, but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt since it's been so long since I've watched it. Thor2 and IM3 are definitely subpar. Avengers 1 had a lot of stupid shit, which people tend to overlook because of the fanservice and the fact that it's the first time the team is together. And while I liked AM&W, it's also in that subpar category. Honestly, most of the MCU is unspectacular. A lot of the movies are just serviceable superhero stories, even if some -- like GotG2 and Thor3 -- are a lot of fun. The only ones that are anything special are Winter Soldier, IW, AoU, and maybe CW. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939252458] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>DrYuya posted... </cite> <quote>If I had to call any MCU films specifically "bad"...I'd maybe just say Thor the Dark world.</quote> I think I'd put Captain MarySue at the very bottom. However, IM2 would be right next to it. I remember The Incredible Hulk also being lousy, but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt since it's been so long since I've watched it. Thor2 and IM3 are definitely subpar. Avengers 1 had a lot of stupid shit, which people tend to overlook because of the fanservice and the fact that it's the first time the team is together. And while I liked AM&W, it's also in that subpar category. Honestly, most of the MCU is unspectacular. A lot of the movies are just serviceable superhero stories, even if some -- like GotG2 and Thor3 -- are a lot of fun. The only ones that are anything special are Winter Soldier, IW, AoU, and maybe CW. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 05/16/20 2:45:32 PM #28:	'Age of Ultron' is the moment when the entire MCU started jumping the shark, imo.... Multi-franchise, expanded universe, ensemble films were never done before in Hollywood, so it was new territory for everyone.....until Disney took over. Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America as well as the Avengers brand were properties of Paramount in the beginning. Paramount didn't give a fuck about what Feige's vision was, as long as there was money to be made. And when the entire venture was paying off, Disney bought out all the rights from Paramount. And during the transition, Whedon continued with the original plan up until 'Age of Ultron', when the first reports of any studio meddling started to take place, leading to Whedon getting bullied out by Disney. Binge watch the entire MCU, and you can actually see the tonal shift in how they presented these characters. With Disney in complete control, you can see certain attitudes and liberties taken to "better appeal to the global markets" (re: suckin' China dick). For example, the reason why 'the Ancient One' is a Celtic female, isn't because of female empowerment, it's because of China's attitude towards Tibetan culture; to better sell the Doctor Strange movie overseas without controversy. And the only reason Capt. MarySue is a movie, is because someone adopted the whole "Force is Female" mantra from the Star Wars franchise. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:939253258] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>'Age of Ultron' is the moment when the entire MCU started jumping the shark, imo.... Multi-franchise, expanded universe, ensemble films were never done before in Hollywood, so it was new territory for everyone.....until Disney took over. Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America as well as the Avengers brand were properties of Paramount in the beginning. Paramount didn't give a fuck about what Feige's vision was, as long as there was money to be made. And when the entire venture was paying off, Disney bought out all the rights from Paramount. And during the transition, Whedon continued with the original plan up until 'Age of Ultron', when the first reports of any studio meddling started to take place, leading to Whedon getting bullied out by Disney. Binge watch the entire MCU, and you can actually see the tonal shift in how they presented these characters. With Disney in complete control, you can see certain attitudes and liberties taken to "better appeal to the global markets" (re: suckin' China dick). For example, the reason why 'the Ancient One' is a Celtic female, isn't because of female empowerment, it's because of China's attitude towards Tibetan culture; to better sell the Doctor Strange movie overseas without controversy. And the only reason Capt. MarySue is a movie, is because someone adopted the whole "Force is Female" mantra from the Star Wars franchise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 05/16/20 3:19:44 PM #30:	Joker_X_II posted... 'Age of Ultron' is the moment when the entire MCU started jumping the shark, imo.... Multi-franchise, expanded universe, ensemble films were never done before in Hollywood, so it was new territory for everyone.....until Disney took over. Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America as well as the Avengers brand were properties of Paramount in the beginning. Paramount didn't give a fuck about what Feige's vision was, as long as there was money to be made. And when the entire venture was paying off, Disney bought out all the rights from Paramount. And during the transition, Whedon continued with the original plan up until 'Age of Ultron', when the first reports of any studio meddling started to take place, leading to Whedon getting bullied out by Disney. Binge watch the entire MCU, and you can actually see the tonal shift in how they presented these characters. With Disney in complete control, you can see certain attitudes and liberties taken to "better appeal to the global markets" (re: suckin' China dick). For example, the reason why 'the Ancient One' is a Celtic female, isn't because of female empowerment, it's because of China's attitude towards Tibetan culture; to better sell the Doctor Strange movie overseas without controversy. And the only reason Capt. MarySue is a movie, is because someone adopted the whole "Force is Female" mantra from the Star Wars franchise. Literally the three worst movies in the series are from before Age of Ultron. Also Captain Marvel was good --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:939254809] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>'Age of Ultron' is the moment when the entire MCU started jumping the shark, imo.... Multi-franchise, expanded universe, ensemble films were never done before in Hollywood, so it was new territory for everyone.....until Disney took over. Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America as well as the Avengers brand were properties of Paramount in the beginning. Paramount didn't give a fuck about what Feige's vision was, as long as there was money to be made. And when the entire venture was paying off, Disney bought out all the rights from Paramount. And during the transition, Whedon continued with the original plan up until 'Age of Ultron', when the first reports of any studio meddling started to take place, leading to Whedon getting bullied out by Disney. Binge watch the entire MCU, and you can actually see the tonal shift in how they presented these characters. With Disney in complete control, you can see certain attitudes and liberties taken to "better appeal to the global markets" (re: suckin' China dick). For example, the reason why 'the Ancient One' is a Celtic female, isn't because of female empowerment, it's because of China's attitude towards Tibetan culture; to better sell the Doctor Strange movie overseas without controversy. And the only reason Capt. MarySue is a movie, is because someone adopted the whole "Force is Female" mantra from the Star Wars franchise.</quote>Literally the three worst movies in the series are from before Age of Ultron. Also Captain Marvel was good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 05/16/20 3:40:23 PM #31:	Metalsonic66 posted... Literally the three worst movies in the series are from before Age of Ultron. Also Captain Marvel was good How could you say the worst MCU movies was before AoU, when those were the movies that made the MCU what it is today? And Captain MarySue was 'okay' but not 'good' or 'great'..... the movie was basically a platform for modern gender politics told in a 90s wax museum built by kids who never grew up during that time. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:939255700] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Metalsonic66 posted... </cite> <quote>Literally the three worst movies in the series are from before Age of Ultron. Also Captain Marvel was good</quote> How could you say the worst MCU movies was before AoU, when those were the movies that made the MCU what it is today? And Captain MarySue was 'okay' but not 'good' or 'great'..... the movie was basically a platform for modern gender politics told in a 90s wax museum built by kids who never grew up during that time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 05/16/20 3:55:08 PM #32:	Joker_X_II posted... How could you say the worst MCU movies was before AoU, when those were the movies that made the MCU what it is today? Because the fact that they set the stage for later movies doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the movies themselves? Joker_X_II posted... And Captain MarySue was 'okay' but not 'good' or 'great'..... the movie was basically a platform for modern gender politics told in a 90s wax museum built by kids who never grew up during that time. If you say so. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:939256288] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>How could you say the worst MCU movies was before AoU, when those were the movies that made the MCU what it is today?</quote>Because the fact that they set the stage for later movies doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the movies themselves? Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>And Captain MarySue was 'okay' but not 'good' or 'great'..... the movie was basically a platform for modern gender politics told in a 90s wax museum built by kids who never grew up during that time.</quote>If you say so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 05/16/20 3:55:49 PM #33:	quigonzel posted... This is my personal tier list of the MCU: something like this for me (definitely some wiggle room on some of them): X Tier: Avengers: Infinity War S Tier: Captain America: The Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers: Endgame Captain America: Civil War Thor: Ragnarok Dr. Strange A Tier: Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2 Iron Man Thor Captain America: The First Avenger B Tier: Avengers: Age of Ultron Ant-Man Black Panther Spider-Man Homecoming C Tier: Marvel's The Avengers Iron Man 2 Iron Man 3 Thor: The Dark World D Tier: None Haven't seen: The Incredible Hulk Captain Marvel Spider-Man: Far From Home --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:939256306] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>quigonzel posted... </cite> <quote>This is my personal tier list of the MCU: </quote> something like this for me (definitely some wiggle room on some of them): X Tier: Avengers: Infinity War S Tier: Captain America: The Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers: Endgame Captain America: Civil War Thor: Ragnarok Dr. Strange A Tier: Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2 Iron Man Thor Captain America: The First Avenger B Tier: Avengers: Age of Ultron Ant-Man Black Panther Spider-Man Homecoming C Tier: Marvel's The Avengers Iron Man 2 Iron Man 3 Thor: The Dark World D Tier: None Haven't seen: The Incredible Hulk Captain Marvel Spider-Man: Far From Home </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/16/20 4:14:22 PM #34:	Joker_X_II posted... How could you say the worst MCU movies was before AoU, when those were the movies that made the MCU what it is today? How could you use that as a serious argument? That argument is flawed in almost every way. More importantly, Incredible Hulk not only lacked tangible connections to the MCU, but they even recast Banner on top of it. So you can't even argue for it on the grounds that it contributed to the MCU. If the film didn't exist, it would have as much impact on the MCU. And IM2 was worse than IM3, which was also heavily criticized. At any rate, about half the franchise happened before AoU. While I'm not sure which 3 MetalSonic is criticizing, there are a lot of possibilities, including Incredible Hulk, IM2, IM3, Thor2, and Avengers (and even Thor had its issues). In general, the franchise didn't really hit its stride until AFTER the first Avengers film. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939257044] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote> How could you say the worst MCU movies was before AoU, when those were the movies that made the MCU what it is today?</quote> How could you use that as a serious argument? That argument is flawed in almost every way. More importantly, Incredible Hulk not only lacked tangible connections to the MCU, but they even recast Banner on top of it. So you can't even argue for it on the grounds that it contributed to the MCU. If the film didn't exist, it would have as much impact on the MCU. And IM2 was worse than IM3, which was also heavily criticized. At any rate, about half the franchise happened before AoU. While I'm not sure which 3 MetalSonic is criticizing, there are a lot of possibilities, including Incredible Hulk, IM2, IM3, Thor2, and Avengers (and even Thor had its issues). In general, the franchise didn't really hit its stride until AFTER the first Avengers film. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 05/16/20 4:50:44 PM #35:	Thor 1 and 2 and Iron Man 3 are the worst ones. Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk are also down there. But all of these movies are still not BAD movies, they're just not as good. They're still great when compared to actual shitty superhero movies like FantFourStic, Green Lantern, and X-Men Origins --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:939258616] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Thor 1 and 2 and Iron Man 3 are the worst ones. Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk are also down there. But all of these movies are still not BAD movies, they're just not as good. They're still great when compared to actual shitty superhero movies like FantFourStic, Green Lantern, and X-Men Origins </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 05/16/20 6:31:03 PM #36:	Zeus posted... How could you use that as a serious argument? That argument is flawed in almost every way. More importantly, Incredible Hulk not only lacked tangible connections to the MCU, but they even recast Banner on top of it. So you can't even argue for it on the grounds that it contributed to the MCU. If the film didn't exist, it would have as much impact on the MCU. And IM2 was worse than IM3, which was also heavily criticized. At any rate, about half the franchise happened before AoU. While I'm not sure which 3 MetalSonic is criticizing, there are a lot of possibilities, including Incredible Hulk, IM2, IM3, Thor2, and Avengers (and even Thor had its issues). In general, the franchise didn't really hit its stride until AFTER the first Avengers film. Holy shit, calm your tits kiddo..... The problem with your counter-argument is that it lacks any context.,....or any real points to counter with, for that matter. If you saw how the MCU was developing since the first Iron Man movie, the whole thing was a journey to experience; not something you look back at after having the last 10 movies of Disney shovel shit right down your throat, telling you what to like. The first Iron Man was good because RDJ gave a good comeback performance after being away from Hollywood due to his addiction. At this time the MCU wasn't even a concept in the minds of the audience or comic fans. Except with the Nick Fury stinger at the end was awesome, because they dropped the Avengers name; but no one could figure out how it was going to happen because all the IPs were scattered across other studios (due to Marvel's bankruptcy during the 1990s, selling off all their IPs to random studios). So then even if we got the Avengers, people believed it would be a mish-mash of 3rd and 4th tier characters no one heard of. Incredible Hulk was good, but not without their problems of course. You say there are no tangible connections to the MCU? Are you mental? There were plenty of subtle breadcrumbs throughout the movie, from Captain America's serum, to Stark's Sonic Cannons....I mean what do you expect during this second MCU film, when the universe was that small?....But of course it wasn't until the end when people were losing their shit that RDJ made his cameo, and the realization that the Avengers could have the Hulk in the line up. Iron Man 2 was good too. Because it elaborated more on the possibility of an Avengers ensemble piece. Black Widow and War Machine debuts. Nick Fury in a more elaborate role tossing breadcrumbs about the Avengers. And of course the first shot of Thor's Hammer....AGAIN, adding to the excitement of the coming Avengers movie. Thor was good, and showed good effort. Thor was supposed to be the High-fantasy, swords and sorcery leg of the MCU. Then even had Shakespearean actor Kenneth Brannagh directing the movie, proving how serious they wanted this franchise to blossom with such a refined atmosphere. A stellar cast with Natalie Portman and Anthony Hopkins. Sure this movie is the weakest of all the MCU movies, but was still revered since at this time there was only 4 MCU movies anyway. Captain America, succeeded where Thor failed. Again, they hired a director that falls in line with the atmosphere they wanted. A WW2 era action film, what better way to fulfill that vision with Joe Johnston who directed the Rocketeer (a big Disney action movie from the early 90s for you zoomers out there). And without argument, the Captain America movies were the best MCU movies to this day. Then came the actual Avengers movie....and proved the whole venture worked from the get-go. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:939262737] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>How could you use that as a serious argument? That argument is flawed in almost every way. More importantly, Incredible Hulk not only lacked tangible connections to the MCU, but they even recast Banner on top of it. So you can't even argue for it on the grounds that it contributed to the MCU. If the film didn't exist, it would have as much impact on the MCU. And IM2 was worse than IM3, which was also heavily criticized. At any rate, about half the franchise happened before AoU. While I'm not sure which 3 MetalSonic is criticizing, there are a lot of possibilities, including Incredible Hulk, IM2, IM3, Thor2, and Avengers (and even Thor had its issues). In general, the franchise didn't really hit its stride until AFTER the first Avengers film.</quote> Holy shit, calm your tits kiddo..... The problem with your counter-argument is that it lacks any context.,....or any real points to counter with, for that matter. If you saw how the MCU was developing since the first Iron Man movie, the whole thing was a journey to experience; not something you look back at after having the last 10 movies of Disney shovel shit right down your throat, telling you what to like. The first Iron Man was good because RDJ gave a good comeback performance after being away from Hollywood due to his addiction. At this time the MCU wasn't even a concept in the minds of the audience or comic fans. Except with the Nick Fury stinger at the end was awesome, because they dropped the Avengers name; but no one could figure out how it was going to happen because all the IPs were scattered across other studios (due to Marvel's bankruptcy during the 1990s, selling off all their IPs to random studios). So then even if we got the Avengers, people believed it would be a mish-mash of 3rd and 4th tier characters no one heard of. Incredible Hulk was good, but not without their problems of course. You say there are no tangible connections to the MCU? Are you mental? There were plenty of subtle breadcrumbs throughout the movie, from Captain America's serum, to Stark's Sonic Cannons....I mean what do you expect during this second MCU film, when the universe was that small?....But of course it wasn't until the end when people were losing their shit that RDJ made his cameo, and the realization that the Avengers could have the Hulk in the line up. Iron Man 2 was good too. Because it elaborated more on the possibility of an Avengers ensemble piece. Black Widow and War Machine debuts. Nick Fury in a more elaborate role tossing breadcrumbs about the Avengers. And of course the first shot of Thor's Hammer....AGAIN, adding to the excitement of the coming Avengers movie. Thor was good, and showed good effort. Thor was supposed to be the High-fantasy, swords and sorcery leg of the MCU. Then even had Shakespearean actor Kenneth Brannagh directing the movie, proving how serious they wanted this franchise to blossom with such a refined atmosphere. A stellar cast with Natalie Portman and Anthony Hopkins. Sure this movie is the weakest of all the MCU movies, but was still revered since at this time there was only 4 MCU movies anyway. Captain America, succeeded where Thor failed. Again, they hired a director that falls in line with the atmosphere they wanted. A WW2 era action film, what better way to fulfill that vision with Joe Johnston who directed the Rocketeer (a big Disney action movie from the early 90s for you zoomers out there). And without argument, the Captain America movies were the best MCU movies to this day. Then came the actual Avengers movie....and proved the whole venture worked from the get-go. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 05/16/20 7:32:03 PM #37:	Asides from Ultron's great Voice acting I think it was a pretty bad movie, no even just a bad marvel movie. It was like The first Avengers movie, but not as good. The ending in particular was killing me, I couldnt wait for it to be over so I could leave the theater. Reason I say this is because it felt like they had a baddie killing quota that needed to be met and if every character didnt meet theirs, some one would be butthurt because 'X' character didnt have as many kill confirms as Character 'Y'. I used to love Marvel Movies because Hollywood had never taken Superhero movies so seriously, unless it was grimdark or more catered towards "realism". Though now most of the Superhero movies seem to follow the same formula and its really dragging through the mud for me. Adapt "Invincible" pleaseee, though it would have to be rated R, well maybe they could tone down the violence and still make it fit. Only Superhero movies I will ever bother rewatching, if at all will be: -Ironman 1 -Godspeed spiderman -Guardians of the Galaxy -Thor Ragnorok -Infinity War, maybe the 1st Avengers --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:939265407] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Asides from Ultron's great Voice acting I think it was a pretty bad movie, no even just a bad marvel movie. It was like The first Avengers movie, but not as good. The ending in particular was killing me, I couldnt wait for it to be over so I could leave the theater. Reason I say this is because it felt like they had a baddie killing quota that needed to be met and if every character didnt meet theirs, some one would be butthurt because 'X' character didnt have as many kill confirms as Character 'Y'. I used to love Marvel Movies because Hollywood had never taken Superhero movies so seriously, unless it was grimdark or more catered towards "realism". Though now most of the Superhero movies seem to follow the same formula and its really dragging through the mud for me. Adapt "Invincible" pleaseee, though it would have to be rated R, well maybe they could tone down the violence and still make it fit. Only Superhero movies I will ever bother rewatching, if at all will be: -Ironman 1 -Godspeed spiderman -Guardians of the Galaxy -Thor Ragnorok -Infinity War, maybe the 1st Avengers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/16/20 8:45:36 PM #38:	Joker_X_II posted... Holy shit, calm your tits kiddo..... Hop off my lightning rod bro Joker_X_II posted... The problem with your counter-argument is that it lacks any context.,....or any real points to counter with, for that matter. The problem with your original argument is that it lacks any reason. Or logic. Or points to counter. Joker_X_II posted... If you saw how the MCU was developing since the first Iron Man movie, the whole thing was a journey to experience; not something you look back at after having the last 10 movies of Disney shovel shit right down your throat, telling you what to like. Which isn't an argument that makes something good. Joker_X_II posted... The first Iron Man was good because RDJ gave a good comeback performance after being away from Hollywood due to his addiction. At this time the MCU wasn't even a concept in the minds of the audience or comic fans. Except with the Nick Fury stinger at the end was awesome, because they dropped the Avengers name; but no one could figure out how it was going to happen because all the IPs were scattered across other studios (due to Marvel's bankruptcy during the 1990s, selling off all their IPs to random studios). So then even if we got the Avengers, people believed it would be a mish-mash of 3rd and 4th tier characters no one heard of. A good performance doesn't automatically make the rest of the film good. And as much as I liked IM1, it had a lot of problems. It was certainly a decent movie, but it pales in comparison to the best MCU films which start with Winter Soldier. IM1 has pacing issues, some of the effects are inconsistent (which is why the final battle -- which was shot first -- doesn't look as good as a lot of the earlier stuff), etc. None of which is meant to suggest that it's a bad film (unlike IM2), it's just nowhere near the best. As for the Avengers, the only people who knew about the rights nightmare were geeks. The general audience had no idea. The only thing that IM1 really succeeded at was helping to establish IM as a character since, while he was well-known by comic fans, he was a relative unknown when compared to Captain America, Hulk, and even Thor. But that has nothing to do with the quality of the movie. Profitability is no indication of quality. If you don't believe me, watch the Bayformers films. Joker_X_II posted... Incredible Hulk was good, but not without their problems of course. You say there are no tangible connections to the MCU? There were plenty of subtle breadcrumbs throughout the movie, from Captain America's serum, to Stark's Sonic Cannons....I mean what do you expect during this second MCU film, when the universe was that small?....But of course it wasn't until the end when people were losing their shit that RDJ made his cameo, and the realization that the Avengers could have the Hulk in the line up. Oh, I forgot that there was an after-credits cameo so fucking tiny as to be forgotten after already having the other, more memorable ending in the jungle which capped off the ending right before it. Forgiveness puh-lease! Otherwise my points stand. IM1 definitely built into the MCU but IH doesn't really add anything (and most of the things you reference were just easter eggs). More importantly, the countless plot threads that started in IH were completely abandoned afterward and the movie did so poorly that there was talk of another Hulk reboot prior to Avengers. As for the quality of the film, neither IH or the Ang Lee Hulk are particularly good films. The Ang Lee one had some cool cinematography, but the actor's accent was distracting. IH made the weird decision of casting tiny Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky/Abomination. IH had a good end fight and the villain choice was pretty solid (even if the casting stucked), but most of the movie was kinda lousy. More importantly, it wasn't a real hit which is why it was all but abandoned. IH has been the least profitable MCU film by a massive margin, with an anemic $265m box office (against a $137 budget) in a franchise with multiple billion-dollar films. Joker_X_II posted... Iron Man 2 was good too. Because it elaborated more on the possibility of an Avengers ensemble piece. Black Widow and War Machine debuts. Nick Fury in a more elaborate role tossing breadcrumbs about the Avengers. And of course the first shot of Thor's Hammer....AGAIN, adding to the excitement of the coming Avengers movie. While I loved IM1, IM2 killed much of my enthusiasm for the MCU. It was a terrible film. You talk about "building excitement" but it did the opposite. The new IM suit (created to sell toys and there were a fuckton of IM toys -- IM is probably the most heavily merchandised character in the MCU) looked ugly, the villains were unimpressive (Mickey Rourke's Vanko just seemed goofy and kept distracting me from the film), and the bloated subplots distracted from the story. They were more focused on continuing a narrow than making a great film. As such, there were a lot of missed opportunities. The fact that it introduced Black Widow and first showed James Rhodes (who was present in IM1) as War Machine doesn't make it a good film. It just adds connections to the later movies. Most MCU films add pieces to the overall continuity. The only real difference is that the other films tend to do a better job of working it into the story. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939268583] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>Holy shit, calm your tits kiddo.....</quote> Hop off my lightning rod bro Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>The problem with your counter-argument is that it lacks any context.,....or any real points to counter with, for that matter.</quote> The problem with your original argument is that it lacks any reason. Or logic. Or points to counter. Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>If you saw how the MCU was developing since the first Iron Man movie, the whole thing was a journey to experience; not something you look back at after having the last 10 movies of Disney shovel shit right down your throat, telling you what to like.</quote> Which isn't an argument that makes something good. Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>The first Iron Man was good because RDJ gave a good comeback performance after being away from Hollywood due to his addiction. At this time the MCU wasn't even a concept in the minds of the audience or comic fans. Except with the Nick Fury stinger at the end was awesome, because they dropped the Avengers name; but no one could figure out how it was going to happen because all the IPs were scattered across other studios (due to Marvel's bankruptcy during the 1990s, selling off all their IPs to random studios). So then even if we got the Avengers, people believed it would be a mish-mash of 3rd and 4th tier characters no one heard of.</quote> A good performance doesn't automatically make the rest of the film good. And as much as I liked IM1, it had a lot of problems. It was certainly a decent movie, but it pales in comparison to the best MCU films which start with Winter Soldier. IM1 has pacing issues, some of the effects are inconsistent (which is why the final battle -- which was shot first -- doesn't look as good as a lot of the earlier stuff), etc. None of which is meant to suggest that it's a bad film (unlike IM2), it's just nowhere near the best. As for the Avengers, the only people who knew about the rights nightmare were geeks. The general audience had no idea. The only thing that IM1 really succeeded at was helping to establish IM as a character since, while he was well-known by comic fans, he was a relative unknown when compared to Captain America, Hulk, and even Thor. But that has nothing to do with the quality of the movie. Profitability is no indication of quality. If you don't believe me, watch the Bayformers films. Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote> Incredible Hulk was good, but not without their problems of course. You say there are no tangible connections to the MCU? There were plenty of subtle breadcrumbs throughout the movie, from Captain America's serum, to Stark's Sonic Cannons....I mean what do you expect during this second MCU film, when the universe was that small?....But of course it wasn't until the end when people were losing their shit that RDJ made his cameo, and the realization that the Avengers could have the Hulk in the line up.</quote> Oh, I forgot that there was an after-credits cameo so fucking tiny as to be forgotten after already having the other, more memorable ending in the jungle which capped off the ending right before it. Forgiveness puh-lease! Otherwise my points stand. IM1 definitely built into the MCU but IH doesn't really add anything (and most of the things you reference were just easter eggs). More importantly, the countless plot threads that started in IH were completely abandoned afterward and the movie did so poorly that there was talk of another Hulk reboot prior to Avengers. As for the quality of the film, neither IH or the Ang Lee Hulk are particularly good films. The Ang Lee one had some cool cinematography, but the actor's accent was distracting. IH made the weird decision of casting tiny Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky/Abomination. IH had a good end fight and the villain choice was pretty solid (even if the casting stucked), but most of the movie was kinda lousy. More importantly, it wasn't a real hit which is why it was all but abandoned. IH has been the least profitable MCU film by a massive margin, with an anemic $265m box office (against a $137 budget) in a franchise with multiple billion-dollar films. Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>Iron Man 2 was good too. Because it elaborated more on the possibility of an Avengers ensemble piece. Black Widow and War Machine debuts. Nick Fury in a more elaborate role tossing breadcrumbs about the Avengers. And of course the first shot of Thor's Hammer....AGAIN, adding to the excitement of the coming Avengers movie.</quote> While I loved IM1, IM2 killed much of my enthusiasm for the MCU. It was a terrible film. You talk about "building excitement" but it did the opposite. The new IM suit (created to sell toys and there were a fuckton of IM toys -- IM is probably the most heavily merchandised character in the MCU) looked ugly, the villains were unimpressive (Mickey Rourke's Vanko just seemed goofy and kept distracting me from the film), and the bloated subplots distracted from the story. They were more focused on continuing a narrow than making a great film. As such, there were a lot of missed opportunities. The fact that it introduced Black Widow and first showed James Rhodes (who was present in IM1) as War Machine doesn't make it a good film. It just adds connections to the later movies. Most MCU films add pieces to the overall continuity. The only real difference is that the other films tend to do a better job of working it into the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/16/20 9:04:33 PM #39:	Joker_X_II posted... Thor was good, and showed good effort. Thor was supposed to be the High-fantasy, swords and sorcery leg of the MCU. Then even had Shakespearean actor Kenneth Brannagh directing the movie, proving how serious they wanted this franchise to blossom with such a refined atmosphere. A stellar cast with Natalie Portman and Anthony Hopkins. Sure this movie is the weakest of all the MCU movies, but was still revered since at this time there was only 4 MCU movies anyway. Thor has incredible set pieces, works in several notable antagonists, had a strong narrative arc, and in theory had a lot going for it. However, the pacing was lousy. There are a few notable slowdowns. I wouldn't call it the weakest MCU film because it came out right around the same time as IM2 which is probably the second-worst MCU film (after Captain Marvel). However, it's not the kind of movie that necessarily builds enthusiasm for the franchise as a whole. And Tom Hiddleston as Loki is among the best things in the MCU. It's easily on par with RDJ Tony Stark. I wasn't a fan of either actor prior to these performances, but both were incredible in their respective roles. Honestly, one of the film's issues might be how greatly Loki outshone Thor. Joker_X_II posted... Captain America, succeeded where Thor failed. Again, they hired a director that falls in line with the atmosphere they wanted. A WW2 era action film, what better way to fulfill that vision with Joe Johnston who directed the Rocketeer (a big Disney action movie from the early 90s for you zoomers out there). And without argument, the Captain America movies were the best MCU movies to this day. My only real complaint about Captain America is the shitty costumes they went with in the beginning of the franchise. Cap1 has some issues, but it's an alright film that regained some of my enthusiasm because Avengers 1 soured me on the MCU for a long time. Avengers 1 was a colossal disappointment. I sometimes try to temper my dislike for the film, but Whedon really screwed the pooch on every conceivable level. I couldn't imagine that they could take something that I had been looking forward to since IM1 and fuck it up so bad, especially because there wasn't much that they really needed to do. After Avengers 1, I checked out of the franchise as a whole for a long time. That's not to say that I didn't like the fact that Loki was responsible for bringing the Avengers together just like in the comics (even if Ant-Man couldn't be in phase 1). That's not to say that the movie didn't have incredible moments. However, the movie also had a lot of Whedon's silliness. Because of his fetishes, he really played up Black Widow -- including that stupid interrogation scene -- and made her seem more pivotal than even Captain America. Up until this film, I had been a long-time ScarJo fan, but I wound up disliking the actress afterward for a while... which would be great if she was playing a villain. There was also a lot of goofy cringy shit like comparing Loki to Hitler, in addition to stuff that was designed to be meme'd like "We have a Hulk" which was overplayed in the trailers before that. After seeing Avengers 1 in theaters, I don't believe I watched another MCU film until 2018 when I saw CW. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939269355] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote> Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>Thor was good, and showed good effort. Thor was supposed to be the High-fantasy, swords and sorcery leg of the MCU. Then even had Shakespearean actor Kenneth Brannagh directing the movie, proving how serious they wanted this franchise to blossom with such a refined atmosphere. A stellar cast with Natalie Portman and Anthony Hopkins. Sure this movie is the weakest of all the MCU movies, but was still revered since at this time there was only 4 MCU movies anyway.</quote> Thor has incredible set pieces, works in several notable antagonists, had a strong narrative arc, and in theory had a lot going for it. However, the pacing was lousy. There are a few notable slowdowns. I wouldn't call it the weakest MCU film because it came out right around the same time as IM2 which is probably the second-worst MCU film (after Captain Marvel). However, it's not the kind of movie that necessarily builds enthusiasm for the franchise as a whole. And Tom Hiddleston as Loki is among the best things in the MCU. It's easily on par with RDJ Tony Stark. I wasn't a fan of either actor prior to these performances, but both were incredible in their respective roles. Honestly, one of the film's issues might be how greatly Loki outshone Thor. Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>Captain America, succeeded where Thor failed. Again, they hired a director that falls in line with the atmosphere they wanted. A WW2 era action film, what better way to fulfill that vision with Joe Johnston who directed the Rocketeer (a big Disney action movie from the early 90s for you zoomers out there). And without argument, the Captain America movies were the best MCU movies to this day.</quote> My only real complaint about Captain America is the shitty costumes they went with in the beginning of the franchise. Cap1 has some issues, but it's an alright film that regained some of my enthusiasm because Avengers 1 soured me on the MCU for a long time. Avengers 1 was a colossal disappointment. I sometimes try to temper my dislike for the film, but Whedon really screwed the pooch on every conceivable level. I couldn't imagine that they could take something that I had been looking forward to since IM1 and fuck it up so bad, especially because there wasn't much that they really needed to do. After Avengers 1, I checked out of the franchise as a whole for a long time. That's not to say that I didn't like the fact that Loki was responsible for bringing the Avengers together just like in the comics (even if Ant-Man couldn't be in phase 1). That's not to say that the movie didn't have incredible moments. However, the movie also had a lot of Whedon's silliness. Because of his fetishes, he really played up Black Widow -- including that stupid interrogation scene -- and made her seem more pivotal than even Captain America. Up until this film, I had been a long-time ScarJo fan, but I wound up disliking the actress afterward for a while... which would be great if she was playing a villain. There was also a lot of goofy cringy shit like comparing Loki to Hitler, in addition to stuff that was designed to be meme'd like "We have a Hulk" which was overplayed in the trailers before that. After seeing Avengers 1 in theaters, I don't believe I watched another MCU film until 2018 when I saw CW. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 05/17/20 12:42:18 AM #40:	Joker_X_II posted... Binge watch the entire MCU i have been, and the saga gets markedly better after whedon gets kicked out. --- there is blood on my hands how long till it lies on my heart <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:939277678] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>Binge watch the entire MCU</quote>i have been, and the saga gets markedly better after whedon gets kicked out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZBug_ 05/17/20 4:47:05 AM #41:	hmnut7 posted... Came to say this! I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film. And normally when I debate with fanboys who claimed it was the greatest film ever, their reason why it was the best film ever, is "OMG the wrap around shot with all the Avengers standing there was so cool." And I get that... but the thing is, that wasn't actually cool, it was just a wrap around shot of characters, that's not some amazing special effect. What makes that shot special was it was a culmination of 4 years worth of hype and build up, a throw away line in Iron Man 1, which lets be honest when they filmed it probably no one really thought it would happen... all of that was actually put on the screen. I say all of that to say Avengers 1 was less a great movie and more a great event! It showed superhero shared universe franchises are a real thing, and this is awesome that there is pay off to watching all the smaller films. Avengers 2 as a movie was just a good... but not as exciting as a big event. There was no build up and no pay off, it was just a movie. A decent enough movie, but just a movie. I personally liked it more than Avengers 1, but that's me. you make a lot of sense to me --- This party's gettin' crazy NNID: LLBCrook - PSN/Steam: ZBugCrook <cite>ZBug_ posted [p:939283473] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>hmnut7 posted... </cite> <quote>Came to say this! I was the only person I knew who did not think Avengers 1 was the greatest film in the history of film. It was a good movie, it was not the end all be all of film. And normally when I debate with fanboys who claimed it was the greatest film ever, their reason why it was the best film ever, is "OMG the wrap around shot with all the Avengers standing there was so cool." And I get that... but the thing is, that wasn't actually cool, it was just a wrap around shot of characters, that's not some amazing special effect. What makes that shot special was it was a culmination of 4 years worth of hype and build up, a throw away line in Iron Man 1, which lets be honest when they filmed it probably no one really thought it would happen... all of that was actually put on the screen. I say all of that to say Avengers 1 was less a great movie and more a great event! It showed superhero shared universe franchises are a real thing, and this is awesome that there is pay off to watching all the smaller films. Avengers 2 as a movie was just a good... but not as exciting as a big event. There was no build up and no pay off, it was just a movie. A decent enough movie, but just a movie. I personally liked it more than Avengers 1, but that's me.</quote>you make a lot of sense to me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 05/17/20 3:03:20 PM #42:	I really really want Whedon to direct the next Spider-Man movie. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:939300667] in age of ult... [t:78690147]...</cite> <quote>I really really want Whedon to direct the next Spider-Man movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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