Poll of the Day > Ahmaud Arbery (jogger) called the n word after he was murdered

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Metalsonic66
06/04/20 4:43:28 PM
#51:


deoxxys posted...
Probably run towards the nearest person or house to ask for shelter from nutjobs chasing me with a gun.
He tried to run away. They were HUNTING him.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 4:44:10 PM
#52:


EvilMegas posted...
Cool, guess everyone is dropping facades itt
How am I dropping a facade?

I think what I have said is pretty plain.

I think you are trying to infer too much from nothing dude.

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 4:45:34 PM
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You're literally victim blaming.

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HelIWithoutSin
06/04/20 4:45:51 PM
#54:


deoxxys posted...
Probably run towards the nearest person or house to ask for shelter from nutjobs chasing me with a gun.

And maybe he did that and it didn't work. Or maybe he didn't do that because these racist nutjobs came out of those houses.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 4:49:00 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
He tried to run away. They were HUNTING him.
I mean yeah but a vehicle cant go offroad, and they didnt actually shoot him til he tried to fight them.

Were I in the same position I would think they would hold off shooting long enough for me to get help from someone at a residence.

I dont feel like I should have to say this last part but I will since people like EvilMegas seem to be making assumptions about my character. I still think the guys in the truck should go to jail for killing him. I am just out here doing what I always do, playing devils advocate. I simply think there was a scenario in which he could have got away from them with his life.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 4:51:19 PM
#56:


HelIWithoutSin posted...
And maybe he did that and it didn't work. Or maybe he didn't do that because these racist nutjobs came out of those houses.
Maybe but that would seem like he would have to be in an isolated area or out in the country where houses are more far apart. Was it not in a neighborhood devolpment where this occurred?

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SpeedDemon20
06/04/20 4:51:39 PM
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Victim blaming. Nice.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 4:53:12 PM
#58:


SpeedDemon20 posted...
Victim blaming. Nice.
I never said anywhere its his own fault for where he ended up, I simply said confronting them was probably not the best scenario in which he could have kept his life.

Do you think you could confront two armed men while unarmed and keep your life? That sounds like the most dangerous choice.

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 4:54:39 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I never said anywhere its his own fault for where he ended up, I simply said confronting them was probably not the best scenario in which he could have kept his life.

Do you think you could confront two armed men while unarmed and keep your life? That sounds like the most dangerous choice.
So, it's his fault?

I'm not victim blaming, but....
*proceeds to victim blame*

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deoxxys
06/04/20 4:56:20 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
So, it's his fault?
>Just finishes saying its not his fault, you ask if its his fault.
I think you already got your answer.


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EvilMegas
06/04/20 4:57:49 PM
#63:


deoxxys posted...
I never said anywhere its his own fault for where he ended up, I simply said confronting them was probably not the best scenario in which he could have kept his life.

In the same sentence lol

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deoxxys
06/04/20 4:58:05 PM
#64:


Zangulus posted...
Its literally called the fight of flight response. But the fact ultimately remains that he never should have been put into that situation. Suggesting that he willfully chose the wrong option is just plain ridiculous.
I mean it was the wrong option though wasnt it? Because it ended up with him losing his life.

That is true though, no one should ever have to be put in that situation.

I guess I just was trying to put myself in his shoes and the last thing I would try to do is fight back unless I had a better chance.

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Krow_Incarnate
06/04/20 5:04:55 PM
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So I haven't been following this story, but why exactly are we taking it as face value?

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Metalsonic66
06/04/20 5:07:40 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I mean yeah but a vehicle cant go offroad, and they didnt actually shoot him til he tried to fight them.

Were I in the same position I would think they would hold off shooting long enough for me to get help from someone at a residence.
A truck can go offroad.

They were HUNTING HIM. They were not going to let him get help.

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 5:11:39 PM
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Guys he should have just outran the trucks and bullets. They do it in the movies all the time.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 5:15:49 PM
#70:


Metalsonic66 posted...
A truck can go offroad.

They were HUNTING HIM. They were not going to let him get help.

I think I have done as much theory crafting as I can handle for today. True a truck can go offroad, maybe he had no choice, maybe he didnt. I see plenty of nearby houses in the video. Though I only have one video to go off of and I wasnt there. This isnt a hill I want to die on, and discussion doesnt change the outcome but Im glad to have had a little discussion on it.

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Mead
06/04/20 5:17:31 PM
#71:


deoxxys posted...
yeah but he said he had no choice.

He chose to run towards the vehicle instead of away from it.

If there were guys with guns accusing me of crime I wouldnt run towards them in any capacity.

People have the right to defend themselves when threatened

what in the honest fuck is wrong with you

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Metalsonic66
06/04/20 5:20:22 PM
#73:


He had no choice

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 5:22:38 PM
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I don't think Arbery handled the situation that well, but how well could he be expected to handle it? Two rednecks with guns chasing you in a truck is going to make most people panic.

Also, the rednecks in question made far more questionable decisions. Like grabbing guns and trying to capture a guy they think might have stolen something.

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HornedLion
06/04/20 5:27:36 PM
#75:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
A gun does, and did, have the power to take lives. Typically you bend to power that is exerted over you so you don't get broken in half, but that's not what happened. Maybe try using your head instead of your heart in future.

This man has twisted and kinky fantasies.

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SilentSeph
06/04/20 5:27:57 PM
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They were chasing him for over 4 minutes which is a very long time to be running away from a truck. He was also jogging beforehand and was struck by the truck. There was no reason for him to believe they were going to suddenly leave him alone if he kept running away, and he probably didn't even have the strength to keep running. Not to mention the confusion and fear he must've been feeling the whole time

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Mead
06/04/20 5:30:10 PM
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Imagine if the races were reversed

the maga crowd would be going supernova calling for slavery to come back probably

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Yellow
06/04/20 5:36:57 PM
#78:


SilentSeph posted...
They were chasing him for over 4 minutes
Oh my god everything I hear just makes the conclusion painfully more obvious yet some people just can't grasp it

Just for my own sanity, I know a lot of people realized they were wrong judging by the small number of people still arguing against this jogger's innocence (and we don't have to prove his innocence, we should be proving the shooter's innocence), those people should speak out, admit they were wrong and own being correct now.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 5:41:54 PM
#79:


Mead posted...
People have the right to defend themselves when threatened

what in the honest fuck is wrong with you
I already said I was done with discussion but I am not going to sit here and let you offend me for suggesting he had an alternative to confrontation.

I state this while keeping in mind I have already stated that the truck driving killers made the worst decision here.

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Yellow
06/04/20 5:46:00 PM
#80:


deoxxys posted...
I already said I was done with discussion but I am not going to sit here and let you offend me for suggesting he had an alternative to confrontation.
So you say he was murdered, but could have had a different reaction to save his life?

I mean, hindsight is 20/20, he didn't know that they weren't just going to kill him on catching him, but I'm personally ok with that as long as you realize he was murdered.

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deoxxys
06/04/20 5:48:56 PM
#81:


Yellow posted...
So you say he was murdered, but could have had a different reaction to save his life?
Yeah, pretty much, though it was hypothetical scenarios we were discussing earlier in the topic.

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 5:58:06 PM
#82:


Mead posted...
Imagine if the races were reversed

the maga crowd would be going supernova calling for slavery to come back probably
You think the reverse has never happened before? It wasn't even that long ago a group of black people kidnapped and tortured a white guy in Chicago.

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Mead
06/04/20 5:58:59 PM
#83:


deoxxys posted...
I already said I was done with discussion but I am not going to sit here and let you offend me for suggesting he had an alternative to confrontation.

I state this while keeping in mind I have already stated that the truck driving killers made the worst decision here.


youre blaming the victim for being murdered by murderers

if someone tries to kill you, it isnt bad or wrong to try and stop them from killing you

you say he should have just run away, while ignoring that he was attempting to do EXACTLY THAT

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 6:00:38 PM
#84:


ninja_lootz posted...
You think the reverse has never happened before? It wasn't even that long ago a group of black people kidnapped and tortured a white guy in Chicago.
Did those guys work with police to get off Scot free until the entire internet stepped in?

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Blightzkrieg
06/04/20 6:02:22 PM
#85:


EvilMegas posted...
Did those guys work with police to get off Scot free until the entire internet stepped in?
If Hillary was elected they damn well might have

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 6:03:37 PM
#86:


EvilMegas posted...
Did those guys work with police to get off Scot free until the entire internet stepped in?
That's a different problem entirely.

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 6:04:27 PM
#87:


ninja_lootz posted...
That's a different problem entirely.
Lolwut?

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Yellow
06/04/20 6:04:38 PM
#88:


ninja_lootz posted...
That's a different problem entirely.
So let's get the record straight, are you claiming this is not a murder, or just saving some kind of face?

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Jen0125
06/04/20 6:08:48 PM
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Seriously acting like they wouldn't have just shot him in his back as he ran away.

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 6:28:42 PM
#90:


Yellow posted...
So let's get the record straight, are you claiming this is not a murder, or just saving some kind of face?
What?

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Yellow
06/04/20 6:40:07 PM
#91:


ninja_lootz posted...
What?
Do you, or do you not, believe that Ahmaud Arbery was murdered?

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 7:10:18 PM
#92:


Yellow posted...
Do you, or do you not, believe that Ahmaud Arbery was murdered?
It's definitely the rednecks' fault that Arbery died. I don't know if what they did constitutes murder, though. That's up to a jury.

3rd degree murder might be appropriate.

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BlackScythe0
06/04/20 7:13:43 PM
#93:


ninja_lootz posted...
It's definitely the rednecks' fault that Arbery died. I don't know if what they did constitutes murder, though. That's up to a jury.

3rd degree murder might be appropriate.
Its definitely murder
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Metalsonic66
06/04/20 7:15:34 PM
#94:


Holy shit dood

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SunWuKung420
06/04/20 8:37:48 PM
#95:


ninja_lootz posted...
I don't know if what they did constitutes murder, though.

Running a guy down with your vehicle then shooting him when he tries to defend himself is definitely murder.

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BlackScythe0
06/04/20 8:39:15 PM
#96:


deoxxys posted...
I never said anywhere its his own fault for where he ended up, I simply said confronting them was probably not the best scenario in which he could have kept his life.

Do you think you could confront two armed men while unarmed and keep your life? That sounds like the most dangerous choice.
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MeteoricBurst
06/04/20 8:40:46 PM
#97:


EvilMegas posted...
Another reminder he also was glad that guy who jumped out of the bushes and scared his relative was shot and killed by him.

Yeah I remember this one and I don't even come here too often. He was also glad when some gay guy killed himself when the guy's best friend outed him to everybody in town over a petty spat. This Kyuubi guy is really messed up and not in the terrible lulz troll way. Like actually sick in the head.

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 8:41:25 PM
#98:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Running a guy down with your vehicle then shooting him when he tries to defend himself is definitely murder.
Yeah, probably.

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MeteoricBurst
06/04/20 8:52:52 PM
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Just read through some more and saw that deoxxys guys laughable garbage. Talking about what he would and wouldn't do in such a situation. Bitch you would be shitting yourself or having a panic attack. It's easy to be logical with your ass sat down typing whatever you feel like on a keyboard. Most people that don't have some kinda training will always panic in such cazy situations.


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EvilMegas
06/04/20 9:00:19 PM
#100:


He couldn't even handle being called out on a message board but thinks he would be Jason Bourne irl

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deoxxys
06/04/20 9:46:46 PM
#101:


Wow how dare I make suggestions about how a man could have stayed alive, but instead you all are so damn adamant how he was going to die no matter what, what a bunch of bitter negative people.

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