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SocialistGamer
06/23/20 1:23:38 PM
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https://twitter.com/MitchyD/status/1275458024384221184
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Propane4Sale
06/23/20 1:29:36 PM
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The fuck did this come from all of a sudden???

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Jabodie
06/23/20 1:31:56 PM
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Gamer gate is BACK baby. Ethics in games journalism!

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Were_Wyrm
06/23/20 1:31:57 PM
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But I thought gaming journalism was ethical!!!

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ASithLord7
06/23/20 1:37:50 PM
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Jabodie posted...
Gamer gate is BACK baby. Ethics in games journalism!

Were_Wyrm posted...
But I thought gaming journalism was ethical!!!

hmm yes this seems like a good reason to resume harassing and threatening female journalists with the goal of getting them to commit suicide

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Jabodie
06/23/20 1:39:55 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
hmm yes this seems like a good reason to resume harassing and threatening female journalists with the goal of getting them to commit suicide
Just give me a Twitter handle and I'll get to work.

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sevihaimerej
06/23/20 1:40:37 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
hmm yes this seems like a good reason to resume harassing and threatening female journalists with the goal of getting them to commit suicide
How many female journalists did they manage to convince to suicide again? I should remember this...

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ASithLord7
06/23/20 1:52:55 PM
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sevihaimerej posted...
How many female journalists did they manage to convince to suicide again? I should remember this...
Manage? None. But the movement started with the express goal of getting Quinn to kill herself.

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CyricZ
06/23/20 1:57:04 PM
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Well now.

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Veggeta X
06/23/20 1:59:37 PM
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LMAO they are being rekted

https://twitter.com/inkydojikko/status/1275296031119310848

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sevihaimerej
06/23/20 2:04:45 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Manage? None. But the movement started with the express goal of getting Quinn to kill herself.
Lol no, that was Quinnspiracy (wasn't aware they wanted her to suicide but I didn't really care about Quinnspiracy). Gamergate began with the "Gamers Are Dead" articles all releasing at the same time which sparked the initial idea that there was some much bigger shit going on. GG absorbed some members of the Quinnspiracy but they are two very different entities.

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Veggeta X
06/23/20 2:05:33 PM
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IGN is finished. Can I invite them to GameFAQs?

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Zack_Attackv1
06/23/20 2:07:06 PM
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IGN is full of shit.
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Smashingpmkns
06/23/20 2:12:49 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
LMAO they are being rekted

https://twitter.com/inkydojikko/status/1275296031119310848


Wonder who the "reaction guy" is that she mentioned.
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Gheb
06/23/20 2:13:00 PM
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sevihaimerej posted...
Lol no, that was Quinnspiracy (wasn't aware they wanted her to suicide but I didn't really care about Quinnspiracy). Gamergate began with the "Gamers Are Dead" articles all releasing at the same time which sparked the initial idea that there was some much bigger shit going on. GG absorbed some members of the Quinnspiracy but they are two very different entities.
That feels a bit like revisionist history.

Don't get me wrong, I have zero doubt that there are people in the early Gamergate controversy who legitimately did just want changes to gaming journalism (because it is generally not very good), but any of those voices were pretty quickly drowned out by the people who were just raging about SJWs and female voices in the video game industry and those people proudly wore the Gamergate label, to the point that "Actually, it's about ethics in video game journalism" is a joke.

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Jorep
06/23/20 2:23:41 PM
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LOL
Gamergate was a psyop by videogames journalist to stay relevant in an unprofitable industry and the community fell for it.

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Jiggy101011
06/23/20 2:25:33 PM
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So basically they added rumors that were unfound to drive clicks to Mitch's story. No idea who Steve Butts or Tal Blevins is though. Looking at the thread they were part of a marketing team at IGN?

Also IGN used to be a toxic work environment and doesn't pay its staff enough? Not shocked at all. All of those guys working in the San Fran office commute into work, or they room with 4 other people.

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Doom_Art
06/23/20 2:27:23 PM
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I figured that Druckman/Hennig story was fake judging by the sorts of people spreading it around

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Veggeta X
06/23/20 2:30:34 PM
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It's a good thing Ceej and Allen never made GameFAQs big into social media.

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Jiggy101011
06/23/20 2:32:00 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Wonder who the "reaction guy" is that she mentioned.

Also would like to know this.

Veggeta X posted...
IGN is finished. Can I invite them to GameFAQs?

Finished over what? Those people don't work there any longer. I do wonder though what made this all come out? From what I gather Steve and Tal haven't worked at IGN for awhile now.

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Veggeta X
06/23/20 2:36:24 PM
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I dunno about IGN but the people who hires dumb fucks at my company are subjected to be evaluated for hiring dumb fucks.

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sevihaimerej
06/23/20 2:41:42 PM
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Gheb posted...
That feels a bit like revisionist history.

Don't get me wrong, I have zero doubt that there are people in the early Gamergate controversy who legitimately did just want changes to gaming journalism (because it is generally not very good), but any of those voices were pretty quickly drowned out by the people who were just raging about SJWs and female voices in the video game industry and those people proudly wore the Gamergate label, to the point that "Actually, it's about ethics in video game journalism" is a joke.
Oh yes, any focus on journalism was quickly drown out but at inception it was a separate movement than the Quinnspiracy is my point. Also, that spin about "female voices" isn't quite accurate, it was specifically feminist voices in the industry that they viewed as anti-male and would thus rail against. Some legitimate criticisms of feminism were there but mostly blind vitriol because....well, it was on Twitter and that's just how Twitter operates I guess


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BakonBitz
06/23/20 3:01:56 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I figured that Druckman/Hennig story was fake judging by the sorts of people spreading it around

And it's also telling on who easily believed it. When I first heard of it I was skeptical, but some people have a hatred for Druckmann based entirely off that fabrication.
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Veggeta X
06/23/20 3:02:35 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
And it's also telling on who easily believed it. When I first heard of it I was skeptical, but some people have a hatred for Druckmann based entirely off that fabrication.
Everyone jumped on the hate train. It's so cool to be hateful.

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ASithLord7
06/23/20 3:11:51 PM
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sevihaimerej posted...
Lol no, that was Quinnspiracy (wasn't aware they wanted her to suicide but I didn't really care about Quinnspiracy). Gamergate began with the "Gamers Are Dead" articles all releasing at the same time which sparked the initial idea that there was some much bigger shit going on. GG absorbed some members of the Quinnspiracy but they are two very different entities.
Im not gonna relitigate this alt-right bullshit 6 years later but this is 100% false and blatant revisionism. Shut the fuck up

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CruelBuffalo
06/23/20 3:17:56 PM
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Whats going on?
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yusiko
06/23/20 4:46:28 PM
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Gheb posted...
That feels a bit like revisionist history.


cause it is
you were right the first time, gamergate was a continuation of the quinnspiracy and at no point was ever a serious movement
it was always about harassing women involved in games and the ethics in gaming journalism was a blatant lie used to deflect criticism since when people would point out they were being sexist assholes they could say "no we just care about ethics"
a few people got suckered into believing this lie at first but people who actually cared about ethics eventually realized what they had become involved with and left the hate movement

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Tyranthraxus
06/23/20 4:51:27 PM
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In addition to what's been said, many people outright targeted by Gamergate's antagonism on Day 1 were actually staunch activists about ethics in game journalism themselves.

Take a look at Adam Sessler for a moment who has basically never not been shit on by the GG community over crap like his complaining of the God of War Trophy.

He's made several lengthy videos about why Metacritic is fucking garbage and ruining the industry but nobody in GG ever wanted to talk about that for some reason. \_()_/

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Darmik
06/23/20 5:27:09 PM
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The sucky thing about this rumor was that nobody involved could say anything due to the NDA's.

The amount of shit made up about Druckmann and Naughty Dog has gotten so ridiculous at this point and it's crazy it all goes back to when IGN added some gossip to an article for more clicks.

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CADE FOSTER
06/23/20 5:30:53 PM
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Ign lied hopefully they get sued to death and are forced to close up shop fucking scumbags
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Cookie Bag
06/23/20 5:36:31 PM
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GG started as the whole ethics in game journalism first but it got turned into a shitshow so fast people don't even know anymore what is real and just defaulted to "it was just a made up movement to be assholes towards people" lol

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Prestoff
06/23/20 5:37:56 PM
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Wait, so what was the made up story?

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Tyranthraxus
06/23/20 5:39:41 PM
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Cookie Bag posted...
GG started as the whole ethics in game journalism first but it got turned into a shitshow so fast people don't even know anymore what is real and just defaulted to "it was just a made up movement to be assholes towards people" lol

Well the sex-for-review bullshit was proven fake. The five guys thing may or may not have happened but I'm going to lean on the side of didn't happen as there's no fucking evidence of it whatsoever.

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Darmik
06/23/20 5:43:26 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Wait, so what was the made up story?

That Neil Druckmann and Bruce Straley forced Amy Hennig off Uncharted 4 so they could take over the project.

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Prestoff
06/23/20 5:49:02 PM
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Darmik posted...
That Neil Druckmann and Bruce Straley forced Amy Hennig off Uncharted 4 so they could take over the project.

Oh that story, yeah I knew it was bullshit. It honestly felt like one of those stories trying to turn a person you dislike into the next hitler or something.

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ASithLord7
06/23/20 5:50:18 PM
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Cookie Bag posted...
GG started as the whole ethics in game journalism first but it got turned into a shitshow so fast people don't even know anymore what is real and just defaulted to "it was just a made up movement to be assholes towards people" lol
It literally fucking started based on a blatant lie. Quit.

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Cookie Bag
06/23/20 6:20:42 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Well the sex-for-review bullshit was proven fake. The five guys thing may or may not have happened but I'm going to lean on the side of didn't happen as there's no fucking evidence of it whatsoever.
yeah they just latched onto that even if it was proven fake and it just devolved even further, its just so stupid to think about it at this point.

ASithLord7 posted...
It literally fucking started based on a blatant lie. Quit.
Who pissed on your cereal that you're so angry about this

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ASithLord7
06/23/20 6:26:24 PM
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Cookie Bag posted...
yeah they just latched onto that even if it was proven fake and it just devolved even further, its just so stupid to think about it at this point.

Who pissed on your cereal that you're so angry about this
Why do I find it irritating that after 6 years people are still spreading an easily debunked misogynistic lie?

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evil_zombie11
06/23/20 6:28:26 PM
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Very interesting, Amy Hennig leaving ND was confusing to me. Loved her work on Legacy of Kain. Gonna follow this for sure.

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Abiz_
06/23/20 6:40:05 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Im not gonna relitigate this alt-right bullshit 6 years later but this is 100% false and blatant revisionism. Shut the fuck up
People were pissed off at gaming journalist. They gave high scores to buggy as fuck games like BF 4. Part of GG in the beginning was about these sites being shit and having way to much of a personal connection with the developers. It just quickly turned into a shit show. Like we all saw, but stfu about it being one thing. You are clueless. Your revisionism is bs. These sites all shrunk pretty much as a result of gamers losing faith in journalism besides IGN.
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ASithLord7
06/23/20 6:45:37 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
People were pissed off at gaming journalist. They gave high scores to buggy as fuck games like BF 4. Part of GG in the beginning was about these sites being shit and having way to much of a personal connection with the developers. It just quickly turned into a shit show. Like we all saw, but stfu about it being one thing. You are clueless. Your revisionism is bs. These sites all shrunk pretty much as a result of gamers losing faith in journalism besides IGN.
Factually incorrect. Shut the fuck up and educate yourself before posting this drivel.

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Darmik
06/23/20 6:46:12 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
People were pissed off at gaming journalist. They gave high scores to buggy as fuck games like BF 4.

That was almost an entire year before Gamergate. AAA games were barely targeted or talked about from Gamergate. It was always focused in anti-feminism and not having politics in games or game sites.

Abiz_ posted...
Part of GG in the beginning was about these sites being shit and having way to much of a personal connection with the developers. It just quickly turned into a shit show.

It quickly turned into a shit show because the personal connection you're talking about was a feminist indie developer who released a free game which was briefly mentioned in a list article on Rock Paper Scissors and she slept with the writer. Of course that's actually the legit version. The real reason was because her ex-boyfriend released a manifesto about her and the campaign launched from there. It was a shit show from the very beginning.

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sevihaimerej
06/23/20 6:48:17 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Factually incorrect. Shut the fuck up and educate yourself before posting this drivel.
https://youtu.be/wXCkxlqFd90

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Abiz_
06/23/20 6:54:42 PM
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Darmik posted...
It quickly turned into a shit show because the personal connection you're talking about was a feminist indie developer who released a free game which was briefly mentioned in a list article on Rock Paper Scissors and she slept with the writer
She slept with the writer for Kotaku. Who was promoting her game jam. That she raised money for multiple times but never delivered. Can't say I can blame her for not delivering after GG.

Darmik posted...
That was almost an entire year before Gamergate. AAA games were barely targeted or talked about from Gamergate. It was always focused in anti-feminism and not having politics in games or game sites.
Yeah, and it pissed off people that no bugs were mentioned and they went to Island to preview the online gameplay. Console gamers weren't used to a game crashing their system like BF4 did. It was just a example.
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Smashingpmkns
06/23/20 6:58:11 PM
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Wait so what's the connection between this and gamergate? Lol why are we still fucking talking about gamergate
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Darmik
06/23/20 6:58:37 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
She slept with the writer for Kotaku. Who was promoting her game jam.

In what way? People were never able to actually link to this article.

Abiz_ posted...
eah, and it pissed off people that no bugs were mentioned and they went to private Island preview the online gameplay. Console gamers weren't used to a game crashing their system like BF4 did. It was just a example.

It also had nothing to do with Gamergate. DoritosGate was a controversy not long before Gamergate about journalists that also had nothing to do with Gamergate.

Smashingpmkns posted...
Wait so what's the connection between this and gamergate? Lol why are we still fucking talking about gamergate

Absolutely nothing. I guess Anita Sarkeesian was praised by Druckmann at one point. That's about it.

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Smashingpmkns
06/23/20 7:00:35 PM
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Darmik posted...
DoritosGate

Ugh please tell me you're making this one up
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Darmik
06/23/20 7:04:31 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Ugh please tell me you're making this one up

Nope lol.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos

It was launched from this. An article from Eurogamer that pointed out that several reviewers and journalists eventually get hired to be PR for publishers. That how can the medium be taken seriously when Geoff Keighley who is often seen as the face of games media sits around Doritos. One of the journalists hit him with a cease and desist over it. It was a perfect example of what Gamergate claimed to be about. But it wasn't about attacking feminism so they didn't care and it's only ever brought up as a Doritos Pope meme these days.

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Abiz_
06/23/20 7:06:38 PM
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Darmik posted...
In what way? People were never able to actually link to this article.
In what way what? Also pretty ridiculous expecting me to link to a article from years ago.
Darmik posted...
It also had nothing to do with Gamergate. DoritosGate was a controversy not long before Gamergate about journalists that also had nothing to do with Gamergate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e78JRIHRjC0

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