Poll of the Day > Visualize the following entirely in your head.

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OniRonin
07/19/20 4:59:25 PM
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Read the message body, then answer the question





Do not draw or write anything, just use your mind. Picture a pair of cubes. The two cubes are connected by a bar through their middle, like a dumbbell. Imagine that the dumbbell object is floating in front of you, one cube close to you, the other directly away from you. Now, imagine that the cube nearest you is red, and the cube furthest from you is blue. Picture the dumbbell built of two cube and a rod begins to rotate, the near, red cube, dropping down and away, and the blue, far cube, rotating up and nearer. The dumbbell continues so that it now stands vertical, in front of you, the red cube on the bottom, the blue cube on the top. Continue this direction of rotation, end over end, three times exactly, starting with that state where the red cube was on the bottom, and the blue cube was on the top. What is the position of either cube, red or blue?

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SpeeDLeemon
07/19/20 5:03:33 PM
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Krow_Incarnate
07/19/20 5:04:17 PM
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If you rotate it three times the exact same way, you're right where you started with the red cube in front of you and the blue cube away.

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SpeeDLeemon
07/19/20 5:06:55 PM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...
If you rotate it three times the exact same way, you're right where you started with the red cube in front of you and the blue cube away.
end over end.......

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Krow_Incarnate
07/19/20 5:11:26 PM
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Ah, I see. In that case, red would be on top.

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Yellow
07/19/20 5:17:45 PM
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I did it and figured it out.

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wolfy42
07/19/20 5:35:18 PM
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This can be tricky, you say the cubes rotate until the red is on the bottom and the blue is on the top. The red would be on the top first based on the rotation you state (the red is moving up and blue down), which means the initial rotation would be 90 degrees and 180 degrees for a total of 270 degrees.

IF you continued rotating 3 x the same amount, neither would be on top.

Therefore, you must mean just rotating 180 degrees each time. If blue starts on top, the first rotation would put red on top, second blue, and third red again.

So you would end up with red on the top at that point.

If you did mean to do it 270% each time Red would be away from you and blue would be near you.

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zebatov
07/19/20 5:38:42 PM
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Not helping with your final exam for grade three dude.

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OniRonin
07/19/20 6:02:31 PM
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zebatov posted...
Not helping with your final exam for grade three dude.

i'm 14, genius. i graduated from 3rd grade like 5 years ago. besides school isnt even running right now, it's july...

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Krow_Incarnate
07/19/20 6:12:07 PM
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LMAO

Well, this certainly explains a lot beyond this topic.

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MrMelodramatic
07/19/20 6:13:11 PM
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Wheres the option for blue on top

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Krow_Incarnate
07/19/20 6:13:49 PM
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Also, if you're 14 now you would've created that account before you were 12

MODS!!!

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Mead
07/19/20 6:14:00 PM
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Where else do people visualize things other than in their head?

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OniRonin
07/19/20 6:14:15 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
Wheres the option for blue on top
there are 2 options for that

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OniRonin
07/19/20 6:17:29 PM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...
LMAO

Well, this certainly explains a lot beyond this topic.
yeah i know im getting pretty old... but I can still pwn you in a debate, Krow!

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TheWitchMorgana
07/19/20 6:18:17 PM
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aint this from that one test that tells you if youre trans or not

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DirtBasedSoap
07/19/20 6:18:19 PM
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mind = blown

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OniRonin
07/19/20 6:22:00 PM
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Mead posted...
Where else do people visualize things other than in their head?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visualization_software
for example,modeling the objects in blender and rotating them would be cheating
TheWitchMorgana posted...
aint this from that one test that tells you if youre trans or not
yeah lol, the one that calls you a 'transgenderist' if you have good hearing

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wolfy42
07/19/20 6:42:37 PM
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Mead posted...
Where else do people visualize things other than in their head?


When younger I used to visualize "things" in my bed all the time.

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Yellow
07/19/20 7:16:23 PM
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OniRonin posted...
yeah lol, the one that calls you a 'transgenderist' if you have good hearing
If I get it right am I trans?

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OniRonin
07/19/20 7:19:17 PM
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Yellow posted...
If I get it right am I trans?
from my understanding of the test author's crazy shit, no. if you're an AMAB person questioning your gender, being good at math or visualizing space means you're an androgyne or a transgenderist instead of a 'real transsexual'. its a bit odd !!
http://transsexual.org/cogiati_english.html

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ParanoidObsessive
07/19/20 7:27:42 PM
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Continue this direction of rotation, end over end, three times exactly

This is the main sticking point. How you define "rotation" is going to change how far it moves.

Does "one rotation" mean a full 360-degree turn (which is what the word rotation usually means, as per RPM)? If so, the number of rotations doesn't matter, the end result will be the same as the position when you start rotating.

Does "one rotation" mean a 180-degree turn (which could be seen as the cubes changing position)? If so, then the end position of an odd number of rotations will always be the opposite of the starting position.

Does "one rotation" mean a 90-degree turn, like the one you've already described (from horizontal to vertical)? If so, three rotations turns the red cube back to face you, the way it was before you started rotating.

Ambiguous wording kind of makes the question insoluble. Or at least incredibly subjective.
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OniRonin
07/19/20 7:29:01 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
This is the main sticking point. How you define "rotation" is going to change how far it moves.

Does "one rotation" mean a full 360-degree turn (which is what the word rotation usually means, as per RPM)? If so, the number of rotations doesn't matter, the end result will be the same as the position when you start rotating.

Does "one rotation" mean a 180-degree turn (which could be seen as the cubes changing position)? If so, then the end position of an odd number of rotations will always be the opposite of the starting position.

Does "one rotation" mean a 90-degree turn, like the one you've already described (from horizontal to vertical)? If so, three rotations turns the red cube back to face you, the way it was before you started rotating.

Ambiguous wording kind of makes the question insoluble. Or at least incredibly subjective.
then simply answer "(+10) I cannot follow this at all. How am I supposed to understand this?"

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TheWitchMorgana
07/19/20 8:24:37 PM
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Your COGIATI result value is: 155 Which means that you fall within the following category:
COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL

What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' tanssexual.

yeah baby

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wolfy42
07/19/20 8:26:37 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
yeah baby


Are you from Translevania?

I heard the best transexuals come from there.

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TheWitchMorgana
07/19/20 8:28:03 PM
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i gotta admit, wolfy. that joke didn't really work

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OniRonin
07/19/20 10:27:55 PM
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i got 95 (Androgyne). simply too old and too good at math to be a real transsexual :/

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wolfy42
07/19/20 10:45:55 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
i gotta admit, wolfy. that joke didn't really work


No worries, I expect a few to totally blow, I don't really plan them out ahead of time, they just kinda.....flop out when my hands touch my keyboard.

Also, I never get to make Rocky Horror refrences, so I gotta fit em in somehow.

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Sahuagin
07/19/20 10:48:23 PM
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only with the help of all the comments, I would say that "end over end three times exactly" can only mean 180-degrees x3, which will put red on top (or blue on the bottom).

otherwise, I would probably have guessed that to "continue the rotation" meant in 90-degree increments, but there is no option for red in front of you.

it seems to be intentionally confusing/misleading/ambiguous

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OniRonin
07/19/20 10:53:37 PM
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Sahuagin posted...
it seems to be intentionally confusing/misleading/ambiguous

i'm not sure. judging from the answer key and the author's 'interesting' beliefs on the topic, it seems like she intended for an 'end-over-end rotation' to definitely be 180 degrees. or at least, being certain it is 180 degrees is the most masculine answer lol

A. (-10) I am certain that the red cube is on top.
A. (-5) I think that the blue cube is on the bottom.
A. (0) I feel that the red cube is most likely on the bottom.
A. (5) I am not sure. This is pretty hard. Maybe the red cube is on the bottom?
A. (10) I cannot follow this at all. How am I supposed to understand this?


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Sahuagin
07/20/20 1:57:31 AM
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OniRonin posted...
A. (-10) I am certain that the red cube is on top.
A. (-5) I think that the blue cube is on the bottom.
A. (0) I feel that the red cube is most likely on the bottom.
A. (5) I am not sure. This is pretty hard. Maybe the red cube is on the bottom?
A. (10) I cannot follow this at all. How am I supposed to understand this?
ok, seems like the score is really about your stated degree of confidence and has nothing to do with the cubes or rotations or anything in the question.

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OniRonin
07/20/20 2:04:50 AM
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both the 'red cube on top' answers are below both the 'red cube on bottom' answers though

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SpeeDLeemon
07/20/20 2:06:45 AM
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wait do people really not know who TC is? lolol

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MrMelodramatic
07/20/20 2:17:36 AM
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OniRonin posted...
http://transsexual.org/cogiati_english.html
Your COGIATI result value is: -15 Which means that you fall within the following category:
COGIATI classification THREE, ANDROGYNE
What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially androgynous, both male and female at the same time, or possibly neither. In some cultures in history, you would be considered to be a third sex, independent of the polarities of masculine or feminine. Your gender issues are intrinsic to your construction, and you will most likely find your happiness playing with expressing both genders as you feel like it.

that test really nailed it
no sarcasm intended

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zebatov
07/20/20 11:21:31 AM
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OniRonin posted...
genius.

Thank you.

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Extreme_light
07/20/20 12:25:54 PM
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Blue cube is on the bottom

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Extreme_light
07/20/20 12:29:01 PM
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OniRonin posted...
i'm not sure. judging from the answer key and the author's 'interesting' beliefs on the topic, it seems like she intended for an 'end-over-end rotation' to definitely be 180 degrees. or at least, being certain it is 180 degrees is the most masculine answer lol
A. (-10) I am certain that the red cube is on top.
A. (-5) I think that the blue cube is on the bottom.
A. (0) I feel that the red cube is most likely on the bottom.
A. (5) I am not sure. This is pretty hard. Maybe the red cube is on the bottom?
A. (10) I cannot follow this at all. How am I supposed to understand this?


Oh mess I only voted blue cause that's the color I stuck with. I didn't even bother to focus on the options for word choices lol

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OniRonin
07/20/20 12:42:55 PM
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zebatov posted...
Thank you.
is this a reference to my 'genuis' bit

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zebatov
07/20/20 8:15:01 PM
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OniRonin posted...
is this a reference to my 'genuis' bit

Not at all. Thats why I quoted it.

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