Current Events > Democrats hate Trump, but for the wrong reasons.

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darkstar4221
07/21/20 3:12:09 PM
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https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/why-do-democrats-hate-donald-trump-so-much/

Trump is much more left wing than right wing. Above all else he's a conman, I don't understand how any fiscal conservative can support him when the federal budget under Trump is the largest in US history, and it's certainly making our country poorer.

Trump is on track to veto fewer bills than any president since Warren Harding who died after less than 30 months in office.
President Trumps budget is a budget that Democrats can be proud of. Not only is it the largest budget ever proposed in the history of the United States, with the largest deficit ever proposed, it would basically fund the welfare/warfare state much as it is now. What spending reductions it actually contains are offset by even greater spending increases. Two examples will suffice. One, the proposed budget for the Department of Homeland Security eliminates $535 million in unnecessary spending for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), but increases spending to $8.2 billion for the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), including pay raises for TSA workers. And two, Trumps budget eliminates funding for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH), and the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS). That is a good thing. However, the funding for those agencies is a less-than-minuscule part of the federal budget, and the money saved is squandered many times over by increased defense spending, including $69 billion for Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO), meaning foreign wars. Overall, Trumps budget has much for Democrats to be proud of. Here are just a few highlights:

  • Trumps budget requests $21.8 billion for the Department of Agriculture. In addition to funding the robust suite of farm safety-net programs, the Budget funds a variety of national, State, and local initiatives to help farmers succeed. And no wonder, since under the presidents budget roughly one-third of farm income will come from Government payments and crop insurance benefits.
  • Trumps budget requests $66.6 billion for the Department of Education. That includes $749 million in funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities, expanded eligibility for Pell Grants, and an additional $100 million in grants to states for special education services.
  • Trumps budget requests $94.5 billion for the Department of Health and Human Services. It includes $716 million for the second year of the multiyear initiative to eliminate new HIV infections in America, $1 billion for the states to fund child care and early learning, $225 million to improve community mental health services, and the creation of a new agency to focus on tobacco regulation. The president wants to protect and improve Medicare.
  • Trumps budget requests $25.2 billion for NASA, a 12 percent increase over last year, with robust funding for the programs that support the goal of returning astronauts to the moon and on to Mars.
  • Trumps budget invests in a better future for Americans with a proposal to provide paid leave to new mothers and fathers, including adoptive parents, so all families can afford to take time to recover from childbirth and bond with a new child.


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Doom_Art
07/21/20 3:16:21 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...


Trump is much more left wing than right wing.
Lol the disowning of Trump has already begun

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Bolle_Henk_
07/21/20 3:16:41 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
, I don't understand how any fiscal conservative can support him when the federal budget under Trump is the largest in US history,

As if conservatives really care about their country.

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pinky0926
07/21/20 3:17:11 PM
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Democrats hate Trump, but for the wrong reasons.

Which reason do you mean specifically, because last I checked it was every single reason

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TomNook20
07/21/20 3:18:41 PM
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Democrats could have gotten a lot done if they just didn't constantly attack trump. Kim K is a more effective politician than anyone in Washington.

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thronedfire2
07/21/20 3:19:25 PM
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he's on track to veto the least bills because none of them can get past the Senate

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FabIemaster
07/21/20 3:20:10 PM
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At this point is there really a wrong reason to hate Trump?

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hockeybub89
07/21/20 3:20:51 PM
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There is no wrong reason to hate him. Liking him is wrong.

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Doom_Art
07/21/20 3:21:02 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Democrats could have gotten a lot done if they just didn't constantly attack trump.
The whole "Democrats refuse to cooperate" stuff doesn't really hold up under scrutiny

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UnholyMudcrab
07/21/20 3:23:42 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
Trump is much more left wing than right wing.

Well, I'm already done reading this post.

This is why libertarians aren't taken seriously.
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iPhone_7
07/21/20 3:23:51 PM
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I thought he did tariffs with China that negatively affected our farmers, who then needed a bailout of their own.

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ButteryMales
07/21/20 3:27:51 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
fiscal conservative
That's just a lie to cut safety nets.
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Poop2
07/21/20 3:29:27 PM
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FabIemaster posted...
At this point is there really a wrong reason to hate Trump?

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ledbowman
07/21/20 3:31:06 PM
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he's not much more than a basic neoliberal like everybody else in both parties. they just don't like that he is rude to people in the club

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DrizztLink
07/21/20 3:31:19 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
Trumps budget eliminates funding for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH), and the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS). That is a good thing.
Why is that a good thing?

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TheOtherMike
07/21/20 3:31:24 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
Trump is much more left wing than right wing.

El oh fucking el.
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The23rdMagus
07/21/20 3:36:35 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Democrats could have gotten a lot done if they just didn't constantly attack trump.
Uh-huh. Everything the House brings up is tabled by Mitch. Wouldn't even reach the president*.

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Hexenherz
07/21/20 3:37:53 PM
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Pretty sure Trump will sign anything and everything that comes across his desk as long as it doesn't trigger one of his personal pet peeves or potentially cause a violation of one of his basic promises so that he can go on Twitter and say "the dems and their media are trying to stop me from living up to a promise to you!"

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pinky0926
07/21/20 4:11:55 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Why is that a good thing?

Republicans tend to have this romantic notion that art is done by bleeding poverty stricken tortured artists like Van Gogh or whatever

Therefore, funding programs that help enrich culture are bad, or something

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Phantom_Nook
07/21/20 4:15:30 PM
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with just the first fucking line, TC made it really easy to regard the entire post.

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darkstar4221
07/22/20 1:50:30 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
with just the first fucking line, TC made it really easy to regard the entire post.

How is Trump right-wing when he added more money to government programs like social security? He's a hypocrite, Trump says he's against socialism but he gives out $1200 paychecks (of printed money) to Americans who were laid off during the lock-down.

Government spending, inflation, and the poverty rate has all increased under Trump.
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pistachio12
07/22/20 2:09:14 AM
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darkstar4221 posted...
How is Trump right-wing when he added more money to government programs like social security? He's a hypocrite, Trump says he's against socialism but he gives out $1200 paychecks (of printed money) to Americans who were laid off during the lock-down.

Government spending, inflation, and the poverty rate has all increased under Trump.

Why ignore the first 20 posts to answer only the 21st one?
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MacadamianNut3
07/22/20 2:12:10 AM
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jumi
07/22/20 2:32:46 AM
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Republicans only care about the deficit if the president is a Democrat.

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davyheinz
07/22/20 2:34:31 AM
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FabIemaster posted...
At this point is there really a wrong reason to hate Trump?
Nope. Every reason is legit.

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