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red sox 777 08/12/20 2:10:25 PM #401:	Like, you want to know how the Republican Party is so effective at getting people to fall in line? Because they never tell voters they have to settle. They never tell voters they have no option but to vote for Republicans. People form that conclusion on their own. The Democrats have spent so much energy telling people on the left to settle - demanding that they settle. It's basically an admission that their candidate is bad and it's a really bad strategy that just drives people away. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943298094] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Like, you want to know how the Republican Party is so effective at getting people to fall in line? Because they never tell voters they have to settle. They never tell voters they have no option but to vote for Republicans. People form that conclusion on their own. The Democrats have spent so much energy telling people on the left to settle - demanding that they settle. It's basically an admission that their candidate is bad and it's a really bad strategy that just drives people away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 08/12/20 2:10:28 PM #402:	I like talking to you red sox but if we're going to start the lies about Trump being better for workers we will have to cease our lovely chats! --- Sir Chris Doom The Kanto Saga - Animated Series - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH4wNFCrLM <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:943298097] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>I like talking to you red sox but if we're going to start the lies about Trump being better for workers we will have to cease our lovely chats! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/12/20 2:16:13 PM #403:	DoomTheGyarados posted... I like talking to you red sox but if we're going to start the lies about Trump being better for workers we will have to cease our lovely chats! I'm calling what I see. If you disagree that Trump is financially better for workers than Biden, I'd be happy to hear how. I mean what Biden would realistically do (read: nothing), not what he is promising. Whereas Trump has already cut taxes for workers a lot. If we're going off of promises then I think Trump has promised so much economic growth/winning that he still wins, but then obviously that's an empty promise. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943298298] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>I like talking to you red sox but if we're going to start the lies about Trump being better for workers we will have to cease our lovely chats!</quote> I'm calling what I see. If you disagree that Trump is financially better for workers than Biden, I'd be happy to hear how. I mean what Biden would realistically do (read: nothing), not what he is promising. Whereas Trump has already cut taxes for workers a lot. If we're going off of promises then I think Trump has promised so much economic growth/winning that he still wins, but then obviously that's an empty promise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/12/20 2:28:15 PM #404:	HeroicCrono posted... Between payroll tax and student loan payments. It might be a bit lower since I just read that the Medicare portion of payroll tax isn't being affected. You aren't saving money on the student loan portion either. I don't understand how you got your number at all. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:943298767] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>HeroicCrono posted... </cite> <quote>Between payroll tax and student loan payments. It might be a bit lower since I just read that the Medicare portion of payroll tax isn't being affected.</quote>You aren't saving money on the student loan portion either. I don't understand how you got your number at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/12/20 2:34:17 PM #405:	Republicans absolutely tell voters they have to settle. They nominated Donald Trump for crying out loud, and ran on a platform of "He's not Hillary and/or an evil Democrat". Republicans don't care about protecting workers, the poor, the middle class, or anything like that. Their entire platform is running on identity politics of "we're AGAINST group X, group Y, and group Z" in order to convince poor people that the rich need more money while they themselves are struggling. But at least outsiders are being hurt worse. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:943298971] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Republicans absolutely tell voters they have to settle. They nominated Donald Trump for crying out loud, and ran on a platform of "He's not Hillary and/or an evil Democrat". Republicans don't care about protecting workers, the poor, the middle class, or anything like that. Their entire platform is running on identity politics of "we're AGAINST group X, group Y, and group Z" in order to convince poor people that the rich need more money while they themselves are struggling. But at least outsiders are being hurt worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 08/12/20 2:36:56 PM #406:	Ahh yes, Tax Cuts! Most of which went to the wealthy. But hey! They gave you minimum wage saps a little bit! So lick our boots like the good little scum you are! And be sure to stay out of our neighborhoods. Our property values will go down if black people, err I mean poor people live there. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:943299071] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Ahh yes, Tax Cuts! Most of which went to the wealthy. But hey! They gave you minimum wage saps a little bit! So lick our boots like the good little scum you are! And be sure to stay out of our neighborhoods. Our property values will go down if black people, err I mean poor people live there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/12/20 2:39:47 PM #407:	Corrik7 posted... You aren't saving money on the student loan portion either. I don't understand how you got your number at all. Okay let me rephrase. I am saving money if I am assuming a relatively high discount rate for money in the future vs money now. For instance, suppose I can make 10% per year with investments (or inflation runs at 10% a year, it's the same thing effectively). Then money now is worth 10% more than money next year. Money now is worth 2x the same money in 7 years. Money now is worth 4x the same amount of money in 14 years. I'd much rather pay 4 extra months in 15 years than 4 months now. The actual effect is greater than this because I'll (hopefully) be better able to afford those payments in 15 years. A dollar is worth more to me than to a millionaire, even at the same point in time. And the actual benefit is even greater than that because the probability that all these student loans are forgiven within 15 years is not trivial. If that happens, unless the government is going to pay back to people who have already paid off the loans what they paid, with significant interest, every dollar paid toward student loans now represents a straight loss. My number was based on how much more money I'll have in my bank account on January 1. Yes, you're right that it's too high in that the value of contributions to social security and student loan debt paydowns is not zero. But I think it actually is a lot closer to zero than to the face amount from an investment point of view. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943299193] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>You aren't saving money on the student loan portion either. I don't understand how you got your number at all.</quote> Okay let me rephrase. I am saving money if I am assuming a relatively high discount rate for money in the future vs money now. For instance, suppose I can make 10% per year with investments (or inflation runs at 10% a year, it's the same thing effectively). Then money now is worth 10% more than money next year. Money now is worth 2x the same money in 7 years. Money now is worth 4x the same amount of money in 14 years. I'd much rather pay 4 extra months in 15 years than 4 months now. The actual effect is greater than this because I'll (hopefully) be better able to afford those payments in 15 years. A dollar is worth more to me than to a millionaire, even at the same point in time. And the actual benefit is even greater than that because the probability that all these student loans are forgiven within 15 years is not trivial. If that happens, unless the government is going to pay back to people who have already paid off the loans what they paid, with significant interest, every dollar paid toward student loans now represents a straight loss. My number was based on how much more money I'll have in my bank account on January 1. Yes, you're right that it's too high in that the value of contributions to social security and student loan debt paydowns is not zero. But I think it actually is a lot closer to zero than to the face amount from an investment point of view. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 08/12/20 2:41:45 PM #408:	And let's not forget reducing worker rights right under their nose! Especially for LGBT, but worker safety goes out the window as well! All in the name of saving their employer money so they will MAYBE give them the table scraps (Ha! Who are we kidding. The employer will keep those for themselves, but don't tell the minimum wage scrubs that!) --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:943299261] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>And let's not forget reducing worker rights right under their nose! Especially for LGBT, but worker safety goes out the window as well! All in the name of saving their employer money so they will MAYBE give them the table scraps (Ha! Who are we kidding. The employer will keep those for themselves, but don't tell the minimum wage scrubs that!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 08/12/20 2:42:16 PM #409:	red sox 777 posted... Whereas Trump has already cut taxes for workers a lot. trump did not actually lower taxes for the vast majority of workers the super-rich? yes the only argument the trump camp makes is that cutting taxes for the wealthy has made the rich feel so generous as to pay their workers more --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:943299280] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>Whereas Trump has already cut taxes for workers a lot.</quote>trump did not actually lower taxes for the vast majority of workers the super-rich? yes the only argument the trump camp makes is that cutting taxes for the wealthy has made the rich feel so generous as to pay their workers more </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 08/12/20 2:44:26 PM #410:	Dont forget how uncomfortably close the American right wing is to theocracy. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:943299360] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Dont forget how uncomfortably close the American right wing is to theocracy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/12/20 2:45:09 PM #411:	And I'm reading sources that say they think the payroll tax thing actually is a cliff at 104k annual income, in which case I guess I'll only get the benefit of the student loan portion of that, which was a little more than half of the amount I quote earlier. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943299385] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>And I'm reading sources that say they think the payroll tax thing actually is a cliff at 104k annual income, in which case I guess I'll only get the benefit of the student loan portion of that, which was a little more than half of the amount I quote earlier. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/12/20 2:47:12 PM #412:	red sox 777 posted... For instance, suppose I can make 10% per year with investments Suppose your money deflates in that time period. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:943299456] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>For instance, suppose I can make 10% per year with investments</quote>Suppose your money deflates in that time period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/12/20 2:47:28 PM #413:	banananor posted... trump did not actually lower taxes for the vast majority of workers the super-rich? yes the only argument the trump camp makes is that cutting taxes for the wealthy has made the rich feel so generous as to pay their workers more Trump cut taxes for virtually everyone except those with high SALT deductions. I think about 83% of the total amount went to the top 1%, which isn't great but you know, workers wouldn't have accepted that offer if the Democrats had made a better one. They didn't. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943299468] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>banananor posted... </cite> <quote>trump did not actually lower taxes for the vast majority of workers the super-rich? yes the only argument the trump camp makes is that cutting taxes for the wealthy has made the rich feel so generous as to pay their workers more</quote> Trump cut taxes for virtually everyone except those with high SALT deductions. I think about 83% of the total amount went to the top 1%, which isn't great but you know, workers wouldn't have accepted that offer if the Democrats had made a better one. They didn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/12/20 2:48:17 PM #414:	Corrik7 posted... Suppose your money deflates in that time period. Then I'm better off paying the loan now. But given the historical performance of the dollar and the amount of money printing going on right now, that seems pretty unlikely. At least less likely than not. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943299491] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>Suppose your money deflates in that time period.</quote> Then I'm better off paying the loan now. But given the historical performance of the dollar and the amount of money printing going on right now, that seems pretty unlikely. At least less likely than not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 08/12/20 2:50:43 PM #415:	Inviso posted... Republicans absolutely tell voters they have to settle. They nominated Donald Trump for crying out loud, and ran on a platform of "He's not Hillary and/or an evil Democrat" No, they ran on a platform that their God Emperor will Make America Great Again. Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:943299582] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>Republicans absolutely tell voters they have to settle. They nominated Donald Trump for crying out loud, and ran on a platform of "He's not Hillary and/or an evil Democrat"</quote> No, they ran on a platform that their God Emperor will Make America Great Again. Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 08/12/20 2:57:06 PM #416:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle. That's because conservatives will believe anything their party tells them. I don't think the DNC's message overall is "Settle for Biden", that's the progressive messaging on Biden. We live in a country where the political compass is tilted so far to the right that Joe Biden may just be one of the most progressive candidates we've ever had. For progressives, settling is the best we can do right now. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:943299825] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle.</quote> That's because conservatives will believe anything their party tells them. I don't think the DNC's message overall is "Settle for Biden", that's the progressive messaging on Biden. We live in a country where the political compass is tilted so far to the right that Joe Biden may just be one of the most progressive candidates we've ever had. For progressives, settling is the best we can do right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 08/12/20 3:02:11 PM #417:	trdl23 posted... Dont forget how uncomfortably close the American right wing is to theocracy. always glossed over by the anti "identity politics" crowd isn't it --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:943300032] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>trdl23 posted... </cite> <quote>Dont forget how uncomfortably close the American right wing is to theocracy.</quote> always glossed over by the anti "identity politics" crowd isn't it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/12/20 3:02:29 PM #418:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... No, they ran on a platform that their God Emperor will Make America Great Again. Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle. Fair. I guess what I should have said is that Republicans lie to their voters are treat them like idiots by promising that their racist moron nominee is a god who will Make America Great Again despite accomplishing nothing he promised (or anything at all, outside of a massive tax cut to the super rich), while Democrats, to their detriment, are realistic and treat the voters with more respect (very much undeserved) for their intelligence, and don't go out of their way to promise the moon like they're running for class president and want pizza in the cafeteria every Friday. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:943300043] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>No, they ran on a platform that their God Emperor will Make America Great Again. Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle.</quote> Fair. I guess what I should have said is that Republicans lie to their voters are treat them like idiots by promising that their racist moron nominee is a god who will Make America Great Again despite accomplishing nothing he promised (or anything at all, outside of a massive tax cut to the super rich), while Democrats, to their detriment, are realistic and treat the voters with more respect (very much undeserved) for their intelligence, and don't go out of their way to promise the moon like they're running for class president and want pizza in the cafeteria every Friday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 08/12/20 3:08:16 PM #419:	i feel like "friday pizza" is a very realistic goal --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. <cite>NFUN posted [p:943300286] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>i feel like "friday pizza" is a very realistic goal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 08/12/20 3:10:38 PM #420:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle. I don't dispute this is the message but I DO think a lot of GOP voters are settling. If you ever read one of the 500 NYT pieces on Trump voters (don't do this I'm about to explain them all) there's always quotes upon quotes from people who think the Democratic platform will actually hurt them, or that they're very concerned about Trump but still feel obligated to vote, or the Christian evangelists who don't like Trump but on the other hand the Democrats are even more ungodly and we could really use more judges to stop abortion. It's taking a global pandemic to peel these people away (they still will probably come back though). I really don't think Trump has as many true believers as he and the media want us to think. Hate to be the both sides guy but I guess it's very similar to Biden's "most progressive platform in history" thing --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:943300388] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> Hillary was a perfect villain for him to battle, so to speak, but they are running very much on Trump being the greatest of all timeeven if its not true, theyre not telling anyone to settle.</quote> I don't dispute this is the message but I DO think a lot of GOP voters are settling. If you ever read one of the 500 NYT pieces on Trump voters (don't do this I'm about to explain them all) there's always quotes upon quotes from people who think the Democratic platform will actually hurt them, or that they're very concerned about Trump but still feel obligated to vote, or the Christian evangelists who don't like Trump but on the other hand the Democrats are even more ungodly and we could really use more judges to stop abortion. It's taking a global pandemic to peel these people away (they still will probably come back though). I really don't think Trump has as many true believers as he and the media want us to think. Hate to be the both sides guy but I guess it's very similar to Biden's "most progressive platform in history" thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 08/12/20 3:11:34 PM #421:	NFUN posted... i feel like "friday pizza" is a very realistic goal At our school, Pizza was an option every day. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:943300434] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>NFUN posted... </cite> <quote>i feel like "friday pizza" is a very realistic goal</quote> At our school, Pizza was an option every day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 08/12/20 3:26:47 PM #422:	red sox 777 posted... Like, you want to know how the Republican Party is so effective at getting people to fall in line? Because they never tell voters they have to settle. They never tell voters they have no option but to vote for Republicans. People form that conclusion on their own. There were literally yard signs and campaign posters in Georgia that said "Vote R no matter who" when I lived there. And whole ads about how the candidate doesnt matter only that they are Republican because all other votes are votes for the end of America and morality. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:943301011] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>Like, you want to know how the Republican Party is so effective at getting people to fall in line? Because they never tell voters they have to settle. They never tell voters they have no option but to vote for Republicans. People form that conclusion on their own.</quote> There were literally yard signs and campaign posters in Georgia that said "Vote R no matter who" when I lived there. And whole ads about how the candidate doesnt matter only that they are Republican because all other votes are votes for the end of America and morality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 08/12/20 3:30:52 PM #423:	One of the big Republican rallying cries was to get the Supreme Court seat no matter what. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:943301159] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>One of the big Republican rallying cries was to get the Supreme Court seat no matter what. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 08/12/20 3:34:52 PM #424:	trump is a president for the 1% so he's bad for workers. but biden sucks for workers too. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:943301300] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>trump is a president for the 1% so he's bad for workers. but biden sucks for workers too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/12/20 3:40:40 PM #425:	red13n posted... One of the big Republican rallying cries was to get the Supreme Court seat no matter what. Hell, in 2016 the big rallying cries were "Build The Wall" and "Lock Her Up". Truly, Trump's priorities were to the working class and not about pushing Republican identity politics. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:943301475] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>red13n posted... </cite> <quote>One of the big Republican rallying cries was to get the Supreme Court seat no matter what.</quote> Hell, in 2016 the big rallying cries were "Build The Wall" and "Lock Her Up". Truly, Trump's priorities were to the working class and not about pushing Republican identity politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 08/12/20 3:46:07 PM #426:	GuessMyUserName posted... I never understand the "morals" position from people relying on others to make the tough choices that they're to prideful to sully themselves with. this so much The primaries are one thing. That's absolutely a battle of ideas/vision and voting your heart. But once that's over and it's the general the cold reality is that there are only two outcomes and you can either make the pragmatic decision to assist in the better of the two outcomes or you can not. --- xp1337:* Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:943301677] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>GuessMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>I never understand the "morals" position from people relying on others to make the *tough choices that they're to prideful to sully themselves with.</quote>this so much The primaries are one thing. That's absolutely a battle of ideas/vision and voting your heart. But once that's over and it's the general the cold reality is that there are only two outcomes and you can either make the pragmatic decision to assist in the better of the two outcomes or you can not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 08/12/20 3:57:35 PM #427:	Republicans act like they're settling but at the end of the day they will literally always vote GOP. Not only that - they will vote GOP and start acting extremely passionate about their choice, supporting them no matter what happens and acting like they can do no wrong. It's a much different sort of settling than what the Democrats do. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:943302123] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Republicans act like they're settling but at the end of the day they will literally always vote GOP. Not only that - they will vote GOP and start acting extremely passionate about their choice, supporting them no matter what happens and acting like they can do no wrong. It's a much different sort of settling than what the Democrats do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 08/12/20 4:04:49 PM #428:	KamikazePotato posted... Republicans act like they're settling but at the end of the day they will literally always vote GOP. Not only that - they will vote GOP and start acting extremely passionate about their choice, supporting them no matter what happens and acting like they can do no wrong. It's a much different sort of settling than what the Democrats do. I just don't think this is true, the team sports effect hits both major parties There are probably MORE D voters that settle or just give up and don't vote at all but reluctant support still happens for Republicans. The disparity between Trump's approval rating and people who say they'll vote for him anyways shows this. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:943302398] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>Republicans act like they're settling but at the end of the day they will literally always vote GOP. Not only that - they will vote GOP and start acting extremely passionate about their choice, supporting them no matter what happens and acting like they can do no wrong. It's a much different sort of settling than what the Democrats do.</quote> I just don't think this is true, the team sports effect hits both major parties There are probably MORE D voters that settle or just give up and don't vote at all but reluctant support still happens for Republicans. The disparity between Trump's approval rating and people who say they'll vote for him anyways shows this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 08/12/20 4:15:55 PM #429:	xp1337 posted... the cold reality is that there are only two outcomes and you can either make the pragmatic decision to assist in the better of the two outcomes or you can not. This applies to like at most six battleground states. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:943302838] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>the cold reality is that there are only two outcomes and you can either make the pragmatic decision to assist in the better of the two outcomes or you can not.</quote> This applies to like at most six battleground states. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 08/12/20 4:22:32 PM #430:	I'd definitely argue it's more than six states! Perhaps of less relevance I think there's some value in it being as strong a repudiation as possible. Maybe that matters less now as the Republicans move even more openly towards hostility over free and open democracy but nevertheless. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:943303087] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>I'd definitely argue it's more than six states! Perhaps of less relevance I think there's some value in it being as strong a repudiation as possible. Maybe that matters less now as the Republicans move even more openly towards hostility over free and open democracy but nevertheless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/12/20 4:37:16 PM #431:	FFDragon posted... This applies to like at most six battleground states. Youre definitely good in Maryland, but yeah its definitely more than 6 states Anything more contentious than Washington state has no wiggle room --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:943303743] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote> This applies to like at most six battleground states. </quote> Youre definitely good in Maryland, but yeah its definitely more than 6 states Anything more contentious than Washington state has no wiggle room</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 08/12/20 4:41:45 PM #432:	Also reminder that what is going on at the USPS is literally horrific <_< --- Sir Chris Doom The Kanto Saga - Animated Series - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH4wNFCrLM <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:943303941] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Also reminder that what is going on at the USPS is literally horrific <_< </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 08/12/20 4:51:03 PM #433:	Name something in the US right now that isn't horrific We are two steps away from being North Korea --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:943304342] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Name something in the US right now that isn't horrific We are two steps away from being North Korea </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/12/20 4:55:17 PM #434:	Jakyl25 posted... Youre definitely good in Maryland, but yeah its definitely more than 6 states Anything more contentious than Washington state has no wiggle room Yeah as a reminder, Michigan and Wisconsin were pretty widely thought of as pretty safe D states in 2016 beforehand just because they consistently went to the Dems (even though the margins were sometimes fairly close). Maryland is actually safe D, but I hope no one in like Minnesota is thinking that they can afford a protest vote this year. --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:943304494] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Youre definitely good in Maryland, but yeah its definitely more than 6 states Anything more contentious than Washington state has no wiggle room</quote>Yeah as a reminder, Michigan and Wisconsin were pretty widely thought of as pretty safe D states in 2016 beforehand just because they consistently went to the Dems (even though the margins were sometimes fairly close). Maryland is actually safe D, but I hope no one in like Minnesota is thinking that they can afford a protest vote this year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 08/12/20 4:58:35 PM #435:	go to joe 3 0, 3 3 0 --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:943304622] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>go to joe 3 0, 3 3 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/12/20 5:11:06 PM #436:	https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1293654169501523970 It has always struck me as super weird that Trump is seen as being "strong" when his every second he's not bragging about himself is spent whining about how mean everybody is to him --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:943305155] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1293654169501523970 It has always struck me as super weird that Trump is seen as being "strong" when his every second he's not bragging about himself is spent whining about how mean everybody is to him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/12/20 5:12:18 PM #437:	LordoftheMorons posted... https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1293654169501523970 It has always struck me as super weird that Trump is seen as being "strong" when his every second he's not bragging about himself is spent whining about mean everybody is to him Cults are good at convincing their followers of weird things --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:943305204] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1293654169501523970 It has always struck me as super weird that Trump is seen as being "strong" when his every second he's not bragging about himself is spent whining about mean everybody is to him</quote>Cults are good at convincing their followers of weird things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 08/12/20 6:01:41 PM #438:	LordoftheMorons posted... https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1293654169501523970 It has always struck me as super weird that Trump is seen as being "strong" when his every second he's not bragging about himself is spent whining about how mean everybody is to him alt-right people like trump who whine about people being "snowflakes" are actually the biggest snowflakes themselves. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:943307030] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1293654169501523970 It has always struck me as super weird that Trump is seen as being "strong" when his every second he's not bragging about himself is spent whining about how mean everybody is to him</quote> alt-right people like trump who whine about people being "snowflakes" are actually the biggest snowflakes themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 08/12/20 7:17:31 PM #439:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-a9Pft1TE when grasping at straws goes literal --- http://gmun.moe/ffcc GuessMyUserName's account's very own account! <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:943309972] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-a9Pft1TE when grasping at straws goes literal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/12/20 7:29:22 PM #440:	Grimlyn posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-a9Pft1TE when grasping at straws goes literal I actually think straw bans are dumb, but lmao at the idea of that being the issue that decides anyone's vote --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:943310340] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Grimlyn posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-a9Pft1TE when grasping at straws goes literal</quote>I actually think straw bans are dumb, but lmao at the idea of that being the issue that decides anyone's vote </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/12/20 7:32:19 PM #441:	LordoftheMorons posted... I actually think straw bans are dumb, but lmao at the idea of that being the issue that decides anyone's vote I mean Trump is making a huge deal out of bringing back incandescent lightbulbs. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:943310427] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>I actually think straw bans are dumb, but lmao at the idea of that being the issue that decides anyone's vote</quote> I mean Trump is making a huge deal out of bringing back incandescent lightbulbs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 08/12/20 7:46:55 PM #442:	The right is going to make me join the KHive by the end of all of this. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:943310845] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>The right is going to make me join the KHive by the end of all of this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 08/12/20 7:48:05 PM #443:	https://imgur.com/gallery/C3CFmDR Recommend this to anyone who wants to make their day a bit sadder! (might have to open in a new tab) --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:943310883] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/gallery/C3CFmDR Recommend this to anyone who wants to make their day a bit sadder! (might have to open in a new tab) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/12/20 8:00:48 PM #444:	KamikazePotato posted... https://imgur.com/gallery/C3CFmDR Recommend this to anyone who wants to make their day a bit sadder! (might have to open in a new tab) the last two pages of this were actually great tho <cite>Reg posted [p:943311232] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/gallery/C3CFmDR Recommend this to anyone who wants to make their day a bit sadder! (might have to open in a new tab)</quote>the last two pages of this were actually great tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/12/20 8:30:14 PM #445:	Didn't someone make this joke yesterday? https://twitter.com/anniekarni/status/1293696813564862467 --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:943312256] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Didn't someone make this joke yesterday? https://twitter.com/anniekarni/status/1293696813564862467 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 08/12/20 8:33:29 PM #446:	KamikazePotato posted... https://imgur.com/gallery/C3CFmDR Recommend this to anyone who wants to make their day a bit sadder! (might have to open in a new tab) Fuuuuuuuucccc...... --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:943312384] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/gallery/C3CFmDR Recommend this to anyone who wants to make their day a bit sadder! (might have to open in a new tab)</quote> Fuuuuuuuucccc...... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 08/12/20 9:46:52 PM #447:	Kamala Harris is a black woman who isn't black, a cop who hates cops, and a moderate who's too far left. That's the message I'm getting from Republicans on this. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:943315005] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Kamala Harris is a black woman who isn't black, a cop who hates cops, and a moderate who's too far left. That's the message I'm getting from Republicans on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/12/20 9:48:55 PM #448:	to be fair, that last one isn't oxymoronic for the modern GOP. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:943315090] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>to be fair, that last one isn't oxymoronic for the modern GOP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 08/12/20 10:04:41 PM #449:	Yeah, they have to throw all kinds of shit at the wall to see which one sticks best. --- Epic Seven IGN ZeroThe13th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:943315639] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, they have to throw all kinds of shit at the wall to see which one sticks best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/12/20 10:59:51 PM #450:	Also, I heard she likes both Coke and Pepsi --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:943317363] in Politics C... [t:78900576]...</cite> <quote>Also, I heard she likes both Coke and Pepsi </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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