Poll of the Day > The live action Avatar TLA series just died. The showrunners hate it.

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
PK_Spam
08/13/20 8:41:07 AM
#1:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CDy5EcgDELh/?igshid=12rp0jhouclf5

This is why people need to leave animated shows be lmfao. Its not suddenly going to be good because there are people acting in front of a camera now.

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet
08/13/20 8:55:47 AM
#2:


Seeing as how universally loved the Animated series was, it was almost certainly going to be worse.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead
08/13/20 8:59:48 AM
#3:


Who even are the folks that are asking for live action adaptations of animated things?

Heck when I was a little kid if it wasnt animated I probably wouldnt have wanted to watch it

---
The Betrayer
... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam
08/13/20 9:05:33 AM
#4:


A lot of people have it in their heads that animated shows arent worth watching for whatever reason. My sister is the same way.

Naturally, Netflix wants to get as wide an audience as possible. So now were gonna get ATLA, but live action.

I cant wait to see them shoehorn an Aang x Katara x Zuni love triangle and add cliffhangers to the end of episodes that are resolved in 30 seconds.

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup
08/13/20 10:24:23 AM
#5:


I didn't even know a live action ATLA was in the works. having just watched the show start to finish I loved it and wouldn't change a thing. There does not need to be a remake.

I am curious to watch Legend of Korra. it's going up on Netflix tomorrow iirc.

---
Nintendo Network ID: papercups
3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925
... Copied to Clipboard!
SeahorseCpt89
08/13/20 10:52:58 AM
#6:


I still don't get the purpose of this. The show was already perfect the way it was, why remake it? Why not put those resources into something fans might actually want; like a sequel to TLoK, or a prequel series covering a previous Avatar? Or just have it star Aang again and cover the aftermath of the original show? I know there are graphic novels covering that, but there's more to tell, like his adulthood.

---
I am the forum boy, I'm the one who posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus
08/13/20 1:26:51 PM
#7:


If I'm reading his posts right, the series didn't "just die," the creators of the original show just left the project. It's not promising news, but we'll probably still get the show, I imagine.

---
(\/)(\/)|-|
There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy
08/13/20 1:37:52 PM
#8:


PK_Spam posted...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDy5EcgDELh/?igshid=12rp0jhouclf5

This is why people need to leave animated shows be lmfao. Its not suddenly going to be good because there are people acting in front of a camera now.

tbh we should just have gotten the rest of the movies.

there was no point to making a live action remake of the show when the movie was already good and needs sequels

---
'cause everything's changing
and i don't know s*** about s***.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg
08/13/20 1:38:22 PM
#9:


Mead posted...
Who even are the folks that are asking for live action adaptations of animated things?

Heck when I was a little kid if it wasnt animated I probably wouldnt have wanted to watch it
People want to see R rated versions of their favorite cartoons. Same reason MCU is popular. I bet Aang suffocates someone with airbending or some shit and thats why they quit

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy
08/13/20 1:40:43 PM
#10:


an r rated aang would be dope af and you know it

---
'cause everything's changing
and i don't know s*** about s***.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive
08/13/20 2:12:59 PM
#11:


PK_Spam posted...
This is why people need to leave animated shows be lmfao. Its not suddenly going to be good because there are people acting in front of a camera now.

Obligatory observation that plenty of people feel the same way about adapting books into films or shows, because the advantages you gain from having a more visceral experience tend to be offset by all of the facets of the story that wind up getting cut out or changed.

For every LotR that kind of breaks that rule, we get way too many I Robots, The Seekers, or the like that wind up doing very little beyond alienating the original fans.



Mead posted...
Who even are the folks that are asking for live action adaptations of animated things?

Disney, for one. It apparently allows them to maintain copyright on older movies, concepts, and characters without having to bully the US government into changing copyright law every few decades again.

That being said, there's always a (mostly correct) assumption that live-action films will make more money than animated ones. Live-action opens the door to a wider potential audience, pulling in adults who might otherwise feel discouraged from watching animated films, especially if they don't have kids of their own.

No animated Marvel movie has ever made as much money as the average MCU film. No matter how many people praise Into the Spider-Verse, or say it's their favorite Spider-Man movie, it still made way less than Spider-Man 3 or even The Amazing Spider-Man 2. It also made less money than every other MCU film ever other than The Incredible Hulk (which is damning with faint praise, honestly).

Studio execs who don't really give a shit about any of these properties beyond whether or not they can squeeze more money out of them aren't really going to care whether or not it still appeals to the original audience. They just assume the original audience is going to see it (and pay for it) regardless, because their own fandom and nostalgia will win out no matter how bad the new film is.
---
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead
08/13/20 2:18:32 PM
#12:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
No matter how many people praise Into the Spider-Verse, or say it's their favorite Spider-Man movie, it still made way less than Spider-Man 3 or even The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

damn that is so nuts

---
The Betrayer
... Copied to Clipboard!
Marcster1994
08/13/20 2:23:52 PM
#13:


This statement of leave didn't sound too amicable, production must've been a mess and other creatives were probably wanting to do some weird changes not even B&K could remotely agree with.

---
Switch: SW-7617-7348-9391 ~ NNID: MarcsterS
PSN: MarcsterSK ~ Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/LaughyGhost
... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66
08/13/20 2:33:31 PM
#14:


Spider-Verse is definitely the best Spider-Man movie

---
PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69
Big bombs go kabang.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive
08/13/20 2:36:16 PM
#15:


Mead posted...
damn that is so nuts

Yeah. Even when factoring production costs and marketing costs, those movies made hundreds of millions more than Spider-Verse did.

And the main reason why we tend to TALK about Spider-Verse as much as we do is because it's one of the most successful animated comic book movies ever. A lot of animated comic movies don't even get theatrical releases at all, and the ones that do rarely do as well (Mask of the Phantasm bombed in theaters, in spite of being tied to one of the most popular animated Batman series of all time, the original Transformers movie was released at the height of Gen 1 popularity and it was technically a bomb in spite of becoming a cultural touchstone for its era). Spider-Verse is actually the anomaly for doing as well as it did.

Disney does very well with animated films, and both Pixar (pre-Disney) and Dreamworks kind of dug out a niche of their own, but for the most part animated films outside of that core don't do well at all.

Even when it comes to TV shows, animated shows usually don't make all that much money. It's why so many shows wind up having to tie themselves into toy lines to justify their existence (and why the slow death of the toy market lately is kind of killing that business model).

It's probably a given that any exec in Hollywood who's actually looked at the numbers is going to assume that live-action always does better than animated. Because there's tons of evidence that suggests that's 100% true.
---
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42
08/13/20 4:18:38 PM
#16:


They are still making it, it's just the original animators are out of the picture cause they feel it's not what they imagined/want basically. Doesn't even mean it's bad, just mean it's not what they wanted.

---
Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat
08/13/20 4:20:53 PM
#17:


As a kid live action ninja turtles was the best

---
Things are about to get arvified
... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg
08/13/20 4:24:16 PM
#18:


wolfy42 posted...
They are still making it, it's just the original animators are out of the picture cause they feel it's not what they imagined/want basically. Doesn't even mean it's bad, just mean it's not what they wanted.
Zuko Aang Katara love triangle, calling it now

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42
08/13/20 4:28:45 PM
#19:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Zuko Aang Katara love triangle, calling it now


Baah, it's obviously gonna be a Katara/Appa thing, hence them leaving.

---
Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy
08/13/20 4:46:41 PM
#20:


i hope spiderverse 2 has a higher framerate

i get it was an aesthetic choice, but i hated the animation being so jerky

---
'cause everything's changing
and i don't know s*** about s***.
... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys
08/13/20 4:53:29 PM
#21:


helIy posted...
i hope spiderverse 2 has a higher framerate

i get it was an aesthetic choice, but i hated the animation being so jerky
I dunno.

I have the movie on my computer and the I got voted out for putting the movie in 60fps.

I like to use a program called SVP that makes videos the same framerate as your screen.

Friends said it looked weird in 60fps with the choppy comicbook style

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66
08/13/20 5:00:51 PM
#22:


They should go full stop-motion animation for the next one

---
PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69
Big bombs go kabang.
... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI
08/13/20 5:16:28 PM
#23:


Why don't they just animate the comics?

---
Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2
... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy
08/13/20 5:22:54 PM
#24:


deoxxys posted...
I dunno.

I have the movie on my computer and the I got voted out for putting the movie in 60fps.

I like to use a program called SVP that makes videos the same framerate as your screen.

Friends said it looked weird in 60fps with the choppy comicbook style
yeah that would look weird.

certain tvs do it, too, and the recommendation for it is to always turn it off.

it's just the style of animation they used is just...jerky. like it's not fluid.

---
'cause everything's changing
and i don't know s*** about s***.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus
08/13/20 5:28:56 PM
#25:


helIy posted...
tbh we should just have gotten the rest of the movies.

there was no point to making a live action remake of the show when the movie was already good and needs sequels

tbh, although the movie was kinda meh, I would have enjoyed the sequels. Granted, the problem with the movie was that it was trying to condense a full season of the show.

Blightzkrieg posted...
Zuko Aang Katara love triangle, calling it now

That was kinda in the original, so it'd be there if they just followed the original.

ArvTheGreat posted...
As a kid live action ninja turtles was the best

Most of the live-action Turtles films are surprisingly okay.


---
(\/)(\/)|-|
There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman
08/13/20 5:52:09 PM
#26:


Avatar should never be put into live action, their obsession with taking one of the best animated shows of all time and remaking it is pathetic.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34
08/13/20 11:39:23 PM
#27:


Live action adaptations are shit.
---
Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms
... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead
08/13/20 11:40:02 PM
#28:


Revelation34 posted...
Live action adaptations are shit.

certainly seems to be the case almost all of the time

---
The Betrayer
... Copied to Clipboard!
funkyfritter
08/13/20 11:52:15 PM
#29:


ParanoidObsessive posted...


And the main reason why we tend to TALK about Spider-Verse as much as we do is because it's one of the most successful animated comic book movies ever. A lot of animated comic movies don't even get theatrical releases at all, and the ones that do rarely do as well (Mask of the Phantasm bombed in theaters, in spite of being tied to one of the most popular animated Batman series of all time, the original Transformers movie was released at the height of Gen 1 popularity and it was technically a bomb in spite of becoming a cultural touchstone for its era). Spider-Verse is actually the anomaly for doing as well as it did.
I was curious and looked up how The Iron Giant did in theaters. Apparently it bombed despite being very highly reviewed by both audiences and critics, ouch. I love animation, but sadly mainstream audiences don't.

---
And with that...pow! I'm gone!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus
08/14/20 12:49:19 AM
#30:


funkyfritter posted...
I was curious and looked up how The Iron Giant did in theaters. Apparently it bombed despite being very highly reviewed by both audiences and critics, ouch. I love animation, but sadly mainstream audiences don't.

Why IG? Oo

At any rate, great film.

---
(\/)(\/)|-|
There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive
08/14/20 10:11:48 PM
#31:


funkyfritter posted...
I was curious and looked up how The Iron Giant did in theaters. Apparently it bombed despite being very highly reviewed by both audiences and critics, ouch. I love animation, but sadly mainstream audiences don't.

That's the usual pattern. The animated movies we tend to assume were successful because we personally remember them fondly are often complete bombs in theaters.

And yet, we also live in a world where The Emoji Movie was successful enough to triple its production costs, which is how I know there is no God.
---
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83
08/18/20 2:56:44 PM
#32:


wolfy42 posted...
They are still making it, it's just the original animators are out of the picture cause they feel it's not what they imagined/want basically. Doesn't even mean it's bad, just mean it's not what they wanted.


They wanna put sex and blood in it, because they think that's the only sorts of maturity there is. Nevermind that ATLA deals in far more mature, thoughtful and intelligent themes. Shame on Netflix' idiotic and immature staff. So of course it WILL be bad if they get their way.

---
2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205
... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34
08/18/20 3:03:30 PM
#33:


Lil_Bit83 posted...


They wanna put sex and blood in it, because they think that's the only sorts of maturity there is. Nevermind that ATLA deals in far more mature, thoughtful and intelligent themes. Shame on Netflix' idiotic and immature staff. So of course it WILL be bad if they get their way.


This sounds like the Rick and Morty meme.
---
Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms
... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon
08/18/20 3:07:46 PM
#34:


PK_Spam posted...
This is why people need to leave animated shows be lmfao. Its not suddenly going to be good because there are people acting in front of a camera now.

While I agree the unfortunate reality is the mass majority of westerners still see animation as "for kids" and live actions as "more professional".
---
YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus
08/18/20 5:33:20 PM
#35:


Lil_Bit83 posted...
They wanna put sex and blood in it, because they think that's the only sorts of maturity there is. Nevermind that ATLA deals in far more mature, thoughtful and intelligent themes. Shame on Netflix' idiotic and immature staff. So of course it WILL be bad if they get their way.

The blood is kinda understandable, given that the cartoon depicts people being injured and killed.

...and given that the show involves unsupervised teens, it'd be unrealistic for nobody to have sex.

---
(\/)(\/)|-|
There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive
08/18/20 5:41:39 PM
#36:


IIRC they left because netflix was changing their ideas and whatnot

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II
08/18/20 5:45:30 PM
#37:


Proving yet again, "Get Woke, Go Broke".


---
PSA: "Real Gamers*" don't pay for Micro-transactions.
*Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it.
... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys
08/18/20 9:56:38 PM
#38:


What why? Why does Avatar deserve this atrocity? Stop trying to make Avatar live-action please and just give us another season featuring a new Avatar.

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus
08/19/20 1:46:08 AM
#39:


deoxxys posted...
What why? Why does Avatar deserve this atrocity? Stop trying to make Avatar live-action please and just give us another season featuring a new Avatar.

And put Korra on NF >_>

---
(\/)(\/)|-|
There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook
08/19/20 2:02:27 AM
#40:


Zeus posted...
And put Korra on NF >_>

If NF means Netflix, you're in luck!
---
Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2
... Copied to Clipboard!
kobalobasileus
08/19/20 4:40:19 AM
#41:


Mead posted...
Heck when I was a little kid if it wasnt animated I probably wouldnt have wanted to watch it
When I was a kid, practical effects were the only effects, and they were pretty fucking terrible, so it makes sense that I wouldn't have wanted to watch fantasy/sci-fi/etc. that wasn't animated.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza
08/19/20 6:14:08 AM
#42:


kobalobasileus posted...
When I was a kid, practical effects were the only effects, and they were pretty fucking terrible, so it makes sense that I wouldn't have wanted to watch fantasy/sci-fi/etc. that wasn't animated.

Really? Practical effects seem kind of cool. And better, in a lot of ways. Ive been watching some videos (kill counts) that have practical effects. And those seem better than CGI and stuff...
---
Official King of Kings
Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
08/19/20 6:20:41 AM
#43:


LinkPizza posted...


Really? Practical effects seem kind of cool. And better, in a lot of ways. Ive been watching some videos (kill counts) that have practical effects. And those seem better than CGI and stuff...

Sentai style effects i.e. random inexplicable sparks and explosive air because why not.
---
Doctor Foxx posted...
The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus
08/19/20 3:20:47 PM
#44:


Phantom_Nook posted...
If NF means Netflix, you're in luck!

Oh shit.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Sentai style effects i.e. random inexplicable sparks and explosive air because why not.

idk, man, slashing next to a character, fireworks popping up behind them, and having them jump into the air with their arms flailing is pretty cool

---
(\/)(\/)|-|
There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI
08/19/20 5:15:54 PM
#45:


Zeus posted...
...and given that the show involves unsupervised teens, it'd be unrealistic for nobody to have sex.
zuko is the oldest and 16

the rest are way too young for sex

---
Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook
08/19/20 5:18:36 PM
#46:


They imply Sokka and Suki have sex in one episide.
---
Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2
... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza
08/19/20 6:22:40 PM
#47:


JOExHIGASHI posted...
the rest are way too young for sex

I mean, you can say that. They doesn't mean they wouldn't do it...
---
Official King of Kings
Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.
... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI
08/19/20 7:37:14 PM
#48:


LinkPizza posted...
I mean, you can say that. They doesn't mean they wouldn't do it...
I wouldn't put it in a tv show or movie

---
Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2
... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42
08/19/20 7:40:31 PM
#49:


They have TV shows about teens getting pregnant, half the teen shows on CW have em having sex all the time etc, I mean it's not like it's rare. How old are freshman in HS cause they have em doing it like rabbits in half the shows already.

---
Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI
08/19/20 7:45:53 PM
#50:


wolfy42 posted...
They have TV shows about teens getting pregnant, half the teen shows on CW have em having sex all the time etc, I mean it's not like it's rare. How old are freshman in HS cause they have em doing it like rabbits in half the shows already.
There aren't that many teenage characters though.

And the characters that I'm referring to that are too young for sex are Aang, Katara, and Toph. They're 12,13,and 10 years old. Maybe even Sokka is too young to depict

---
Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2