Board 8 > Trailer is out for the Synder Cut of Justice League

(+) Yeah! (+)

I've always laughed at people who asked for this and never thought I would give a shit, but...maybe I'll at least give it a watch. Kind of just a curiosity at this point.

https://youtu.be/Ri4tQ9xRyoc

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Just got taken down. I managed to watch it the second before it was. Looks like a lot of new/originally cut footage.

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as someone who didnt watch the original release, its not at all clear to me from the trailer why I should expect this to be better.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

as someone who didnt watch the original release, its not at all clear to me from the trailer why I should expect this to be better.

You shouldn't! Snyder is a hack who relies on visuals over... making a good movie

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i thought they were still in talks of getting the band back together to film stuff?

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big superhero film for grownups

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Synder Cut
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4 hours of a pretentious moron's movie for his toxic fan base.

I can't see anything here that makes this any better than the original. It's going to just be 4 hours of more grim dark boredom and all of his fans will eat it up and call it a victory to not be disappointed.

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

big superhero film for grownups

people in the replies to that tweet are legitimately insane

theyre like weird qanon people but for Zack Snyder for some reason

none of his movies are good enough to warrant this level of devotion
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It really is just bizarre. Like everyone going "Yeah clap back on these hack blue check marks! You ain't gonna take it this time!"

When it's just an adult acting out at someone unimpressed with his shitty film that he has to make 4 hours long to pretend it will be decent.

The best part is that this wouldn't even be a conversation if the guy had went "I saw the leak and it looks amazing!" His problem isn't with someone reviewing his leaked footage early. It's that someone said they weren't impressed.

Hell, most of his panel speech was just him fart huffing about how it would be deep and profound and it's like dude give it a rest.

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Hold on it's seriously 4 hours?

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Yes. It's four hours and they're breaking it up into four 1 hour parts.

So it's no longer a movie, it's a miniseries.

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/zack-snyder-says-not-using-100239646.html

The one-sided war of words between director Zack Snyder and Joss Whedons version of Justice League continues. Snyder has confirmed on social media he wont use one of Supermans lines from the original 2017 theatrical release because it literally makes no sense.

Do you bleed? a recently resurrected Superman asks Ben Afflecks Batman at the midway point of Justice League. Its meant to be a clever reference to the Caped Crusader asking the invulnerable Man of Steel the same thing in Batman v. Superman. But for its use in Justice League? Snyder wasnt a fan.

Taking to Vero (H/T Screen Rant), Snyder replied to a fan asking whether that line is in the Justice League Snyder Cut by saying, bluntly: Uh, no, that literally makes no sense.

This, of course, isnt the first time Snyder has indirectly or otherwise taken aim at Whedons finished product.

During JusticeCon, Snyder said of using any footage that wasnt his in the Snyder Cut: "I would destroy the movie. I would set it on fire before I use a single frame that I did not photograph."

But, for many, the Joss-tice League cut will soon be a thing of the past. The Snyder Cut is making its bow as part of DCs FanDome event, with Snyder promising a teaser trailer will be shown after a week of countdowns and Bat-reveals.

Also relevant, Zack Snyder has admitted to never actually watching Joss Whedon's version of Justice League.

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I wouldn't either, tbh. If I put a lot of work into something and then a family tragedy happened that got me replaced, it would definitely be a sore spot.

Like all the people clamoring for this seem like conspiracy weirdos. But I have no doubt that it will be better than Whedon's Justice League, which is like a cake that, halfway through baking, you realize you forgot an ingredient during the mixing stage so you throw it in anyway.

I am surprised that Snyder has somehow cultivated a weird fanbase. Something's fishy about this dude. Like his first movie is Dawn of the Dead remake. How is that your first movie?

hey now

the dotd remake is legitimately good and easily his best movie

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just learned that DotD remake is written by James Gunn
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FFDragon posted...

hey now

the dotd remake is legitimately good and easily his best movie

no I know, I'm just saying how? How does one not make any full-length movies and then all of a sudden you're director for a high profile remake of a beloved film?

The cult that has sprung up around the Snyder cut is I think partly due to the fact that they've convinced themselves that JL was only bad because of Whedon, and if they could just get Snyder's true version, it would be the greatest film of all time. And then when it was announced they convinced themselves it was due to their efforts. Now they're in too deep and can't go back, so regardless of how the movie turns out they're going to swear up and down that it's fantastic.

Any criticism of it will be met with "you just don't get it" or "you're not mature enough" and Snyder seems to be getting that ball rolling already.

I'd love for it to be good, the JL SHOULD have a good movie, but I don't have high hopes.

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https://twitter.com/simon75850205/status/1297306413849616391?s=21

these people have brain damage
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I don't get it. Is this the original Justice League movie, but remade by someone else?

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Pokalicious posted...

I don't get it. Is this the original Justice League movie, but remade by someone else?

Zack Snyder was the original director of Justice League. He did a hella lot of work on it but then his daughter committed suicide and he left the project. WB brought in Whedon to basically finish the movie and also make it more quippy. It didn't work out very well.

This actually has me wondering about other movies hes done, 300 in particular. Is Snyder self aware enough to realize that with 300 he created a fantastic piece of entertainment, one of the greatest popcorn flicks of all time? Or does he believe that movie is some deep experience with profound adult messages???

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also this thing is fucking four hours

theres tweets mad about Joss not including certain scenes that show up in this trailer and Im just thinking... Joss had to take the shit ton of stuff Snyder filmed and turn it into something thats actually a reasonable length.

basically every Snyder movie has people say the extended cut is better... at what point is Snyder going to learn how to actually work within the constraints of a theatrical release? Maybe Whedons movie would be good if he had four hours to work with too.
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colliding posted...

I wouldn't either, tbh. If I put a lot of work into something and then a family tragedy happened that got me replaced, it would definitely be a sore spot.

Like all the people clamoring for this seem like conspiracy weirdos. But I have no doubt that it will be better than Whedon's Justice League, which is like a cake that, halfway through baking, you realize you forgot an ingredient during the mixing stage so you throw it in anyway.

I am surprised that Snyder has somehow cultivated a weird fanbase. Something's fishy about this dude. Like his first movie is Dawn of the Dead remake. How is that your first movie?

My point is that he talks about how he wants to destroy the movie and he thinks it's awful and how lines don't make sense and all of this stuff........ but he hasn't watched the movie himself, so his only real criticism is "It's not mine."

Additionally, in the thing I quoted, Superman clearly asks Batman "Do you bleed?" as a callback to what Batman said IN SNYDER'S OWN MOVIE, and it makes complete sense to mock Batman for it in an act of intimidation. Unless he wants to say Batman's line in Batman v. Superman never made sense, then sure!

My point is Zack Snyder is an egomaniacal manbaby who can't handle any criticism about his work and he acted like one of the main reasons his movie wouldn't be good is because studios originally wanted him to reduce a 3 hour plus script down to a reasonable runtime and that his vision couldn't be contained to that and it's like bro Joss Whedon tried to turn your absolute dog shit film into something watchable. Most of the movie was made when Snyder had to leave and they asked Whedon to make it better.

Screw Zack Snyder. He's an asshole and always has been.

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There is a wierd thing here where I don't give a shit about Snyder and think the people obsessed with him are nuts.

....but I also feel the same way about Whedon...and would put Snyder above Whedon....

So that plus how the theatrical release was hacked together means I have basically no doubt this will be better than what we got before.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Additionally, in the thing I quoted, Superman clearly asks Batman "Do you bleed?" as a callback to what Batman said IN SNYDER'S OWN MOVIE, and it makes complete sense to mock Batman for it in an act of intimidation. Unless he wants to say Batman's line in Batman v. Superman never made sense, then sure!

I think the idea is that the question is dumb to ask Batman because no shit he bleeds.

Not that it's not still a dumb thing to take issue with.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I think the idea is that the question is dumb to ask Batman because no shit he bleeds.

Not that it's not still a dumb thing to take issue with.

Right, and the implication here is that Superman was going to MAKE Batman bleed. He wasn't asking it because he wanted to know--he was asking it to mock him and threaten him.

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Cyndaquil?

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Whedon made Buffy which was overall pretty decent (debatable I know)

He also made Serenity, which was a good movie (yes, better than the show)

I can't say I've ever particularly "liked" a snyder joint.

I liked 300 and Watchmen well enough.

Everything else has been actively bad, because Snyder is bad at movies unless he can rely heavily on source material.

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With Snyder stuff I'm usually drawn in by the visuals. Even when it comes to movies I hate, like BvS and Suckerpunch, it's still a feast for the eyes.

Whedon stuff is generally weak on visuals and I also don't like his dialogue. He reminds me of a film version of Bendis. I did like Serenity, but never cared for any of his show. Avengers 1 does nothing for me anymore and Avengers 2 is just bad.

For Snyder he at least has Watchmen, which I actually really like. Sin City 1 is solid, too.

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Snyder had nothing to do with Sin City though?

And Whedon doesn't have near the cult following that Snyder does so there's that.

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It'll be interesting to see how good this is. People can always point to what could have been and dropped ideas and say it would have been better. This is like the only time we'll actually find out, and even then, being four hours long makes it hard to really compare them.

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Really? Could have sworn.

Murphiroth posted...

And Whedon doesn't have near the cult following that Snyder does so there's that.

Maybe not nowadays, but this absolutely used to be the case. People thought Whedon was God.

I think it died out a bit when all the abuse accusations started coming out.

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Peak Whedon cult was bigger than the Snyder cult, though maybe not as crazy.

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Firefly times, Whedon was still massive. Probably dropped off after people were disappointed with Avengers Age of Ultron. They mostly always just seemed passionate about liking his work. I don't remember people being particularly hostile in their fandom.

Snyder's fanbase is just toxic and awful and it starts with his own attitude.

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people didn't have to justify liking Whedon

that's the big difference

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redrocket posted...

Peak Whedon cult was bigger than the Snyder cult, though maybe not as crazy.

yeah I think the Whedon cult was less crazy because they were just sort of a small, passionate fanbase unlike the Snyder cult who are like actively mad all the time
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/zack-snyder-says-not-using-100239646.html

The one-sided war of words between director Zack Snyder and Joss Whedons version of Justice League continues. Snyder has confirmed on social media he wont use one of Supermans lines from the original 2017 theatrical release because it literally makes no sense.

Do you bleed? a recently resurrected Superman asks Ben Afflecks Batman at the midway point of Justice League. Its meant to be a clever reference to the Caped Crusader asking the invulnerable Man of Steel the same thing in Batman v. Superman. But for its use in Justice League? Snyder wasnt a fan.

Taking to Vero (H/T Screen Rant), Snyder replied to a fan asking whether that line is in the Justice League Snyder Cut by saying, bluntly: Uh, no, that literally makes no sense.

This, of course, isnt the first time Snyder has indirectly or otherwise taken aim at Whedons finished product.

During JusticeCon, Snyder said of using any footage that wasnt his in the Snyder Cut: "I would destroy the movie. I would set it on fire before I use a single frame that I did not photograph."

But, for many, the Joss-tice League cut will soon be a thing of the past. The Snyder Cut is making its bow as part of DCs FanDome event, with Snyder promising a teaser trailer will be shown after a week of countdowns and Bat-reveals.

Also relevant, Zack Snyder has admitted to never actually watching Joss Whedon's version of Justice League.

this is funny because it makes a lot more sense there than it did when Batman first said it....

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Right, and the implication here is that Superman was going to MAKE Batman bleed. He wasn't asking it because he wanted to know--he was asking it to mock him and threaten him.

it's also a funny acknowledgement that Superman obviously heard Batman say it the first time even though Batman waited until he was gone to say it. Like "remember when you talked shit about me you little punk?"

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Cant wait to see another failure at making a good live action Justice League movie

Just as an aside, I just finished season 1 of Doom Patrol and that show is excellent. Best live action DC thing since Nolan.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Firefly times, Whedon was still massive. Probably dropped off after people were disappointed with Avengers Age of Ultron. They mostly always just seemed passionate about liking his work. I don't remember people being particularly hostile in their fandom.

Snyder's fanbase is just toxic and awful and it starts with his own attitude.

I mean people had issues with Fox because of Firefly, but not only was that a hell of a lot more justified, it never seemed to be the toxicity what we have here. Granted, part of that may be the lack of Twitter in those times, but still.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I think it died out a bit when all the abuse accusations started coming out.

Peak Whedon worship was long dead before it and I'm willing to bet that very few people would even know what you're talking about with this.

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kevwaffles posted...

I mean people had issues with Fox because of Firefly, but not only was that a hell of a lot more justified, it never seemed to be the toxicity what we have here. Granted, part of that may be the lack of Twitter in those times, but still.

The most toxic Whedon fans ever got were talking about how Fox screwed Firefly and Whedon.

Snyder fans will tell you that you're an asshole and your opinion doesn't matter if you don't like his movies and then harass people who express any amount of disappointment in his films. Like they are overwhelmingly toxic and I never noticed it at first, but they've somehow gotten so much worse AFTER they got what they wanted with this Snyder Cut.

It's just a fanbase of awful negativity.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

The most toxic Whedon fans ever got were talking about how Fox screwed Firefly and Whedon.

Snyder fans will tell you that you're an asshole and your opinion doesn't matter if you don't like his movies and then harass people who express any amount of disappointment in his films. Like they are overwhelmingly toxic and I never noticed it at first, but they've somehow gotten so much worse AFTER they got what they wanted with this Snyder Cut.

It's just a fanbase of awful negativity.

Oh I agree with all of this, and it's more or less what I was saying in short. My only point was that maybe it would have seemed or gotten worse if that had happened in the age of Twitter since it sort of facilitates the spread of toxicity.

Purely theories and conjecture on my part, obviously.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Just as an aside, I just finished season 1 of Doom Patrol and that show is excellent. Best live action DC thing since Nolan.

Hell yeah, I've been singing its praises since last year. Fantastic show.

It better get picked up for a third season after what happened to the second. (suppose to be 10 episodes but covid shut everything down, so there's only 9.)

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Ah, I haven't started yet, does it actually get cut short or is it a cliffhanger?

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It feels like it gets cut short, there's a definite cliffhanger but it feels like a 'watch next week!' cliffhanger not a season-long one.

Still good. I was just confused when it ended, felt like there should have been, well, one more episode.

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Murphiroth posted...

Any criticism of it will be met with "you just don't get it" or "you're not mature enough" and Snyder seems to be getting that ball rolling already.

That ball has been rolling since Batman v Superman

I'll be pleased when the Snyder cut is over and done with so we hopefully never have to hear about it again. It would be nice for that fanbase to fade away once their god has nothing more to show them.

Although... it probably could do good enough to warrant him getting hired for more DC movies, which would suck.

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