Board 8 > Trailer is out for the Synder Cut of Justice League

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Just making sure because honestly I don't know at this point, given how much I also slam the people who actively hate on Disney-era Star Wars.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

and it's not just david who's making this point. all the time, i see this "why are you so negative?" criticism on the board (sometimes directed at me). it makes no sense and it's antithetical to interesting discussions.

I think, generally speaking, negative posts stand at a disadvantage by their very nature, and unsolicited ones have an uphill job of feeling meaningful. So if you have a history of them, much like someone you would meet in the real world, people may be less inclined to spend time with a negative person. You also don't have tone on a board, right? So it's just tough to convey, I don't know how to explain this, the natural positivity in a person's disposition that sort of counterbalances negative commentary or criticism. If that makes sense. I'm sure a lot of people think I'm negative when I don't mean to represent myself as such on the board, just because you can't see a person's face or hear their vocal inflection. You're not wrong about the idea of quantifying negative posts, but I don't begrudge David for being irritated by a user who is often painted in a negative light by their posts.

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Do I have a reputation on this board for being overly negative towards The Last Jedi?

You have a reputation on this board, all right.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Aecioo would know - he's also been a more negative person on the boards the past half-decade or so.

Aecioo has pushed through his period of constant negativity and is now in biting optimism. it's a big breakthough and very refreshing tbh.

davidponte saying someone else is always negative and complaining about things is very strange to me. that describes him way more than it does biscuit.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

given how much I also slam the people who actively hate on Disney-era Star Wars.

lmao

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scarletspeed7 posted...

I think, generally speaking, negative posts stand at a disadvantage by their very nature, and unsolicited ones have an uphill job of feeling meaningful. So if you have a history of them, much like someone you would meet in the real world, people may be less inclined to spend time with a negative person. You also don't have tone on a board, right? So it's just tough to convey, I don't know how to explain this, the natural positivity in a person's disposition that sort of counterbalances negative commentary or criticism. If that makes sense. I'm sure a lot of people think I'm negative when I don't mean to represent myself as such on the board, just because you can't see a person's face or hear their vocal inflection. You're not wrong about the idea of quantifying negative posts, but I don't begrudge David for being irritated by a user who is often painted in a negative light by their posts.

all of this makes sense. but the thing is that, while i make my fair share of negative posts, i consider myself to be a fairly positive person in general and i do try to talk about the things i like as much as i can. just a few recent examples: i'm running a topic about my favorite music artist in which i constantly talk about all of the aspects of his music i adore (and i've been doing this for the past 8 years btw). i said the latest video game music contest was "by far my favorite VGMC ever." i said back to the future is my favorite movie released in the '80s. it's just weird to me that, even if you make plenty of positive posts, people still think you can make "too many" negative posts and you have to "tone down the negativity."

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Tbh I was more put off by the condescending nature of david's posts. Like he asks me for evidence of me posting positive stuff, as though it doesn't exist, and then he says "Well doesn't it feel good to be positive?" And I'm like... I just told you a bunch of times I'm positive, just from topics today.

A lot of my negativity comes from just disappointment in things I would love to like. I would have been thrilled to love Justice League. I would have been thrilled to love Zelda: Breath of the Wild. I would have been thrilled to love The Last of Us 2. I would be thrilled to love WWE.

But I don't, and I have a lot of legitimate criticisms of them. I don't want to dislike these things, but because I do it's somehow more demonized as a result. It's not like these are things I don't care about or I'm ambivalent about. They're things I actively have an interest in. It's why you'll never see me just dumping on any of the new Star Wars trilogy or anything like that, because I have little interest in it. And I have a lot of friends who both love and hate those movies and my stance has always been "I wish they could have made a series of Star Wars movies that everyone could have enjoyed." Because I want people to all love things they love and I understand disappointment in something you love being not what you wanted or just outright bad. And I understand why people get angry about it. It sucks when that happens. And if you're passionate about it, it's easy to discuss why that sucks.

But I'd rather be invested in a lot of interests and then end up negative about them than not be invested in them at all. Because that means I've loved something and taken a lot of enjoyment out of it before, and I don't want to replace that.

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I think the thing with Biscuit isn't about how positive or negative he is, but how hard he goes when he's being negative.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

all of this makes sense. but the thing is that, while i make my fair share of negative posts, i consider myself to be a fairly positive person in general and i do try to talk about the things i like as much as i can. just a few recent examples: i'm running a topic about my favorite music artist in which i constantly talk about all of the aspects of his music i adore (and i've been doing this for the past 8 years btw). i said the latest video game music contest was "by far my favorite VGMC ever." i said back to the future is my favorite movie released in the '80s. it's just weird to me that, even if you make plenty of positive posts, people still think you can make "too many" negative posts and you have to "tone down the negativity."

Totally get it. I read a study not too long ago where psychologists determined that people are vastly more sensitive to negativity in general. There was a statistic along the lines of, for every 1 negative comment, it needs to be offset by five positive comments, and most people only talk neutrally in casual conversation, so a negative skew is something that's really easy to establish.

It's not a fault of you, per se. But I would agree with those findings; it's hard to dig yourself out of that sort of perceptive hole.

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TheRock1525 posted...

I think the thing with Biscuit isn't about how positive or negative he is, but how hard he goes when he's being negative.

This is it. It's one thing to say "yeah this thing is bad, here is why I think it's bad", and then continue on with your life, as you do in a conversation. Biscuit does this sometimes, which is cool. We all do this sometimes. Like everyone says, nothing wrong with contributing your negative idea to a conversation.

But I feel like he just goes hard at the stuff that he doesn't like, almost as if there's an attempt to convince others about how right his negative opinion is and how wrong anyone else's positive opinion, and there's no let up. Seems wild to me.

Happened here and happened five times as much in all of TLOU2 discussion where he even came into different topics made a month after his initial "This is why the game is bad" topic to reiterate to everyone that he was certain that the game was in fact bad. Like what's the point of that?

CoolCly posted...

davidponte saying someone else is always negative and complaining about things is very strange to me. that describes him way more than it does biscuit.

Bruh what lmao, I don't even enter topics on things I don't really care about. A third of my posts are engaging in a discussion, a third are dumbass responses to things, and the other third is my perpetual argument with Biscuit at this point.

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davidponte posted...

Happened here and happened five times as much in all of TLOU2 discussion where he even came into different topics made a month after his initial "This is why the game is bad" topic to reiterate to everyone that he was certain that the game was in fact bad. Like what's the point of that?

Now this is wild to me.

Like I literally went into the topic discussing the game a month after release and said "Hey, I think the story is still pretty bad but I'm glad you guys are liking it!" And then that's too negative.

I didn't even discuss the story in that topic. The closest thing I even did to discussing the game itself was informing a dude asking why trans people didn't like it, and he got mad at ME for things my actual trans friends said to me while I was being as objective about it as possible.

And then weirdos in that topic are like "God why are you still posting and discussing it?" when... I hadn't been? Since the week of the release? And I only came back because people were still talking about me in that topic when I hadn't looked at that topic in weeks and someone was still saying shit about me in that topic and I only knew because I checked it randomly on my lunch break when I saw it at the top of the topic list?

Like fuck, can't even leave the topic like these people apparently wanted without being drug back in by someone talking shit. Who is the negative one there?

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I'm gonna be honest PB

I made that Last of Us 2 ongoing spoilers topic partly because of the shitstorm the other topics about it had turned into, to which you were a large contributing factor (though not the only one). I think you went way overboard in your posts about that game.

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XIII_rocks posted...

I'm gonna be honest PB

I made that Last of Us 2 ongoing spoilers topic partly because of the shitstorm the other topics about it had turned into, to which you were a large contributing factor (though not the only one). I think you went way overboard in your posts about that game.

That's fine.

But entirely irrelevant to the actual topic I was discussing made a month later.

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Alright

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Yeah, Biscuit's far from the most negative person on the board, but he does tend to go kinda overboard when he dislikes something, which probably makes him seem more negative than he is.

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Not liking something is perfectly fine, continuously telling people why you dislike something is annoying

For example, I didn't like Rise of Skywalker, but you'll never see me post in an LMS topic bc my negative comments about the movie aren't going to change it. What we got is what we will always have, so instead I accepted that it wasn't made for me and moved on.

Basically you shouldn't dwell on negativity. Focus on the stuff you like.

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CassandraCain posted...

Not liking something is perfectly fine, continuously telling people why you dislike something is annoying

yeah, i've noticed that this is another thing people find problematic. several people have told me that they have a problem with my constant criticizing of roger ebert, occasionally saying it's "character assassination."

i don't think that's really fair, though. yes, i bash ebert a lot but i also never miss an opportunity to praise him when i think he's said something worthwhile (i've stated that his the godfather part II review is great, for example). i'm not on a mission to make every single person on this board hate ebert. it's more like... i love talking about movies and ebert is probably the biggest movie critic ever, so i'm inevitably going to talk about him a lot.

Basically you shouldn't dwell on negativity. Focus on the stuff you like.

again, i totally disagree with this. this is the "demonizing of negativity" i was talking about earlier.

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No I'm just saying you don't want to stay in that negative mindset. Use constructive negativity whenever you want just don't dwell on it, since it can easily become destructive.

Basically it's a double-edged blade. Effective when wielded with skill while someone inept will end up hurting people around them as well as themselves.

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