Current Events > Nintendo replaced Super Mario Sunshine sound effects with stock sounds lmao

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://twitter.com/GreatGonzales/status/1305792684204986368

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NintenDONE

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you can get to that level with only 2 shines? Man my memory of this game is borked.

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The difference here is very minimal, unless I'm missing something...

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This is some kinda galaxy brain social commentary a dev at Nintendo slipped in without them noticing

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That can't be intentional

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wait what am I listening for

the go sound? It sounds the same but in a different pitch?

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parabola_master posted...

wait what am I listening for

the go sound? It sounds the same but in a different pitch?

It's completely different, it goes from a fast beeping sound to the stock censor sound TV shows use for bad words

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It's the go sound, and no it doesn't just sound the same at a different pitch. The original is kinda a ringing effect, the new one is just a flat tone.

more than impact on the game itself (because yeah that's pretty minimal) I'm more baffled why this even happened. What was wrong with the old sound effect? Why does the new one sound so lazy? it's not like they replaced all the other sound effects in the game or anything

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kirbymuncher posted...

It's the go sound, and no it doesn't just sound the same at a different pitch. The original is kinda a ringing effect, the new one is just a flat tone.

more than impact on the game itself (because yeah that's pretty minimal) I'm more baffled why this even happened. What was wrong with the old sound effect? Why does the new one sound so lazy? it's not like they replaced all the other sound effects in the game or anything

Maybe it's a different version of the game? Weird though.

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Since the game is being emulated it could just be a sound glitch

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Any other sound effect would sufficed but the censor beep was a dumbass choice.

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I'll believe it when I play the game for myself.

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I just...how does this impact your enjoyment of the game at all? There's a million reasons why a sound may sound different in different environments, why they may have changed it, etc. Laziness is probably not one of them. Neither tone is something that cannot be produced with a couple of clicks on a sound editing application.

If this is some other version of the game, then it's likely that a .wav file just got misplaced, and a high pitched tone is a reasonable choice for a go signal (see mario kart).

But really, the primary issue is why you are concerning yourself with this as if it's some sort of controversy lol.

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That is just Mario cussing because his reaction time was bad in the second vidvid.

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lmao

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LMAO @ 'press the button'

COVxy posted...

I just...how does this impact your enjoyment of the game at all? There's a million reasons why a sound may sound different in different environments, why they may have changed it, etc. Laziness is probably not one of them. Neither tone is something that cannot be produced with a couple of clicks on a sound editing application.

If this is some other version of the game, then it's likely that a .wav file just got misplaced, and a high pitched tone is a reasonable choice for a go signal (see mario kart).

But really, the primary issue is why you are concerning yourself with this as if it's some sort of controversy lol.

It's the cycle of every game release that I just despise

The part leading up to or just before release where people go through every bit of prerelease material or leaked content and pick it apart maniacally

Reminds me of Puddlegate for Spider-Man on the PS4

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The Nintendo Defense Force is on their way right now lol

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can people just laugh at silly needless changes

is that ok

BignutzisBack posted...

The Nintendo Defense Force is on their way right now lol

there's nothing to "defend" it's just an emulated version with rather lazy edits

it's not the end of the world

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Laughing my ass off at people buying this shit up

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BignutzisBack posted...

The Nintendo Defense Force is on their way right now lol

Lol I hate it because I find Nintendo fans really damn annoying usually but like holy heck guys relax

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yeah relax guys stop laughing

the people pretending this isn't noticeable should either get their ears checked or close their accounts

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Lysandear posted...

can people just laugh at silly needless changes

is that ok

No, it needs to be canceled and called out as being terrible and boycotted forever (even though this will not impact sales in any way).

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COVxy posted...

I just...how does this impact your enjoyment of the game at all?

it sounds incredibly unpleasant

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...who the fuck notices something that pointless?

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monkmith posted...

...who the fuck notices something that pointless?

losers

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well, that and TCRF which documents changes made to different versions of games

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I don't understand how anyone can saw they're basically the same. They sound very different.

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COVxy posted...

I just...how does this impact your enjoyment of the game at all? There's a million reasons why a sound may sound different in different environments, why they may have changed it, etc. Laziness is probably not one of them. Neither tone is something that cannot be produced with a couple of clicks on a sound editing application.

If this is some other version of the game, then it's likely that a .wav file just got misplaced, and a high pitched tone is a reasonable choice for a go signal (see mario kart).

But really, the primary issue is why you are concerning yourself with this as if it's some sort of controversy lol.

It's just an edited ROM file, no reason to think a sound effect was misplaced. In fact, I can probably get it myself. If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say the original sound file didn't play nice with the emulator so they put something else in. The fact that they didn't rework the heatwave blur and some stuff is stretched for widescreen suggests this was a pretty small budget, and probably put together pretty quickly. This does show that Nintendo has been holding off giving us N64 games though, and I'll be interested to see what modders can do with ROM injection. I suspect we'll be sold an emulated copy of Ocarina of Time some time in the future... but we'll see.

The sound effect is probably right here: https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Sunshine
Which is just a bunch of sounds ripped from the game.

I'm still buying it though. It was pretty clear from the initial trailer that this collection was pretty slap dash, and the issues are fairly minor overall.

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The heatwave effect being gone is something I'll definitely miss. Easily gave the idea of how hot the island was and hid the pop-in issues.
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monkmith posted...

...who the fuck notices something that pointless?

Generate some context for yourself.

If it was just the one thing, it wouldn't matter. But how often is it just one thing?

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Since the game is being emulated it could just be a sound glitch

this is what i'm thinking.

https://youtu.be/tMYaWXd1VvA?t=2587

here's what it sounds like when you run the SNES version of stickerbrush symphony through poor emulation. you'll notice notes trail on and don't have certain effects kick in.

what this sounds like to me is that the same effect is being used in both instances, but an amount of vibrato is being applied to the GCN version.
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Personally I think most of the anger has two parts 1) the game/ title was leaked early and 2) there were like no releases scheduled when it was leaked. These two things fueled rampant speculation that this could be full fledged remakes as a holiday title, along with the inclusion of Galaxy 2. Or 64 might be a touched version of the DS remake with the 30 extra stars/ new levels. Or even ports with nice QoL improvements like something to help with blue coins. Then it turned out to be what might be the absolute bare minimum to justify this collection, which probably would have been fine had people not been hyped. The fanbase would probably have said "huh, that's neat" and moved on.

And now it's raising a question: is this why there's no N64 on NSO? Are we going to get something like this for Zelda next year with OoT?

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Jabodie posted...

I'm still buying it though. It was pretty clear from the initial trailer that this collection was pretty slap dash, and the issues are fairly minor overall.

Yeah I don't fault folks for being disappointed but I never expected this collection to be anything more than "okay here's a few of the big 3D mario games bundled together and playing as they were at their release"

Some people I feel got hyped up for something that just wasn't promised. I saw a bunch of folks saying stuff like "It's all 4 major 3D mario games rebuilt in the Odyssey engine!" or similar stuff, and it's like, guys that was never even suggested or hinted at and that would probably take a ton of work to put together.


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lazy collection

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Doom_Art posted...

I never expected this collection to be anything more than "okay here's a few of the big 3D mario games bundled together and playing as they were at their release"

but it seems to be even less/worse than that.

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Choco posted...

but it seems to be even less/worse than that.

Well, it is emulation. I'll never exist an emulated product to come out perfect.

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I'll never exist

not with that attitude
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Doom_Art posted...

I never expected this collection to be anything more than "okay here's a few of the big 3D mario games bundled together and playing as they were at their release"

The issue is the experience is worse across the board. SM64 and SMS are noticeable downgrades, and even the compilation's UI had zero effort put into it. You can barely read it, as it's rendered in 720p and the games' covers look like they were resized in MS Paint.

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So it's not a port then? Since it has changes? All this time people saying it was a port and turns out it's not, smh.


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It also doesn't help there are literal superior source ports of Mario 64 going around now

Edit: well I guess the code here was reverse engineered. But still, that's even harder than starting with the source code


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No heatwave blur? Nintendone.
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Conflict posted...

Also this guy tweeted more stuff that he noticed

https://twitter.com/GreatGonzales/status/1305838862015574020/photo/1

tbh the heatwave is the only one Id expect to not get fixed in a patch, rest just seems like bugs

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