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Lolo_Guru
09/30/20 5:44:51 PM
#402:


Surskit posted...
Does it even matter what he said? I think you'd have to be a fool to think Trump isn't racist, lol.

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/30/20 5:49:33 PM
#403:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Fair enough! And I can see where you are coming from too. Like it feels bad to pile on if it feels like the reason for the pile on isn't 100% above board. Because then the opposition will point to the small reason that the most recent pile on wasn't fully accurate and use that to discredit everything else. It's a bad feeling when that happens.
I have no issue being wrong and being educated on something, and I am happy to learn more to better equip myself. It makes me better.

In this case, it's something less for me to give Trump credit for, so I'm glad to have that much.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/30/20 7:28:13 PM
#404:


metroid composite posted...
In fairness, from what I understand of Trump's ego, this particular outburst isn't explicitly racism. He's exploding because he has a personal policy (going back decades) never to concede or apologize about anything. Even after losing lawsuits he would never admit wrongdoing.

He's not necessarily mad (in this case) cause he denounced white supremacy. He's mad because he gave a teleprompter speech where he apologized (regardless of subject).

In fairness to your fairness, getting upset about this in a context-blind way is...still racist, because the context doesn't stop existing.

Big "I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally!" energy even before getting into his specific overt racism

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xp1337
09/30/20 7:31:31 PM
#405:


The House adopted a resolution affirming their support for a peaceful transfer of power.

5 Republicans voted against the resolution. Time to play: Can You Guess Them?

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1311365197538488321

Gaetz, Gohmert, King (IA), Massie, and Higgins

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Grimlyn
09/30/20 7:34:33 PM
#406:


I forgot Steve King is still active after his loss which feels like ages ago now

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LordoftheMorons
09/30/20 7:56:23 PM
#407:


A look at the newest assault on section 230 from our good friend Lindsey:

https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/1311400006562144256

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TotallyNotMI
09/30/20 7:56:28 PM
#408:


Grimlyn posted...
I forgot Steve King is still active after his loss which feels like ages ago now
This was my first thought. Didn't he lose? Was that just a primary?

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LordoftheMorons
09/30/20 7:57:10 PM
#409:


TotallyNotMI posted...
This was my first thought. Didn't he lose? Was that just a primary?
Yeah he lost his primary.

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metroid composite
09/30/20 8:10:43 PM
#410:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
In fairness to your fairness, getting upset about this in a context-blind way is...still racist, because the context doesn't stop existing.

Big "I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally!" energy even before getting into his specific overt racism
I mean, yeah, he shouldn't have been in the situation where his aides made a teleprompter script getting him to apologize in the first place...and he could have avoided being in that situation by not saying stuff on TV that sounded pretty racist earlier that week.

And the whole "I never apologize or admit wrongdoing" motto is obviously going to skew towards existing power structures in the first place (and existing power structures in the US have a notable racist slant).

And you can go even further, and say that let's say Trump never made a slip up, never said a single thing on TV that sounded racist, condemned the KKK without complaint, condemned the Proud Boys without complaint. But quietly supported a lot of the same policies as the Proud Boys. You could still look at his policies and point out how much they hurt black people. (This, by the way, was a point raised by some high profile African American activists):

https://twitter.com/RevDrBarber/status/1311317556414873602

So...yeah, I just don't think we need to take things out of context to get to that conclusion, cause there's plenty of perfectly in-context evidence.

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KamikazePotato
09/30/20 8:12:16 PM
#411:


https://i.imgur.com/jDZnjq8.mp4

"Oh, crap, I just said that"

(click on the link to play it)

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metroid composite
09/30/20 8:17:02 PM
#412:


For something of a little more humorous:

https://www.businessinsider.com/professional-clown-clowns-are-virtuosos-donald-trump-is-not-clown-2020-9

From a professional clown:

"I hope we can set the record straight on what clowns actually are, and they are not Donald Trump."

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ChaosTonyV4
09/30/20 8:21:49 PM
#413:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://i.imgur.com/jDZnjq8.mp4

"Oh, crap, I just said that"

(click on the link to play it)

Even on the site I cant get sound on mobile. Whats he say?

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Grimlyn
09/30/20 8:22:00 PM
#414:


man CNN still has Santorum? would've thought they cut him loose after they got their use last election like Jeffery Lord

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Grimlyn
09/30/20 8:24:16 PM
#415:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Even on the site I cant get sound on mobile. Whats he say?
here's twitter video that should work better than imgur

https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1311184906333155328

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LordoftheMorons
09/30/20 8:36:04 PM
#416:


metroid composite posted...
For something of a little more humorous:

https://www.businessinsider.com/professional-clown-clowns-are-virtuosos-donald-trump-is-not-clown-2020-9

From a professional clown:

"I hope we can set the record straight on what clowns actually are, and they are not Donald Trump."
https://i.redd.it/r1mfx7bn6bq51.jpg

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LordoftheMorons
09/30/20 9:49:36 PM
#417:


https://twitter.com/acosta/status/1311478562491453440?s=21

Sooo I guess Trump is probably gonna pull out of the next two debates and then claim it was actually Joe Biden who quit?

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FFDragon
09/30/20 9:59:25 PM
#418:


I honestly wouldn't be surprised if his campaign managers told him Biden wasn't going while at the same time pulling out themselves to avoid embarrassment.

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KamikazePotato
09/30/20 10:02:51 PM
#419:


Biden needs to go with the debate as scheduled and show up to an empty stage while going "Huh, guess he chickened out"

Best way to deal with this sort of thing

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RaidenGarai
09/30/20 10:04:43 PM
#420:


KamikazePotato posted...
Biden needs to go with the debate as scheduled and show up to an empty stage while going "Huh, guess he chickened out"

Best way to deal with this sort of thing
"Donald Trump is too weak to debate me. What a coward."

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LordoftheMorons
09/30/20 10:10:43 PM
#421:


Meanwhile, some more absolutely disgusting racism from Trump, particularly aimed at refugees:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1311481175689568256?s=21

Who, as it happens, he is illegally totally stopping from entering the country (short thread):

https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1311317759943479307?s=21

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ChaosTonyV4
10/01/20 12:26:33 AM
#422:


https://twitter.com/brandyljensen/status/1311342867965767680?s=21

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/01/20 1:06:41 AM
#423:


Galaxy brain politicking from Ted Cruz (thread)

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1311482331518038016

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xp1337
10/01/20 2:59:34 AM
#424:


jfc at this set of graphs (linking this tweet instead of the article because while the article is good this set of graphs is a ways in and these graphs just jump off the page IMO; article is in the tweet itself besides): https://twitter.com/AdamWeinstein/status/1311455046190731266

The economic impact of COVID-19 has been extremely unequal in who it has affected. The graphs compare the recessions in 1990, 2001, 2008, and 2020 by how each quarter of income earners were affected and COVID-19 has drastically hurt lower-income people more than anyone else. In those recessions, for the most part, people across the income spectrum from high-earners to low-earners were impacted and recovered similarly.

But the pandemic? You look at the graph and it's basically a minor inconveience to the top quarter of income earners and in fact they're above where they were when it all started already. Meanwhile, those in the lowest quarter of income fell off a cliff and their recovery isn't even close to where it was before the pandemic. You see it somewhat mirrored with the middle quarters just not quite as extreme as it is for the bottom quarter.

I know the snap reaction is "Well, yeah, the rich always make it through just fine, if not better off than before, while the poor suffer. No kidding." but the picture these graphs show is just some next level shit in how uniquely bad it is this time.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/01/20 5:02:03 AM
#425:


So I went and saw a Geeks + Gamers video.

Commenters were denying Trump is racist, proclaiming that Democrats are the real racists, and acting impressed that Trump managed to keep the unemployment rate at *only* 8.4% during a pandemic when it was at 20% on him taking office.

What world do these people live in?

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Seanchan
10/01/20 6:30:53 AM
#426:


xp1337 posted...
jfc at this set of graphs (linking this tweet instead of the article because while the article is good this set of graphs is a ways in and these graphs just jump off the page IMO; article is in the tweet itself besides): https://twitter.com/AdamWeinstein/status/1311455046190731266

The economic impact of COVID-19 has been extremely unequal in who it has affected. The graphs compare the recessions in 1990, 2001, 2008, and 2020 by how each quarter of income earners were affected and COVID-19 has drastically hurt lower-income people more than anyone else. In those recessions, for the most part, people across the income spectrum from high-earners to low-earners were impacted and recovered similarly.

But the pandemic? You look at the graph and it's basically a minor inconveience to the top quarter of income earners and in fact they're above where they were when it all started already. Meanwhile, those in the lowest quarter of income fell off a cliff and their recovery isn't even close to where it was before the pandemic. You see it somewhat mirrored with the middle quarters just not quite as extreme as it is for the bottom quarter.

I know the snap reaction is "Well, yeah, the rich always make it through just fine, if not better off than before, while the poor suffer. No kidding." but the picture these graphs show is just some next level shit in how uniquely bad it is this time.

Cynical thinking, but there's probably a certain subset of Republicans who are happy about this, considering Trump is likely to lose. They've tanked the economy and refuse to provide relief, so now they can campaign (for 2022) on how terrible the economy is under the democrats.

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LordoftheMorons
10/01/20 9:34:07 AM
#427:


Trump abuses his office to help his re-election yet again:

https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1311637529343528961?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/01/20 9:48:22 AM
#428:


And in better news, Biden just hit 80% on 538

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RaidenGarai
10/01/20 9:50:46 AM
#429:


Still not high enough to feel comfortable.

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Xeybozn
10/01/20 9:52:50 AM
#430:


Seanchan posted...
Cynical thinking, but there's probably a certain subset of Republicans who are happy about this, considering Trump is likely to lose. They've tanked the economy and refuse to provide relief, so now they can campaign (for 2022) on how terrible the economy is under the democrats.

Does that work if the economy isn't bad for the upper half of the population? Generally the lower half supports the Democrats, and I can't see them being likely to change their minds to support the guys who are actively trying to make their lives worse.

On the other hand, wrecking the poor probably could lead to an increase in support for the GOP among the not-poor. It's just that rather than running on "the economy", they'll run on demonizing the poor. You know, blame them for any increase in social unrest, call for more "law and order", support cutting benefits for "undeserving" people to balance the budget, that sort of thing.
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LordoftheMorons
10/01/20 9:56:00 AM
#431:


RaidenGarai posted...
Still not high enough to feel comfortable.
For sure, but Im happy his odds are moving up!

In other disgusting news:
https://twitter.com/theplumlinegs/status/1311614173042929665?s=21

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LinkMarioSamus
10/01/20 10:31:47 AM
#432:


Everything on the altar of PR.

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metroid composite
10/01/20 11:05:33 AM
#433:


In the least surprising news of the election, Russia is doing its thing again:

https://twitter.com/jc_stubbs/status/1311616857414209536

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metroid composite
10/01/20 1:22:13 PM
#434:


"2% of respondents said the debates changed their vote as opposed to 98% who didn't"

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1311706498066776064

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/01/20 2:45:57 PM
#435:


the left: hey dems can we have a Green New Deal?
dems: no we have Green New Deal at home
Green New Deal at home:
https://twitter.com/evanlweber/status/1311731065992540160?s=19

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red sox 777
10/01/20 2:49:23 PM
#436:


Xeybozn posted...
Does that work if the economy isn't bad for the upper half of the population? Generally the lower half supports the Democrats, and I can't see them being likely to change their minds to support the guys who are actively trying to make their lives worse.

On the other hand, wrecking the poor probably could lead to an increase in support for the GOP among the not-poor. It's just that rather than running on "the economy", they'll run on demonizing the poor. You know, blame them for any increase in social unrest, call for more "law and order", support cutting benefits for "undeserving" people to balance the budget, that sort of thing.

A lot of affluent people are always going to vote Republican because it's in their best financial interest to do so. The tax savings are too high.

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Grimlyn
10/01/20 2:51:08 PM
#437:


should've been the Green Biden Deal

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UshiromiyaEva
10/01/20 2:53:26 PM
#438:


At minimum is should be Biden's Green Deal. The fuck is a Biden Green Deal?

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/01/20 4:05:27 PM
#439:


https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1311718569189806089?s=19

yeah no one hold their breath for Texas to have clean results

For the record, Harris County is where Houston and its suburbs are. One extra mail-in spot for 5 million people is fine, right? That'll surely help take some of the burden off the post office!

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RaidenGarai
10/01/20 4:10:12 PM
#440:


Those damn democrats, trying to rig the election!

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TheRock1525
10/01/20 4:26:21 PM
#441:


Oh no! Trump lost Scott Adams!

https://twitter.com/thejd800/status/1311735674161131520?s=19

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Mr Lasastryke
10/01/20 4:30:47 PM
#442:


lol. haven't watched adams in ages but i remember that back in the day, he claimed that he only acknowledged trump's "master persuasion skills" but would never vote for him ("my political views wildly differ from those of all the candidates").

funny how he's now like "uh actually i was gonna vote for trump BUT NOT ANYMORE THOUGH."

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CaptainOfCrush
10/01/20 4:38:11 PM
#443:


TheRock1525 posted...
Oh no! Trump lost Scott Adams!

https://twitter.com/thejd800/status/1311735674161131520?s=19
I sincerely can't tell if this guy is upset because he wants Trump to be more racist or less racist.

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KamikazePotato
10/01/20 4:40:35 PM
#444:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
I sincerely can't tell if this guy is upset because he wants Trump to be more racist or less racist.
He wants Trump to be racist in plausibly deniable ways.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/01/20 5:04:17 PM
#445:


Pulled up my preview ballot and there are a HELL of a lot more people running for the Georgia Senate special election than even I realized. Warnock still has my vote because he's the only Dem who had a chance, but I've gotta look into all these people.

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Inviso
10/01/20 5:21:14 PM
#446:


https://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-359-92297_99936-541052--,00.html

Lock them up! Lock them up!

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metroid composite
10/01/20 5:25:56 PM
#447:


https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1311732477459865602

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LordoftheMorons
10/01/20 5:28:09 PM
#448:


metroid composite posted...
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1311732477459865602
Classic coward move

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Grimlyn
10/01/20 5:28:43 PM
#449:


if Trump backs out the debate should just go on as scheduled with Biden up on stage with full coverage lmao

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UshiromiyaEva
10/01/20 5:29:49 PM
#450:


Indeed, the absolute best thing for Biden to do would be to still show up.

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red sox 777
10/01/20 5:32:58 PM
#451:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Classic coward move

This time Biden might just call his bluff.

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