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Garioshi
10/18/20 2:45:52 PM
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I hate how this is the only PS2 game that uses O as confirm.

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josifrees
10/18/20 2:48:32 PM
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Not a ps2 game but ffvii also had O to confirm.

I definitely had a lot of fun with the battle system. Story is cool. Wish I could have survived Xenosaga 2

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 2:49:46 PM
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It really isn't the only ps2 game to do that. It isn't even the only Western release of a game to do that on ps2. :l Import more games and it becomes second nature.

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MedeaLysistrata
10/18/20 2:50:25 PM
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where the hell did you get copies of this <_<

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 2:52:33 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
where the hell did you get copies of this <_<
Bought episode I new, got II and III used at GameStop, had to buy them as soon as I saw them in stock because I knew I'd not get another chance like that.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 2:52:46 PM
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josifrees posted...
Not a ps2 game but ffvii also had O to confirm.

I definitely had a lot of fun with the battle system. Story is cool. Wish I could have survived Xenosaga 2
The PS1 was more split on it, which is understandable, but by the PS2, pretty much everyone got the memo that X is confirm in America.

gunplagirl posted...
It really isn't the only ps2 game to do that. It isn't even the only Western release of a game to do that on ps2. :l Import more games and it becomes second nature.
I mean, yeah, I'm exaggerating, but this is also the only PS2 game I've played that does it.

MedeaLysistrata posted...
where the hell did you get copies of this <_<
1 and 2 are floating around for $10 a pop, they're not that rare.

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MedeaLysistrata
10/18/20 2:54:43 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bought episode I new, got II and III used at GameStop, had to buy them as soon as I saw them in stock because I knew I'd not get another chance like that.

Garioshi posted...
The PS1 was more split on it, which is understandable, but by the PS2, pretty much everyone got the memo that X is confirm in America.

I mean, yeah, I'm exaggerating, but this is also the only PS2 game I've played that does it.

1 and 2 are floating around for $10 a pop, they're not that rare.
I know it's not that rare but it's not super common Either way this really makes me want to play III.

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weekoldhotdog
10/18/20 2:56:08 PM
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I used to have the original. TBH, this was the game that made me stop playing JRPGs and pretty much killed anime for me. I made it through about 30-40 hours worth of gameplay and had almost every character unlocked in my party before putting it down.

Are the 2nd and 3rd games as terrible as the first?

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tiornys
10/18/20 2:57:55 PM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Are the 2nd and 3rd games as terrible as the first?
That depends on what you disliked about the first, and whether there was anything you did like.
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gunplagirl
10/18/20 2:59:06 PM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
I used to have the original. TBH, this was the game that made me stop playing JRPGs and pretty much killed anime for me. I made it through about 30-40 hours worth of gameplay and had almost every character unlocked in my party before putting it down.

Are the 2nd and 3rd games as terrible as the first?
It takes most people 25-30 hours to beat and you should have the entire party of 6 together at some point around 2/3rds of the way through that time. :l

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dummy420
10/18/20 3:00:02 PM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
I used to have the original. TBH, this was the game that made me stop playing JRPGs and pretty much killed anime for me. I made it through about 30-40 hours worth of gameplay and had almost every character unlocked in my party before putting it down.

Are the 2nd and 3rd games as terrible as the first?
The second is pretty hated and the 3rd is most peoples favorite. I couldn't finish the second to get to the 3rd. I still have a sealed copy of the 3rd.

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josifrees
10/18/20 3:00:48 PM
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Second one is somehow one of the hardest games to play I have no idea why. I heard the bad reputation and was into X1 a lot so thought it would be alright but jeez it was hard to play

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Garioshi
10/18/20 3:01:45 PM
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.Okay, I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm on the second space ship with chaos, Shion, KOS-MOS, Ziggy, and MOMO. There are enemy robots in the lower hull, and a crashed spaceship that's on fire, and there's urgent music playing. Any idea what to do? Also, do the spaceships ever end?

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tiornys
10/18/20 3:15:29 PM
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josifrees posted...
Second one is somehow one of the hardest games to play I have no idea why. I heard the bad reputation and was into X1 a lot so thought it would be alright but jeez it was hard to play
X2 has a very combo-oriented battle system where you have to do a little more strategizing than average to beat random battles efficiently, and they take a little longer than average even with that. If you just try to power through then every battle will be a slog. It can be a fun game if you can get into the combat, but otherwise it's a chore.

Garioshi posted...
.Okay, I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm on the second space ship with chaos, Shion, KOS-MOS, Ziggy, and MOMO. There are enemy robots in the lower hull, and a crashed spaceship that's on fire, and there's urgent music playing. Any idea what to do? Also, do the spaceships ever end?
Pretty sure you're trying to get to the gear hanger in the lower area of the ship to fight off the invaders.
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Garioshi
10/18/20 3:15:52 PM
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Aha, I found the plot!

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Garioshi
10/18/20 3:20:57 PM
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The plot killed me :(

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josifrees
10/18/20 3:41:59 PM
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i was so sad when I found out the song of nephilim is literally a sample and you can hear it in a million different things. Like...you cant get a girl to sing something original???

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Garioshi
10/18/20 3:46:44 PM
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PSA: Nobody likes bosses that self-heal infinitely. Stop making them.

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VitalGetPrank
10/18/20 3:50:01 PM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
I used to have the original. TBH, this was the game that made me stop playing JRPGs and pretty much killed anime for me. I made it through about 30-40 hours worth of gameplay and had almost every character unlocked in my party before putting it down.

Are the 2nd and 3rd games as terrible as the first?
2nd one's even worse but the 3rd one was so good it made the entire experience worth it.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:00:33 PM
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Is Hammer a running gag in the series?

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 4:06:58 PM
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Garioshi posted...
PSA: Nobody likes bosses that self-heal infinitely. Stop making them.
It stops if you understand how the mechanics work :l

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:17:05 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
It stops if you understand how the mechanics work :l
I mean, I'm trying, but I only figured out how boosting worked because I looked it up. I'm sure there are tons of other pieces to the combat I'm missing, too.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:18:16 PM
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Is that Erin Fitzgerald?

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Zodd3224
10/18/20 4:20:12 PM
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It was the second turn based RPG I ever played and I had no idea what I was doing. Somehow I beat it. Was funny going back and playing it much later and realizing how much easier the game was after I knew how to actually play a game like it.

Anyways episode 1 and episode 3 are two of my favorite games. Episode 2 is trash but has its moments story wise.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:21:07 PM
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Is that Matthew McConnohie?

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 4:23:00 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Is that Erin Fitzgerald?
Unless you're on the third game already, no.

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 4:25:06 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Is that Matthew McConnohie?
Michael is Margulis, if that's who you meant

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:25:53 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Michael is Margulis, if that's who you meant
That's the one. Don't know why I thought he was named Matthew.

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 4:26:50 PM
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Garioshi posted...
That's the one. Don't know why I thought he was named Matthew.
The actor. Yeah, I can't spell the last name for either so I usually get the results of the actor before the voice actor.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:30:05 PM
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Oh shit, he voices Nagi too! That's pretty rad.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 4:59:13 PM
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This dungeon with Jr. is pretty fun.

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Garioshi
10/18/20 8:48:24 PM
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How far am I in, roughly? It feels like I haven't done much, but that might just be because the game's supposed to be episodic.

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gunplagirl
10/18/20 10:57:30 PM
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Garioshi posted...
How far am I in, roughly? It feels like I haven't done much, but that might just be because the game's supposed to be episodic.
After the next dungeon you're about halfway through in script. In terms of gameplay, like a third.

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Garioshi
10/19/20 8:06:57 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
After the next dungeon you're about halfway through in script. In terms of gameplay, like a third.
How does that work?

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loafy013
10/19/20 8:48:11 AM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
2nd one's even worse but the 3rd one was so good it made the entire experience worth it.
I always wonder if the 3rd is as good as I remember, or if it was propped up by the 2nd having such a shitty battle system.

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gunplagirl
10/19/20 8:52:44 AM
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Garioshi posted...
How does that work?
Did you ever play FFX?
The halfway point for the script is at the Moonflow. The general consensus is that the halfway point for gameplay is at or right after Macalania Temple.

Same deal here. Dungeons will start to get dramatically longer from here on out, as well as having a scene scattered here and there rather than a bunch of back to back movie segments with a room or two in between. There's still a bunch of story stuff right after you finish or arrive at a new place in the story, but well. Don't want to spoil it.

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neverwin
10/19/20 8:54:17 AM
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Use to replay the trilogy constantly. The third game outside a few mech battle is piss easy compared to the first two.

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Garioshi
10/19/20 9:08:51 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Did you ever play FFX?
The halfway point for the script is at the Moonflow. The general consensus is that the halfway point for gameplay is at or right after Macalania Temple.

Same deal here. Dungeons will start to get dramatically longer from here on out, as well as having a scene scattered here and there rather than a bunch of back to back movie segments with a room or two in between. There's still a bunch of story stuff right after you finish or arrive at a new place in the story, but well. Don't want to spoil it.
Gotcha.

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Garioshi
10/19/20 12:03:49 PM
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Is Shion just the worst party member period, or am I missing something?

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tiornys
10/19/20 12:22:57 PM
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Shion has some strong tech attacks and some great ethers. Have you been improving her stats at all?
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Garioshi
10/19/20 12:25:20 PM
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tiornys posted...
Shion has some strong tech attacks and some great ethers. Have you been improving her stats at all?
I've just been leveling up.

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josifrees
10/19/20 12:31:20 PM
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Shion is awesome I forget what attack combos I used but she was decimating everything at end game

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Garioshi
10/19/20 2:49:33 PM
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It really feels like I'm doing something wrong because the combat is so utterly tedious and unfun.

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Garioshi
10/19/20 3:51:31 PM
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Man, Gargoyle is absolutely kicking my ass.

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Cornhuskers
10/19/20 3:54:48 PM
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WAITING for a Persona PS2 topic ;)
Never really liked Xenosaga series.
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gunplagirl
10/19/20 3:58:55 PM
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You should be able to shorten the cast time and use a faster shortcut for tech attacks by now. Spamming triangle>spell ray and triangle>spell ray>spell ray really shortens a lot of battles for where you're at in the game. Also don't forget to use skill points for stat boosts. :l

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tiornys
10/19/20 4:00:08 PM
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Garioshi posted...
It really feels like I'm doing something wrong because the combat is so utterly tedious and unfun.
Spend at least some of your Tech points on character stats. It can make a big difference.
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Garioshi
10/19/20 4:11:09 PM
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Ding dong, the gargoyle is dead. Shit was tough.
Definitely going to dump TP into stats now.

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Garioshi
10/19/20 4:14:45 PM
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What's the general consensus on Xenosaga 1 + 2, by the way? Seems crazy that they could cram 2 gigantic PS2 games into a single DS game.

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gunplagirl
10/19/20 5:22:49 PM
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Garioshi posted...
What's the general consensus on Xenosaga 1 + 2, by the way? Seems crazy that they could cram 2 gigantic PS2 games into a single DS game.
Wouldn't recommend unless you can read Japanese because there's a LOOOOT of text and stuff that differs from how it's presented in the PS2 titles.

I think it also had a few references to Xenofreaks.

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