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Drumpf
10/31/20 9:39:35 AM
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https://twitter.com/gndrqr98/status/1320659954836099072?s=19

The argument holds up from their own logic... HOWEVER, these are places that wouldn't acknowledge that, and it detracts from the horrible issue itself

I don't care what twitter is calling it, its still fucked up and that's what needs to change. (first world problems)

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AirFresh
10/31/20 9:41:26 AM
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I have absolutely no knowledge on this matter and until I educate myself I will not comment, lol.

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The Trent
10/31/20 9:47:14 AM
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twitter genius on the loose!

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ledbowman
10/31/20 9:48:26 AM
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but they are inherently female? which is why men who want to be women get a sex change?

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Chadwick69
10/31/20 9:49:35 AM
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Do they just sit there and brainstorm ways to victimize themselves?
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yutterh
10/31/20 9:49:47 AM
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ledbowman posted...
but they are inherently female? which is why men who want to be women get a sex change?

Females becoming males still probably have it.

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Benderill0
10/31/20 9:56:19 AM
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Is this what clamoring for attention looks like?

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synth_real
10/31/20 9:58:41 AM
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I agree with her, we should just call it genital mutilation, and condemn genital mutilation practices as a whole.

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uwnim
10/31/20 10:00:56 AM
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Female to male transgenders would just be men with female genitalia. The female in female genital isn't female as in the gender.

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Esrac
10/31/20 10:05:36 AM
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That has to be one of the most obnoxious Twitter bios I've ever seen. So much so, that I almost suspect it's a fake.
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COVxy
10/31/20 10:06:50 AM
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Really just a tweet to garner attention. Not really the best way to make the argument she's trying to make.

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DeadBankerDream
10/31/20 10:07:38 AM
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What a stupid comment by a no doubt stupid person.
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Blue_Dream87
10/31/20 10:08:32 AM
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synth_real posted...
I agree with her, we should just call it genital mutilation, and condemn genital mutilation practices as a whole.

Male and female genital mutilation/circumcision are 2 totally different beasts and practiced for very different reasons.

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VanananaHeyHey
10/31/20 10:09:16 AM
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Why do liberal feminists keep conflating sex and gender?

Femaleness or maleness or intersexness (most intersex conditions are linked to one sex or another, not a split-down-the-middle third) are immutable. Every person born in the world ever has been female, male or intersex and it has never changed in their lifetime.

Gender changes between culture and across time. It is an artificial social structure that, no matter the numbers of gender recognized, overwhelmingly and across cultures is used for oppressing female people beneath male people for the reproductive, domestic and emotional benefit of the males. Gender is almost always based on binary categories that correspond exactly to the real male/female sexual dimorphism of humans.

Vulvas are not inherently female in that someone intersex could have one, but the purpose of female genital mutilation is to reinforce sexual purity/punishment/fidelity of female people in the Women gender category. Incidental intersex victimization is the exception that proves the rule.

Female genital mutilation is a gender-affirming act in that it definitely, 100% reinforces what the expected gender role is but it is not done for the individual's self actualization. To say that the term 'female genital mutilation' invalidates someone's identity would be a mockery of the human rights violation of FGM and of what identity politics actually stands for.

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Chadwick69
10/31/20 10:20:52 AM
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I'm glad to see this person getting absolutely shit on in the replies on Twitter lol.
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KevinDunn
10/31/20 10:29:12 AM
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"Anyone that disagrees with me is a bigot"

- standard liberal logic
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COVxy
10/31/20 10:45:44 AM
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VanananaHeyHey posted...
Why do liberal feminists keep conflating sex and gender?

Nobody is conflating anything. You are just confused. Or "confused".

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gamer167
10/31/20 10:47:45 AM
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Imagine how privileged your life has to be to have the time to waste to actually care about something like this.
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monkmith
10/31/20 10:48:10 AM
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random internet person says a thing. more at 11.

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VanananaHeyHey
10/31/20 10:54:52 AM
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COVxy posted...
Nobody is conflating anything. You are just confused. Or "confused".
No? Explain yourself.

Sex is unchanging, gender is culture-bound and socialized. Transwomen are male, even if they are women; transmen are female, even if they are men. People who identify as non-binary are often said to "not identify as male or female," but that's as meaningless as not identifying as having bones --- they can only opt to not identify with being within the gender category they wish to escape.

The tweet says that vulvas aren't inherently female (and also argues that 'male' and 'female' are gendered words in other tweets). I have conceded the intersex exception already. They blatantly and completely says "sex and gender are the same thing." They are not. Liberal feminists often say that sex and gender are different, but what I see far more often is "transwomen have female penises," which, again, requires us to believe that sex and gender are the same thing, otherwise they would just have penises (which are a male/XY expression) and still be women without that contestation. The person is correct that medical forms should only be asking for sex; however the change to 'gender' is recent in my lifetime and was done to accommodate accusations that selecting accurate sex information was cruel to people who wish to occupy another gender category. They are demanding it be both ways and relying on the worst essentialism, rather than just read actual feminist literature.



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ThyCorndog
10/31/20 11:03:03 AM
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King_Hutton
10/31/20 11:03:24 AM
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I dont think the people carrying out forced female genital mutilation give a shit about the gender of their victims

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celestia3
10/31/20 11:05:42 AM
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King_Hutton posted...
I dont think the people carrying out forced female genital mutilation give a shit about the gender of their victims
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

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gamer167
10/31/20 11:53:11 AM
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Yeah how about spend less energy worrying about the word female and more on genital mutilation.
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Irony
10/31/20 11:54:46 AM
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I find that term offensive. The correct term is pounding the cervix.

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_HayleyWilliams
10/31/20 11:55:50 AM
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I hate all genital mutilation. Female or male

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Returning_CEmen
10/31/20 12:02:20 PM
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Twitter was a mistake
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Rika_Furude
10/31/20 12:05:46 PM
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DJquackquack
10/31/20 2:06:01 PM
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I cant even tell which side shes arguing for. Is she for or against trans people?
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Drumpf
10/31/20 10:48:51 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
I cant even tell which side shes arguing for. Is she for or against trans people?

for

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Unsugarized_Foo
10/31/20 10:51:27 PM
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I'll stop once people stop giving AIDS to kids because they think it's the cure

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ColdOne666
10/31/20 11:07:23 PM
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I new twitter was full of morons.

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garan
11/01/20 12:54:18 AM
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Benderill0 posted...
Is this what clamoring for attention looks like?


Yes.
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