Current Events > Trump once again pushing his fascist "patriotic education" nonsense

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Phynaster 10/31/20 9:06:42 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1322652327367507968 Always respect our great American flag, says the guy no longer flying the flag at his rallies in favor of the anti-BLM fascist banner. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946554954] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1322652327367507968 Always respect our great American flag, says the guy no longer flying the flag at his rallies in favor of the anti-BLM fascist banner. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 10/31/20 9:08:24 PM #2:	Gosh, how entertaining would it be to hear him try to actually explain what radical indoctrination is supposedly happening in schools. >_> --- #1 Kaiju Fangirl https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:946555005] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Gosh, how entertaining would it be to hear him try to actually explain what radical indoctrination is supposedly happening in schools. >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 10/31/20 9:14:03 PM #3:	Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:946555151] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/31/20 9:14:44 PM #4:	AlisLandale posted... Gosh, how entertaining would it be to hear him try to actually explain what radical indoctrination is supposedly happening in schools. >_> Our suspicion of elites and what could be seen as anti-intellectualism can be healthy at times; we can see the American philosophical traditions of pragmatism and empiricism in this light, which can in fact serve as counterweights to the grandiose myths of fascist politics. But even this version has proven to be a weakness, one that makes us more susceptible to being manipulated politically. We have seen this play out in the case of climate change, where essentially apolitical scientists were successfully demonized as ideologues. We also have a history of what I think of as more classically fascist anti-intellectualism.Fascist anti-intellectualism sets the traditions of the chosen nation, its dominant group, above all other traditions. It represents more complex narratives as corrupting and dangerous. It prizes mythologizing about the nations past, and erasing any of its problematic features (as we see all too often in histories of the Confederacy and the Reconstruction period, or of the treatment in history books of our indigenous communities). It seeks to replace truth with myth, transforming education systems into methods of glorifying the ideologies and heritage of the members of the traditional ruling class. In fascist politics, universities, which present a more complex and accurate version of history and current reality, are attacked for being places where dominant traditions or practices are critiqued. Fascist ideology centers loyalty to power rather than truth. In fascist thinking, the university is simply another tool to legitimate various illiberal hierarchies connected to historically dominant traditions. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946555170] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>Gosh, how entertaining would it be to hear him try to actually explain what radical indoctrination is supposedly happening in schools. >_></quote>Our suspicion of elites and what could be seen as anti-intellectualism can be healthy at times; we can see the American philosophical traditions of pragmatism and empiricism in this light, which can in fact serve as counterweights to the grandiose myths of fascist politics. But even this version has proven to be a weakness, one that makes us more susceptible to being manipulated politically. We have seen this play out in the case of climate change, where essentially apolitical scientists were successfully demonized as ideologues. We also have a history of what I think of as more classically fascist anti-intellectualism.Fascist anti-intellectualism sets the traditions of the chosen nation, its dominant group, above all other traditions. It represents more complex narratives as corrupting and dangerous. It prizes mythologizing about the nations past, and erasing any of its problematic features (as we see all too often in histories of the Confederacy and the Reconstruction period, or of the treatment in history books of our indigenous communities). It seeks to replace truth with myth, transforming education systems into methods of glorifying the ideologies and heritage of the members of the traditional ruling class. In fascist politics, universities, which present a more complex and accurate version of history and current reality, are attacked for being places where dominant traditions or practices are critiqued. Fascist ideology centers loyalty to power rather than truth. In fascist thinking, the university is simply another tool to legitimate various illiberal hierarchies connected to historically dominant traditions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J03can 10/31/20 9:15:25 PM #5:	ColdOne666 posted... Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. No it isn't --- Jerry, it's Frank Costanza!!! Mr Steinbrenner's here George is dead - call me back!!!! <cite>J03can posted [p:946555189] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything.</quote>No it isn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 10/31/20 9:15:49 PM #6:	ColdOne666 posted... Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. since you seem confident enough in Trumps vision for patriotic education to claim its better than something else, please explain for us what exactly should be changed? >_> --- #1 Kaiju Fangirl https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:946555207] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything.</quote> since you seem confident enough in Trumps vision for patriotic education to claim its better than something else, please explain for us what exactly should be changed? >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 10/31/20 9:16:46 PM #7:	I don't don't even like Trump, i just don't like the left either. They all suck. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:946555232] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>I don't don't even like Trump, i just don't like the left either. They all suck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 10/31/20 9:18:03 PM #8:	ColdOne666 posted... I don't don't even like Trump, i just don't like the left either. They all suck. yes but how is that relevant to the topic at hand? --- #1 Kaiju Fangirl https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:946555271] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't don't even like Trump, i just don't like the left either. They all suck.</quote> yes but how is that relevant to the topic at hand? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 10/31/20 9:19:20 PM #9:	He and the people that believe that shit are dumb as fuck. If anything needs to be changed, it's the 6 years of Algebra/Geometry back to back until junior year. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:946555301] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>He and the people that believe that shit are dumb as fuck. If anything needs to be changed, it's the 6 years of Algebra/Geometry back to back until junior year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/31/20 9:21:56 PM #10:	ColdOne666 posted... Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. Teaching the actual history of the US does not make you hate everything. It simply forces you to understand the reality of the world you live in and that you should try and be better. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:946555374] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything.</quote>Teaching the actual history of the US does not make you hate everything. It simply forces you to understand the reality of the world you live in and that you should try and be better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/31/20 9:22:57 PM #11:	https://mobile.twitter.com/ValzhynaMort/status/1322309143420612610 This is the fascist goal for the academy --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946555409] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/ValzhynaMort/status/1322309143420612610 This is the fascist goal for the academy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 10/31/20 9:23:32 PM #12:	The phrase "patriotic education" should send shivers down any American's spine. "Patriotic education" is the language of dictators who want to feed propaganda to their own people. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:946555427] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>The phrase "patriotic education" should send shivers down any American's spine. "Patriotic education" is the language of dictators who want to feed propaganda to their own people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 10/31/20 9:23:50 PM #13:	AlisLandale posted... yes but how is that relevant to the topic at hand? It's relevant because he wants people to look at him like a big special boy but doesn't want to be informed enough to actually have an articulable understanding of the issues --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:946555436] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>yes but how is that relevant to the topic at hand?</quote> It's relevant because he wants people to look at him like a big special boy but doesn't want to be informed enough to actually have an articulable understanding of the issues </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/31/20 9:24:33 PM #14:	ColdOne666 posted... Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. Not everything. Just you. And yours. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:946555456] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything.</quote>Not everything. Just you. And yours. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 10/31/20 9:24:49 PM #15:	Better to be taught to love your country than to hate it like what's been happening <cite>coh posted [p:946555469] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Better to be taught to love your country than to hate it like what's been happening </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/31/20 9:25:25 PM #16:	coh posted... Better to be taught to love your country than to hate it like what's been happening Which class is teaching hatred? Give me the curriculum. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:946555486] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>coh posted... </cite> <quote>Better to be taught to love your country than to hate it like what's been happening</quote>Which class is teaching hatred? Give me the curriculum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 10/31/20 9:26:16 PM #17:	he's also declaring tomorrow a day of remembrance for americans killed by illegal immigrants but the left calls everyone fascist! that word doesn't mean anything anymore! --- https://imgur.com/hLHUnOI You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:946555508] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>he's also declaring tomorrow a day of remembrance for americans killed by illegal immigrants but the left calls everyone fascist! that word doesn't mean anything anymore! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 10/31/20 9:26:55 PM #18:	CyricZ posted... Which class is teaching hatred? Give me the curriculum. all those commie core classes /s --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:946555523] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Which class is teaching hatred? Give me the curriculum.</quote>all those commie core classes /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 10/31/20 9:28:46 PM #19:	Yeah, to hell with all the real world facts about the promotion of dictatorships throughout Latin and South America. To hell with the Japanese internment camps. To hell with all the bad the US has done. It's totally bad for the US education system to promote education that teach the truth like those things, right Trumpster Fire? --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:946555576] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, to hell with all the real world facts about the promotion of dictatorships throughout Latin and South America. To hell with the Japanese internment camps. To hell with all the bad the US has done. It's totally bad for the US education system to promote education that teach the truth like those things, right Trumpster Fire? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/31/20 9:29:29 PM #20:	https://twitter.com/jasonintrator/status/1321201974533103620?s=20 --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946555601] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/jasonintrator/status/1321201974533103620?s=20 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/31/20 9:36:18 PM #21:	It also should be noted that that one of the first steps in the Nazification of Germany (Gleichschaltung) was changing the school curriculums to bring the lessons into line with Nazi teachings on race and history. @Sayoria Why not? We already don't teach in schools that people (socialists and communists mostly) had to fight cops, the military, and company goons, and quite often die doing so just for the ability to have a 40 hour work week, a weekend, overtime pay, safer work environments, (OSHA didn't come about till much later, after a bunch of women died from radiation poisoning in a radium dial factory) and an end to child labor. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:946555829] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>It also should be noted that that one of the first steps in the Nazification of Germany (Gleichschaltung) was changing the school curriculums to bring the lessons into line with Nazi teachings on race and history. @Sayoria Why not? We already don't teach in schools that people (socialists and communists mostly) had to fight cops, the military, and company goons, and quite often die doing so just for the ability to have a 40 hour work week, a weekend, overtime pay, safer work environments, (OSHA didn't come about till much later, after a bunch of women died from radiation poisoning in a radium dial factory) and an end to child labor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LastTomorrow 10/31/20 9:42:22 PM #22:	Don't we already teach history in schools and make a big deal in saying the pledge of alligance. --- Waffle, waffle, waffle <cite>LastTomorrow posted [p:946556035] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Don't we already teach history in schools and make a big deal in saying the pledge of alligance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 10/31/20 9:43:38 PM #23:	LastTomorrow posted... Don't we already teach history in schools How is this an issue? It's important to learn history so you dont repeat it. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:946556076] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>LastTomorrow posted...</cite> <quote>Don't we already teach history in schools </quote> How is this an issue? It's important to learn history so you dont repeat it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 10/31/20 9:45:11 PM #24:	Duncanwii posted... How is this an issue? It's important to learn history so you dont repeat it. I can say with a degree of confidence I have not felt in many years that you are missing the idea by an astronomical level. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:946556131] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>How is this an issue? It's important to learn history so you dont repeat it.</quote>I can say with a degree of confidence I have not felt in many years that you are missing the idea by an astronomical level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 10/31/20 9:45:55 PM #25:	Will they be taught to honour this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:946556161] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Will they be taught to honour this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/31/20 9:46:19 PM #26:	LastTomorrow posted... Don't we already teach history in schools and make a big deal in saying the pledge of alligance. Trump wants history to be even more whitewashed and lionizing than it currently is. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946556178] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>LastTomorrow posted... </cite> <quote>Don't we already teach history in schools and make a big deal in saying the pledge of alligance.</quote>Trump wants history to be even more whitewashed and lionizing than it currently is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 10/31/20 9:48:01 PM #27:	Hexenherz posted... I can say with a degree of confidence I have not felt in many years that you are missing the idea by an astronomical level. I love history, I have a History degree. Learning History has been a favorite of mine as far as classes go. ~~But I'm terrible at remembering any of it.~~ --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:946556238] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote> I can say with a degree of confidence I have not felt in many years that you are missing the idea by an astronomical level. </quote> I love history, I have a History degree. Learning History has been a favorite of mine as far as classes go. But I'm terrible at remembering any of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/31/20 9:48:53 PM #28:	Duncanwii posted... I love history, I have a History degree. An AA (and wow you finally got one, I'm amazed) is not "a history degree." --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946556266] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I love history, I have a History degree.</quote>An AA (and wow you finally got one, I'm amazed) is not "a history degree." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 10/31/20 9:50:10 PM #29:	Phynaster posted... An AA (and wow you finally got one, I'm amazed) is not "a history degree." Finally? I've had this for years. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:946556298] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted...</cite> <quote> An AA (and wow you finally got one, I'm amazed) is not "a history degree." </quote> Finally? I've had this for years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsianFury2020 10/31/20 9:51:52 PM #30:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre --- Kaze no yo ni Hayaku! <cite>AsianFury2020 posted [p:946556350] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/31/20 10:20:23 PM #31:	Duncanwii posted... Finally? I've had this for years. Cool story, still not a real degree. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:946557237] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Finally? I've had this for years.</quote>Cool story, still not a real degree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VonOrdelia 10/31/20 10:22:13 PM #32:	ColdOne666 posted... Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything. fart sounds --- https://i.redd.it/t6wrq7tjt7q51.jpg <cite>VonOrdelia posted [p:946557291] in Trump once... [t:79077081]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>Its better then the leftist alternative which is to automatically hate everything.</quote>fart sounds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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