Board 8 > Genshin Impact Topic 3: The artifact hunt begins

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azuarc
11/28/20 11:50:36 PM
#1:


What AR have you reached?










Okay, I'll do it.

Some resources, mostly from the sticky in the GI forum:

Respawnable fodder artifacts
https://ibb.co/BrnyC3j

Bosses who can drop artifacts
https://ibb.co/jkKNvFM

Unmarked trials that give out adventure rank
https://ibb.co/mqVpFGD

Spawn locations for monsters to farm mats (includes some not marked in your adventure book)
https://ibb.co/nP6nghg
(Highest level versions for best mats)
https://ibb.co/Wcbk2sf

Trails to follow for character ascension materials
https://ibb.co/KzFK7P5

Days of the week chart for material farming
https://ibb.co/vXDtzq5

Elemental reaction chart
https://ibb.co/7gfP3fX

Genshin Impact interactable map
https://genshin-impact-map.appsample.com/#/

Ascension farming planner
https://genshin.poporing.life/#

Spreadsheet with a bunch of comps
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0G2SDIOp9WB7NRn3ABoRgsS_Qjid46g1-BswFrbTFY/edit#gid=1966851487

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azuarc
11/28/20 11:54:26 PM
#2:


@profDEADPOOL
What's actually good for me to spend resin on at AR25, now that I've finished up the event?

I would be focused on planning out your ascension materials. If you're situated for your current level, start preparing your team for 30 by killing the elemental bosses (cubes, etc) and running weapon domains. If you have all those covered, you can look into talent materials, too. Don't forget talents exist!

But don't blow resources on things you don't need. It's easy to fill like "it'd be nice" to start improving a bunch of other characters, and that's a Bad Idea (tm). You will need those resources. When in doubt, you can go always go back to leylines, though I wouldn't do the blue ones until they start giving you Hero's Wit.

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agesboy
11/29/20 1:12:13 AM
#3:


@SwiftyDC
I messed up and used both prototypes I've gotten to make Whiteblind's for Noelle early on in the game.
it's not ideal but diluc with whiteblind is easily better than trying to main dps jean. although actually, debate club is actually weirdly good on him. it's the one single 3* weapon i ever actually hear being talked about. wouldn't use it over animus but probably over whiteblind?

diluc is meta-defining good and jean is arguably the weakest 5*, mostly saved by her capability as a jack of all trades healer+res debuffer+burst dps

if you need ice, even a low level kaeya usually works fine. chongyun's main drawback is that he wants to be support for a main dps ice unit that just doesn't exist. his E usually lowers your damage if you just slap it into a team willy nilly because you aren't going to be scaling ice elemental damage on anyone other than him

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SwiftyDC
11/29/20 1:15:55 AM
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agesboy posted...
@SwiftyDC
it's not ideal but diluc with whiteblind is easily better than trying to main dps jean. although actually, debate club is actually weirdly good on him. it's the one single 3* weapon i ever actually hear being talked about. wouldn't use it over animus but probably over whiteblind?

diluc is meta-defining good and jean is arguably the weakest 5*, mostly saved by her capability as a jack of all trades healer+res debuffer+burst dps

if you need ice, even a low level kaeya usually works fine. chongyun's main drawback is that he wants to be support for a main dps ice unit that just doesn't exist. his E usually lowers your damage if you just slap it into a team willy nilly because you aren't going to be scaling ice elemental damage on anyone other than him

Eh, I like her alot actually. It might not be the "meta" but I built her cause I rolled the Aquila Favonia. I like yeeting enemies all over the field.

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Menji
11/29/20 1:42:01 AM
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profDEADPOOL
11/29/20 1:42:46 AM
#6:


azuarc posted...
@profDEADPOOL
What's actually good for me to spend resin on at AR25, now that I've finished up the event?

I would be focused on planning out your ascension materials. If you're situated for your current level, start preparing your team for 30 by killing the elemental bosses (cubes, etc) and running weapon domains. If you have all those covered, you can look into talent materials, too. Don't forget talents exist!

But don't blow resources on things you don't need. It's easy to fill like "it'd be nice" to start improving a bunch of other characters, and that's a Bad Idea (tm). You will need those resources. When in doubt, you can go always go back to leylines, though I wouldn't do the blue ones until they start giving you Hero's Wit.

That makes sense, good to know.
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BK_Sheikah00
11/29/20 8:49:51 AM
#7:


So I wonder if there's any math out there for using condensed resin on artifact domains. Because if I can get the same amount of loot with less runs/time spent, that sounds appealing. But I don't know if the odds would be worse (like, would it guarantee 2 5* per run? Or if it would still be 1 per run which makes it awful.).

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Sceptilesolar
11/29/20 9:31:08 AM
#8:


It's exactly the same as the rewards from two runs combined. You are paying 1 crystal core and 100 mora to save time, which is a great deal.

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Colegreen_c12
11/29/20 9:55:52 AM
#9:


tag. I'll be around this afternoon (EST) for artifact farming if people want.

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dowolf
11/29/20 11:38:39 AM
#10:


azuarc posted...
Respawnable fodder artifacts
https://ibb.co/BrnyC3j

That's missing a few that I know of. Here's a map I've been using: https://files.catbox.moe/nlcfvz.jpg
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azuarc
11/29/20 11:54:26 AM
#11:


I literally just c/p'ed the sticky from the Genshin Impact board. I'm sure that's not the only resource that's out of date, but I didn't want to take an hour hunting when we were in need of a topic.

And I can probably make myself available at some point this afternoon. I woke up really late, so my day's all out of whack now.

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swordz9
11/29/20 12:33:20 PM
#12:


Im transferring stuff to my PS5, but I have no idea if Ill have to re-sign into Genshin when I do. Not sure I remember my login stuff lol
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swordz9
11/29/20 3:46:14 PM
#13:


https://i.redd.it/wikqr7wos3261.jpg

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azuarc
11/29/20 4:00:29 PM
#14:


Now I get to play the "do I want to save my gems for that banner or quick spend them now?" game. Consdering I'm nowhere near pity, I guess that's a matter of how much do I like the 4-stars. I'm still missing one on the current (Ning) and two on the upcoming (have Razor).

Also, I'm finally home if anyone wanted to run domains.

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Sceptilesolar
11/29/20 4:19:12 PM
#15:


I don't have any resin right now, but I do need to take you up on it at some point. I tried running the domain with the electro sets, and it's an enormous pain, fire DPS or not.

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azuarc
11/29/20 4:22:17 PM
#16:


I can solo that one without too much trouble. I'll help with that and you can carry me through the fire one. =)

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SwiftyDC
11/29/20 9:13:18 PM
#17:


*chooses Lv 50 Venti for Lv 90 Noblesse Oblige domain*
Friend: Oh he's only 50.
Friend: Why do you hate Venti
Me: Still good at 50
*beats domain*
Friend: Venti is busted lol

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agesboy
11/29/20 10:05:09 PM
#18:


venti has relatively high modifiers so no reason not to devote a lot of effort to him

for me, one imbued q will kill nearly everything out in exploration and mine's still wearing 4* artifacts

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azuarc
11/29/20 10:26:43 PM
#19:


SwiftyDC posted...
*chooses Lv 50 Venti for Lv 90 Noblesse Oblige domain*
Friend: Oh he's only 50.
Friend: Why do you hate Venti
Me: Still good at 50
*beats domain*
Friend: Venti is busted lol

Was there. Can confirm.

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SwiftyDC
11/29/20 11:39:58 PM
#20:


agesboy posted...
venti has relatively high modifiers so no reason not to devote a lot of effort to him

for me, one imbued q will kill nearly everything out in exploration and mine's still wearing 4* artifacts

I mean, he already makes things easy for us at Lv 50. That means I can put my resources toward my main (anemo) squeeze Jean. ;)

Hes definitely soft and can get OHKO if I slip up and get surrounded by enemies. But Im ok with that since it kinda fits his character. His elemental recharge is super high so his Q is always up. When Im done getting the resources to level Jean to 90 Ill work on him next (atleast until Xiao comes out).

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agesboy
11/30/20 12:21:53 AM
#21:


you should really at least get him up to get his ascension passive because it makes every Q help your friends a ton

if you're running two of one element, then an infused Q costing 60 energy will restore 45 energy across the party

not to mention the raw levels scale the swirls a lot because all reactions scale off of is Elemental Master + base level

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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 12:26:44 AM
#22:


agesboy posted...
you should really at least get him up to get his ascension passive because it makes every Q help your friends a ton

if you're running two of one element, then an infused Q costing 60 energy will restore 45 energy across the party

not to mention the raw levels scale the swirls a lot because all reactions scale off of is Elemental Master + base level

Hmm, I'll look into that. I didn't know about that passive ability.

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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 12:41:43 AM
#23:




Not sure if this has been confirmed or not, but daaaaamn.

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azuarc
11/30/20 1:01:53 AM
#24:


I've seen a few variations on it. It's pretty well assumed that it's accurate.

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profDEADPOOL
11/30/20 1:45:06 AM
#25:


Is there a list of what weapons are the best in each class somewhere, don't really want to grind to promote ones that aren't worth using.

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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 1:58:27 AM
#26:


profDEADPOOL posted...
Is there a list of what weapons are the best in each class somewhere, don't really want to grind to promote ones that aren't worth using.

https://gamewith.net/genshin-impact/article/show/22884

https://gamewith.net/genshin-impact/article/show/22376

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agesboy
11/30/20 2:23:32 AM
#27:


if its substat is atk or crit it's automatically value, and elemental mastery is good on characters that use reactions

if it's anything else you have to actually pay attention to the effect because some of them are very specific uses (whiteblind on noelle, favonius if you need energy, prototype malice for literally only barbara)

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azuarc
11/30/20 9:30:10 AM
#28:


SwiftyDC posted...
https://gamewith.net/genshin-impact/article/show/22884

I disagree with a lot of the choices on this list.

  • Anemo MC is recommended to use Favonius Sword rather than Prototype Rancour or Black Sword.
  • Xiangling is recommended to use Dragon's Bane (which is what I use) over Crescent Pike.
  • Fischl is recommended to use Favonius Warbow rather than basically anything else
And this is just from the characters I've used at length. Even divorced of the context in which you'd use those characters, support vs DPS, these are, at best, sub-optimal choices.

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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 1:00:09 PM
#29:


I just googled something really quick but yeah some of this is subjective.

I like the Crescent Pike better on XL than Dragon's Bane, but I will be giving Crescent to Zhongli when I get him.

I know I should be using Favonius Warbow on Fischl, but I got tired of switching it back and forth from Venti so I just left Rust on her, which is aesthetically pleasing. I like to shoot off some arrows after popping Oz and switching so it works fine.

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agesboy
11/30/20 2:27:47 PM
#30:


the two lists themselves disagree with themselves

they list dragon's bane as the #2 choice for xiangling, but don't mention it in the top 5 for spears (and xiangling is the only spear). but they do have crescent spear on the list for spears, but not xiangling herself

stuff like whether you use favonius or not is completely dependent on whether you actually need the energy recharge, and fischl has such high energy generation rates that you definitely don't need more energy recharge if you're running two lightning, and probably not on other setups unless you don't press buttons at all

they don't also recommend weapons based on role they're being used for, which changes your gearing massively

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azuarc
11/30/20 2:59:54 PM
#31:


Right. That's what I was getting at, without making a deep dive.

That said, I need to find a good weapon for Fischl. It seems like all the "good" choices for support Fischl are things I don't have. (I haz Stringless now? Pretty please?) I've been using Sharpshooter's Oath since a very early level, and haven't replaced it since I haven't had a good alternative. But I'm done upgrading a 3-star, so Fischl's ATK is taking a hit at this point. I do have Sacrifical Bow, but I don't really need energy recharge or Q reset that badly, imo. Only other 4* is Favonius, which I am not interested in at all.

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agesboy
11/30/20 3:03:20 PM
#32:


in a stalemate like that, all you can really do is prioritize whichever has the highest base attack, probably

sacrificial bow has the highest possible base attack out of the 4* bows (44) so that kind of makes up for the lack of substat

(favonius, meanwhile, has the minimum of 41 but greater energy recharge)

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swordz9
11/30/20 3:06:28 PM
#33:


Barbara and Kaeya are the starglitter characters for December apparently.
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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 3:17:50 PM
#34:


swordz9 posted...
Barbara and Kaeya are the starglitter characters for December apparently.

Mehhhhh


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Sceptilesolar
11/30/20 3:19:57 PM
#35:


I haven't bought anyone with starglitter yet and I don't intend to start with Kaeya. Barbara's C6 so she's right out.

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BK_Sheikah00
11/30/20 3:20:23 PM
#36:


I'm gonna hoard my starglitter in case 5 stars start showing up.

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SockoressKnight
11/30/20 3:20:56 PM
#37:


I must have spent some Starglitter on wishes early on, because I have not had enough to actually buy a character

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agesboy
11/30/20 3:56:57 PM
#38:


i starglittered bennett and no regrets he's my most used coop character

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azuarc
11/30/20 3:59:08 PM
#39:


Bennett was my only starglitter thus far, so that I would have him. All the others are characters I've had already.

I guess I could pick up Barbara for her C6. Having a rez sounds nice, right?

agesboy posted...
i starglittered bennett and no regrets he's my most used coop character

With as many people who tout Bennett, I'm wondering if this is a direction I should consider going. I already have Barbara + Diona, and Diluc + Xiangling, though.

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agesboy
11/30/20 4:03:10 PM
#40:


bennett just needs extremely little to be extremely good, and everyone except my main dps right now pretty much has extremely little

he also scales really well with controlling 1 character in coop

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ShatteredElysium
11/30/20 4:06:52 PM
#41:


I would have starglittered Bennett but I didn't get enough. I think I have 28
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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 4:31:50 PM
#42:


Maxed out the BP with 20 days left. Last time Ill be buying the extra 10 levels.

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azuarc
11/30/20 4:59:03 PM
#43:


You bought levels? Why? It's 6 weeks and you can easily get 10 ranks per week.

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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 5:11:14 PM
#44:


I am a beluga whale.

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Sceptilesolar
11/30/20 5:28:17 PM
#45:


azuarc posted...
I can solo that one without too much trouble. I'll help with that and you can carry me through the fire one. =)

Can we go back to this and explain how exactly? Because I'm losing my mind. The mages have huge amounts of health, I can't combo them with Diluc for long because one of them will hit me or the arena will start nuking my health, and they like to do their super move a lot too, which is just annoying and makes me run around a bunch wasting time.

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agesboy
11/30/20 5:41:28 PM
#46:


probably venti, venti absolutely trivializes electric mages. time an E to hit them as they're about to get up from a Q and you can have extra disable time

otherwise very aggressive use of overloads to stunlock them but that's really messy and also requires you to bring your own electro unit

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azuarc
11/30/20 6:12:54 PM
#47:


I am very well-practiced at fighting Cicin Mages. Even before I opened Diluc, I was killing them with my team that couldn't air juggle her in order to farm for mats. Having two on the field is obnoxious and forces you to not just Q-hit-hit-hit-Q-hit-hit-hit-Q-hit-hit-hit-hit, and repeat, but when you fight like a hundred of them just using MC, Fischl, and Xiangling, killing one while being harried isn't nearly as scary.

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profDEADPOOL
11/30/20 7:51:38 PM
#48:


What's the rules for destroying the prisms that spawn when you've nearly killed the Hypostatis people? It seems elemental damage is needed, but Ning's normal attack isn't always damaging them for me.

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BK_Sheikah00
11/30/20 7:59:57 PM
#49:


Hit it with elemental reactions. Ideal is Cryo. Swirl and Overloaded are decent. Hydro is useless. Geo no idea

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SwiftyDC
11/30/20 8:46:53 PM
#50:


If you have Xiangling build up her Ult, drop Guoba near one prism, Ult and take out the other two.

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