Current Events > Why do people act like working 9-5 is so terrible?

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Or like 8-5 or 9-6?

when I was an undergrad there were always these kids saying man I just wasnt meant to work 9-5 we need to get rid of capitalism!!!

like why is working that specific eight hour shift so terrible?

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Because you're there

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Dont murk me

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wake up early
waste whole day
dark when going home half the year

it's just miserable. Give me 10-6

because those are the active commerce hours for most businesses, its often a 5 day a week schedule, and it forces you to pack the weekend with more shopping trips when you should be recovering from the work week?

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Politics posted...

when I was an undergrad there were always these kids saying man I just wasnt meant to work 9-5 we need to get rid of capitalism!!!

Because, as we all know, the Soviets totally had sensible work hours and all sorts of lesiure time.

before capitalism no one had to work, the rich just paid for everyone's food
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The NEET logic is that you're slaving for a corporation for little pay while executives are the ones mostly profiting. Or something like that, I dunno. I live a pretty privileged life working my 9-5 even if the executives makes 100x more than me.

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Hippocrates posted...

wake up early
waste whole day
dark when going home half the year

it's just miserable. Give me 10-6

This

Another negative point is a lot of important places like the bank or DMV or doctor's office are open during those same hours so you need to take time off work to get shit done

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Because 40 hours a week is stifling, it sucks that you have to sink so much of your life and time into a full time job. I can't imagine how people do double or more than that a week.

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Your body and mental do not get full rest for one day off.

Not full recovery.

That why 996 suck because of that many people suicides.

Look at Japan, Korea , china, and many Asian countries tell me the working condition and hour really good, it not.

It like you live only for work not work only for live.
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A lot of people are lazy and stupid and think a 12 hour minimum wage work week should be enough to set you for life.

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I'm a teacher. I work 8-4 (with only a 20 minute lunch). I'm so tired by the end of the day, I'm in a terrible mood and need a nap almost every day.

Wake up around 6pm. Then, everything is closed, pretty much. Just a few short hours until I have to go to bed to get right back up at 6:30 in the morning.

It's dark when I wake up, dark when I get home. It's not fun. Especially during COVID.

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Losing 1/3rd of your life to shit that doesnt matter just to afford the other 1/3rd that youre awake, does more need to be said?
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EffectAndCause posted...

Losing 1/3rd of your life to shit that doesnt matter just to afford the other 1/3rd that youre awake, does more need to be said?

What do you mean it doesnt matter exactly? Like you dont want society to function? What is the alternative?

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I feel like having a little shorter shifts with higher pay would be better mentally and allow you to have a life outside of work (granted, not particularly possible these days anyway). I work 2-10 five days out of the week and I just feel like I don't have any time to do anything.

It's also why becoming a manager doesn't sound appealing to me because they're expected to work basically the entire day due to them being on a fixed salary. I'd hate it.
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Politics posted...

What is the alternative?

Back to hunter-gatherer lifestyles, I guess.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Back to hunter-gatherer lifestyles, I guess.

This is my point. Wed either just live in a society where the state controlled everything or wed just live in communes. Both options sound horrible.

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Politics posted...

What do you mean it doesnt matter exactly?

Unless you absolutely love your job and get complete fulfillment out of it, youre essentially in an 8 hour coma doing mindless labor you dont care about for people you dont care about at a company you dont care about.

Naturally, the alternative here is to just do something you love, but thats not always easy to find and/or accomplish in the working world.
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Hippocrates posted...

dark when going home half the year

I definitely hate this. I wish the time changes worked in reverse to even out the daylight hours some throughout the year


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The alternative is to mooch off these wage slavers and corporations via their taxes. At least that's what the NEETs tells me.

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Aki_Sora posted...

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Yeah, I've been hearing the issue is far worse over there than most other places.
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i wouldn't take a job that forces me to work at specific times like that but that's cause i do computer science so i have the option

Politics posted...

when I was an undergrad there were always these kids saying man I just wasnt meant to work 9-5 we need to get rid of capitalism!!!

like why is working that specific eight hour shift so terrible?

they were probably complaining about the 40 hour work week, not the specific timeslot. and they are correct to criticize that shit

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What I don't understand is why so many people in the west (America and Britain anyway) gleefully suck off corporations and insist on perpetuating work hours and mentalities that exist to fuck you over and stick to tradition, over any actual benefit to both the workplace AND the employees.

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I work in the dirt, in hot ass attics during the summer where insulation fibers stick to your drenched ass skin among dust and wood shavings, in the cold when its freezing for hours, and sometimes the first thing youre tasked to do at 6 in the morning is to break concrete

Its hard to work many hours in those conditions but when you see the money sometimes yer happy.. I lucked out - I work from 6-2 and then from 2-6 doing side jobs and Im making a killing

I dont think people should be working that many hours imo - but I also wanted more money and wanted a better lifestyle so I did what I could while studying up to be a teacher in college

Just been slacking on that but eh, I got my whole life to do that while learning how to work with my hands to buy property

If you have goals that make your work worth it youll definitely be happier

They do not know how horrible a lot of other countries outside the US have it, working 9 AM to 5 PM is honestly not horrible considering places like China or any company that has suicide nets because a job is so bad people will commit suicide rather then stay there.

I work 8 am to 4 PM for my career 4 days a week and I have plenty of time for hobbies, friends, and family while doing what I enjoy as a job.

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"A dictatorship has it worse" will always be the worst fucking reasoning you can ever use to justify the current work system in much of the west.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

They do not know how horrible a lot of other countries outside the US have it, working 9 AM to 5 PM is honestly not horrible considering places like China or any company that has suicide nets because a job is so bad people will commit suicide rather then stay there.

I work 8 am to 4 PM for my career 4 days a week and I have plenty of time for hobbies, friends, and family while doing what I enjoy as a job.

You only work 4 days a week, unlike the majority of America. You have it easy, which is why you think that.

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Yes I do have it easier now, I did work a 40 hour job once and it was why I worked my ass off to land a 32 hour a week career with better pay, better off time, vacation time, benefits, and many other good things.

Trying to get a different job working 40 hours was difficult since I rarely had time to not only look, apply, and try to get an interview. It also pissed me off having so much time wasted at work however I am glad I experienced that shit so I value my good career now.

I have done a few 40 hour weeks when someone called out, was sick, or they needed help at the job. Doing so always leads to extra vacation time or days off, and sometimes a bonus. Hell the next bonus check is coming out in Jan. 1st 2021 which I may go in to work for since it is party day and there might be 30 mins of work if that.

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does op not work 9-5?

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Funkydog posted...

"A dictatorship has it worse" will always be the worst fucking reasoning you can ever use to justify the current work system in much of the west.

A great question to ask is: if you could build your ideal society, would it look anything like this one?
Because mine sure wouldn't. There's no good reason we should all be chained to working 40+ hours a week with obscenely overpriced healthcare(if you're lucky enough to have health insurance at all/can afford to utilize it) and minimal to no paid leave(of any kind).

I'm especially hot over this subject because I'm almost done with reading B****** Jobs:The Rise of Pointless Work and What to Do About It by David Graeber.

JBaLLEN66 posted...

does op not work 9-5?

8-5 but I might be moving to 9-6, I like to sleep lol

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They don't feel they have control of their lives. They feel like a slave to their schedule with how limited their time is.

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It was terrible when I was commuting 2 hours a day. When I cut it to a 30 walk (round trip) I didn't mind it at all

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ElatedVenusaur posted...

A great question to ask is: if you could build your ideal society, would it look anything like this one?

Post-scarcity would be nice.

Nothing about capitalism necessitates your working hours be from 9 to 5, lol.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Nothing about capitalism necessitates your working hours be from 9 to 5, lol.

When you let businesses run with little restrictions, it does.

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Spiritlittle posted...

When you let businesses run with little restrictions, it does.

Huh?!

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Huh?!

Governments need to regulate businesses harsher. That's why we have the top 1%.

Trickle Down Economics doesn't work and never has.

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The 8-hour work day is an archaic and outdated concept, normalized at a time when one income was plenty to support an entire family, and another member of the household was depended upon to run basic errands.

But it's not 1950 anymore and two incomes are needed just to make ends meet.

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Ryan__Leaf posted...

The 8-hour work day is an archaic and outdated concept, normalized at a time when one income was plenty to support an entire family, and another member of the household was depended upon to run basic errands.

But it's not 1950 anymore and two incomes are needed just to make ends meet.

Eh. I work my salaried 8-4 job and I'm pretty comfortable at 25 years old.

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Because most people hate their job

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Spiritlittle posted...

Eh. I work my salaried 8-4 job and I'm pretty comfortable at 25 years old.

Welp, I'll let everyone know that Spiritlittle on gamefaqs.com said everything is cool.

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Spiritlittle posted...

Eh. I work my salaried 8-4 job and I'm pretty comfortable at 25 years old.

I hear ya. My family and I are doing well especially given these times of Covid, but for many that just isn't always the case.

It's also funny when older people try to tell me they lived off of $6/hr in their 20's, completely ignoring that the value of the dollar is drastically different now, and that $6 in 1980 probably has about the same buying power as $15 in 2020.

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I would love to work 9-5 or maybe even 7-3. I've been working 5-1:30 and even though it gives me a lot in the remainder of the day, more often than not I'm taking a nap after work because after 8 years it still sucks fucking ass waking up at 4 in the morning

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I work 8-5 I'm home by 5 normally and go to sleep at 1230-1am most of the time and wake up at 630

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8/8:30-5 are kinda awkward hours. I'd rather just wake up later and work later. Instead, I just sleep less.

El Mexicano Texano posted...

I work 8-5 I'm home by 5 normally and go to sleep at 1230-1am most of the time and wake up at 630

What, do you work right next to your place? >_>

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40 hours is a lot, and I'd much much much etc rather be home.

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