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CanuckCowboy
01/09/21 12:46:43 PM
#52:


Actually ill take it a step further i bet most of these people crying about pitbulls dont even realize pitbulls is an umbrella term

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SPE
01/09/21 12:47:04 PM
#53:


CalypsoDoom posted...
I mean I've heard story after story about irresponsible pet owners allowing their dogs around small animals like rodents and birds and they will absolutely kill them if they want to.
Maybe not children, but they still can cause harm.
I was bit to the point of bleeding because of the family border collie when I was 5. they absolutely do need training to prevent aggressive outbursts

it happens. I have also read and heard of stories of ferrets eating the fingers and toes of month-old babies, rats eating the face of a toddler, a cat clawing out a twitch streamers eye, etc.

dogs are not monoliths. Some breeds are very, very dangerous (eg pitbulls), some are dangerous but less so (eg Doberman), some could go either way (eg German shepherds) and some breeds are actually pretty sweet and kind or at least physically incapable of being dangerous (eg a Maltese).

you had a very bad experience and that sucks, I am sorry, but you cant say all dogs are dangerous murderous beasts. A cat is far more likely to claw you in the face if you accidentally piss him/her off than a dog is likely to bite you, unless its one of the more dangerous breeds like a pitbull


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voldothegr8
01/09/21 12:48:27 PM
#55:


GregShmedley posted...
Lmao I swear, pit bull haters are some of the most fragile sounding people on here.

Stop projecting lol
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Tenlaar
01/09/21 12:50:17 PM
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Pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, but theyre responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982, according to research compiled by Merritt Clifton, editor of Animals 24-7, an animal-news organization that focuses on humane work and animal-cruelty prevention.

Clifton himself has been twice attacked by dogs (one pit bull), and part of his work involves logging fatal and disfiguring attacks. Clifton says that for the 32 years hes been recording, there has never been a year when pit bulls have accounted for less than half of all attacks. A CDC report on dog-bite fatalities from 1978 to 1998 confirms that pit bulls are responsible for more deaths than any other breed, but the CDC no longer collects breed-specific information.

Another report published in the April 2011 issue of Annals of Surgery found that one person is killed by a pit bull every 14 days, two people are injured by a pit bull every day, and young children are especially at risk. The report concludes that these breeds should be regulated in the same way in which other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated.

https://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/
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NOM
01/09/21 12:51:06 PM
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They sure ain't as fragile a the staunch Pitbull defense force who tend to ignore any evidence or scientific facts about their beloved dogs, lol.

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SPE
01/09/21 12:51:32 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
lmao no it doesn't. Where's all the news stories of goldens mauling people?

I know right? Where are the vicious Pomeranian tears throat of its owner, RIP mr. jones?

inb4 Pomeranians are too small, well so are cats and those claw out peoples eyes all the time

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Tenlaar
01/09/21 12:53:29 PM
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SPE posted...
well so are cats and those claw out peoples eyes all the time
Cats claw peoples eyes out "all the time?" Come on, man.
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Crazyman93
01/09/21 12:55:52 PM
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NOM posted...
Why are people calling Pitbull hate racism? I don't get it...
Because we've reached peak overuse of the word and it's starting to lose all meaning.

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BettyWhite
01/09/21 12:56:22 PM
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The only thing pits have done wrong is be so cool they attract trashy people who shouldn't be allowed to raise hamsters let alone a powerful dog.

A pit raised by a good person is just as sweet as any other dog.

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MutantJohn
01/09/21 12:57:17 PM
#64:


BettyWhite posted...
The only thing pits have done wrong is be so cool they attract trashy people who shouldn't be allowed to raise hamsters let alone a powerful dog.

A pit raised by a good person is just as sweet as any other dog.

Betty White droppin' wisdoms up in this topic.

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BeyondWalls
01/09/21 12:58:07 PM
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My cousin loved her Pit Bull for years... until it bit the legs off her cat under the kitchen table.

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viewmaster_pi
01/09/21 1:01:50 PM
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BettyWhite posted...
A pit raised by a good person is just as sweet as any other dog.
until...

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treewojima
01/09/21 1:02:48 PM
#69:


Oh yay, guess it's time for CE's monthly pitbull topic
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Tyranthraxus
01/09/21 1:08:31 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
lmao no it doesn't. Where's all the news stories of goldens mauling people?



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thronedfire2
01/09/21 1:10:02 PM
#71:


CalypsoDoom posted...
And another thing I will add is before people start up the crocodile tears because I'm not a dog person - I own birds. VERY difficult to train despite their intelligence. I myself have had great difficulty in getting some of my birds to simply not attack me for changing their food.

This being said, my birds are small and can't cause much damage at all, though it does hurt.
Am I going to go out and buy a huge ass umbrella cockatoo that can literally tear through my lip or ear with relative ease without extensive preparation and the knowledge base to train them? No.
And there are plenty of videos out there of umbrella cockatoos being sweet and snuggly, but that doesn't take away the danger they can represent. Same goes for other animals

so your problem is with bad dog owners, not with pit bulls

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ChocoboMogALT
01/09/21 1:10:38 PM
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First, I don't like dogs, I just don't like bad arguments more.
Second, if a dog is eating walls the owner needs to fix something immediately or needs to be separated frlm the dog. That's serious mistreatment and an example of "bad owner."
Third, some breeds are more aggressive. But the hate towards pit bulls does not come from place of logic. The thought behind it is the same thought racists have to defend their hatred against other races.
Fourth, so many statistics surrounding pit bulls are really just "pit bulls", a mix of dogs who are misidentified. If a dog is aggressive and bites, and looks vaguely like a pit, it's a pit and gets marked as one. And that's part of the issue, this weird dog racism.
Fifth, if you are so invested into this topic that you make creepy memes and jump to attack every time it's mentioned, that's not "acknowledging science," that's some weird personal vendetta against a dog breed.

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yutterh
01/09/21 1:11:18 PM
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CalypsoDoom posted...
Okay, I'm just going to say it - why in God's name do people want to own an animal which requires tedious amounts of training to yknow not maul small children and animals? I'm saying this not only for pit bulls but dogs in general.

Most people don't train their dogs past basic commands and "don't shit on the fucking carpet", the latter of which requires an astronomical amount of effort depending on the breed.

My family are pitbull lovers and we had pitbulls throughout the years, as well as many other dogs. We don't do any special training for them and they are all fine, they are basically like any other dog. One fought my little dog but my little dog was the instigator. Never once have they had issues with other people or dogs. They are pretty friendly. But my family is pretty friendly as well. It really just comes down to the owner. Pitbulls are technically more dangerous in that they do have a more damaging bite but that's it honestly. It's usually the little dogs that are vicious.

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Tyranthraxus
01/09/21 1:12:13 PM
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clyde_frog posted...
Im on the fence with this issue. My brother has a pitbull mix and I know he didnt go the extra mile to train him, yet hes still one of the most well behaved dogs Ive ever been around.

Everyone says this about their dog shortly before they rip out someone's throat.

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voldothegr8
01/09/21 1:12:22 PM
#76:


ChocoboMogALT posted...
Third, some breeds are more aggressive. But the hate towards pit bulls does not come from place of logic. The thought behind it is the same thought racists have to defend their hatred against other races.

Nope, the hate comes from hard stats

Tenlaar posted...

Pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, but theyre responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982, according to research compiled by Merritt Clifton, editor of Animals 24-7, an animal-news organization that focuses on humane work and animal-cruelty prevention.

Clifton himself has been twice attacked by dogs (one pit bull), and part of his work involves logging fatal and disfiguring attacks. Clifton says that for the 32 years hes been recording, there has never been a year when pit bulls have accounted for less than half of all attacks. A CDC report on dog-bite fatalities from 1978 to 1998 confirms that pit bulls are responsible for more deaths than any other breed, but the CDC no longer collects breed-specific information.

Another report published in the April 2011 issue of Annals of Surgery found that one person is killed by a pit bull every 14 days, two people are injured by a pit bull every day, and young children are especially at risk. The report concludes that these breeds should be regulated in the same way in which other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated.

https://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

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PoundGarden
01/09/21 1:13:34 PM
#77:


MutantJohn posted...
Yeah, most pit bull hate is thinly-veiled racism.

They're like any other dog, they need to be trained well since birth to show non-aggression.

No. The problem is, when a pit inevitably snaps there is virtually nothing you can do to stop it. I promise, idgaf how big or tough you are, 99% of the time you're not going to be able to stop it. I'm 6'1, 180 lbs and I couldnt stop my hillbilly pos neighbors pit (who snapped his chain and IMEDIATELY attacked my dog and I the first chance it got). Kicked it (found out later I broke 4 of its ribs), punched it, even tool a weed whacker to it. Only thing that finally got it off was thumbing its eyes, it let go and then went right back to trying to kill us.

So no, they very much are NOT "like any other dog". I'm suing the trash owners for $250,000 and it's a slam dunk case he has no excuse other than literally "I wasnt home it's not my fault he broke his chain!". Fuck you, pay me.

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Tenlaar
01/09/21 1:14:40 PM
#78:


ChocoboMogALT posted...
But the hate towards pit bulls does not come from place of logic.

A five-year review of dog-bite injuries from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, published in 2009 in the journal Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, found that almost 51 percent of the attacks were from pit bulls

And a 2011 study from the Annals of Surgery revealed that "attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs."

The authors of that 2011 study go on to say, "Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduces the U.S. mortality rates related to dog bites."

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Smashingpmkns
01/09/21 1:14:51 PM
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Dressed my pitbull like Britney Spears because they both put children in danger

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CanuckCowboy
01/09/21 1:15:28 PM
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Lmao. Pound thinks pitbulls are the incredible hulk.

Dude they're a mid sized dog. 60lbs is the top range for an adult male pits. There are countless stronger and large dogs out there.

Wtf kinda crack do some of you smoke that you believe this nonsense?

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Tyranthraxus
01/09/21 1:15:40 PM
#82:


yutterh posted...
Pitbulls are technically more dangerous in that they do have a more damaging bite

No they literally do not. They are dangerous while having the expected average bite strength for a dog with their physique. They do not have super powers. They are not dogs with wolf jaws or some stupid ass shit. They are just vicious and bred to be combat dogs.

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Socrawheeze
01/09/21 1:20:00 PM
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My brain tells me to hate pitbulls, but don't stats show they're not particularly more dangerous than other similar-sized breeds?

Well, at least I can still dislike them for looking like fuck ugly monsters lol
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Tyranthraxus
01/09/21 1:20:26 PM
#86:


GregShmedley posted...
The evidence that is usually posted in these topics are flawed statistics that don't factor the background of the dogs and their owners, the popularity of the breed, or how often the breed is misidentified.

How about you? Do you have any evidence that dog abusers prefer pit bulls? Since that's the claim you're making you should be able to back it up.

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CanuckCowboy
01/09/21 1:20:41 PM
#87:


GregShmedley posted...
Please post the actual study they are referencing. The copy they linked has been removed.

The evidence that is usually posted in these topics are flawed statistics that don't factor the background of the dogs and their owners, the popularity of the breed, or how often the breed is misidentified.

Regarding the whole racism angle comes in play because there are certain users ITT that are known to post right wing "statistics" and they are very similarly delivered. Even reading anti-pit forums, the comments are suspect. Just an observation.

Good post. Racism is also apt cause these peoples prejudices against pits is clearly based on ignorance.

Again I guarantee none of those people even know what breeds the term refers to and thats if they even realize its an umbrella term.

Misidentificarion of breed is a really good point itt.

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PoundGarden
01/09/21 1:22:29 PM
#88:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Lmao. Pound thinks pitbulls are the incredible hulk.

Dude they're a mid sized dog. 60lbs is the top range for an adult male pits. There are countless stronger and large dogs out there.

Wtf kinda crack do some of you smoke that you believe this nonsense?

Fuck off, nothing about this is funny, the fuck is wrong with you?
You clearly have no fuckkng idea what you're talking about, pitbull strength is well known. Make more excuses for shitty people owning shitty dogs. Did you not even read my post where I said I was attacked? Pretty sure that qualifies me to speak on this issue

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MutantJohn
01/09/21 1:22:53 PM
#89:


You can sue someone all you'd like but it doesn't mean you're actually gonna get a quarter mil.

Judging by the description, this dude ain't got 250k just lying around. You're probably never gonna see that money, homie.

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voldothegr8
01/09/21 1:24:34 PM
#90:


PoundGarden posted...


No. The problem is, when a pit inevitably snaps there is virtually nothing you can do to stop it. I promise, idgaf how big or tough you are, 99% of the time you're not going to be able to stop it. I'm 6'1, 180 lbs and I couldnt stop my hillbilly pos neighbors pit (who snapped his chain and IMEDIATELY attacked my dog and I the first chance it got). Kicked it (found out later I broke 4 of its ribs), punched it, even tool a weed whacker to it. Only thing that finally got it off was thumbing its eyes, it let go and then went right back to trying to kill us.

So no, they very much are NOT "like any other dog". I'm suing the trash owners for $250,000 and it's a slam dunk case he has no excuse other than literally "I wasnt home it's not my fault he broke his chain!". Fuck you, pay me.

****WARNING****Graphic pics in spoiler so people can understand what these fucking things do and why they are so hated. Doesnt look like much but it was a deep bite he crunched my bone and severed tendons, it hurts every fucking day and I can't do video games with rapid press buttons or hold my hand steady. All because some fucking hick wanted a big mean dog and couldnt be arsed to properly contain the thing.





Hfjskjs

Sorry that happened to you, must have been fucking frightening. How did you get it to stop after the eye jab, just made it inside?
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Tyranthraxus
01/09/21 1:25:12 PM
#92:


MutantJohn posted...
You can sue someone all you'd like but it doesn't mean you're actually gonna get a quarter mil.

Judging by the description, this dude ain't got 250k just lying around. You're probably never gonna see that money, homie.

You know if he can't pay up he gets to put a lien on their house.

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Taharqa_
01/09/21 1:26:25 PM
#94:


PoundGarden posted...
Fuck off, nothing about this is funny, the fuck is wrong with you?
You clearly have no fuckkng idea what you're talking about, pitbull strength is well known. Make more excuses for shitty people owning shitty dogs. Did you not even read my post where I said I was attacked? Pretty sure that qualifies me to speak on this issue

How big was the dog? It was probably some bully breed mutt, most people don't know what an actual Pit Bull looks like, including a lot of owners.

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PoundGarden
01/09/21 1:27:07 PM
#95:


GregShmedley posted...
I'm sorry you went through that. Is it possible the dog was the way it was because of the bold?

100%. Thy have 3, 2 in a cage and the one on the chain that attacked us (it's gone now). They never play with them and just leave them outside to protect their piece of shit falling down boarded up windows house (because that's indicitave of fabulous riches inside right? Fuckkng idiots).

To your point I have known perfectly sweet pits. However, a pit snapping and attacking is a much bigger deal than say a Jack Russel attacking. When it happens it's always BAD, nobody gets "nipped" by a fucking pit. They get full on attacked, and that's the problem, the monsters go all out 100%

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PoundGarden
01/09/21 1:28:17 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Sorry that happened to you, must have been fucking frightening. How did you get it to stop after the eye jab, just made it inside?

Luckily the police station is one house away and they saw it happen. It took 3 officers, a random passerby and myself to finally get it off. Officer beat the shit out of it's face and zapped it with a baton

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CanuckCowboy
01/09/21 1:28:21 PM
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I've been attacked by a German shepherd that was the meanest dog I ever knew.

Not sure how being attacked by a dog makes you more knowledgeable about dogs.

I'm sorry you had to go through that. Being attacked by a dog is terrifying.

It doesn't mean anything you're saying is correct.

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Tenlaar
01/09/21 1:28:30 PM
#98:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Again I guarantee none of those people even know what breeds the term refers to and thats if they even realize its an umbrella term.
I worked with dogs for a significant part of my life, from grooming salons to kennels to vet offices. Stop trying to act like your willfully ignoring statistical evidence puts you on some moral high ground. Hospitals are not making up reports on the severity of pit bull bites compared to others.
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PoundGarden
01/09/21 1:29:32 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
How big was the dog? It was probably some bully breed mutt, most people don't know what an actual Pit Bull looks like, including a lot of owners.

It was 100% a pitbull, zero doubt, as are the remaining two they have. Had to have been 80 lbs, my bull terrier is 60 and this thing was much larger than him

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Tyranthraxus
01/09/21 1:29:46 PM
#100:


GregShmedley posted...
Where do you see me making that claim?

Here you said:

GregShmedley posted...
The evidence that is usually posted in these topics are flawed statistics that don't factor the background of the dogs and their owners

This was in response to...

voldothegr8 posted...
Pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, but theyre responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982, according to research compiled by Merritt Clifton, editor of Animals 24-7, an animal-news organization that focuses on humane work and animal-cruelty prevention.

If that study is flawed because it doesn't account for owners backgrounds, then please show me evidence that people with problematic backgrounds are purchasing pitbulls to such a disproportionate amount to cause this statistic to be as lopsided as it is.


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CanuckCowboy
01/09/21 1:29:52 PM
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Jesus.

Some of you really have issues.

Also that statistical evidence doesn't exist the way you claim it does, is skewed by frequent misidentification, and there also exists statistics regarding how loyal and people friendly pits are so....

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