Current Events > About to play Danganronpa for the first time.

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What is this, why am I playing Shenmue 3?
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So it's the morning after I played the video game and I've had 2 free day explorations since starting the chapter, which is the same amount of free days I got in chapter 1, so somebody is dead. The only two people missing from the morning meeting are Kuzuryu and Mahiru. Seeing as I can't bring myself to believe Kuzuryu's role in the story is over, I have a feeling I'm about to scream at my television.

Edit: Maybe not, more free time.

...But it's totally happening.

Also what exactly does the pet's "hope" meter do? I realize that if its despair meter fills up it dies, but what does its hope meter filling up do?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

I think English not being my first language

Trust us when we say that is not it. Except for liars, nobody got this right the first time.

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That's good, then, I think.

Mahiru's body is stuffed inside the closet of the beach house isn't it? Don't answer that.

There's a lot more fan service in this game than the first one.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Also what exactly does the pet's "hope" meter do? I realize that if its despair meter fills up it dies, but what does its hope meter filling up do?

Hope, as well as Despair sometimes, determines what form the pet takes after it reaches adulthood. For example, two of the most important pets (because they actually give you skills) are Usami and Monokuma, which both require 9-10 Hope, with Monokuma requiring 6-9 Despair (a cool attention to detail here is that a Monokuma pet will not die after reaching 10 Despair). You should really try and prioritize raising these two pets by the way, their skills are pretty useful. Usami gives you Menacing Focus (maximum amount of Focus), and Monokuma gives you Tranquility (completely steadies your aim).
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NOOOOOOO

God damnit Danganronpa stop it ;_;

Haven't started the investigation yet.

Okay, so I'm thinking right off the bat (heh) that the body discovery announcement is interesting. It's the only time other than the third case of the first game, which involved manipulation to make it seem that was not the case, where a body discovery announcement has been played without the MC having discovered the body. It's also the first time an announcement hasn't been played as three people discover it at once. The seeming obvious answer is that Saionji and Owari saw it before Soda, him being the third. I don't really have suspicions of Saionji. Owari's injuries seem awfully suspicious, but I'mma need to confirm stuff with Nekomaru and Tsumiki before I know more. I'd be sad if it was that obvious, though.

But just... please tone down the fanservice, game.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Trust us when we say that is not it. Except for liars, nobody got this right the first time.

Hell, if you google "Meat on the bone", the first result is a Danganronpa discussion on how so many people get it wrong...

dave_is_slick posted...

Trust us when we say that is not it. Except for liars, nobody got this right the first time.

I actually did get meat on the bone because it was specifically pointed out multiple times in that chapter, even before the murder happened. Chapter 3's Panic Talk Action is the one I'd actually expect most people to get wrong.
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Kircheis posted...

I actually did get meat on the bone because it was specifically pointed out multiple times in that chapter, even before the murder happened. Chapter 3's Panic Talk Action is the one I'd actually expect most people to get wrong.

That specific phrasing? Because I don't see why it didn't accept on the meat bone. It's the same thing.

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This video game thing is weird but interesting getting evidence from it.

I will absolutely hate having to replay this part on a second playthrough, though.
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dave_is_slick posted...

That specific phrasing? Because I don't see why it didn't accept on the meat bone. It's the same thing.

I just happened to remember examining it multiple times during the chapter, and the dialog box specifically pointed out that it's a meat on the bone. I'd played enough Danganronpa at that point to figure it'd be an important detail.
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Why are characters in these kinds of games always completely incapable of retaining crucial information that happened only a short while ago? Kuzuryu had the ending prize. You know this! You saw it!

Also. I feel like the game is telling me that Ibuki is a lesbian.

Why doesn't Hajime just tell Komaeda to fuck off? You don't have to entertain him, dude. Just leave.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Also. I feel like the game is telling me that Ibuki is a lesbian.

I like to imagine this too because it would certainly fit with Ibuki's free-spirited, nonconformist nature, but after DR1's School Mode went out of its way to sink the Aoi/Sakura ship I learned not to hold my breath on Danganronpa having actual legit yuri characters. :c

On the other hand, it's also strongly implied that Nagito is gay for Hajime, but he's kind of a nutter so I don't actually know what to believe with that guy.
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Finished the investigation. Probably won't finish the trial today. I'm kind of stumped. Like, theres quite a few suspects, but nothing that springs out to me as saying "It's probably this person." The most likely culprit right now seems to be either Kuzuryu or Owari. But again that seems too easy. Game trying hard to implicate Saionji, but I'm just not seeing any bait worth biting here.
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Kircheis posted...

I like to imagine this too because it would certainly fit with Ibuki's free-spirited, nonconformist nature, but after DR1's School Mode went out of its way to sink the Aoi/Sakura ship I learned not to hold my breath on Danganronpa having actual legit yuri characters. :c

On the other hand, it's also strongly implied that Nagito is gay for Hajime, but he's kind of a nutter so I don't actually know what to believe with that guy.

There's no way that Tenko from V3 wasn't a lesbian lol.

Anywho great to see you enjoying the series TC, I'd say 2 is the hardest game in the series and V3 is somewhere in the middle so feel free to ask for help if you get stuck in case you get spoiled again, you're actually really close to a particularly infamous part in the series where everyone gets stuck.

As for the anime I watched it and I really don't think it's necessary to play V3, it basically has no bearing on that game like, at all. At most there's like a 'blink and you'll miss it' nod to the anime in one picture and that's it. But if you do end up getting attached to the characters in 2 you might want to give it a shot.

I haven't been farming and I have 41 skill points, of which I'm using 21 >_>

I wonder if Sonia is somehow involved. Her serial killer nonsense is kind of bugging me.

As for the anime I watched it and I really don't think it's necessary to play V3, it basically has no bearing on that game like, at all. At most there's like a 'blink and you'll miss it' nod to the anime in one picture and that's it. But if you do end up getting attached to the characters in 2 you might want to give it a shot.

That's good. I hope that turns out to be the case. I just am not interested in watching anime to play a video game. Or any other form of complimentary video media.

Edit: Actually, I think I'm finishing for today before starting the trial. Its very late and I don't want to end in an hour or so after just starting.

Edit: Btw, does anyone know what the track that plays in the first game during story revelations is called?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Edit: Btw, does anyone know what the track that plays in the first game during story revelations is called?

If you mean the track that plays when Kyoko tells Makoto about Mukuro, I'm pretty sure that track is called New World Order.
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That's the one, thanks.

Yes, the one that plays all the four hundred and seventeen times the game flashes back to that moment.
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Alright, let's get this trial on the road and find the murderer of my sweet waifu.

I'm not entirely sure how to relate the video game story to the case. Is it really as simple as Kuzuryu finding out one of the girls represented by the video games killed his sister and took revenge? But it surely wouldn't make sense to kill Mahiru. She would be the one of the girls who took the photos and was possibly going to expose the murderer? I have a hard time trying to identify the involved girls with a corresponding video game character, but that one seems fairly certain. Oh. Or maybe... Mahiru felt bad about learning what they did in the game and wanted to come clean and the culprit murdered her to keep her silent. I think the culprit in the game might have been... Ibuki?

But also, the window in the videogame was a red herring and Owari was pushing the window escape route in the bathhouse incredibly hard even though I have no idea how it could possibly have been utilized. I don't even see an indication of such other than her saying it could be. The Truth Bullet section says the metal bat is "assumed" to be the murder weapon. Hmmm. Maybe the bat is what caused Owari's injury which for some fucking reason Hajime never followed up on. Why didn't he ask Nekomaru about their fight? presumably so it can be a shocking revelation in the trial that they didn't have one?

In general I feel like the investigation in this case as been the most sloppy in both games so far. There's a lot of stuff Hajime should have followed up on that he never did cause he ran around as Komaeda's errant boy.
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Just noticed Teruteru's portrait cross out.

That's so rude >_>

I will say, I like how peoples' ultimate abilities play more of a role in this game than the previous. There it was basically just a minor character trait that could be expanded upon in FTEs or dictate where you were likely to find them in the school. Yasuhiro being the ultimate clairvoyant did at no point have any relevance to anything other than his douchery. Only one that really mattered was Kyoko's and I guess to some extent Togami's. Here some of them have been rather relevant, like Tsumiki's ultimate nurse title, Mahiru's ultimate photographer, Teruteru's ultimate cook title, etc. Chiaki's is hugely significant in this entire case. That's pretty nice.

Lol, game just told me to spend time with Gundham to get his personal skill.

Not gonna happen. Fuck Gundham.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Lol, game just told me to spend time with Gundham to get his personal skill.

Not gonna happen. Fuck Gundham.

If it helps, Chiaki's skill has a similar effect, and they can't be used together.

Also, the next execution is one of the best, if not the best one period so far IMO.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Yasuhiro being the ultimate clairvoyant did at no point have any relevance to anything other than his douchery.

To be fair though he actually did guess that he and Makoto would bang the same woman (in the bad ending) and that there would no more murders, which was also true. It's also shown in supplementary material that he does have legitimate visions of possible futures and that his talent is really OP, he's just too stupid to use it properly.

Also, Gundham is a good boy and I refuse to tolerate your continued slander of him! >:C
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I do not know enough about gummy bear flavours for this trial.

This case is kind of weird. I've done like 6 or 8 non-stop debates with no other game mode in-between. Can't remember any other point in either game with a section of trial with so little variety.
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Uuuuuh, what am I supposed to do in this Showdown Rebuttal? I don't have enough cuts to destroy all his statements.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Uuuuuh, what am I supposed to do in this Showdown Rebuttal? I don't have enough cuts to destroy all his statements.

I don't remember the exact part you are at, but there are times during Rebuttal Showdown where you have to wait for additional statements to appear onscreen before slashing to hit multiple statements at once. (They don't always immediately leave the screen if you ignore them.)

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That's not the case here.

Am I supposed to use my truth blade even though there's no orange weak point statements?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

That's not the case here.

Am I supposed to use my truth blade even though there's no orange weak point statements?

I think it's just a matter of making slashes do as much damage as possible, then. Slashes do more damage if you cut across the statement rather than along it (so cut vertically if the statement is displayed horizontally), and if you cut twice in one direction then once in the opposite direction, the reversed slash does double damage (e.g. up, up, down does four cuts of damage rather than three).

There is also a purchasable skill that makes the minigame easier IIRC.

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I got it with a lot of attempts at that up up down combo. Holy shit. Did the game never tell me about that or did I just forget?

Thanks for informing me of that.

Edit: I'm kind of curious about the body discovery announcement. It's never been relevant before because three people have found the body at the same time. But does the killer count as one of the three to find it?

Like say you kill a person and then leave, is that the first of tree discoverers? So if a group of two people stumble on it later will the announcement trigger?

Edit: Trial break time!

Still in the complete dark as to who it could be. Kuzuryu is starting to act suspicious again. Owari hasn't been cleared. Seems like we're about to circle round to the window as actually being the killer's escape path, so the key will be finding out how they reached it. Still haven't gotten to what all the drunk/emptied plastic bottles are about and I honestly don't know. Is some of the blood just a mixture of red soda? For some reason I'm starting to suspect Peko. Their alibi is lacking. We also have to get into the serial killer stuff, I suppose, which to me implicates Sonia because it's so dumb and irrelevant seeming. Wonder what Soda would do if it turned out to be them.
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...It's Sonia.

That's why she was wearing a wetsuit. To hide the blood.

Or I guess Peko washed it off in the ocean, but how did she get to the beach without leaving footprints?

Edit: NVM, game hates my theory.

I still think its one of them, though.

Edit: This trial took a turn for the weird.

Why is the game throwing kanji at me? Is this important or kawaii?
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I'm on the closing argument and I'm very confused. If Peko is really a justice seeking serial killer why would she try to frame someone? As far as I can tell, Saionji would have nothing to do with the video game murder, she'd just have been one of the girls who found the body.

And obviously Kuzuryu still has somehting to do with this. He got the first finisher prize. They found it in Mahiru's room, but Peko must have seen it and decided to act upon it. So did Kuzuryu send it to Peko actually? If so, how did it end up in Mahiru's room? Maybe there'll be a big reveal at the end of the chapter after the voting. Is Peko this Sato person?

There's more to the motive than is being let on.
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Chapter 2 finished. That was... a lot of unexpected stuff happening at the end. Not sure how to feel, honestly.

The trial postscript was interesting.
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Are the Monokuma and Monomi pets the only ones that give skills? Just wanna get them out of the way if so.

Saionji being creepy. Sounds fishy!
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Yes, the rest of them just give you Monocoins, a present, experience, and a trophy if you raise one of every pet. But Monokuma and Monomi are the only "important" ones.
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The hospital hallway is top tier nightmare fuel.

Nekomaru took Akane's virginity.

My man.
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Would it be gay if I admitted that I want Nekomaru to do "it" to me?
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Does Saionji ever want to hang out? I feel like I get the "Do you want to hang out with Saionji while she's acting like a petulant child?" every time I approach her during free time. I assume that's the "you can do it, but don't expect character advancements" message.

I feel like Chiaki is in danger. No real reason other than that I saw that poster in her room, which so far is the only thing in any character's rooms I've been able to interact with, and noticed that it's identical to the one in the movie theater. Seems fishy.

What the fuck, Ibuki. I need that door lock to not get murdered.

That wasn an eventful breakfast, holy shit. But let's ignore that, time for some bonding!
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Does Saionji ever want to hang out? I feel like I get the "Do you want to hang out with Saionji while she's acting like a petulant child?" every time I approach her during free time. I assume that's the "you can do it, but don't expect character advancements" message.

Yeah that's just Saionji being Saionji. She does have a reason for it, but she's just kind of a brat.
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I have enough hope fragments to buy the skill that gives 5 more cuts in the Rebuttal Showdown. On one hand I'm like "yeah, fuck that shit" but on the other I feel like I might be missing out if I just break the minigame rather than learn to play it.
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I've been hanging out a bit with Nekomaru, and I've really started to like him.

So this bullshit with Owari is fucking breaking my heart. I bet I'm gonna go visit him in the hospital and he was recovering fine, but someone has murdered him.

I'm really not understanding what's going on with Owari. She's being acting like an asshole for the last few days. I'm guessing its going to become relevant to the murder of the chapter.

Despair disease? I did not expect this.
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Owari's attitude makes a lot more sense when you read her FTEs, like it's crazy how much more I appreciate her as a character after reading them. I'm not even gonna talk about them in spoiler tags, they're that important when it comes to explaining why she is the way that she is.
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She's actually the first character I got to 3, uh... shards?

I like her a lot, yeah. I like most of the characters. Aside from Gundham I like all the characters remaining. Sonia is probably my second least favourite at the current time, though.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Aside from Gundham I like all the characters remaining.

Gundham is an animal lover who's really bad at social interactions, he's basically the most relatable character in the cast lmao. Seriously though I really like Gundham a lot, he's my second favorite male character from this game. I can see how his Dark Lord shtick might be a bit much, but he really is a good boy once you get to know him.
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Kircheis posted...

Seriously though I really like Gundham a lot, he's my second favorite male character from this game.

I agree, Gundham is one of my my favorite characters in the whole series though. But a large part of that is because of his English voice acting, which is amazing.

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I might buckle and get the digital version of Ultra Despair girls, it's fairly cheap anyway. Then move on to DR3. If not, I'll replay both this one and the first one a couple of times and hang out with people I don't like
*glares at Yasuhiro*, just to see what they're about.

So far though, aside from Komaeda and Kuzuryu for story reasons, Gundham is the only person alive I haven't hung out with once, and it's gonna stay that way for the whole game.

Edit: why is Tsumiki sleep molesting me?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

people I don't like
*glares at Yasuhiro*, just to see what they're about.

If you don't like him now, I doubt his FTEs will help much lol.

Azardea posted...

If you don't like him now, I doubt his FTEs will help much lol.

Like I said before, Yasuhiro is the one DR1 character I actually hated more after doing his FTEs. When even a guy like Makoto is sick of your shit, you know you done fucked up as a person.
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I'm sure when I go back to visit the hospital tomorrow morning everything will be just peachy and nothing bad will have happened.

...Tsumiki is gonna be dead, isn't she? It would be the logical reason why nobody would know until I arrive. If it was one of the patients she would know and have sounded the alarm.

Are hospital gowns in Japan made like kimonos? That's cool.

Edit: Well, nvm. I was as wrong as I usually is about the murders.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck.

Also, Soda did it.
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Finished investigating the, um, Titty Typhoon. Haven't been anywhere else. Here's my thoughts so far.

Obviously the suicide in the monitor was a staged production by the real killer. The reason I suspected Soda at the start is that I thought the outline of the person committing suicide in the video looked like his body, specifically the arms looked similar. But also now, the electronics required for the crime is something he'd be able to create. The reason a candle was used instead of the stage light was because the hospital conference room doesn't have stage light and that's where the fake suicide was broadcast from. I remember it had giant black curtains, so it fits. Some other details I don't really know the significance of yet, like obviously Ibuki died before Saionji and the killer is trying to hide not. Not sure why other than for the suicide fake to work. No clue what the motivation was or how the movie will play into it. It's all very sad, I liked both of these characters. Especially Saionji was starting to grow on me here later on in the game. I noticed Ibuki's face as she was put down on the stage is turned away from us and it cant be seen in the artwork. Not sure if that's significant, but I do remember they did the same with Mukuro/Junko in the first game and, well, that turned out to be significant.

Finished the investigation. Not sure I learned anything of significance from the other areas other than that Saionji likely walked in on the crime taking place and was killed for that reason and then the "imitation murder" (how the fuck was Saionji's body supposed to look anything like getting riddled with arrows?) was set up after the fact. Also I guess Soda babbled on some technological shit about the monitors which surely will become a signficant piece of evidence at the trial that will be used to prove his guilt. I still am hedging my bets on it being him, but other than the suspicious techno babble, nothing of significance has really indicated any culprit. I still have no clue why Ibuki was killed at all.

But that's it for tonight.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Finished investigating the, um, Titty Typhoon.

It's a reference to the bar in the movie From Dusk til Dawn, the Titty Twister