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UnfairRepresent
03/01/21 7:40:17 AM
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Do agree?


An American sex therapist has explained how straight men can have sex with men without it being specifically gay.

Dr Joe Kort divided the internet when he uploaded a new video to his TikTok account where he argued that it's more of a 'guy thing' than a gay experience.

According to News Corp, the bloke has a doctorate in clinical sexology, has written multiple books on sexuality and works as a psychotherapist and relationships coach. So, he's pretty well versed in the subject.

He believes it all comes down to context and what the two (or more) consenting adults want out of the situation.

"In general men have more transactional sex with one another, in general women don't," he said in his video. "Men have objectified sex where it's just about the act, it's just about getting off."

Opinion was split on the topic, with some people agreeing with the idea that sexuality is fluid and others outright rejecting the notion.

One person wrote: "Some people amaze me. The double standard too. Women 'make out' with other women and still be 100 per cent straight."

Another added: "I'm sorry but I don't believe that."

A third said: "This has been happening since the beginning of time. People need to research."

He used his own personal experiences as an example, revealing that if he never had sex again, he would still be a gay man. He also said some straight men have sex with men because they're narcissistic and love the idea that another man is into having sex with him.

"The straight man who is having sex with another man is into it because the guy is into him, it's all about him," he said.

Dr Kort also said it could happen because of voyeurism and these men enjoy the arousal from sexual acts, even if no women are around.

People in the comments section questioned that 'straight' men who have sex with other men could just be bisexual and Dr Kort didn't disagree, but said that was a different scenario.

He used his own personal experiences as an example, revealing that if he never had sex again, he would still be a gay man. He also said some straight men have sex with men because they're narcissistic and love the idea that another man is into having sex with him.

"The straight man who is having sex with another man is into it because the guy is into him, it's all about him," he said.

Dr Kort also said it could happen because of voyeurism and these men enjoy the arousal from sexual acts, even if no women are around.



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Jagr_68
03/01/21 7:43:00 AM
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mooreandrew58
03/01/21 7:44:57 AM
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Yes being gay is being attracted to men. You can have sex with men without being attracted by them. A good source of argument is prison. How many perform gay acts in prison but wont when out of prison.

Now if you are a free man and you got plenty of viable female options and you continuously fuck around with men beyond one or two times for expieremental sake then ya I'll question if you are really straight or not.

Like ive known a guy or two to get some head from a dude cause they couldnt score with any women but then there was this guy who had a gf and got head from a dude plenty of times despite acting a homophobe. Like cant even wait a day or 2 till your girl is available? Yeah I dont buy the homophobe act.

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viewmaster_pi
03/01/21 7:45:27 AM
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boys will be boys

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Lairen
03/01/21 7:47:02 AM
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So can you say racially offensive things and not be racist?

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UnfairRepresent
03/01/21 7:48:06 AM
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Lairen posted...
So can you say racially offensive things and not be racist?
....I dont think that's the same thing

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03/01/21 7:48:17 AM
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ssj3vegeta_
03/01/21 7:49:05 AM
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Lairen posted...
So can you say racially offensive things and not be racist?

Lmfao
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Solid Snake07
03/01/21 7:50:11 AM
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This line of thinking just reeks of thinly veiled homophobia tbch

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Lairen
03/01/21 7:50:28 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
....I dont think that's the same thing

Just cause you say it doesnt mean you believe it. I talk about santa plenty and dont believe him.

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Lordgold666
03/01/21 7:50:34 AM
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"Men have objectified sex where it's just about the act, it's just about getting off."

no shit

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Kloe_Rinz
03/01/21 7:51:39 AM
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having sex with the same gender makes you some form of bisexual or homosexual
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UnfairRepresent
03/01/21 7:52:18 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
"Men have objectified sex where it's just about the act, it's just about getting off."

no shit
I suppose his point is , are you gay if you masturbate?

No? Why because you're just trying to get off?

So what's the difference if its another mans hand vs your (a mans) hand if there is no feelings involved?

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mooreandrew58
03/01/21 7:52:46 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
....I dont think that's the same thing

Id argue you can. Some people just really like offensive comedy. Now its bad if you can dish it but not take it. Also id say its bad if you go around cracking these jokes in front of people you aint positive it wont offend.

Used to have a group of friends mixed black and white and we would insult the fuck out of each other with racist stereotypes. Have a laugh and keep drinking. What made it more funny is what stereotypes we insulted each other with we where guilty of.

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Lairen
03/01/21 7:54:12 AM
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So is this sex expert trying to bang dudes worried about being gay?

Sounds like it.

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DocDelicious
03/01/21 7:54:15 AM
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True.
Nothing wrong with a good brojob.

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scar the 1
03/01/21 7:54:37 AM
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Sexual identity is defined by how you feel, not what you do, so yes

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UnfairRepresent
03/01/21 8:00:42 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Sexual identity is defined by how you feel, not what you do, so yes
So for sake of argument:

A guy can never have sex with or date a woman
Have sex with dozens of other guys
Marry and live with another man for 40 years , frequently having sex

And still not be gay IYO?

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Fam_Fam
03/01/21 8:03:40 AM
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Lairen posted...
So can you say racially offensive things and not be racist?

i mean yes. you could ask/pay someone who was not racist to read a list of racist comments, then that's proof enough. they don't become racist because they said it.
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Fam_Fam
03/01/21 8:04:29 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So for sake of argument:

A guy can never have sex with or date a woman
Have sex with dozens of other guys
Marry and live with another man for 40 years , frequently having sex

And still not be gay IYO?

sure, people certainly do marry and have sex with people they aren't attracted to.
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KainWind
03/01/21 8:06:01 AM
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It took a paid expert to figure this out?

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Patty_Fleur
03/01/21 8:08:18 AM
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I want to frot with a group of guys

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AvlButtslam
03/01/21 8:08:30 AM
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@MegaTech
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
03/01/21 8:11:24 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
https://youtu.be/Zd8vzIRQLLM
This here sums it up, and in less then a minute at that.

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VTBM
03/01/21 8:18:40 AM
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Everything is fine as long as the balls don't touch.

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scar the 1
03/01/21 8:25:53 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So for sake of argument:

A guy can never have sex with or date a woman
Have sex with dozens of other guys
Marry and live with another man for 40 years , frequently having sex

And still not be gay IYO?
Tons of bi girls do the equivalent of that all the time, and they're still bi. But yes, sexual orientation is not defined by the acts you do, but rather what's inside your head.

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WashYourHands
03/01/21 8:27:41 AM
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No eye contact is key

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Jagr_68
03/01/21 8:28:14 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Tons of bi girls do the equivalent of that all the time, and they're still bi. But yes, sexual orientation is not defined by the acts you do, but rather what's inside your head.

Wait, so the whole "pretend/imagine he's a hot chick sucking my D" thing negates gay confirmation?

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scar the 1
03/01/21 8:29:53 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Wait, so the whole "pretend/imagine he's a hot chick sucking my D" thing negates gay confirmation?
wtf is gay confirmation

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Jagr_68
03/01/21 8:35:16 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
wtf is gay confirmation

You said sexual orientation is defined by what's inside your head so hypothetically, if you just want sex and think about women or you're still into women that means you're not gay?

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Ivynn
03/01/21 8:37:04 AM
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Remember, it all depends on if balls touch

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scar the 1
03/01/21 8:40:41 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
You said sexual orientation is defined by what's inside your head so hypothetically, if you just want sex and think about women or you're still into women that means you're not gay?
If you agree with the statement "You are gay", then you're gay. Otherwise you're not. Very simple.

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Jagr_68
03/01/21 8:52:31 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
If you agree with the statement "You are gay", then you're gay. Otherwise you're not. Very simple.

Damn, well alllright :D

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nemu
03/01/21 8:53:16 AM
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One can be a gay prostituite without being gay, but I cannot think of any other instances in which consensual repeated sex with men wouldnt be classified as gay.
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scar the 1
03/01/21 8:54:33 AM
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nemu posted...
One can be a gay prostituite without being gay, but I cannot think of any other instances in which consensual repeated sex with men wouldnt be classified as gay.
Your imagination is pretty poor then

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AvlButtslam
03/01/21 8:54:50 AM
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Just think of it like you're just masturbating with a human sex toy
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Pus_N_Pecans
03/01/21 8:56:17 AM
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Obviously yes. If youre doing it often, youre probably at least bi/pan though.

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Parappa09
03/01/21 8:56:22 AM
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it makes sense

i mean i can have sex with AOC and it wouldn't make me bi/hetero

although it would make me a v happy man

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Background_Guy
03/01/21 8:57:02 AM
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A tiktok sex therapist? Okay.
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nemu
03/01/21 9:01:30 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Your imagination is pretty poor then
If it is consensual sex not for the persons pleasure, then they are doing it for some benefit for themself. There are a many possible transactions that could be made, but theyd all be prostitution at the end of the day. Other than that, itd have to be some dude reverse hiding in the closet, but I cannot imagine that is a thing that has ever happened.
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UnfairRepresent
03/01/21 9:06:11 AM
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No is dominating

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scar the 1
03/01/21 9:07:05 AM
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nemu posted...
If it is consensual sex not for the persons pleasure, then they are doing it for some benefit for themself. There are a many possible transactions that could be made, but theyd all be prostitution at the end of the day. Other than that, itd have to be some dude reverse hiding in the closet, but I cannot imagine that is a thing that has ever happened.
You don't have to elaborate, I fully understand that bi people are beyond your imagination, so attempting to grasp the incredible complexity of "actions don't define your sexual orientation" is obviously not for you

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Geist des Durcheinan
03/01/21 9:07:36 AM
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Sounds pretty gay to me.

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DirkDiggles
03/01/21 9:11:47 AM
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Just remember, you have to say "No h***" first.

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nemu
03/01/21 9:27:16 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
You don't have to elaborate, I fully understand that bi people are beyond your imagination, so attempting to grasp the incredible complexity of "actions don't define your sexual orientation" is obviously not for you
That has to be the most inane leap in logic for a gotcha moment that Ive ever seen.
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philsov
03/01/21 10:01:42 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
wtf is gay confirmation


The third sacrament of the gay church. Though tbh gay baptism is my favorite.

That said, loads of dudes are willing to fuck a couch, a fleshlight, the hole in a barrel, or similar orifices of various degrees of tightness, temperature, and lubrication without being sexually attracted to the couch, fleshlight, or barrel hole.

So, logically, yeah, it's possible for dudes to bang/frot/etc and just enjoy it for the act that it is.

Who among can say with a straight* face they've had sex with a girl because she was available and you weren't necessarily attracted to her?
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scar the 1
03/01/21 10:02:18 AM
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Oh so you could think of instances where no people can have sex and still be bi! My bad

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UnfairRepresent
03/01/21 11:00:09 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
You don't have to elaborate, I fully understand that bi people are beyond your imagination
You seem to just be talking down to people rather than raising a point

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Returning_CEmen
03/01/21 11:02:48 AM
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