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Judgmenl
03/11/21 8:33:31 PM
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Do you believe the "Big Lie"?



Do you believe the "Big Lie"?

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SKARDAVNELNATE
03/11/21 8:38:17 PM
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Which one? Pretty much everything you hear about is either entirely false or exaggerated to the point of being misleading.

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Zeus
03/11/21 8:57:11 PM
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Oh, so you also just saw Biden's speech? I wouldn't so much call it a big lie, as a collection of small lies and misleading statements. Kinda garden-variety politicking, tbh.

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Mead
03/11/21 9:05:29 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Which one? Pretty much everything you hear about is either entirely false or exaggerated to the point of being misleading.

You tell us then. Whatcha got?

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Judgmenl
03/11/21 9:06:03 PM
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Zeus posted...
Oh, so you also just saw Biden's speech? I wouldn't so much call it a big lie, as a collection of small lies and misleading statements. Kinda garden-variety politicking, tbh.
Of course I saw Biden's speech.
The Impeachment Managers presented it as "The Big Lie", which is what Biden was referring to (Also a Big Lie is a common term referring to the kind of lie Trump made).
I'd assume this was basic knowledge by now.
Of course you already know this but thanks for replying.

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rexcrk
03/11/21 9:08:14 PM
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Would be kinda cool if you actually gave some context to wtf youre talking about

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Zeus
03/11/21 10:46:49 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Of course I saw Biden's speech.
The Impeachment Managers presented it as "The Big Lie", which is what Biden was referring to (Also a Big Lie is a common term referring to the kind of lie Trump made).
I'd assume this was basic knowledge by now.
Of course you already know this but thanks for replying.

As in "the Big Lie" referred to Biden's speech itself, considering the sheer number of attempts to mislead, misinform, and craft a narrative that runs in stark contrast to reality. He all but took credit for the creation of vaccines that were developed before he took office, and launched thinly-veiled dig after thinly-veiled dig at Trump for the fact that these vaccines weren't even announced until after the election (itself likely a deliberate act, given how quickly after election they were announced).

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TheNobleWoodApe
03/11/21 10:50:32 PM
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Zeus posted...
As in "the Big Lie" referred to Biden's speech itself, considering the sheer number of attempts to mislead, misinform, and craft a narrative that runs in stark contrast to reality. He all but took credit for the creation of vaccines that were developed before he took office, and launched thinly-veiled dig after thinly-veiled dig at Trump for the fact that these vaccines weren't even announced until after the election (itself likely a deliberate act, given how quickly after election they were announced).

That's crazy talk Zeus. Get with the program or be cancelled, like duh.

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zebatov
03/11/21 10:54:29 PM
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Yes.

No to flat Earth.

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CyborgSage00x0
03/11/21 10:55:21 PM
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>Makes a topic asking if you believe in a lie

Hermmm....

rexcrk posted...
Would be kinda cool if you actually gave some context to wtf youre talking about
Maybe turn on the news for once.

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BlackScythe0
03/11/21 10:59:22 PM
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If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Fortunately the US doesn't give the power Trump wanted to be able to support his lie.

And fuck you Zeus.
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OhhhJa
03/11/21 11:05:39 PM
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Absolutely. The media is a powerful tool. The past 4 years have made that clearer than ever. They can make the general public believe whatever they want them to believe
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Blighboy
03/11/21 11:08:03 PM
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Zeus posted...
As in "the Big Lie" referred to Biden's speech itself, considering the sheer number of attempts to mislead, misinform, and craft a narrative that runs in stark contrast to reality. He all but took credit for the creation of vaccines that were developed before he took office, and launched thinly-veiled dig after thinly-veiled dig at Trump for the fact that these vaccines weren't even announced until after the election (itself likely a deliberate act, given how quickly after election they were announced).
Imagine being this much of a fucking clown

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1369794867958800384

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Zeus
03/11/21 11:24:40 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Fortunately the US doesn't give the power Trump wanted to be able to support his lie.

And fuck you Zeus.

...the lie there is the repeated false claim that Trump masterminded a riot, which follows numerous lies about Trump and belies a pattern began prior to Trump taking office when elected, far-left Democrats were rather undemocratically suggesting that the electoral college reverse the election.

OhhhJa posted...
Absolutely. The media is a powerful tool. The past 4 years have made that clearer than ever. They can make the general public believe whatever they want them to believe

This so hard.

Also lol @ bliarboy posting a fictitious document.

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PunishedOni
03/11/21 11:27:30 PM
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are you asking if im antisemitic

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adjl
03/11/21 11:30:11 PM
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Zeus posted...
...the lie there is the repeated false claim that Trump masterminded a riot

Motivated =/= masterminded. It's a very obvious truth that he motivated it: Had he not spun the "stolen election" myth, there would have been no riot over the election being stolen. People keep claiming that because it's true. Suggesting that he masterminded it is an entirely different claim, one which very few people are actually making (largely because he lacks the faculties needed to mastermind a grilled cheese sandwich, let alone an insurrection).

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Blighboy
03/11/21 11:39:00 PM
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Zeus posted...
Also lol @ bliarboy posting a fictitious document.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-beautiful-covid-19-vaccine/

lol dude your lies are just so fucking weak

No effort behind them

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helIy
03/12/21 2:03:41 AM
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Zeus posted...
Also lol @ bliarboy posting a fictitious document.
yeah, it's not fictitious

he's really trying to take credit for vaccines that were created in other countries.

again.

for the third time.

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Nightwish
03/12/21 3:29:30 AM
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helIy posted...
yeah, it's not fictitious

he's really trying to take credit for vaccines that were created in other countries.

again.

for the third time.
Hey look at that, a trumper claiming something's fake without doing any fact checking, color me shocked.

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BlackScythe0
03/12/21 4:42:15 PM
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Blighboy posted...
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-beautiful-covid-19-vaccine/

lol dude your lies are just so fucking weak

No effort behind them
Holy shit that was real? LOL
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Zeus
03/12/21 7:52:27 PM
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adjl posted...
Motivated =/= masterminded. It's a very obvious truth that he motivated it: Had he not spun the "stolen election" myth, there would have been no riot over the election being stolen. People keep claiming that because it's true. Suggesting that he masterminded it is an entirely different claim, one which very few people are actually making (largely because he lacks the faculties needed to mastermind a grilled cheese sandwich, let alone an insurrection).

https://i.imgur.com/rXkuZ9m.mp4

Blighboy posted...
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-beautiful-covid-19-vaccine/

lol dude your lies are just so fucking weak

No effort behind them

>Gets called out on obviously fake-looking document
>Posts source that doesn't actually show a citation for the image, which was the whole bone of contention

Keep on b-lying.

helIy posted...
he's really trying to take credit for vaccines that were created in other countries.

Helly's really trying to outright lie about a quote that's right there? I questioned the veracity given the glaringly phony-looking document, but you just flat-out made shit up unrelated to the phony-looking document.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Holy shit that was real? LOL

The document might not be. Again, there's no citation for it. And honestly, the citation for the quote is a claim that Snopes talked to Trump's press secretary.

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Blighboy
03/12/21 7:55:27 PM
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Zeus posted...
given the glaringly phony-looking document,
It looks exactly like his other press statements dude.

It doesn't even matter if it's real because Trump repeatedly tried to take personal credit for the vaccines before he left office. Your claim that Biden is doing the same is pathetic and something youve provided zero support for.

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BlackScythe0
03/12/21 8:46:30 PM
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I hurt Zeus's feelings so he got me modded while he tells a boat load of lies.
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adjl
03/13/21 12:25:43 AM
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Zeus posted...
https://i.imgur.com/rXkuZ9m.mp4

Do you believe there would have been a riot at the Capitol on January 6th if Trump had not spent the last five years trying to convince everyone that the election system was rigged against him and that any apparent loss he suffered was illegitimate?

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Mead
03/13/21 12:36:25 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I hurt Zeus's feelings so he got me modded while he tells a boat load of lies.

get him modded back most of his posts are dumb offensive shit

theres a reason he has like sixty alts

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TheNobleWoodApe
03/13/21 1:10:22 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I hurt Zeus's feelings so he got me modded while he tells a boat load of lies.

That's a lot of projection for someone that marks every post they disagree with.

Just sayin'.

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Zareth
03/13/21 2:46:24 AM
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Rioters: We went to the Capitol because Trump told us to!

Zeus: There is no evidence that Trump incited the riot, stop literally grasping at straws

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TheNobleWoodApe
03/13/21 2:51:39 AM
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Rioters: Let's burn down a police station with people inside.

Kamala Harris: let's hold a fundraiser for those brave patriots!

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Zareth
03/13/21 2:55:12 AM
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Your comparison might work if there were a thousand peaceful protests going on across the country on January 6th in addition to the Capitol riot, but there weren't, so better luck next time. D+ see me after class.

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ReturnOfFa
03/13/21 3:03:38 AM
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I assumed that "The Big Lie" was this "The Big Lie".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

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TheNobleWoodApe
03/13/21 3:16:29 AM
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Zareth posted...
Your comparison might work if there were a thousand peaceful protests going on across the country on January 6th in addition to the Capitol riot, but there weren't, so better luck next time. D+ see me after class.

You're still ignoring a blok of literal succesionists taking over a portion of an american city for weeks and trying to immolate civilians vs a few dozen people that were literally let into the Capitol who left a few hours later.

See me after class, indeed. Lol.

An "insurrection" vs a literal succession.



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OhhhJa
03/13/21 7:54:12 AM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
That's a lot of projection for someone that marks every post they disagree with.

Just sayin'.
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Unbridled9
03/13/21 9:05:03 AM
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What is the big lie? Is it that 'I can't believe it's not Butter!' really isn't butter?

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kind9
03/13/21 9:16:36 AM
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The only recent "big lie" I'm aware of is Biden stealing the election, and of course I don't fucking believe that. I would require evidence first, and there is no evidence that that happened. But there is plenty of evidence directly from Trump's mouth that he incited a riot, so that can't be what this topic is about.

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helIy
03/13/21 9:27:54 AM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
You're still ignoring a blok of literal succesionists taking over a portion of an american city for weeks and trying to immolate civilians vs a few dozen people that were literally let into the Capitol who left a few hours later.

See me after class, indeed. Lol.

An "insurrection" vs a literal succession.


which event had people die

this is for extra credit

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helIy
03/13/21 9:33:13 AM
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Zeus posted...
Helly's really trying to outright lie about a quote that's right there? I questioned the veracity given the glaringly phony-looking document, but you just flat-out made shit up unrelated to the phony-looking document.
what are you even talking about

that document is 100% real.

not only that, but trump has claimed he was responsible for vaccines several times

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-coronavirus-vaccine-fact-check-20201113

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-coronavirus-vaccine-five-years-if-he-werent-president-2020-12

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/12/01/trump-takes-credit-for-vaccine-created-by-others-including-immigrants/?sh=12205bcf374c

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/03/10/trump-hopes-everyone-remembers-him-when-they-get-their-coronavirus-vaccines/


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TheNobleWoodApe
03/13/21 9:44:03 AM
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helIy posted...
which event had people die

this is for extra credit

There were deaths in both events. You're no teacher.

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helIy
03/13/21 9:47:26 AM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
There were deaths in both events. You're no teacher.
in that fire?

no.

no there wasn't.

you don't get extra credit.

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Judgmenl
03/13/21 10:07:31 AM
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It's pretty crazy how low-information most PotDers are not to know about The Big Lie.

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kind9
03/13/21 10:08:46 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
It's pretty crazy how low-information most PotDers are not to know about The Big Lie.
Why don't you information us then?

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Arcturusisnow
03/13/21 10:10:34 AM
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Zeus posted...
...the lie there is the repeated false claim that Trump masterminded a riot, which follows numerous lies about Trump and belies a pattern began prior to Trump taking office when elected, far-left Democrats were rather undemocratically suggesting that the electoral college reverse the election.

This so hard.

Also lol @ bliarboy posting a fictitious document.
Well, no, Trump is too unintelligent to mastermind a riot. He did heavily encourage it though and told his followers to "fight". It was extremely obvious even then how they would take that.
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Arcturusisnow
03/13/21 10:14:13 AM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Rioters: Let's burn down a police station with people inside.

Kamala Harris: let's hold a fundraiser for those brave patriots!
It's kinda obvious she was referring to the peaceful protesters and not the supid mofos that were taking advantage of the situation.
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TheNobleWoodApe
03/13/21 10:31:06 AM
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helIy posted...
in that fire?

no.

In the prolonged occupation of an american city?

Most certainly.

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Mead
03/13/21 10:57:02 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
It's pretty crazy how low-information most PotDers are not to know about The Big Lie.

its just that trump won the election as far as I know

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OhhhJa
03/13/21 11:26:36 AM
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helIy posted...
in that fire?

no.

no there wasn't.

you don't get extra credit.
The only person murdered at the capitol riot was a trump supporter by an unnamed capitol security guy
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Phantom_Nook
03/13/21 1:21:51 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
The only person murdered at the capitol riot was a trump supporter by an unnamed capitol security guy
the word "murder" implies that killing the terrorist wasn't justified.

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ReturnOfFa
03/13/21 1:27:14 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
It's pretty crazy how low-information most PotDers are not to know about The Big Lie.
Fucking explain it then, the terminology can apply to a huge variety of events.

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Blighboy
03/13/21 1:28:13 PM
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The big lay is when I nailed your mum lol

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ReturnOfFa
03/13/21 1:29:50 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
The only person murdered at the capitol riot was a trump supporter by an unnamed capitol security guy
it's incredibly sad she is dead, and I hate to be the ass to say

slamming against the main door of the #1 Federal building in the country until it busts open

while a gun is visibly trained on the entrance

is really fucking stupid and you should expect to be shot. like, in America, you might get shot for doing this kind of shit at at liquor store.

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BlackScythe0
03/13/21 1:30:56 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Fucking explain it then, the terminology can apply to a huge variety of events.
Its just going to be some shit post no one could possibly guess on the level of "pineapple on pizza is good" when in reality there is only a single thing referred to as the "big lie" in popular culture today.
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