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The_Korey posted...

Are you able to change/equip it's arm on the fly, or do I have to dock to swap between grapples n drills n whatnot?

You can do it on the fly.

So Im playing on the PS4 and I have the Cyclops (complete blueprint anyway) and Ive not even been to the Aurora yet. It reminds me just how different everyones play through can be. I can build a cyclops yet I cant make a laser cutter because these stupid shale outcroppings wont drop diamonds.

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Got my diamonds and lithium from the mountain island.

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Subnautica is one of my favorite games of all time, but it does have some issues. Resource management is more cumbersome than it needs to be due to the limitations of storage lockers and having to memorize where you stashed all your shit. Far too much time is spent messing with menus, which is really a shame considering how beautiful the game is.

Subnautica would really benefit from some streamlining features. For example, being able to link fabricators to storage lockers would help immensely.

I'm hopeful that Below Zero addresses some of these issues (I'm going into it blind, so no spoilers).

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Agreed about the storage. Would be nice if there was a master storage system.

I dont mind having to make additional lockers per se, but wish they were linked together

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First impressions of the cyclops-

hard af to navigate lol

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lww99 posted...

First impressions of the cyclops-

hard af to navigate lol

It takes some getting used to.

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i increased its speed, and it instantly overheated?

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lww99 posted...

i increased its speed, and it instantly overheated?

You only have to worry about starting fires. Use fast mode for limited intervals and you'll be alright.

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The_Korey posted...

Finally got that Cyclops. Still gotta get the depth mod to take it to where I wanna build a second base.

Also wanna get the Prawn before going past 900m. Are you able to change/equip it's arm on the fly, or do I have to dock to swap between grapples n drills n whatnot?

Yeah you can swap them without docking at a moon pool. You just gotta get out and access the upgrade modules.

I definitely agree on how annoying storage management can be. Luckily pc version has a mod where fabricators will pull from nearby storage lockers.

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Oh man I never even considered using Mods.

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PS4 life D:

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This topic has convinced me I should play this again. Thoroughly enjoyed the first time, it's been long enough now it'll be *almost* like new again

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powerman1426 posted...

This topic has convinced me I should play this again. Thoroughly enjoyed the first time, it's been long enough now it'll be *almost* like new again

Are you playing the PC version?

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Nah, had the ps4 version. It liked to crash but I always went right back to it

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My only real problem with the PS4 version is the loading screen. Holy crap is it bad. I thought loading on PC was bad. Youve got time to go eat lunch with the PS4.

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BeyondWalls posted...

My only real problem with the PS4 version is the loading screen. Holy crap is it bad. I thought loading on PC was bad. Youve got time to go eat lunch with the PS4.

It just adds to the danger. When did I last save

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powerman1426 posted...

It just adds to the danger. When did I last save

Lol it does. I lost my SeaMoth out toward to craters edge because I died and I was like Im not swimming all the way out there. Ill just restart. 10 minutes of loading screen later, I vowed never to die again and be more careful.

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Oh fuck OH FUCK. Took Prawn to check out the lava zone for the first time. Forgot to bring a beacon to leave near the entrance. Some kyanite and scanned lifeforms later and I realize I'm fucking lost. Lost of aimless wandering and chasing holes above me that always turn out to be ceiling not loaded yet, and the I hear what sounds like an eruption. And again. And again. "Am I stepping on damaging ground or something? My health doesn't seem to-OH FUCK!" Sea Dragon. Of kourse, Sea Dragon. Was not supposed to go far enough in to meet him, but that's how lost I got. Welp. Might as well go down fighting. Lost a lotta heath scanning it, then grappling hooked it's arm and spent the next 5 minutes being dragged around rodeo style while tryna shove a drill up it's ass. And it actually worked. Now I've got even more incentive to survive, but I'm even more lost from being dragged around. I get out to change powercells AND A FUCKING SECOND ONE IS ATTACKING! I do NOT have any food/water to go for another round of this shit. Some grappling and a lucky rock formation later, and it's gone. "Fuck it" Youtube'd someone reaching the entrance and did my best to follow my kompass between North and North West. Fucking Warpers got a few hits off me, but I make it back to recognisable areas. Still gotta race to get back to base (practically Safe Shallows) before dying of thirst. Made with 8 points of heath left and water in the kritical. All for 25 Kyanite.

tl;dr Do Sea Dragons respawn?

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Leviathans do not respawn, except for the void. Honestly if you were that far down maybe you should have just went for it and progressed the story. There is an easy way out if you progress the story to its final moments.

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BeyondWalls posted...

Leviathans do not respawn, except for the void.

Don' Reapers respawn too every time you reload the game? Dunno if that description was for PC, konsol, or both, but there's one near the ship I swear I've killed before.

Honestly if you were that far down maybe you should have just went for it and progressed the story. There is an easy way out if you progress the story to its final moments.

Interesting. Ah well. I've got more upgrades now and the Sub's here being charged by the heat, so I'm in a much better position to get things done, than before. Also piloting this big thing while seeing so little is not for me. Since there's no solar charging like the moth, Cyclops is staying in the lava zone.

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RedWhiteBlue posted...

Apparently the way the game loads areas on console (maybe just PS4?) is that leviathans can respawn. On pc it was confirmed by a dev they should not ever respawn.

Oh shit. I didnt know that. Leviathans respawn on console. Huh.

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I'm having a lot more fun with this game than I was expecting.

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The_Korey posted...

Also piloting this big thing while seeing so little is not for me.

That was my initial impression too, but the cameras actually give a good field of view once you get used to them.

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When I get the cyclops this strafing mod would be very useful based on past playthroughs.
https://www.nexusmods.com/subnautica/mods/155

dock to swap. cyclops is the prawn taxi.

IMO, the way to 'see' using the cyclops is get that goddamn thermal charger, and use the sonar ping continuously. the floodlights are worthless, the cameras only useful in shallowish water as a result, but the sonar is a full reveal of everything.

btw, not really discussed here much but the scanner room has a special mod that goes on YOU, that adds the things it scanned to your HUD so you can beeline right to them in the water. you pick one thing it found and it shows all within like 500m. super, super useful for finding rubies, silver, and diamonds.

this alone is why i put one in the jellyshroom cave. a refuel point by the cove tree is nice but the lost river isn't exactly a place you have to look very hard for the materials you need, they're all just there in plain sight.

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Sackgurl posted...

this alone is why i put one in the jellyshroom cave as a seamoth refuel and scanner

Heres a difference I noticed on PS4. My scanner room in the Shallows is scanning and highlighting items in the Jellyshroom Cave. That never happened on PC. I build my base in the same spot every time. Whats more, my PS4 scanner range isnt even upgraded and its still scanning the cave, but my fully upgraded PC scanner room isnt.

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that makes no sense to me either, if i could scan the jellyshroom cave from the shallows geyser i totally would.

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Just upgraded my Seamoth depth module to MK3. So excited.

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Does hull reinforcement protect against hostile fauna, or just collision with terrain? I looked it up but some people say the former, and others the latter.

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Hostile fauna actually ignores your base, you can have something right in the middle of the Dunes and the reapers will nicely wait for you to get out before attacking.


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I was asking about hull reinforcement for the Semoth/Prawn Suit.

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Lol my bad just noticed. It gives more defense for collisions only. Useful in the seamoth since you take a lot of damage from little fish collisions

Pretty much a wasted slot as far as the Prawn suit is concerned

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Getting the depth upgrades feels so rewarding until you remember that means you actually have to use it and go into deeper and darker waters.
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Game crashed on me for the first time ever. Right after I made my first bioreactor. Damn!

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MC_BatCommander posted...

Lol my bad just noticed. It gives more defense for collisions only. Useful in the seamoth since you take a lot of damage from little fish collisions

Pretty much a wasted slot as far as the Prawn suit is concerned

This. 100% useless in the Prawn suit. It does not protect against the Fauna.

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You know what Im trying to decide, if you have the Prawn Suit sufficiently upgraded then can you just finish the game? I mean, no cyclops, no bases. You just drop all the way down and go for it. You load up your inventory with food and water and just go. As far as I can see, the only thing holding you back would be no fabricator. But you could solve that by having your surface base strategically placed.

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I still gotta get my damn prawn. Cyclops feels pointless without it

time to farm lol

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mustachedmystic posted...

Game crashed on me for the first time ever. Right after I made my first bioreactor. Damn!

hopefully you had a somewhat recent save!

thankfully crashes dont happen often. Maybe 5 in my 30 hours of gameplay

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lww99 posted...

hopefully you had a somewhat recent save!

thankfully crashes dont happen often. Maybe 5 in my 30 hours of gameplay

Unfortunately it crashed again last night right as I was getting ready to quit.

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Damn :(

my base just flooded for the first time, that was fun

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BeyondWalls posted...

You know what Im trying to decide, if you have the Prawn Suit sufficiently upgraded then can you just finish the game? I mean, no cyclops, no bases. You just drop all the way down and go for it. You load up your inventory with food and water and just go. As far as I can see, the only thing holding you back would be no fabricator. But you could solve that by having your surface base strategically placed.

Just realized you cant do this due to depth modules. You need to grab kanite and go back up to a fabricator and then go back down.

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I think you theoretically could beat the game without any vehicles or bases at all. There's someone on the subreddit who was getting to crazy depths with pipes, but I forget if he finished.
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I remember when I was first starting out I used pipes to get to the jellyshroom caves. Its much more stressful that way.
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Just made my first PRAWN suit. Named it Bull Shannon, after the bailiff on Night Court.

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unlimited powerrrr!

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*looks at PRAWN suit modules*
I don't think I've ever come across nickel ore, or kyanite.

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mustachedmystic posted...

*looks at PRAWN suit modules*
I don't think I've ever come across nickel ore, or kyanite.

You must go deeper!

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Dont forget to manually save. This caught me out ages ago and I lost 6 hours of progress and never went back.

Also I remember not realising fibremesh could be got from the vines and putting loads of time in without some basic items because of it.

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Nickle is pretty deep and doesn't stand out much. Kyanite is the deepest, but easily stands out.I haven't found any that didn't require the Prawn drill.

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