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cuttin_in_farm 04/10/21 2:54:44 AM #1:	I love this character. I absolutely despise how the fanbase views him. So many people immediately hated him JUST because he wasnt Steve. Completely proving his character arc right. He finally got a chance to live up to his idealistic goal to help people and be like his hero. He tries to go after a revolutionary who is hoarding super soldier serum. He immediately tries to team up with Sam and Bucky. They blow him off despite John saving them on the trucks. Bucky legit scoffs at Battlestars name alone. John gets Bucky out of jail. Sam and Bucky disrespect him AGAIN by declining in a douchey way. John, working with the US, brings up a valid argument that working with free agents would be beneficial since they can work different angles. When declined, he warns that they can get in the way of what hes doing. Lo and behold, they do since he wanted to also interrogate Zemo, but he was already busted out. John is forced to go behind the governments back to track down Sam and Bucky. Carli bombs a building and kills people, officially a terrorists. John REASONABLY is pissed the two heroes who refused to help him are working with a high profile criminal and are talking about reasoning with aforementioned terrorists. John, who has been getting spat at and scoffed at constantly despite trying his hardest to be a good Captain America, is worried about this plan that literally only works because its Disney. He intervenes because he has to prove his was right to inherit the shield (a human mistake), and then is clowned by Wakanda. He still doesnt just inject the serum and has to be convinced by his best friend accidentally. Battlestar is killed by the terrorist trying to save his life. He reasonably gets pissed and kills another associate of the terrorist in anger. Fucking Tony was more than willing to kill Bucky. Falcon killed lord knows how many people blowing up helicopters in episode 1. But John is such a terrible Caltain America. This character is great. I was worried theyd make him a cartoon egomaniac. But hes legit a normal dude thats being tainted by the military and the US being irresponsible. WandaVisions Ralph WISHES he was John. Lets hope they dont fuck up the end for his character. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:952668268] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>I love this character. I absolutely despise how the fanbase views him. So many people immediately hated him JUST because he wasnt Steve. Completely proving his character arc right. He finally got a chance to live up to his idealistic goal to help people and be like his hero. He tries to go after a revolutionary who is hoarding super soldier serum. He immediately tries to team up with Sam and Bucky. They blow him off despite John saving them on the trucks. Bucky legit scoffs at Battlestars name alone. John gets Bucky out of jail. Sam and Bucky disrespect him AGAIN by declining in a douchey way. John, working with the US, brings up a valid argument that working with free agents would be beneficial since they can work different angles. When declined, he warns that they can get in the way of what hes doing. Lo and behold, they do since he wanted to also interrogate Zemo, but he was already busted out. John is forced to go behind the governments back to track down Sam and Bucky. Carli bombs a building and kills people, officially a terrorists. John REASONABLY is pissed the two heroes who refused to help him are working with a high profile criminal and are talking about reasoning with aforementioned terrorists. John, who has been getting spat at and scoffed at constantly despite trying his hardest to be a good Captain America, is worried about this plan that literally only works because its Disney. He intervenes because he has to prove his was right to inherit the shield (a human mistake), and then is clowned by Wakanda. He still doesnt just inject the serum and has to be convinced by his best friend accidentally. Battlestar is killed by the terrorist trying to save his life. He reasonably gets pissed and kills another associate of the terrorist in anger. Fucking Tony was more than willing to kill Bucky. Falcon killed lord knows how many people blowing up helicopters in episode 1. But John is such a terrible Caltain America. This character is great. I was worried theyd make him a cartoon egomaniac. But hes legit a normal dude thats being tainted by the military and the US being irresponsible. WandaVisions Ralph WISHES he was John. Lets hope they dont fuck up the end for his character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 04/10/21 2:57:18 AM #2:	Episode 3 --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:952668304] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Episode 3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 04/10/21 2:58:15 AM #3:	idk if I'd say best, but I like idealistic characters who think they're being heroic/want to be heroic, but are too rigid in their ways, and end up being the villain/antagonist, and I feel like the actor is doing a good job of that. hopefully after this season is over, he'll show up in other installments of the MCU, whether they're movies or TV series. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:952668318] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>idk if I'd say best, but I like idealistic characters who think they're being heroic/want to be heroic, but are too rigid in their ways, and end up being the villain/antagonist, and I feel like the actor is doing a good job of that. hopefully after this season is over, he'll show up in other installments of the MCU, whether they're movies or TV series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 04/10/21 2:59:12 AM #4:	He's a hotheaded asshole and a murderer. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:952668328] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>He's a hotheaded asshole and a murderer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/10/21 1:53:58 PM #5:	Bump. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:952680248] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Bump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 04/10/21 11:20:22 PM #6:	Is carli supposed to be sympathetic to the audience? Sam sounds incredibly nave. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:952699150] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Is carli supposed to be sympathetic to the audience? Sam sounds incredibly nave. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 04/10/21 11:25:53 PM #7:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Caltain America. --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:952699331] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>Caltain America.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 04/10/21 11:30:43 PM #8:	Sounds like a character who is by all accounts a worthy successor, but the writers of the show have deliberately designated as a character to be hated, to make it more satisfying to the audience when Falcon and Bucky take him down. Though I say that without watching the show. <cite>Esrac posted [p:952699478] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a character who is by all accounts a worthy successor, but the writers of the show have deliberately designated as a character to be hated, to make it more satisfying to the audience when Falcon and Bucky take him down. Though I say that without watching the show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 04/10/21 11:31:37 PM #9:	Esrac posted... Sounds like a character who is by all accounts a worthy successor, but the writers of the show have deliberately designated as a character to be hated, to make it more satisfying to the audience when Falcon and Bucky take him down. Though I say that without watching the show. I like the show but he feels like a less interesting homelander --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:952699506] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like a character who is by all accounts a worthy successor, but the writers of the show have deliberately designated as a character to be hated, to make it more satisfying to the audience when Falcon and Bucky take him down. Though I say that without watching the show.</quote> I like the show but he feels like a less interesting homelander </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 04/10/21 11:39:26 PM #10:	My prediction is that Sam and Bucky have to take Captain Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs in for killing that guy in cold blood, Sam gets the shield, and Johnny Boy spends some time in the same lockup they put real Cap in before rebooting him undercover as U.S. Agent. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:952699769] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>My prediction is that Sam and Bucky have to take Captain Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs in for killing that guy in cold blood, Sam gets the shield, and Johnny Boy spends some time in the same lockup they put real Cap in before rebooting him undercover as U.S. Agent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 04/10/21 11:39:32 PM #11:	He's a really interesting character and Wyatt Russell is doing a fantastic job. I hope they keep him around in some capacity after this series is over. --- 100% garbage waste of human skin <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:952699772] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>He's a really interesting character and Wyatt Russell is doing a fantastic job. I hope they keep him around in some capacity after this series is over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/10/21 11:41:47 PM #12:	Captain America killed a hell of a lot of people. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:952699852] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Captain America killed a hell of a lot of people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/10/21 11:50:27 PM #13:	meralonne posted... My prediction is that Sam and Bucky have to take Captain Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs in for killing that guy in cold blood, It wasnt cold blood. The dude he killed is a confirmed terrorist, accomplice, and attempted assisted murder of John. Seeing as he was a super soldier, no one should be trying the he was unarmed! shit. Bucky and Sam also busted out Zemo. So they have done much worse than Cap going behind his governments back. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:952700115] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>My prediction is that Sam and Bucky have to take Captain Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs in for killing that guy in cold blood,</quote> It wasnt cold blood. The dude he killed is a confirmed terrorist, accomplice, and attempted assisted murder of John. Seeing as he was a super soldier, no one should be trying the he was unarmed! shit. Bucky and Sam also busted out Zemo. So they have done much worse than Cap going behind his governments back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 04/10/21 11:57:07 PM #14:	cuttin_in_farm posted... It wasnt cold blood. The dude he killed is a confirmed terrorist, accomplice, and attempted assisted murder of John. Seeing as he was a super soldier, no one should be trying the he was unarmed! shit. Bucky and Sam also busted out Zemo. So they have done much worse than Cap going behind his governments back. Yikes! You're defending a guy murdering someone who was running away and was unarmed just for revenge. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:952700302] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>It wasnt cold blood. The dude he killed is a confirmed terrorist, accomplice, and attempted assisted murder of John. Seeing as he was a super soldier, no one should be trying the he was unarmed! shit. Bucky and Sam also busted out Zemo. So they have done much worse than Cap going behind his governments back.</quote>Yikes! You're defending a guy murdering someone who was running away and was unarmed just for revenge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 04/10/21 11:59:03 PM #15:	cuttin_in_farm posted... It wasnt cold blood. The dude he killed is a confirmed terrorist, accomplice, and attempted assisted murder of John. ...who was lying on the ground helpless and surrendering to not-Cap before getting his chest cavity rearranged. I get what youre going for ITT, but theres no way youre going to make Walker the good guy here. Its okay. I think Wyatt Russell is doing an excellent job with the character. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:952700356] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>It wasnt cold blood. The dude he killed is a confirmed terrorist, accomplice, and attempted assisted murder of John. </quote> ...who was lying on the ground helpless and surrendering to not-Cap before getting his chest cavity rearranged. I get what youre going for ITT, but theres no way youre going to make Walker the good guy here. Its okay. I think Wyatt Russell is doing an excellent job with the character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 04/11/21 12:01:40 AM #16:	He's definitely misunderstood, but Episode 4 was to demonstrate that he went off the deep end/is nothing like Steve. There's no conceivable way you could paint him as a pure good guy after he murdered someone helpless and begging for their life, regardless of their affiliation. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:952700424] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>He's definitely misunderstood, but Episode 4 was to demonstrate that he went off the deep end/is nothing like Steve. There's no conceivable way you could paint him as a pure good guy after he murdered someone helpless and begging for their life, regardless of their affiliation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 04/11/21 12:05:46 AM #17:	cuttin_in_farm posted... So many people immediately hated him JUST because he wasnt Steve isn't this exactly the point of the character? so it means Marvel did a perfect casting. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:952700523] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>So many people immediately hated him JUST because he wasnt Steve</quote> isn't this exactly the point of the character? so it means Marvel did a perfect casting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vermander 04/11/21 12:14:01 AM #18:	I4NRulez posted... I like the show but he feels like a less interesting homelander I said the same thing to my girlfriend while we watching it. I was like Its like Homelander except without the character depth. --- Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0807-8653-6885 "Blue has the most anti-oxygens." <cite>Vermander posted [p:952700730] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>I4NRulez posted...</cite> <quote> I like the show but he feels like a less interesting homelander </quote> I said the same thing to my girlfriend while we watching it. I was like Its like Homelander except without the character depth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 04/11/21 12:20:01 AM #19:	Sorry but I need to say it. 3 medals of honor? 3? 3?! Only 3,400 roughly have been awarded in the history of the US miliary, and only 7 since Vietnam. That's a far, far reach that he has 3 of those 7. Only one man in military history has earned 2, and it was in the 1910s. Idk why this bugs me so much, but the MOH is basically the same ratio as getting struck by lightning when it comes to quantity compared to soldier. I find it way far fetched, especially with how much of a POS he is. I love the show though, don't get me wrong. He looks like a douche in the Cap uniform and I hate his guts. That's a big positive toward his acting honestly. --- Above us lay the burdens, Below us lay the truths. We're somewhere in the middle, and we're all discontent too. Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:952700889] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sorry but I need to say it. 3 medals of honor? 3? 3?! Only 3,400 roughly have been awarded in the history of the US miliary, and only 7 since Vietnam. That's a far, far reach that he has 3 of those 7. Only one man in military history has earned 2, and it was in the 1910s. Idk why this bugs me so much, but the MOH is basically the same ratio as getting struck by lightning when it comes to quantity compared to soldier. I find it way far fetched, especially with how much of a POS he is. I love the show though, don't get me wrong. He looks like a douche in the Cap uniform and I hate his guts. That's a big positive toward his acting honestly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BlueMonk 04/11/21 12:22:57 AM #20:	if steve was everything patriots want to believe america is he is what the rest of the world sees america as. --- JISOO JISOO <cite>_BlueMonk posted [p:952700967] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>if steve was everything patriots want to believe america is he is what the rest of the world sees america as. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 04/11/21 12:36:29 AM #21:	MabusIncarnate posted... Sorry but I need to say it. 3 medals of honor? 3? 3?! Only 3,400 roughly have been awarded in the history of the US miliary, and only 7 since Vietnam. That's a far, far reach that he has 3 of those 7. Only one man in military history has earned 2, and it was in the 1910s. Idk why this bugs me so much, but the MOH is basically the same ratio as getting struck by lightning when it comes to quantity compared to soldier. I find it way far fetched, especially with how much of a POS he is. I love the show though, don't get me wrong. He looks like a douche in the Cap uniform and I hate his guts. That's a big positive toward his acting honestly. tbf, we're talking about a franchise where the intelligent characters have at least five PhDs, multiple masters, and so on. when they want to establish that someone is special amongst their peers, they apparently need a bunch of documentation, awards, certificates, etc. lol --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:952701269] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>MabusIncarnate posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry but I need to say it. 3 medals of honor? 3? 3?! Only 3,400 roughly have been awarded in the history of the US miliary, and only 7 since Vietnam. That's a far, far reach that he has 3 of those 7. Only one man in military history has earned 2, and it was in the 1910s. Idk why this bugs me so much, but the MOH is basically the same ratio as getting struck by lightning when it comes to quantity compared to soldier. I find it way far fetched, especially with how much of a POS he is. I love the show though, don't get me wrong. He looks like a douche in the Cap uniform and I hate his guts. That's a big positive toward his acting honestly.</quote>tbf, we're talking about a franchise where the intelligent characters have at least five PhDs, multiple masters, and so on. when they want to establish that someone is special amongst their peers, they apparently need a bunch of documentation, awards, certificates, etc. lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 04/11/21 12:39:35 AM #22:	g0ldie posted... tbf, we're talking about a franchise where the intelligent characters have at least five PhDs, multiple masters, and so on. when they want to establish that someone is special amongst their peers, they apparently need a bunch of documentation, awards, certificates, etc. lol Very true, like Stark basically being the Elon Musk of the planet but putting it into making weapons and robots instead of whatever the hell Elon spaceship he's blowing up and posting about Dogecoin. I accept the fantasy/unrealistic most of the time, maybe it's because I was in the Army that this one stood out. It's awesome regardless, it's just his character and his tone and I think "How?" --- Above us lay the burdens, Below us lay the truths. We're somewhere in the middle, and we're all discontent too. Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:952701336] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>tbf, we're talking about a franchise where the intelligent characters have at least five PhDs, multiple masters, and so on. when they want to establish that someone is special amongst their peers, they apparently need a bunch of documentation, awards, certificates, etc. lol</quote>Very true, like Stark basically being the Elon Musk of the planet but putting it into making weapons and robots instead of whatever the hell Elon spaceship he's blowing up and posting about Dogecoin. I accept the fantasy/unrealistic most of the time, maybe it's because I was in the Army that this one stood out. It's awesome regardless, it's just his character and his tone and I think "How?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/11/21 12:40:38 AM #23:	I know they are going to make him do more stuff to make us hate him. But the OP is right. John should not be getting all this hate. Double so from Sam and Bucky. Same gave up the shield. He doesn't get to be pissy that someone else got it . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:952701369] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>I know they are going to make him do more stuff to make us hate him. But the OP is right. John should not be getting all this hate. Double so from Sam and Bucky. Same gave up the shield. He doesn't get to be pissy that someone else got it . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 04/11/21 12:42:50 AM #24:	MabusIncarnate posted... Very true, like Stark basically being the Elon Musk of the planet but putting it into making weapons and robots instead of whatever the hell Elon spaceship he's blowing up and posting about Dogecoin. I accept the fantasy/unrealistic most of the time, maybe it's because I was in the Army that this one stood out. It's awesome regardless, it's just his character and his tone and I think "How?" oh yea, I guess since you were in the military, it must stand out more, since you're more familiar with the history and what it takes --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:952701431] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>MabusIncarnate posted... </cite> <quote>Very true, like Stark basically being the Elon Musk of the planet but putting it into making weapons and robots instead of whatever the hell Elon spaceship he's blowing up and posting about Dogecoin. I accept the fantasy/unrealistic most of the time, maybe it's because I was in the Army that this one stood out. It's awesome regardless, it's just his character and his tone and I think "How?"</quote>oh yea, I guess since you were in the military, it must stand out more, since you're more familiar with the history and what it takes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 04/11/21 12:43:25 AM #25:	Jill Valentine is an Ex Delta Force member... at age 22. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:952701447] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Jill Valentine is an Ex Delta Force member... at age 22. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/11/21 12:47:50 AM #26:	meralonne posted... ...who was lying on the ground helpless and surrendering to not-Cap before getting his chest cavity rearranged. I get what youre going for ITT, but theres no way youre going to make Walker the good guy here. Its okay. I think Wyatt Russell is doing an excellent job with the character. Walker is a good guy. He made a mistake. But folks are acting like hes hot headed innately or a terrible Captain. He got virtually zero support or encouragement. He had to follow the lead of Steve Rogers, and had the expectations to handle an assignment that Bucky and Sam are sabotaging. His circumstances were completely different. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:952701545] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>...who was lying on the ground helpless and surrendering to not-Cap before getting his chest cavity rearranged. I get what youre going for ITT, but theres no way youre going to make Walker the good guy here. Its okay. I think Wyatt Russell is doing an excellent job with the character.</quote> Walker is a good guy. He made a mistake. But folks are acting like hes hot headed innately or a terrible Captain. He got virtually zero support or encouragement. He had to follow the lead of Steve Rogers, and had the expectations to handle an assignment that Bucky and Sam are sabotaging. His circumstances were completely different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 04/11/21 12:51:32 AM #27:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Walker is a good guy. He made a mistake. Oops! Sorry bro, didnt mean to kill you in cold blood. My bad! Yeah, you know and I know that this isnt the kind of fuck up that you can walk away from. Which is fine, since its a tv show and not reality, and now Im way more interested in seeing what becomes of Johnny than I was when he was just trying to be new-Cap. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:952701629] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>Walker is a good guy. He made a mistake. </quote> Oops! Sorry bro, didnt mean to kill you in cold blood. My bad! Yeah, you know and I know that this isnt the kind of fuck up that you can walk away from. Which is fine, since its a tv show and not reality, and now Im way more interested in seeing what becomes of Johnny than I was when he was just trying to be new-Cap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/11/21 12:57:30 AM #28:	meralonne posted... Oops! Sorry bro, didnt mean to kill you in cold blood. My bad! https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/crime_of_passion Dude was disrespected left and right. He concludes its the serum that he lacks to garner respect, and when he has it, he still cant save his best friend from getting fatally slumped. He is not a bad person. Hes human. Maybe if Bucky wasnt a complete asshole him at every chance, he could have coped with the pressure. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:952701791] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>Oops! Sorry bro, didnt mean to kill you in cold blood. My bad!</quote> https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/crime_of_passion Dude was disrespected left and right. He concludes its the serum that he lacks to garner respect, and when he has it, he still cant save his best friend from getting fatally slumped. He is not a bad person. Hes human. Maybe if Bucky wasnt a complete asshole him at every chance, he could have coped with the pressure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 04/11/21 12:58:58 AM #29:	Your Honor, I killed that guy in the street in front of dozens of witnesses because Bucky has been really, really mean to me. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:952701814] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Your Honor, I killed that guy in the street in front of dozens of witnesses because Bucky has been really, really mean to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 04/11/21 1:06:01 AM #30:	meralonne posted... Oops! Sorry bro, didnt mean to kill you in cold blood. My bad! Yeah, you know and I know that this isnt the kind of fuck up that you can walk away from. Which is fine, since its a tv show and not reality, and now Im way more interested in seeing what becomes of Johnny than I was when he was just trying to be new-Cap. Tony literally tried so hard to do that to Bucky --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:952701990] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>Oops! Sorry bro, didnt mean to kill you in cold blood. My bad! Yeah, you know and I know that this isnt the kind of fuck up that you can walk away from. Which is fine, since its a tv show and not reality, and now Im way more interested in seeing what becomes of Johnny than I was when he was just trying to be new-Cap.</quote> Tony literally tried so hard to do that to Bucky </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 04/11/21 1:11:21 AM #31:	refmon posted... Tony literally tried so hard to do that to Bucky for shit that Bucky did while literally brainwashed at that --- 100% garbage waste of human skin <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:952702118] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>Tony literally tried so hard to do that to Bucky</quote>for shit that Bucky did while literally brainwashed at that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 04/11/21 1:20:49 AM #32:	refmon posted... Tony literally tried so hard to do that to Bucky Whataboutism <cite>Joel95 posted [p:952702352] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>Tony literally tried so hard to do that to Bucky</quote>Whataboutism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 04/11/21 1:28:23 AM #33:	how many people cheers Tony trying to kill Bucky anyway? lots of people sided with Tony on the sokovia accord, but nobody wants him to kill Bucky. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:952702544] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>how many people cheers Tony trying to kill Bucky anyway? lots of people sided with Tony on the sokovia accord, but nobody wants him to kill Bucky. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 04/12/21 5:05:18 PM #34:	The guy he killed was an accessory to his friends death and contributed to blowing up a building and killing people. So how is John Walker the bad guy for killing a bad guy? I understand his arc but I don't understand him being called Captain MAGA when he killed a bad guy. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:952758715] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>The guy he killed was an accessory to his friends death and contributed to blowing up a building and killing people. So how is John Walker the bad guy for killing a bad guy? I understand his arc but I don't understand him being called Captain MAGA when he killed a bad guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 04/12/21 5:10:37 PM #35:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Walker is a good guy. This has literally never been true in all the decades of his history. He thinks hes a good guy, but thats not the same thing. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:952758889] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>Walker is a good guy.</quote>This has literally never been true in all the decades of his history. He thinks hes a good guy, but thats not the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 04/12/21 5:10:49 PM #36:	Sonixs posted... So how is John Walker the bad guy for killing a bad guy? More than one person can be bad, and killing a helpless person who has surrendered is bad. MabusIncarnate posted... Sorry but I need to say it. 3 medals of honor? 3? 3?! I thought that the show made it pretty clear that his seemingly unrealistic accolades were basically part of a government cover up of atrocious actions overseas. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:952758898] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite> <quote>So how is John Walker the bad guy for killing a bad guy?</quote>More than one person can be bad, and killing a helpless person who has surrendered is bad. MabusIncarnate posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry but I need to say it. 3 medals of honor? 3? 3?!</quote>I thought that the show made it pretty clear that his seemingly unrealistic accolades were basically part of a government cover up of atrocious actions overseas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 04/12/21 5:14:16 PM #37:	Tenlaar posted... More than one person can be bad, and killing a helpless person who has surrendered is bad. I thought that the show made it pretty clear that his seemingly unrealistic accolades were basically part of a government cover up of atrocious actions overseas. "Helpless" He is a super soldier. Not some random civilian. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:952759001] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>More than one person can be bad, and killing a helpless person who has surrendered is bad. I thought that the show made it pretty clear that his seemingly unrealistic accolades were basically part of a government cover up of atrocious actions overseas.</quote> "Helpless" He is a super soldier. Not some random civilian. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 04/12/21 5:16:05 PM #38:	They could've chosen literally any other actor and it would've been better. The guy looks like he was made in that Spy Kids silly putty machine. He looks even dopier with the mask on. Also, the character is so dry and uninteresting. We have zero reason to gaf about him. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:952759050] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>They could've chosen literally any other actor and it would've been better. The guy looks like he was made in that Spy Kids silly putty machine. He looks even dopier with the mask on. Also, the character is so dry and uninteresting. We have zero reason to gaf about him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 04/12/21 5:16:20 PM #39:	Sonixs posted... "Helpless" He is a super soldier. Not some random civilian. You say this like it somehow changes the facts that the guy was surrendering, not fighting back, and that killing people who are surrendering and not fighting back is what bad guys do. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:952759058] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite> <quote>"Helpless" He is a super soldier. Not some random civilian.</quote>You say this like it somehow changes the facts that the guy was surrendering, not fighting back, and that killing people who are surrendering and not fighting back is what bad guys do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mcpwnia 04/12/21 5:18:09 PM #41:	Sonixs posted... The guy he killed was an accessory to his friends death and contributed to blowing up a building and killing people. So how is John Walker the bad guy for killing a bad guy? I understand his arc but I don't understand him being called Captain MAGA when he killed a bad guy. ??? by Karli's associate's reaction when she blew up that building, that wasn't the plan going in. no one knew she was going to do that and the guy Walker killed had nothing to do with Karli killing Lemar and was his begging for his life. if Walker had let Sam talk Karli down, Lemar and Walker's victim would still be alive. Those deaths are entirely on Walker. --- http://i.minus.com/ieu2wE.gif https://imgur.com/gKHH1EP https://imgur.com/gwbShnd <cite>mcpwnia posted [p:952759132] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite> <quote>The guy he killed was an accessory to his friends death and contributed to blowing up a building and killing people. So how is John Walker the bad guy for killing a bad guy? I understand his arc but I don't understand him being called Captain MAGA when he killed a bad guy.</quote>??? by Karli's associate's reaction when she blew up that building, that wasn't the plan going in. no one knew she was going to do that and the guy Walker killed had nothing to do with Karli killing Lemar and was his begging for his life. if Walker had let Sam talk Karli down, Lemar and Walker's victim would still be alive. Those deaths are entirely on Walker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 04/12/21 5:18:26 PM #42:	Tenlaar posted... You say this like it somehow changes the facts that the guy was surrendering, not fighting back, and that killing people who are surrendering and not fighting back is what bad guys do. He wasn't surrendering. He got beat down by someone who was stronger than him and could no longer fight back. He was a murderer and got what he deserved. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:952759149] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>You say this like it somehow changes the facts that the guy was surrendering, not fighting back, and that killing people who are surrendering and not fighting back is what bad guys do.</quote> He wasn't surrendering. He got beat down by someone who was stronger than him and could no longer fight back. He was a murderer and got what he deserved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 04/12/21 5:19:38 PM #43:	mcpwnia posted... ??? by Karli's associate's reaction when she blew up that building, that wasn't the plan going in. no one knew she was going to do that and the guy Walker killed had nothing to do with Karli killing Lemar and was his begging for his life. if Walker had let Sam talk Karli down, Lemar and Walker's victim would still be alive. Those deaths are entirely on Walker. I agree with him being a doucher with everything prior to him killing that guy. He killed a guy who deserved it. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:952759188] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>mcpwnia posted... </cite> <quote>??? by Karli's associate's reaction when she blew up that building, that wasn't the plan going in. no one knew she was going to do that and the guy Walker killed had nothing to do with Karli killing Lemar and was his begging for his life. if Walker had let Sam talk Karli down, Lemar and Walker's victim would still be alive. Those deaths are entirely on Walker.</quote> I agree with him being a doucher with everything prior to him killing that guy. He killed a guy who deserved it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 04/12/21 5:19:45 PM #44:	Sonixs posted... He wasn't surrendering. He got beat down by someone who was stronger than him and could no longer fight back. He was a murderer and got what he deserved. I like how you're using murderer as a bad thing and then defending a murderer. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:952759194] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite> <quote>He wasn't surrendering. He got beat down by someone who was stronger than him and could no longer fight back. He was a murderer and got what he deserved.</quote>I like how you're using murderer as a bad thing and then defending a murderer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/12/21 5:23:29 PM #45:	mcpwnia posted... and the guy Walker killed had nothing to do with Karli killing Lemar He was the one holding Walker. Lemar then had to save him from Karli. Joel95 posted... I like how you're using murderer as a bad thing No, its to debunk the helpless and surrendering idea. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:952759318] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>mcpwnia posted... </cite> <quote>and the guy Walker killed had nothing to do with Karli killing Lemar</quote> He was the one holding Walker. Lemar then had to save him from Karli. Joel95 posted... </cite> <quote>I like how you're using murderer as a bad thing</quote> No, its to debunk the helpless and surrendering idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 04/12/21 5:26:05 PM #46:	cuttin_in_farm posted... He was the one holding Walker. Lemar then had to save him from Karli. No, its to debunk the helpless and surrendering idea. You can be a murderer and still be helpless and surrendering. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:952759394] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>He was the one holding Walker. Lemar then had to save him from Karli. No, its to debunk the helpless and surrendering idea.</quote>You can be a murderer and still be helpless and surrendering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 04/12/21 5:34:03 PM #47:	Joel95 posted... I like how you're using murderer as a bad thing and then defending a murderer. Are the people the put terrorist to death with lethal injection called murderers? <cite>Sonixs posted [p:952759673] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Joel95 posted... </cite> <quote>I like how you're using murderer as a bad thing and then defending a murderer.</quote> Are the people the put terrorist to death with lethal injection called murderers? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 04/12/21 5:36:13 PM #48:	Sonixs posted... Are the people the put terrorist to death with lethal injection called murderers? Did I miss a scene where Walker took the guy in, he was tried, sentenced to death by chest crushing on fountain steps, and then taken back there in order to be executed? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:952759741] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite> <quote>Are the people the put terrorist to death with lethal injection called murderers?</quote>Did I miss a scene where Walker took the guy in, he was tried, sentenced to death by chest crushing on fountain steps, and then taken back there in order to be executed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joel95 04/12/21 5:36:26 PM #49:	Sonixs posted... Are the people the put terrorist to death with lethal injection called murderers? They are held in court and tried for their crimes. The guy that had his chest caved in was not. <cite>Joel95 posted [p:952759755] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite> <quote>Are the people the put terrorist to death with lethal injection called murderers?</quote>They are held in court and tried for their crimes. The guy that had his chest caved in was not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 04/12/21 5:41:32 PM #50:	Joel95 posted... They are held in court and tried for their crimes. The guy that had his chest caved in was not. He was also a super soldier and lives in a world where the Avengers are real. Our real life rules don't apply. All I see is a bunch of people defending the equivalent to the Boston bomber. Like I said, he was a doucher up until that point. But he didn't exactly just cold blood murder an innocent person. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:952759952] in John Walke... [t:79397636]...</cite> <quote>Joel95 posted... </cite> <quote>They are held in court and tried for their crimes. The guy that had his chest caved in was not.</quote> He was also a super soldier and lives in a world where the Avengers are real. Our real life rules don't apply. All I see is a bunch of people defending the equivalent to the Boston bomber. Like I said, he was a doucher up until that point. But he didn't exactly just cold blood murder an innocent person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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