Board 8 > Rank the Tracks Week 8: Abbey Road - check the track listing (+ Rumours results)

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CasanovaZelos
04/25/21 11:40:58 AM
#1:


Are you fine with the schedule?




Note: I have combined certain parts of the Abbey Road medley based off how I usually see them divided. You Never Give Me Your Money doesn't exactly lead into Sun King and can easily stand on its own, while there is a clear break between Bathroom Window and Golden Slumbers. Her Majesty was originally a hidden track and is also incredibly short, so I figured it was better to leave out (or consider it part of the final track).

Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, May 2 at 8:00 AM EST - though if you are for whatever reason listening to the album around that time, just say so in the topic and I can delay a bit
7. You can sign up to be added to a user cycle for after we finish the queue; once we get through the last planned album, the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).
7c. The order of the user cycle will be randomly determined, but users will first be sorted into tiers by how many of their nominations have been covered during the early nominations period.

The Beatles' Abbey Road track list:
1. Come Together
2. Something
3. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
4. Oh! Darling
5. Octopus's Garden
6. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
7. Here Comes the Sun
8. Because
9. You Never Give Me Your Money
10. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
11. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End

Schedule:
5/2: U2 - Achtung Baby (Jesse_Custer)
5/9: Radiohead - OK Computer (Jesse_Custer)
5/16: Alice in Chains - Dirt (ZeroSignal620)
5/23: LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver (CasanovaZelos)
5/30: Pink Floyd - The Wall (Johnbobb)
6/6: Pixies - Doolittle (VeryInsane)
6/13: Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (Johnbobb)
6/20: Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City (Start the Machine)
6/27: Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell (Seanchan)
7/4: Lin-Manuel Miranda - Hamilton (TomNook)
7/11: Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid (TheArkOfTurus)
7/18: The Strokes - Is This It (MoogleKupo141)
7/25: Fiona Apple - Fetch the Bolt Cutters (CasanovaZelos)
8/1: Massive Attack - Mezzanine (Giggsalot)
8/8: The Killers - Hot Fuss (Seanchan)
8/15: Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five (jcgamer107)
8/22: Air - Moon Safari (ZaziGuado)
8/29: The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced (Johnbobb)
9/5: Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine (Steiner)
9/12: The Knife - Silent Shout (CasanovaZelos)
9/19: Billy Joel - The Stranger (Seanchan)
9/26: Spice Girls - Spice (SpikeSetsFire)
10/3: Iron Maiden - Powerslave (TheArkOfTurus)
10/10: Rancid - ...And Out Come the Wolves (Snake5555555555)
10/17: OutKast - Aquemini (Giggsalot)
10/24: Of Monsters and Men - Beneath the Skin (Jesse_Custer)
10/31: Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Snake5555555555)
11/7: The Avalanches - Since I Left You (SpikeSetsFire)
11/14: Moby - Play (SpikeSetsFire)
11/21: Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill (Seginustemple)

User Cycle sign-ups:
11/28: MetalmindStats
12/5: TheArkOfTurus
12/12: Snake5555555555
12/19: Jesse_Custer
12/26: ZaziGuado
1/2: SpikeSetsFire
1/9: Johnbobb
1/16: VeryInsane
1/23: CasanovaZelos
1/30: Seanchan

Users by number of nominations covered (not yet in user cycle):
2 Albums:
Giggsalot

1 Album:
ZeroSingal620
Start the Machine
TomNook
MoogleKupo141
jcgamer107
Steiner
Seginustemple

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CasanovaZelos
04/25/21 11:44:08 AM
#2:


Fleetwood Mac - Rumours results

Participants sorted by deviation from final results:
CasanovaZelos (6)
Jesse_Custer (14)
ZeroSignal620 (14)
TheArkOfTurus (16)
VeryInsane (16)
ChainLTTP (18)
Johnbobb (18)
SpikeSetsFire (20)
MetalmindStats (20)
Seanchan (20)
Xtlm (22)
ChichiriMuro (24)
ZaziGuado (24)
LordoftheMorons (26)
Raetsel_Lapin (30)
Snake5555555555 (34)

General Album Comments:

Snake5555555555: One of those albums where literally every song is an instant classic. It's an album made for everyone, seamlessly blending the lines of rock & pop to where genre doesn't even matter anymore, and you're just left with songs made from the heart and with total passion, vigor, & genuine emotion that makes each song an impactful listen every time.

ZaziGuado: This was the first Fleetwood Mac album I've ever listened to and I've never been able to identify a song as Fleetwood Mac outside of Dreams and Landslide and maybe one other I'm not remembering. However, I recognized three of the songs on it from daily life experiences. Before this I thought Fleetwood Mac was largely fronted by Stevie Nicks, so I was surprised how little her voice was the sole feature. The story of the album is an interesting one and it's impressive the band were able to see it the whole way through and provide backing vocals on their ex's breakup songs. Overall this was an impressive, tight album that was mostly enjoyable the whole way through with a couple of top tier songs. Very glad I listened to it.

CasanovaZelos: Rumours is #82 on my all-time list and #3 for 1977 - one of the best years for music. The funny thing is, this soft rock classic is surrounded by punk and its various spin-offs along with some early electronic albums. When music was looking for a new way forward, Fleetwood Mac managed to succeed in a familiar style by making an album loaded front to back with hits. Despite the 'soft' sound of the music, this is as emotionally raw as records come - the fact we get a breakup from both sides adds an extra layer. This is a band in turmoil, three vocalists warring over concepts and each other. Beyond the lyrics and vocals, these songs are undeniably catchy. It took years for this album to really grow on me; soft rock is not my usual style, but it's rare for an album to be so consistent from beginning to end in any genre. And, well, time has unfortunately granted a better understanding of these mixed emotions. "If you don't love me now, you will never love me again" indeed.

MetalmindStats: As a collection of songs, Rumours is top-notch; as a coherent album, the juxtaposition of the writing's thematic consistency and the sound's relative variability feels like the point. Whatever the case, I found the result stuffed to the brim with familiarly enjoyable yet often adventurous music, largely even extending to those songs I didn't know beforehand.

Seanchan: An album like this is another example of why I love this topic series. This is another classic that I would have never bothered listening to otherwise. Outside of my bottom two songs (which are okay but clearly the weakest for me) there's just some really great, fun stuff here. I enjoyed doing a few extra listens to try to get my ordering right but still feel bad about having to rank some of these songs so low.

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CasanovaZelos
04/25/21 11:49:21 AM
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Rumours Track Ranking

11. Oh Daddy (Track #10)
Score: 35 (Average Rank: 9.81/11)
Biggest Fan(s): ChichiriMuro (#5)
Biggest Detractor(s): ChainLTTP, Jesse_Custer, TheArkOfTurus, ZaziGuado, SpikeSetsFire, ZeroSignal620, Johnbobb, Seanchan, VeryInsane (#11)

ZaziGuado: This song just never fully clicks with me. I'm not sure what it is. Maybe it's the erratic nature of the instruments. It just feels like the song's true potential is never reached.

Johnbobb: I don't think there will ever be a time I'll enjoy a grown ass adult saying "daddy"

10. Songbird (Track #6)
Score: 64 (Average Rank: 8.31/11)
Biggest Fan(s): LordoftheMorons (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Snake5555555555, ChichiriMuro, CasanovaZelos (#11)

ZaziGuado: I generally like piano and slower heartfelt songs, but after such a strong first half of the album, this was kind of an unwelcome tempo change. It doesn't stand out much. I don't hate it, but it's got a pretty bad spot on the album considering my enjoyment of the songs it's sandwiched by.

Johnbobb: there aren't many "meh" songs on this album but this is definitely one of them

9. Never Going Back Again (Track #3)
Score: 68 (Average Rank: 7.75/11)
Biggest Fan(s): Xtlm, SpikeSetsFire (#5)
Biggest Detractor(s): MetalmindStats (#11)

ZaziGuado: It's fun strumming of a guitar, but never does much interesting beyond that. That said, I do enjoy fun strumming of a guitar so that's not necessarily a large knock against it.

Johnbobb: been down one tiiiiiiime. been down two tiiiiiiiiime.

8. I Don't Want to Know (Track #9)
Score: 76 (Average Rank: 7.5/11)
Biggest Fan(s): Snake5555555555 (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Jesse_Custer, Xtlm, MetalmindStats (#10)

ZaziGuado: Those are some well placed claps. Catch me off guard every time but I love them. Very good song.

Johnbobb: do I wanna know if this feeling flows both ways? hate to see you go, was sorta hoping that you'd stay

7. Second Hand News (Track #1)
Score: 80 (Average Rank: 7.13/11)
Biggest Fan(s): ZaziGuado, ZeroSignal620 (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin, LordoftheMorons (#11)

ZaziGuado: I really enjoy the "byow byow byow" part. Super catchy and imitates the instrumentation behind it. This is a fun, bouncy opener.

Johnbobb: Man what an upbeat opener; hell of a way to start

6. Gold Dust Woman (Track #11)
Score: 105 (Average Rank: 5.88/11)
Biggest Fan(s): ChainLTTP, Snake5555555555, ChichiriMuro (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Xtlm (#11)

ZaziGuado: It's okay. Kind of a disappointing close after all the great stuff that followed it. I wish they would've really committed to the end of the song in a way similar to The Chain. It felt like they were going to for a small bit, but then they just fade it out and I'm not the biggest fan of fade outs.

Johnbobb: all this song makes me think of is how incredible it could've been to see a collaboration between The Doors and Fleetwood Mac had Morrison lived long enough.

5. Don't Stop (Track #4)
Score: 114 (Average Rank: 5.19/11)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan, VeryInsane (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): ChainLTTP, Raetsel_Lapin, ChichiriMuro (#8)

ZaziGuado: I guess I didn't realize this was a Fleetwood Mac song. This is, like, THE song I imagine as being a child while driving with my parents with the classic rock station on. There's definitely a comfort with it that can only come after almost 45 years of radio play. All that said, it earned that mantle.

Johnbobb: is there any song on this album not immediately quoteable (answer: yes, but not until track 6)

4. You Make Loving Fun (Track #8)
Score: 121 (Average Rank: 5.19/11)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin, Xtlm, SpikeSetsFire (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): MetalmindStats, Seanchan (#9)

ZaziGuado: This has that quintessential 70s groove sound. I greatly enjoy the solo guitar. I like this song more than I think I do, if that makes sense. I don't fully understand it, but it's what I feel.

Johnbobb: definitely a solid song that would stand out more on a worse album

3. Go Your Own Way (Track #5)
Score: 157 (Average Rank: 3.5/11)
Biggest Fan(s): ZaziGuado, CasanovaZelos, Seanchan (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Snake5555555555, Raetsel_Lapin (#7)

ZaziGuado: Whether it made final copy/paste or not, I've used good to describe like every one of these songs so far, but Go Your Own Way is truly great. That chorus is cathartic and the guitars throughout are pretty rockin'.

Johnbobb: this song would've ranked higher if I had ever been able to pull off the vocal in Guitar Hero: World Tour

2. The Chain (Track #7)
Score: 170 (Average Rank: 3/11)
Biggest Fan(s): TheArkOfTurus, ChichiriMuro, VeryInsane (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Snake5555555555 (#8)

ZaziGuado: This feels like one of those songs that was a big hit, but that I have no recollection of hearing prior to this week. That's fine, though, because this track bangs. Forgive me for this, but I have to say that the bass whenever it kicks in is THICC. The ending minute and a half is a joyride.

Johnbobb: goddamn every time I think I know what to expect from this album they startle me with something incredible like this

1. Dreams (Track #2)
Score: 178 (Average Rank: 2.75/11)
Biggest Fan(s): ChainLTTP, Jesse_Custer, ZeroSignal620, Johnbobb, MetalmindStats (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): ZaziGuado (#7)

ZaziGuado: This is my wife's favorite song. However, I don't fully understand that. Yeah, it's a good song but it doesn't feel like it has the elements of being an all-time favorite song, whatever the hell those may be. I dunno. I guess I can see how it trips a trigger. Like I said: it's good. It's got a warm, chill vibe that just sails along. Good easy listening.

Johnbobb: potentially the chillest song ever written. Putting this right after the ecstatic Second Hand News was a bold and brilliant choice that cements this album immediately as something special

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ChainLTTP
04/25/21 11:52:11 AM
#4:


Ugh I hate the way the medley is split up here.

1. Something
2. You Never Give Me Your Money
3. Here Comes the Sun
4. Come Together
5. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
6. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
7. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End/Her Majesty (you forgot this one)
8. Because
9. Oh! Darling
10. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
11. Octopus's Garden

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CasanovaZelos
04/25/21 12:36:18 PM
#5:


Abbey Road is my #44 album of all time and my favorite from 1969. Most of the Beatles albums from Rubber Soul on are undeniable classics, but Abbey Road is the only one that doesn't strike me as having a weak moment. It kicks off with two of their best singles, has a Ringo vocal track that I actually enjoy, and ends with a wonderful medley. This is The Beatles at their most refined. Even my lowest track, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, is a lot of fun. Their other albums may have higher highs, but the consistency here makes a true masterpiece.

Though I also don't get the 'medley' as a concept. It feels like people just collectively agreed everything from You Never Give Me Your Money on is a single medley even though there are distinct breaks between a few components. Certain parts of this medley certainly reference earlier parts, but an album featuring a motif does not mean the songs using that motif should be treated as part of the same movement. What exactly links Golden Slumbers to the previous tracks? Does having a cricket outro really mean You Never Give Me Your Money is conceptually linked to Sun King? The ones I left together definitely work - they explicitly build off of each other's energy without leaving a musical break. The only reason I can think of for people to link these all together is when "Carry That Weight" calls back to YNGMYM, but again, there have been two distinct breaks between those tracks. I know plenty of albums that do stuff like that.

1. Something (#1080 all-time)
2. Come Together (#1373)
3. Here Comes the Sun (#1897)
4. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End (#2214)
5. You Never Give Me Your Money
6. Because
7. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
8. Oh! Darling
9. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
10. Octopus's Garden
11. Maxwell's Silver Hammer

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Solioxrz362
04/25/21 12:38:52 PM
#6:


Something
Here Comes the Sun
Oh! Darling
You Never Give Me Your Money
Because
Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
I Want You (She's So Heavy)
Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
Come Together
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Octopus's Garden


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Snake5555555555
04/25/21 1:33:05 PM
#7:


  1. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
  2. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
  3. Oh! Darling
  4. Come Together
  5. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
  6. You Never Give Me Your Money
  7. Something
  8. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
  9. Octopus's Garden
  10. Here Comes the Sun
  11. Because


A stone cold classic through and through. It opens with the amazing rock staple Come Together, with funky grooves and nonsensical lyrics that tends to define the Beatles' influence more and more over the years. I absolutely love the bluesy doom/stoner cut I Want You (She's So Heavy), a slow-burner that becomes more and more rewarding with each listen, as you feel Lennon's pure raw emotion slicing through each lyric, simplistic but oh so powerful. Oh! Darling and Maxwell's Silver Hammer are two of the catchiest songs in the Beatles' catalog, playing gleefully with both hard rock and pop sensibilities for two unique songs, especially how Maxwell juxtaposes its violent horror-inspired lyrics with bouncy melodies as if under a certain psychosis. As for the medleys, they're inconsistent; I hardly remember Golden Slumbers but Carry That Weight is instantly memorable with larger outside pop culture influence and The End is simply a tour de force of guitar passages and underrated drumming. I actually thought You Never Give Me Your Money was part of the Sun King medley, but either way it's an even more inconsistent mess that I don't feel flows very well, but still has some groovy highlights and interesting lyricism. To give one negative critique on the album, I would say Because is a total dud and arguably one of the worst in the Beatles' repertoire, it just has done nothing interesting to catch my ear over the years.

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Jesse_Custer
04/25/21 1:52:46 PM
#9:


  1. Here Comes the Sun
  2. Something
  3. Come Together
  4. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
  5. You Never Give Me Your Money
  6. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
  7. Oh! Darling
  8. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
  9. Because
  10. Octopus's Garden
  11. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
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VeryInsane
04/25/21 1:54:30 PM
#10:


Oh we split the medley in half

gonna have to think on this one

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CasanovaZelos
04/25/21 10:12:12 PM
#11:


Bump

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StifledSilence
04/25/21 10:31:33 PM
#12:


1. You Never Give Me Your Money
2. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/In the End
3. Here Comes the Sun
4. Sun King/Mustard/Pam/Bathroom Window
5. Octopus's Garden
6. Oh Darling
7. Something
8. I Want You
9. Come Together
10. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
11. Because

I love the roller coaster of emotions in You Never Give Me Your Money. It starts slow and somber, and builds to the energetic section of escaping. And that reprise in Carry That Weight? Perfection. Here Comes the Sun should be the official anthem of Spring. It just feels so warm and evocative of life. George really knocked that one out of the park. The first half of the medley is a mixed bag for me. Sun King has an outstanding guitar hook, but the chanting is a bit cringey for my tastes. Mustard and Pam are fun enough, but Bathroom Window kicks so much ass in that group. What made for a middling group of songs was boosted heavily by Paul's exciting vocal in Bathroom. Octopus is a fun little jam that always puts me in a good mood. Oh Darling harkens back to some of Paul's bluesy tracks from early Beatles, such as She's a Woman, which is a favorite of mine. Something is a pretty love song that even caught the attention of Frank Sinatra. She's So Heavy would have benefitted from a shorter length, but it's still a pretty slick track, particularly with John's signature rasp. Come Together might be one of the most overrated Beatles songs. I'm not all that keen on songs with jibberish lyrics, but at least it's got a catchy tune. Maxwell is kind of a dumb song, and apparently caused a lot of friction between Paul and George since Paul was being a hyper perfectionist while recording it. And Because is super weird. I'd hate to call it a dud but...I could do without it. But yeah, Abbey Road is a pretty killer album overall. Certainly one of their best.
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LiquidOshawott
04/25/21 10:44:17 PM
#13:


Something
Here Comes The Sun
Come Together
Golden Slumbers/Carry that weight/The End
You Never Give Me Your Money
Oh Darling
I Want You Shes So Heavy
Because
Octopuss Garden
Maxwells Silver Hammer
Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came in Through the Bathroom Window

You know for a while I always thought this was overrated, but on this listenthrough it was pretty compact and rather pleasant. Theres the pretty cheesy songs and the fat of the Medley separated from the rest of the lot, but every song from Because on is great.

I think this is still probably my fourth or fifth favorite Beatles album, (Rubber Soul > Revolver > Sgt Peppers > Either this or Tour, would probably go with this now)

Also in case you couldnt tell from my ranking Harrison is far and away my favorite Beatle

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Johnbobb
04/25/21 11:59:05 PM
#14:


man I haven't even listened through the album yet but y'all are sleeping on Maxwell's Silver Hammer

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Snake5555555555
04/26/21 12:02:38 AM
#15:


Johnbobb posted...
man I haven't even listened through the album yet but y'all are sleeping on Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Thank you!

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Jesse_Custer
04/26/21 1:24:57 AM
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Johnbobb posted...
man I haven't even listened through the album yet but y'all are sleeping on Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Honestly, that song has really bugged me since I was a child. Its not a bad song musically, but I just have such an aversion to it for reasons that are tough to explain.
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ChainLTTP
04/26/21 7:54:32 AM
#17:


Maxwell's Silver Hammer is just...cartoonish? It's fine, but the rest of the album (besides Octopus's Garden) is just so mature that it doesn't really work for me.

And speaking of that, it never ceases to amaze me how much The Beatles progressed in like six fucking years. So many bands go longer between albums, but from With the Beatles to Abbey Road is basically a generation's worth of music evolution for them. It's totally nuts.
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Evillordexdeath
04/26/21 9:21:43 AM
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1. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End/Her Majesty
2. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
3. You Never Give Me Your Money
4. Oh! Darling
5. Come Together
6. Something
7. Here Comes the Sun
8. Octopus's Garden
9. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
10. Because
11. I Want You (She's So Heavy)

One of my less-liked Beatles albums, although I do still hold it in high regard. I used to sort of think of the back-half of the album as the reward for getting through She's So Heavy, but nowadays I usually just skip that one, mainly because it feels so overly long. I do genuinely really like all the songs from Maxwell's Silver Hammer upward. Here Comes the Sun is just a lot of fun and feels uplifting while Something, Come Together, and Oh Darling are all solid, unique tracks. I've always thought the medley was the most interesting part of the album, and I rank the ending highest in part because it brings home that feeling of satisfaction that comes with listening to a long, good song.

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Johnbobb
04/26/21 2:35:32 PM
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After listening I'm not entirely sure why the medley is grouped at all. They flow largely into each other but they're still pretty distinct song to song

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LiquidOshawott
04/26/21 4:57:42 PM
#20:


Johnbobb posted...
man I haven't even listened through the album yet but y'all are sleeping on Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Remember, just because its low ranked doesnt mean we think the song is bad. Just less good than other songs on the album

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CasanovaZelos
04/27/21 12:32:48 AM
#21:


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Giggsalot
04/27/21 3:30:48 AM
#22:


Hey all! I'll sign up for the user cycle. Great album today too!

Overall:

What a brilliant, lush, diverse album. The best Beatles album by quite a distance, and their only full record which stands alongside the absolute best of that era. I think I'd still take Forever Changes over it, but that's perhaps a discussion for another topic.

Come Together

Stone cold classic and deserving rock canon staple obviously, but that makes it easy to overlook just how straight up weird this is. Great opener.

Something

Just stunning, one of the best love songs ever. That bridge is unbelievable, and the way that the rhythm section is low key going off here, even on a ballad, shows how tight and creative these guys were by this point.

Maxwell's Silver Hammer

One of the Beatles songs that I remember best from childhood, which surely says something for it. Besides that, this is some upper tier McCartney nonsense and the giggle in the second verse is great.

Oh Darling!

I'd overlooked this until recently, and it's definitely not a standout here overall. But bloody hell, that Lennon vocal is pretty great.

Octopus' Garden

Okay, this is where I alienate everyone. This is one of the most wholesome and beautiful kid's songs ever, and I love every second of it. The best of the Beatles' "silly songs" by a country mile.

I Want You (She's So Heavy)

Okay, maybe this is where I alienate everyone. I've inherited my Beatles-mad father's dislike of this song, and was baffled to learn later in life that people love it. Blues rock is just so boring, guys. Admittedly the feel of the solo here is fun and the second half gets impressively dark, but man, this did not need to be nearly eight minutes long. Give me over Helter Skelter over this any day.

Here Comes the Sun

The perfect antidote after the previous dirge. Absolutely perfect pop song, what can you even say here? If anyone doesn't like this I don't want to be their friend.

Because

This is some spooky shit. I can't say I'd ever choose to listen to it outside of the album, but it does what it wants to do pretty flawlessly. Cool callback to I Want You too.

You Never Give Me Your Money

This is my shit right here. The encapsulation of why McCartney is probably secretly the best Beatle, none of the others could pull this off. Hot take zone: this is way better than A Day in the Life.

Sun King / Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam / Bathroom Window

Bathroom Window does the heavy lifting here in songwriting terms (what a brilliant, overlooked song that is), but the way these otherwise unremarkable snippets are arranged to gradually build in energy is actually brilliant. By Polythene Pam they're basically playing proto-punk and Ringo's throwing his sticks out the window.

Golden Slumbers / Carry that Weight / The End / Her Majesty

They never got better than this. Honestly, the slightly generic victory lap of The End sdoesn't hold up as well as the perfection of the preceding two sections, but they've really earned it by that point. Golden Slumbers is just heartbreaking, and the way the pub choir and the horns break in is absolutely magical. Another McCartney multi-part masterpiece. No band has ever gone out better than this in the fifty years since. (And screw the haters, Her Majesty is a part of that too! That dangling last note is hilarious.)

Ranking:

Golden Slumbers / Carry that Weight / The End / Her Majesty
Here Comes the Sun
Something
You Never Give Me Your Money
Octopus' Garden
Sun King / Mean Mr Mustard / Polythene Pam / Bathroom Window
Come Together
Because
Oh Darling!
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
I Want You (She's so Heavy)

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ChainLTTP
04/27/21 8:35:44 AM
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Oh that magic feeling.

The Medley really is the best song ever made if taken as a whole.

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CasanovaZelos
04/27/21 11:04:17 AM
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Giggsalot posted...
Hey all! I'll sign up for the user cycle. Great album today too!

Overall:

What a brilliant, lush, diverse album. The best Beatles album by quite a distance, and their only full record which stands alongside the absolute best of that era. I think I'd still take Forever Changes over it, but that's perhaps a discussion for another topic.


Forever Changes is almost certainly going to be in my first batch of nominations...whenever it gets to my turn. Absolutely an all-time great, and I expect it to be one to surprise those who are unfamiliar - though that also implies a hurdle of getting people to vote for it.

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CasanovaZelos
04/27/21 6:55:47 PM
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Seanchan
04/27/21 9:39:25 PM
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1. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
2. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
3. You Never Give Me Your Money
4. Oh! Darling
5. Octopus's Garden
6. Something
7. Because
8. Come Together
9. Here Comes the Sun
10. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
11. I Want You (She's So Heavy)

Story time...
So, back in high school, I didn't like The Beatles. I had a co-worker who would play 1 (their #1 hits compliation) and I couldn't stand it.

Fast forward to college, and in the waning days of file sharing, I found someone with all The Beatles albums. On a whim, I decided to download it because, what the hell, it was a lot of music!** And so I started listening; might have even started with Abbey Road for all I remember.

I'm sure you can guess where this is going, considering this album was my nomination...

I very quickly realized how wrong I was. And the more I dug in and listened, the better it got. Every album, without fail, had at least a few songs that I liked. And then I did some research and found out that literally their entire discography came out in a less than 10 year span! THE. FUCK?!? They went from Please Please Me to Let It Be in a decade?!? I probably spent a good month listening to nothing else as I tried to make up for lost time.

Even today, it's somewhat incomprehensible to think that they went from simple "boy band" to "rock legends" just in the 60s. All the hits, the drugs, the mania, the experimentation and evolution of their sound, all in just a few short years. There are bands where you're lucky to get 3 albums in that time span. The Beatles had enough hits that just their #1s literally overflow a compilation album. Truly incredible.

I nominated Abbey Road because it's got to be my favorite Beatles album. And, at this point, one of my favorite albums period. Trying to rank these songs felt terrible because I feel bad that something (but not Something...) has got to be at the bottom of the list. For me though, it's always the medley that's been the most memorable. There's just something about it's eclectic weirdness and beauty that stands out in my mind. I really, really wanted to put Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window as #1 but objectively the final piece, Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End, is the best part.

Maybe a few years ago, I finally found out that despite being released before Let It Be, that Abbey Road was actually the last thing The Beatles recorded as a group. For me, it brings an extra bit of emotional weight to Abbey Road; the medley is the end of that story, it's the best thing they ever did, and finishes it off so poetically. (Discounting Her Majesty...) The final lyric is "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make". An awe inspiringly fitting coda for The Beatles that will echo across the music landscape forever.

**I did eventually end up buying that big Beatles box set compilation (https://www.amazon.com/ Beatles-Original-Studio-Recordings-Stereo/dp/B002BSHWUU/) for my mom as a gift a few years after my file sharing "escapades". I felt better about what I had initially done because there's no way I would have gifted that otherwise.

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04/28/21 10:48:52 AM
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04/28/21 9:30:56 PM
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Raetsel_Lapin
04/28/21 9:43:24 PM
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1: Oh! Darling
2: Here Comes The Sun
3: Something
4: Come Together
5: Octopus's Garden
6: Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
7: Because
8: Maxwell's Silver Hammer
9: Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
10: You Never Give Me Your Money
11: I Want You (She's So Heavy)
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ChainLTTP
04/28/21 11:08:58 PM
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Man these are all over the place
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Johnbobb
04/28/21 11:43:56 PM
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  1. Maxwell's Silver Hammer - this has always been one of my favorite Beatles songs, in no small part because it's so instantly memorable. It's probably the best example of a song's tone not matching its themes, which are dark and violent. I just really love the tune.
  2. I Want You (She's So Heavy) - This grungy type of Beatles sound is just such a surprisingly good fit. The upbeat, poppy stuff is always hit-or-miss for me, but this more experimental style works so well.
  3. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window - Can't believe I've never heard the Abbey Road medley before, given that I knew almost every other song on the record. This feels like the group just throwing idea after idea into a cluster, and it's great.
  4. Come Together - even among Beatles songs, this one sticks out as unforgettable.
  5. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End - a pleasant winding down medley after the craziness of the last handful of songs, and one that settles the album on a solid note
  6. Because - People are kinda hating on this (two people already called it a "dud"), but I think it deserves more credit, because this is the bridge between the singles and the medley, connecting two very distinct sections of album together into a cohesive whole. It doesn't stand on its own too well, sure, but it's necessary to prepare you for what's to come.
  7. Something - Maybe not the standout of the album, but it could be for a lesser band. Sweet and lovely.
  8. Oh! Darling - I like this song in doses. It's aged a lot differently than the rest of the album; much of it is fairly timeless, but Oh! Darling distinctly sounds like it came out of the 60s, maybe even earlier. That's not a bad thing, but it's definitely noticeable.
  9. Octopus's Garden - why did The Beatles suddenly become Ween
  10. Here Comes the Sun - Part of the low ranking here comes from how overplayed this is among Beatles songs, given that, compared to much of their works, it's just fine. What lowered the score was hearing it in the context of the rest of the album, where it appears smack between what would otherwise be an incredible transitition from I Want You to Because. It doesn't fit at all, and interrupts the flow that connects the two halves, almost like an afterthought.
  11. You Never Give Me Your Money - This is probably the one song on the album I couldn't name if asked.



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Johnbobb
04/28/21 11:44:15 PM
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ChainLTTP posted...
Man these are all over the place
lol

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SpikeSetsFire
04/29/21 9:38:55 AM
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Alright... I've gone through this album about 4-5 times now.
I think I'm settled...

1. Something
2. Here Comes The Sun
3. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
4. Octopus's Garden
5. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
6. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
7. Because
8. Come Together
9. Oh! Darling
10. You Never Give Me Your Money
11. Sun King/Mean Mr Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through The Window

It's really interesting seeing such variations and tastes so far.
I think that alone speaks volumes on what an incredible album this is.


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SpikeSetsFire
04/29/21 9:48:08 AM
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Oh... Also, I didn't know, until you guys pointed it out, that this was their last studio album.
So while I re-listened, it became a little bit clearer on each of their directions they wanted and did take.

Rumours and Abbey Road... the last two weeks have been fantastic!
I'm looking forward to next week's album and so on!


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CasanovaZelos
04/29/21 5:08:50 PM
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It looks like most people are good with the schedule.

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SpikeSetsFire
04/30/21 8:37:32 AM
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I'll try and generate a bit of conversation to keep this topic bumped for the weekend...

What's everyone's favourite members post-Beatles songs?'

George Harrison - My Sweet Lord
Paul McCartney & Wings - Band on the Run
John Lennon - Mind Games
Ringo Starr - It Don't Come Easy


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Snake5555555555
04/30/21 12:48:42 PM
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George Harrison - Got My Mind Set on You
Paul McCartney & Linda McCartney - Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey
John Lennon - Working Class Hero
Ringo Starr - Spooky Weirdness

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Jesse_Custer
04/30/21 1:27:27 PM
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George Harrison - Got My Mind Set on You
Paul McCartney & Wings - Band on the Run
John Lennon - Imagine
Ringo Starr - Not familiar with his solo stuff
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CasanovaZelos
04/30/21 1:55:17 PM
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George Harrison - My Sweet Lord (I don't really care otherwise)
Paul McCartney - Live and Let Die
John Lennon - Imagine or Mother

Not really familiar with Ringo Starr solo

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CasanovaZelos
04/30/21 3:21:19 PM
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Though I disagree with the Abbey Road medley as a single piece, I really wish there was a version of that on Spotify. I want it in my playlists but not as individual pieces that don't work as well alone...

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Johnbobb
04/30/21 5:48:19 PM
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George Harrison - My Sweet Lord (not a big fan of his solo stuff tbh)
Paul McCartney & Wings - Band on the Run
John Lennon - Working Class Hero

CasanovaZelos posted...
Not really familiar with Ringo Starr solo


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ChainLTTP
04/30/21 5:57:00 PM
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Ringo Starr has literally one great song as a solo artist that Harrison probably wrote for him. And he is in the rock and roll hall of fame for it, lol.
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Jesse_Custer
04/30/21 6:03:23 PM
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For awhile I thought I Melt With You was a Ringo song because the singer sounded so much like him. After I discovered it was Modern English, Im not sure I know even a single solo Ringo song.
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LiquidOshawott
04/30/21 6:11:57 PM
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Lennon- Mother
Harrison - All Things Must Pass
McCartney - Maybe Im Amazed
Starr - Honestly Photograph is a banger

Basic but they all are good

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CasanovaZelos
05/01/21 1:02:33 AM
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MetalmindStats
05/01/21 3:10:29 AM
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I had intended to listen through Rumours thrice before ranking it, a mark I did achieve this time:
  1. Come Together
  2. Something
  3. Here Comes the Sun
  4. Because
  5. Maxwells Silver Hammer
  6. Octopuss Garden
  7. Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came in Through the Bathroom Window
  8. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
  9. You Never Give Me Your Money
  10. Oh! Darling
  11. I Want You (Shes So Heavy)
I came at this from the quite-unusual perspective of never having heard most of these songs before this week, a testament to how my music tastes gravitate towards what I know. It took returning to Come Together for me to recall its status as the main exception, and even then, I hadn't attributed it to the Beatles in my head. While I still wouldn't consider myself a Beatles fan per se, and I found it particularly difficult to gauge the medleys as split, Abbey Road certainly exceeded my unfairly low expectations.

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ChainLTTP
05/01/21 9:56:58 AM
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Jesse_Custer posted...
For awhile I thought I Melt With You was a Ringo song because the singer sounded so much like him. After I discovered it was Modern English, Im not sure I know even a single solo Ringo song.
It Don't Come Easy is the most famous one, I think. And it's arguably better than anyone else's solo hits!
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illuminatusbubu
05/01/21 4:30:15 PM
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Oh! Darling
Come Together
Here Comes the Sun
Something
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
You Never Give Me Your Money
Because
Octopus's Garden
I Want You (She's So Heavy)
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CasanovaZelos
05/02/21 12:53:13 AM
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This will be my final bump

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CasanovaZelos
05/02/21 9:53:00 AM
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I'm calculating the results now

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SpikeSetsFire
05/02/21 10:01:53 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Starr - Honestly Photograph is a banger

Just listened to it for the first time now and love it!
Also just wanna shout out to George Harrison - What is Life before we finish this topic.
Can't wait to see the results!


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