Current Events > Do people actually truly believe 1/6 was the darkest day in US History

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What_
06/04/21 6:55:19 PM
#152:


Yall do realize most Republicans by a vast majority supported that insurrection and believe that the election was fraudulent right?
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MrDrMan
06/04/21 6:55:20 PM
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SwiggitySwoogit posted...
Your ignorance is astounding. The fact that there have been no consequences and nothing has really changed for something that could've easily gone much, much worse is a big part of why it's a big deal.

You guys are not comprehending what Im saying. I dont deal in theory, I deal with reality. In a perfect world, yes 1/6 SHOULD be the darkest day in US history.

In reality though, the majority dont care. It was swept under the rug and nothing was done. So no it isnt the darkest day in US history.

I hate MAGA. Im just saying call a spade a spade. Dont say its the darkest day in US history when literally nobody is doing anything to fix what happened that day.

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Medussa
06/04/21 6:58:36 PM
#154:


that makes no sense. "it can't be that bad because we didn't acknowledge that it was bad"

no fucking shit. the people responsible are the ones saying it wasn't a big deal. that doesn't make them right, it makes them culpable.

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What_
06/04/21 6:59:16 PM
#155:


MrDrMan posted...
You guys are not comprehending what Im saying. I dont deal in theory, I deal with reality. In a perfect world, yes 1/6 SHOULD be the darkest day in US history.

In reality though, the majority dont care. It was swept under the rug and nothing was done. So no it isnt the darkest day in US history.

I hate MAGA. Im just saying call a spade a spade. Dont say its the darkest day in US history when literally nobody is doing anything to fix what happened that day.

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brestugo
06/04/21 7:09:30 PM
#156:


MrDrMan posted...
You guys are not comprehending what Im saying. I dont deal in theory, I deal with reality. In a perfect world, yes 1/6 SHOULD be the darkest day in US history.

In reality though, the majority dont care. It was swept under the rug and nothing was done. So no it isnt the darkest day in US history.

I hate MAGA. Im just saying call a spade a spade. Dont say its the darkest day in US history when literally nobody is doing anything to fix what happened that day.


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theDean
06/04/21 7:19:17 PM
#157:


Do some of the people in this topic even know what 9/11 was
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ButteryMales
06/04/21 7:24:33 PM
#158:


theDean posted...
Do some of the people in this topic even know what 9/11 was
Is this a precursor to "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams"?
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MrDrMan
06/04/21 7:28:11 PM
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Medussa posted...
that makes no sense. "it can't be that bad because we didn't acknowledge that it was bad"

no fucking shit. the people responsible are the ones saying it wasn't a big deal. that doesn't make them right, it makes them culpable.

I think the confusion is that Im answering the topic title as literal as possible. Do people think that 1/6 is the darkest day? No, the general population doesnt. No, its not going to go down in history books.

Now if TC is just asking like what is our opinion, then yes. The level of corruption and negligence from a US President should be a massive deal. It should be in history books but it wont. I said that earlier.

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Atralis
06/04/21 7:28:13 PM
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theDean posted...
Do some of the people in this topic even know what 9/11 was

This. I was disgusted by what happened on 1/6 but on 9/11 we had planes being rammed into the tallest skyscrapers in America, which then collapsed killing untold thousands in the middle of New York city while the pentagon got hit, and then another plane went down. The biggest city in America was covered in smoke and ash and the US was raging ready to go to war...... and we did go to war. For decades.

This happened in an era when the US felt like we were on top of the world and the biggest thing in the news was Britney Spears and random bullshit.
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Medussa
06/04/21 7:30:14 PM
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ooohhhhh. yeah, i can see that.

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theDean
06/04/21 7:31:06 PM
#163:


ButteryMales posted...
Is this a precursor to "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams"?
Lmao no im just saying, the comparison is ludicrous on its face. I cant even believe were having a debate over it. Its like asking if a flash flood in your back yard was as bad as hurricane katrina.
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theDean
06/04/21 7:31:56 PM
#164:


Atralis posted...
This. I was disgusted by what happened on 1/6 but on 9/11 we had planes being rammed into the tallest skyscrapers in America, which then collapsed killing untold thousands in the middle of New York city while the pentagon got hit, and then another plane went down. The biggest city in America was covered in smoke and ash and the US was raging ready to go to war...... and we did go to war. For decades.

This happened in an era when the US felt like we were on top of the world and the biggest thing in the news was Britney Spears and random bullshit.
Well said, and again, sad and laughable that it needed to be
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ButteryMales
06/04/21 7:32:57 PM
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Atralis posted...
This. I was disgusted by what happened on 1/6 but on 9/11 we had planes being rammed into buildings, which then collapsed killing untold thousands in the middle of New York city while the pentagon got hit, and then another plane went down. The biggest city in America was covered in smoke and ash and the US was raging ready to go to war...... and we did go to war. For decades.

This happened in an era when the US felt like we were on top of the world and the biggest thing in the news was Britney Spears and random bullshit.
I for one feel the way people seem to not give a shit about how many died Jan 7th makes it darker.

Almost everyone cares about 9/11.
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Zeeak4444
06/04/21 7:34:27 PM
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theDean posted...

no one cares what a shit alt who probably supported the shit has to say.

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Heineken14
06/04/21 7:37:12 PM
#167:


MrDrMan posted...
No, its not going to go down in history books.


If you don't think a literal president inciting a violent insurrection based off of his lies of voter fraud aren't going to go down in history books, you're insane.
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theDean
06/04/21 7:39:34 PM
#168:


Yea its definitely going down in the history books, and will likely be viewed as the culmination of 4 years of wildly irresponsible rhetoric by the sitting president. Really this entire period between 2016-2020ish will be studied with immense scrutiny, particularly as we get some distance from it and people start to feel liberated to assess it honestly.
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Atralis
06/04/21 7:40:09 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
I for one feel the way people seem to not give a shit about how many died Jan 7th makes it darker.

Almost everyone cares about 9/11.

I agree that from a perspective of political norms and mob rule in politics 1/6 was incredibly disturbing but exactly one person died violently in the whole riot. Maybe we will look back and say 'this is where it started' in a dark way but as of now I can't look at it and think that it was comparable to 9/11 or even a lot of mass shootings.
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ButteryMales
06/04/21 7:42:35 PM
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Atralis posted...
I agree that from a perspective of political norms and mob rule in politics 1/6 was incredibly disturbing but exactly one person died violently in the whole riot. Maybe we will look back and say 'this is where it started' in a dark way but as of now I can't look at it and think that it was comparable to 9/11 or even a lot of mass shootings.
Jan 7th wasn't a typo. Look at my earlier posts.

I shouldn't have taken the post #100 slot. No one reads posts divisible by 50.
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theDean
06/04/21 7:43:20 PM
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Guys again, like jesus christ, does no one remember this shit? The insistence here that 1/6 was worse because it was a rejection of democratic norms is just so asinine. Am i literally the only one who remembers what happened 20 fucking minutes ago lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr0i6piW_ak

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ButteryMales
06/04/21 7:45:18 PM
#172:


Who actually claimed 1/6 was worse than 9/11?
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gamer167
06/04/21 7:51:03 PM
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No, darkest day in the last few years maybe.
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MrDrMan
06/04/21 8:05:42 PM
#174:


Heineken14 posted...
If you don't think a literal president inciting a violent insurrection based off of his lies of voter fraud aren't going to go down in history books, you're insane.


My point is complaining about a corrupt government then trusting said government to properly educate people on it is foolish.

When I say history books I mean literal history books. Like no way do I have faith in the public schools throughout the US to teach kids about this. State of Texas banned talking about white supremacy or white privilege. This country doesnt address internal problems it sweeps them under the rug.

Maybe Im being too literal because every post is being misinterpreted.

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hockeybub89
06/04/21 8:06:55 PM
#175:


theDean posted...
Guys again, like jesus christ, does no one remember this shit? The insistence here that 1/6 was worse because it was a rejection of democratic norms is just so asinine. Am i literally the only one who remembers what happened 20 fucking minutes ago lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr0i6piW_ak
Why are you posting a video of a random riot that is nothing like literally storming the Capitol to overturn an election?

You might as well have posted any sports riot and asked what the difference is.

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LightHawKnight
06/04/21 8:20:01 PM
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It is sad how many people gloss over the insurrection. Do they even realize that it makes voting literally useless? There is no point when Republicans can riot to try to make their leader win even though he lost fairly. To waste time and money on useless audits and recounts. To shove through flatly evil voter suppression and people are fucking fine with that. The fuck is wrong with people? Our literal future is at stake and they dont give a shit.

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hockeybub89
06/04/21 8:20:54 PM
#177:


LightHawKnight posted...
It is sad how many people gloss over the insurrection. Do they even realize that it makes voting literally useless? There is no point when Republicans can riot to try to make their leader win even though he lost fairly. To waste time and money on useless audits and recounts. To shove through flatly evil voter suppression and people are fucking fine with that. The fuck is wrong with people? Our literal future is at stake and they dont give a shit.
Yeah, but some SJWs yelled at the sky 4 years ago, so BOTH SIDES

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ButteryMales
06/04/21 8:26:30 PM
#178:


hockeybub89 posted...
Why are you posting a video of a random riot that is nothing like literally storming the Capitol to overturn an election?

You might as well have posted any sports riot and asked what the difference is.
I think that's Trump's 2016 inauguration. Basically a really dumb BoThSiDeS that's really not comparable.

LightHawKnight posted...
It is sad how many people gloss over the insurrection. Do they even realize that it makes voting literally useless? There is no point when Republicans can riot to try to make their leader win even though he lost fairly. To waste time and money on useless audits and recounts. To shove through flatly evil voter suppression and people are fucking fine with that. The fuck is wrong with people? Our literal future is at stake and they dont give a shit.
If the alt-right rumor is true that a Vice President can call an election illegitimate and each state gets a vote then this is only possible when the President and VP are Republicans.
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LightHawKnight
06/04/21 8:28:01 PM
#179:


ButteryMales posted...
If the alt-right rumor is true that a Vice President can call an election illegitimate and each state gets a vote then this is only possible when the President and VP are Republicans.

What does that have to do with their stupid ballot recounts and audits and massive voter suppression?

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theDean
06/04/21 8:29:37 PM
#180:


hockeybub89 posted...
Why are you posting a video of a random riot that is nothing like literally storming the Capitol to overturn an election?

You might as well have posted any sports riot and asked what the difference is.
Bruh, violent mob attempting to overturn an election.
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06/04/21 8:29:56 PM
#181:


Machete posted...
This

Nobody really believes this right? WTF? Sandy hook for example???

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06/04/21 8:31:09 PM
#182:


Tyranthraxus posted...
9/11, pearl harbor, and JFK were all bad but didn't nearly kill the democracy of the country.

Jesus...neither did this. 9/11 didn't 'nearly kill democracy' it just killed MANY PEOPLE. This is ridiculous. A bunch of people threw a tantrum and you're acting like its comparable to the loss of so many lives????

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LightHawKnight
06/04/21 8:32:59 PM
#183:


HHH is the game posted...
Jesus...neither did this. 9/11 didn't 'nearly kill democracy' it just killed MANY PEOPLE. This is ridiculous. A bunch of people threw a tantrum and you're acting like its comparable to the loss of so many lives????

Just a tantrum that is destroying whats left of our democracy to the point where it is basically pointless to vote due to all the cheating one side is doing. If we just want to talk about what killed the most americans, lets talk Covid and how horribly it was handled and still is with assholes that refuse to social distance or wear a mask, or get the vaccine.

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What_
06/04/21 8:33:32 PM
#184:


HHH is the game posted...
Jesus...neither did this. 9/11 didn't 'nearly kill democracy' it just killed MANY PEOPLE. This is ridiculous. A bunch of people threw a tantrum and you're acting like its comparable to the loss of so many lives????

literally defending terrorism
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ButteryMales
06/04/21 8:34:01 PM
#185:


HHH is the game posted...
Nobody really believes this right? WTF? Sandy hook for example???
I'm getting tired of this darkest day "prom queen" election.

Yeah, 1/6 is darker than Sandy Hook.
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06/04/21 8:35:30 PM
#186:


The idea of 1/6 being in the same league as 9/11 or even Sandy Hook is ridiculous. Im not 'defending terrorism'. I said a bunch of people. threw a tantrum. It was embarrassing. It wasn't tragic or scary. It was on the same level as the riots over the summer, with the exception that it was encouraged by a president which is embarrassing like Trump's whole reign.

The people calling it a dark day in American history are not living in reality.

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hockeybub89
06/04/21 8:35:38 PM
#187:


HHH is the game posted...
Jesus...neither did this. 9/11 didn't 'nearly kill democracy' it just killed MANY PEOPLE. This is ridiculous. A bunch of people threw a tantrum and you're acting like its comparable to the loss of so many lives????
You're right. It has the potential to have much worse fallout than 9/11.

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Tyranthraxus
06/04/21 8:36:18 PM
#188:


If body count is all that fucking matters then just know that more people have been dying daily from covid-19 in January than died in 9/11 and that while all that was happening the sitting president's priority was on trying to make states forge election records to back up his illegitimate claims of fraud.

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COVxy
06/04/21 8:37:10 PM
#189:


HHH is the game posted...
The idea of 1/6 being in the same league as 9/11 or even Sandy Hook is ridiculous. Im not 'defending terrorism'. I said a bunch of people. threw a tantrum. It was embarrassing. It wasn't tragic or scary. It was on the same level as the riots over the summer, with the exception that it was encouraged by a president which is embarrassing like Trump's whole reign.

The people calling it a dark day in American history are not living in reality.

Yea, a sitting US president trying to violently overthrow the government to maintain rule is nbd.

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06/04/21 8:37:51 PM
#190:


Tyranthraxus posted...
If body count is all that fucking matters then just know that more people have been dying daily from covid-19 in January than died in 9/11 and that while all that was happening the sitting president's priority was on trying to make states forge election records to back up his illegitimate claims of fraud.

What does this have to do with anything? Yes, covid is actually a very dark thing in history. Trump is awful and a terrible president. But that doesn't make the 1/6 thing a dark day. It was just an embarrassing tantrum of Trump supporters.

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ButteryMales
06/04/21 8:37:59 PM
#191:


I still stand by that the darkest day had no deaths directly connected with it.
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06/04/21 8:38:25 PM
#192:


COVxy posted...
Yea, a sitting US president trying to violently overthrow the government to maintain rule is nbd.

There was zero chance at all of this happening

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Tyranthraxus
06/04/21 8:38:54 PM
#193:


There's no point in arguing with someone who insists on calling a terrorist attack on the capitol "a tantrum"

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TheVipaGTS
06/04/21 8:40:25 PM
#194:


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There was zero chance at all of this happening
Right. But that doesnt change that over 70 million Americans want it to happen and there are sitting Congress members who supported it happening. There are other ramifications. Well it didnt work so its done with is such a juvenile argument and its blissfully ignorant to the reality of what happened.

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06/04/21 8:40:49 PM
#195:


I guess when I think of terrorism I think of mass murder or something, which this was not. I feel like its a riot at worst.

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AlphaCuck
06/04/21 8:41:12 PM
#196:


nascar fans aren't terrorists

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hockeybub89
06/04/21 8:41:49 PM
#197:


HHH is the game posted...
What does this have to do with anything? Yes, covid is actually a very dark thing in history. Trump is awful and a terrible president. But that doesn't make the 1/6 thing a dark day. It was just an embarrassing tantrum of Trump supporters.
And they are only gaining in power and number. The Democrats do not seem to properly recognize the threat. The very existence is at risk if the GOP basically ever gains power again. You can say goodbye to freedom if you had the misfortune to be born in a way that offends Republicans.

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06/04/21 8:41:54 PM
#198:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Right. But that doesnt change that over 70 million Americans want it to happen and there are sitting Congress members who supported it happening. There are other ramifications. Well it didnt work so its done with is such a juvenile argument and its blissfully ignorant to the reality of what happened.

I understand this, I'm just saying the event itself was not this horrible tragedy.

People remember where they were when they found out about 9/11 to this day, everybody who was alive then remembers. It drastically changed the world and country for years afterwards.

Nobody is going to think back of the traumatic experience of finding out about 1/6. Its not even on the same level. Its just crazy to compare them at all.

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TheVipaGTS
06/04/21 8:42:48 PM
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I guess when I think of terrorism I think of mass murder or something, which this was not. I feel like its a riot at worst.
They attempted mass murder. They wanted to harm politicians. Just because they failed doesnt make them any less terrorists. And before you say no they didnt, they were chanting about murdering people. But I guess they were just pretending and we shouldnt take it seriously because you say so.

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hockeybub89
06/04/21 8:42:51 PM
#200:


AlphaCuck posted...
nascar fans aren't terrorists
If I attempted to overthrow the government because I didn't like who won the legal election, I would be.

Are incompetent, bumbling Muslim terrorists not terrorists if they blow themselves up accidentally in their house?

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06/04/21 8:45:29 PM
#201:


TheVipaGTS posted...
They attempted mass murder. They wanted to harm politicians. Just because they failed doesnt make them any less terrorists. And before you say no they didnt, they were chanting about murdering people. But I guess they were just pretending and we shouldnt take it seriously because you say so.

Then why didn't they murder anybody?

Still even if they wanted to, there are many people who wanted to murder people in US history and SUCCEEDED so I think those would be the darker days

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LightHawKnight
06/04/21 8:46:15 PM
#202:


TheVipaGTS posted...
They attempted mass murder. They wanted to harm politicians. Just because they failed doesnt make them any less terrorists. And before you say no they didnt, they were chanting about murdering people. But I guess they were just pretending and we shouldnt take it seriously because you say so.

Apparently he never watched any of the footage of people literally chanting HANG MIKE PENCE! Or the footage of Michael Fanone pleading for his life as the mob was trying to kill him. Or how close the mob actually got to politicians if not for Eugene Goodman. Or all the footage and photos of republicans showing support for all of it.

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