Current Events > Do people actually truly believe 1/6 was the darkest day in US History

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Xethuminra
06/05/21 1:11:25 PM
#253:


theDean posted...
if theyre on the side of violence, intimidation, or making excuses for same and refusing to address it plainly for what it is, those people are not the good guys.
Wrong

Sometimes the good guys gotta be violent and threatening.

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legendary_zell
06/05/21 1:22:57 PM
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theDean posted...
First of all the way youre both using peaceful in these statements completely and utterly robs the word of its meaning. You could replace the word peaceful with the word bookshelf and these statements would hold the same level of factual accuracy.

Second, again, we spent 4 years watching a large chunk of the left leaning population drag the entire nation into bookshelf civil unrest because they refused to honor - i.e. wanted to overturn - the 2016 election results. I refuse to be gaslit on this point. I was alive, I was there, I have functioning eyes and ears.

To any and all points about the bookshelf civil unrest being in the name of the greater righteousness of ending racism and police brutality: I saw footage of a group of people beating the shit out of a defenseless old man and cracking his head open with a fucking brick because he was holding an American flag. Those people, inside their confused minds, were absolutely convinced of their own righteousness. They believed themselves to be on the front lines in the fight against racism, fascism, tyranny, whatever. I dont give one single fuck about what someone says they are, if theyre on the side of violence, intimidation, or making excuses for same and refusing to address it plainly for what it is, those people are not the good guys. And im sorry to say, if you want to maintain this mentality of protect the narrative at all costs, then you are not the good guys either, sorry. i yield my time.

There were thousands of protests all over the country, almost entirely peaceful. I know because I went to one here in DC and there wasn't a single hint of violence at any point. In the midst of those, there were some riots in some places. But most places had entirely peaceful protests and even where it got violent, the vast majority of the protests were peaceful before and after the rioting.

A small subset of people doing objectively bad things doesn't invalidate the larger point being made by millions across the country. If all or even a large fraction of those people were actually violent, cities would have burned in the way conservatives pretend that they did. Contrast that with people doing bad things like setting bombs, setting up gallows, assaulting capitol police, and attempting to break into the areas where legislators were hiding, all for a 100% objective lie and to set up fascism.

As to the 4 years before the insurrection, you have clearly been propagandized. People though Trump was doing horrible things, destroying the country. What they did in response to that was vote him and his party out. No one attempted to overturn the election results, that's what we saw on 1/6. What you saw was people protesting family separation, unmarked federal police abducting people in the streets, etc.


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theDean
06/05/21 1:56:44 PM
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theDean
06/05/21 1:58:16 PM
#256:


Wait nvm i get it now, were obviously the good guys so its different. My bad yall u got me.
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06/05/21 2:02:19 PM
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Yes, lots of people were peacefully protesting the police, just like lots of conservatives peacefully protest too. There were numerous riots/looting/arson though also, just like there was one conservative riot too. All are bad. All were dark days. None are darker than any other, and none were close to as dark as 9/11. The one difference in the capital riot is that it was supported by a president, and that is why Trump is the worst, because Biden rightfully spoke against the liberal riots

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legendary_zell
06/05/21 2:05:22 PM
#258:


theDean posted...
Wait nvm i get it now, were obviously the good guys so its different. My bad yall u got me.

One was during an election swearing in ceremony where they tried to break in and interrupt the certification of an election. They got inside the capitol and started searching for the vice president and lawmakers with zip ties.

These are completely different scenarios and that's been explained every which way. One is a run of the mill riot, another is an insurrection. I don't know how else to say it. If I showed you a video of a random soldier being sniped during a war and the JFK assassination or Reagan being shot, would you say those are equally bad?

You have clearly been indoctrinated into a right wing frame of reference in which you've been watching riot compilation videos and been taught that rioters sought the end of western civilization or something.

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hockeybub89
06/05/21 2:09:59 PM
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I'm sure @theDean would shrug his shoulders if BLM protesters stormed the Capitol and called for the hanging of every Republican politician.

"It's no different than any other protest"

You're acting as if people are lumping in like Right to Life protests and shit with the insurrection and saying that any right-wing protest is terrorism

This topic was about a specific event and your argument is "Well if you lump all police brutality/BLM protests together, they had violence just like 1/6. What's the difference?"

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theDean
06/05/21 2:30:05 PM
#261:


hockeybub89 posted...
I'm sure @theDean would shrug his shoulders if BLM protesters stormed the Capitol and called for the hanging of every Republican politician.

"It's no different than any other protest"

You're acting as if people are lumping in like Right to Life protests and shit with the insurrection and saying that any right-wing protest is terrorism

This topic was about a specific event and your argument is "Well if you lump all police brutality/BLM protests together, they had violence just like 1/6. What's the difference?"
Actually, this topic is about the darkest days of US history, and I fail to see how the nation being engulfed in largely peaceful violence last summer doesnt pass muster for analysis. Regardless, Ive consistently been making a distinction between protests and acts of ideological mob violence, both of those events having been the latter. By the same token you wont find me arguing the same point over, say, the million man march, because that was a protest that was actually literally mostly peaceful. Not weird, double-speak, we must protect the narrative, bookshelf civil unrest. Like actually legitimately mostly peaceful. Words mean things.

I took down that video comparison between 1/6 and the bookshelf Trump protests because tbqh I think the combination of posting violent images while simultaneously criticizing the left will get me booted here. But if you want to objectively take stock over what were arguing over, please feel free to delve deeply enough into youtube to find the videos that the algorithms have been designed to hide from you.

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Xethuminra
06/05/21 2:31:12 PM
#262:


Change occurs from within.

Anything else is revolution.
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legendary_zell
06/05/21 2:46:48 PM
#263:


theDean posted...
Actually, this topic is about the darkest days of US history, and I fail to see how the nation being engulfed in largely peaceful violence last summer doesnt pass muster for analysis. Regardless, Ive consistently been making a distinction between protests and acts of ideological mob violence, both of those events having been the latter. By the same token you wont find me arguing the same point over, say, the million man march, because that was a protest that was actually literally mostly peaceful. Not weird, double-speak, we must protect the narrative, bookshelf civil unrest. Like actually legitimately mostly peaceful. Words mean things.

I took down that video comparison between 1/6 and the bookshelf Trump protests because tbqh I think the combination of posting violent images while simultaneously criticizing the left will get me booted here. But if you want to objectively take stock over what were arguing over, please feel free to delve deeply enough into youtube to find the videos that the algorithms have been designed to hide from you.


Now you're just posting conservative conspiracy shit and victim complex signaling. At first I assumed you were coming from a place of openness, but now I see that you just came here to attack the left.

You hit almost every buzzword on the conservative bingo sheet. Ignoring direct refutations of your arguments, asserting that you'll be censored, accusing others of being trapped in narratives, hyperfocusing on the left while minimizing anything the right does, asserting that others have been blinded by the media, etc.

At the end of the day, a bunch of fascists tried to storm the Capitol and install Trump as dictator for life, at his direction, killing democracy in the process or sparking a civil war. You can compare police brutality sparked riots and looting to that all you want, but they are fundamentally not the same thing.

One was sparked by police brutality (as evidenced by the fact that they don't tend to happen when the police don't kill anyone). The other happened in response to an election result that fascists didn't like. One will embolden people to keep trying to end democracy, the other won't.

You can deflect to the evil evil lefists and their lamestream media all you want but it won't make these events equal.

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/05/21 2:49:46 PM
#264:


Xethuminra posted...
Change occurs from within.

Anything else is revolution.

Climate Revolution sounds kinda cool

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LightHawKnight
06/05/21 3:02:20 PM
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It is a sad day when insane racist Q people are common.

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Xethuminra
06/05/21 3:04:56 PM
#266:


LightHawKnight posted...

Official Odin has spoken
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DarthAragorn
06/05/21 3:05:05 PM
#267:


LightHawKnight posted...
It is a sad day when insane racist Q people are common.
And this is why 1/6 is so fucking dark

Like 9/11, I was only 7 but I'm pretty sure you didn't have the majority of any group of Americans supporting that

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Davos
06/05/21 3:58:36 PM
#268:


WTF this thread.
Since the mods have cleaned up the sewer that was the LAAG board seems all the crap has washed up here.
Two fucking boards gone for the shit they wrote about 6/1 and now they're doing it here.

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TDean
06/05/21 4:01:04 PM
#269:


I got banned for this discussion. Someone feel free to tell me which part broke the TOS? Yet I have delusions of censorship by gamefaqs for criticisms of the left?

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Funkydog
06/05/21 4:02:48 PM
#270:


Davos posted...
WTF this thread.
Since the mods have cleaned up the sewer that was the LAAG board seems all the crap has washed up here.
Two fucking boards gone for the shit they wrote about 6/1 and now they're doing it here.
For real. And they have the nerve to come down harsh on anyone speaking about how poorly they deal with the shit stains.

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DarthAragorn
06/05/21 4:03:00 PM
#271:


TDean posted...
I got banned for this discussion. Someone feel free to tell me which part broke the TOS? Yet I have delusions of censorship by gamefaqs for criticisms of the left?
Outright lying about domestic terrorism perhaps

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Davos
06/05/21 4:16:04 PM
#273:


TDean posted...
Bullshit wheres the fucking
TDean posted...
Bullshit wheres the fucking lie.

Lying about 6/1
About what it was.
Deliberate and willful misinformation.about an attempted coup.
That's the lie.
And everybody is fucking sick of you people doing it repeatdly.

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Medussa
06/05/21 4:16:35 PM
#274:


Davos posted...


And everybody is fucking sick of you people doing it repeatdly.

if only

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TDean
06/05/21 4:18:21 PM
#275:


The hypocrisy of this is fucking sickening i cant believe people reason this way seriously. This is like so unspeakably disgusting to me.

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DarthAragorn
06/05/21 4:20:07 PM
#276:


Medussa posted...
if only
Everybody with a brain at least

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Funkydog
06/05/21 4:20:17 PM
#277:


TDean posted...
The hypocrisy of this is fucking sickening i cant believe people reason this way seriously. This is like so unspeakably disgusting to me.
Can you just close your account to save time with being banned?

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Rexdragon125
06/05/21 4:21:07 PM
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Still waiting on evidence that the dems stole the election and a coup was necessary. Oh wait Trump's legal team tried it in court and failed ~50 times

All you republicans have to go on is spite
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FarFromFields
06/05/21 4:21:32 PM
#280:


theDean posted...
Actually, this topic is about the darkest days of US history, and I fail to see how the nation being engulfed in largely peaceful violence last summer doesnt pass muster for analysis. Regardless, Ive consistently been making a distinction between protests and acts of ideological mob violence, both of those events having been the latter. By the same token you wont find me arguing the same point over, say, the million man march, because that was a protest that was actually literally mostly peaceful. Not weird, double-speak, we must protect the narrative, bookshelf civil unrest. Like actually legitimately mostly peaceful. Words mean things.

I took down that video comparison between 1/6 and the bookshelf Trump protests because tbqh I think the combination of posting violent images while simultaneously criticizing the left will get me booted here. But if you want to objectively take stock over what were arguing over, please feel free to delve deeply enough into youtube to find the videos that the algorithms have been designed to hide from you.
Shut the fuck up

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MC_BatCommander
06/05/21 4:21:53 PM
#281:


TDean posted...
The hypocrisy of this is fucking sickening i cant believe people reason this way seriously. This is like so unspeakably disgusting to me.

I'm sorry that your handwaiving of the terrorist attack was deleted from the board

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Davos
06/05/21 4:22:03 PM
#282:


TDean posted...
The hypocrisy of this is fucking sickening i cant believe people reason this way seriously. This is like so unspeakably disgusting to me.

Poor little MAGA coup apologist thinks he's been hard done by huh?
Yeah I think.not.

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Medussa
06/05/21 4:22:53 PM
#283:


They're not doing it because they're stupid. It's the same same thing both sides bullshit they always do to pretend that everyone else is just as awful as they are.

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TDean
06/05/21 4:25:06 PM
#284:


MC_BatCommander posted...
I'm sorry that your handwaiving of the terrorist attack was deleted from the board
What handwaving ive been consistently condemning it as an act of ideologically driven mob violence. EVEN IN THE POST I WAS MODDED FOR.

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hockeybub89
06/05/21 4:25:11 PM
#285:


TDean posted...
I got banned for this discussion. Someone feel free to tell me which part broke the TOS? Yet I have delusions of censorship by gamefaqs for criticisms of the left?
This website is such a Far-Left safe space that white supremacists and QAnoners don't get axed and anti-trans topics pop up every day.

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Davos
06/05/21 4:27:47 PM
#287:


hockeybub89 posted...
This website is such a Far-Left safe space that white supremacists and QAnoners don't get axed and anti-trans topics pop up every day.

I mean this guy literally got banned for posts in this topic
And here he is shitting it up again with a new account.
Goddamn man this place sucks sometimes.

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TDean
06/05/21 4:30:27 PM
#288:


Whatever the rational among you must clearly see that nothing ive said here is in violation of the tos, and the reason i got axed is because anything short of a full throated condemnation of donald trump and 1/6 as the second coming of adolf hitler and the beer hall putsch simply cannot be allowed to stand on this board. This is a symptom of the exact sort of narrow minded, dogmatic, suffocating orwellian bullshit level headed people scream at you about, and all you do is condemn them as racists, neo nazis, qanon, whatever. Like this would be laughable if it wasnt indicative of something so utterly reprehensible. Goodbye.

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hockeybub89
06/05/21 4:30:50 PM
#289:


No one has even said the riots were peaceful, so I don't know why that's always a big talking point of this board's right. It's so stupid to compare a single insurrection to something vague like "the unrest last year" and think you're making some gotcha that exposes the hypocritical left or whoever we're shrieking about.

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Davos
06/05/21 4:33:37 PM
#290:


TDean posted...
Whatever the rational among you must clearly see that nothing ive said here is in violation of the tos, and the reason i got axed is because anything short of a full throated condemnation of donald trump and 1/6 as the second coming of adolf hitler and the beer hall putsch simply cannot be allowed to stand on this board. This is a symptom of the exact sort of narrow minded, dogmatic, suffocating orwellian bullshit level headed people scream at you about, and all you do is condemn them as racists, neo nazis, qanon, whatever. Like this would be laughable if it wasnt indicative of something so utterly reprehensible. Goodbye.

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Rexdragon125
06/05/21 4:33:49 PM
#291:


TDean posted...
Whatever the rational among you must clearly see that nothing ive said here is in violation of the tos, and the reason i got axed is because anything short of a full throated condemnation of donald trump and 1/6 as the second coming of adolf hitler and the beer hall putsch simply cannot be allowed to stand on this board. This is a symptom of the exact sort of narrow minded, dogmatic, suffocating orwellian bullshit level headed people scream at you about, and all you do is condemn them as racists, neo nazis, qanon, whatever. Like this would be laughable if it wasnt indicative of something so utterly reprehensible. Goodbye.

Maybe we're right

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Thaumaturge
06/05/21 4:34:13 PM
#292:


It isn't. 9/3/1783 is the darkest day in US history. We'd have been better off if the US never gained independence.
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Perascamin
06/05/21 4:34:36 PM
#294:


WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
No it isn't the darkest day in American history. But it is a pretty dark day in American History.
Not really more people were injured or killed in the Kenosha riots.

Oh no the politicians were exposed as being vulnerable to WE THE PEOPLE

Edit: Even though those people were absolutely nuts

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Arcanine2009
06/05/21 4:34:40 PM
#295:


The Popo posted...
Possibly the darkest day since 9/11

But 1/6 is insignificant compared to the Civil War and everything it entailed
since 9/11? I dunno about that

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legendary_zell
06/05/21 4:36:50 PM
#296:


TDean posted...
Whatever the rational among you must clearly see that nothing ive said here is in violation of the tos, and the reason i got axed is because anything short of a full throated condemnation of donald trump and 1/6 as the second coming of adolf hitler and the beer hall putsch simply cannot be allowed to stand on this board. This is a symptom of the exact sort of narrow minded, dogmatic, suffocating orwellian bullshit level headed people scream at you about, and all you do is condemn them as racists, neo nazis, qanon, whatever. Like this would be laughable if it wasnt indicative of something so utterly reprehensible. Goodbye.

Go to Voat or Parler or Stormfront or 8chan if you find it so suffocating here. You are by no stretch of the imagination level headed. The way you've argued in this topic is indistinguishable from any of those places I listed.

I don't know why you guys are always deluded into thinking you alone occupy the rational center but these mean old lefties demand that you declare allegiance to Mao or you're racist or whatever. I know I'm a lefty and don't pretend otherwise, that's just one difference between you and me.


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MC_BatCommander
06/05/21 4:37:01 PM
#297:


TDean posted...
This is a symptom of the exact sort of narrow minded, dogmatic, suffocating orwellian bullshit level headed people scream at you about,

You're so oppressed

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joe40001
06/05/21 4:37:42 PM
#298:


Honestly, I don't think I'm touching this topic

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DarthAragorn
06/05/21 4:38:15 PM
#299:


joe40001 posted...
Honestly, I don't think I'm touching this topic
Hmm I wonder why

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Medussa
06/05/21 4:38:58 PM
#300:


joe40001 posted...
Honestly, I don't think I'm touching this topic

Promise?

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Xethuminra
06/05/21 4:39:37 PM
#301:


Medussa posted...
Promise?
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ScazarMeltex
06/05/21 4:43:22 PM
#302:


TDean posted...
Whatever the rational among you must clearly see that nothing ive said here is in violation of the tos, and the reason i got axed is because anything short of a full throated condemnation of donald trump and 1/6 as the second coming of adolf hitler and the beer hall putsch simply cannot be allowed to stand on this board. This is a symptom of the exact sort of narrow minded, dogmatic, suffocating orwellian bullshit level headed people scream at you about, and all you do is condemn them as racists, neo nazis, qanon, whatever. Like this would be laughable if it wasnt indicative of something so utterly reprehensible. Goodbye.
Maybe don't Stan fascists?

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legendary_zell
06/05/21 4:50:00 PM
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Posters who rant about the left all the time and deflect to the left in topics about the right are definitely rational, good faith posters. That's the lesson I've learned over my years on the internet, yesiree.

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