Poll of the Day > Dad DUMPS 80,000 PENNIES on his TEEN DAUGHTER'S Lawn for 18 years of HELL!!!

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A Virginia Father, who is not identified has made his FINAL child support payment to his ex-wife and to his 18 y/o estranged daughter, Avery Sanford as he dropped it off in front of their LAWN with 80,000 PENNIES as he said it was 18 years of HELL and FRUSTRATION raising her!!

He is seen on security footage in front of the Glen Allen home with a trailer before dumping the pennies of which he owed $800 in child support

A woman can be heard asking "What are you dropping my yard?" as the man says "It's your last child support payment"

He gets into the van and drives away as the woman says "Are you serious?"

Avery was in school at the time at Deep Run High School as she was not amused and said "It's not just my mom he's trying to embarrass, it's also me and my sister and it's upsetting that he ddin't consider that before he did that. It's really hurtful and damaging to your kids when you do things like that. It doesn't matter if they're young or an adult, the action of your parents will always have some effect on you"

Avery is gearing up for graduation and attending Virginia Tech this september and didn't need this embarrassment

Her mom called -50 and Lt. Matt Pecka said it was a domestic related incident and found the pennies in front of the house which did add up to 80,000 pennies

The father did not want to be on camera but said in a phone interview he let the emotions get the best of him and dumped the pennies because of 18 years of built up frustration that his estranged daughter put him through but now regrets it and doesn't want to put more distance between him and her any longer..of which this did just that.

Avery said she hasn't spoken to her dad in years and has no interest in having a relationship with someone who would disrespect her mother like that.

Instead, she used today's experience as a good thing and gathered up all those pennies and DONATED it to a domestic violence shelter in Safe Harbour.

Safe Harbour saw a surge in donations because of the story and can't thank them enough.

Avery says she doesn't need his money anymore because she has a job lined up for the summer and can make her own way and not have to rely on someone that doesn't care about her anyway

Do you think the Dad is a Jerk?

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total piece of shit

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What a dick, they should charge him for littering.

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I don't really get this story. The girl says he publicly embarrassed her by doing this but it's not his house/camera right? So if this got made public then isn't that on her mom? Just sounds like typical ex wife/husband drama to me. Also, duckbear being duckbear as usual altered the story to make it seem like the father hates his daughter. Duckbear posted this in the article:

The father did not want to be on camera but said in a phone interview he let the emotions get the best of him and dumped the pennies because of 18 years of built up frustration that his estranged daughter put him through but now regrets it and doesn't want to put more distance between him and her any longer..of which this did just that.

But at the actual source it is:

The father, who was not named in the article, reportedly admitted to dumping the coins. He attributed his actions to 18 years of frustration, saying that his emotions got the best of him, according to the local news outlet. The last thing he wanted was to create another wedge between him and his daughter, he said.

Stay classy duckbear.

those two bolded parts mean literally the exact same thing

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Didn't we hear about this story like 2-3 months ago?

I could of swore some random dude brought a fuck ton of pennies as a payment for child support back then.

Monopoman posted...

Didn't we hear about this story like 2-3 months ago?

I could of swore some random dude brought a fuck ton of pennies as a payment for child support back then.

I know there was a story of a car repair shop owner paying his employees last check in thousands of pennies coated in oil

the fucker literally claimed that he couldnt remember if he had done it or not, as if it were totally within the realm of possibility for him to plan and do something so meticulously petty while on autopilot

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Monopoman posted...

Didn't we hear about this story like 2-3 months ago?

I could of swore some random dude brought a fuck ton of pennies as a payment for child support back then.

It happens fairly frequently that somebody that's bitter about having to make a payment of some sort makes it in pennies to spite the recipient. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a completely different story. It also wouldn't surprise me if Duckbear also reported on it.

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helIy posted...

those two bolded parts mean literally the exact same thing

No, they don't actually. There's a pretty big difference between talking shit about your daughter and not talking shit about your daughter.

he didn't talk shit about his daughter in either of them, so i have no idea where you got that idea from


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helIy posted...

those two bolded parts mean literally the exact same thing

No, they don't. Ducky's version claims that his daughter was the source of the frustration ("because of 18 years of built up frustration that his estranged daughter put him through"). The real drama seems to be with the ex-wife.

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Zeus posted...

No, they don't. Ducky's version claims that his daughter was the source of the frustration ("because of 18 years of built up frustration that his estranged daughter put him through"). The real drama seems to be with the ex-wife.

you mean exactly what a "wedge" means in this context?

yeah.

they both mean the exact same thing.

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helIy posted...

he didn't talk shit about his daughter in either of them, so i have no idea where you got that idea from

I don't know why anyone would ever defend duckbears trolling of all things but if you legit can't see the difference between blaming his actions on his daughter and not blaming his actions on his daughter then I really don't know what to tell you.

helIy posted...

you mean exactly what a "wedge" means in this context?

I'd assume the "wedge" isn't "my daughter is a pain in the ass" but "I'm divorced from her mom so that might give her complicated feelings about our relationship". So actually a bit different.

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I can't come up with any possible reason a man would find it appropriate to do this to his child and then try to act like he isn't a piece of shit.

BlackScythe0 posted...

I can't come up with any possible reason a man would find it appropriate to do this to his child and then try to act like he isn't a piece of shit.

You don't pay child support to kids. You pay it to the moms. I don't know the specifics of the situation. Maybe the guy is a piece of shit? Or maybe not? Some guys get really fucked in divorce settlements and you really can't blame them for being bitter at their exs. Or maybe he's just a scumbag that is angry for no reason. Clearly the old "here's what I owe in pennies" thing is petty but who knows what drove him to that.

The daughter hasn't seen him in years and seems to have a really negative view of him.
Sounds like the ex-wife is a jerk and possibly committed parental alienation by saying a bunch of shit about him to color the daughter's opinion.
Just speculation b/c we don't have the full story, but...

Grischnak posted...

I don't really get this story. The girl says he publicly embarrassed her by doing this but it's not his house/camera right? So if this got made public then isn't that on her mom?

I also noticed that. It was her home camera footage. He didn't make her release it to the public. Her mom is the one that publicly embarrassed her.
And why'd she call the cops? What crime did he commit? It's a jerk thing to do it that way, but he delivered her payment to her.
Mom just looks really bad in this, and I can see it driving him to the edge after all those years.

You have to be a special kind of asshole to get a mom to single handedly take care of a kid for years instead of having joint custody. Him acting out in such a petty way proves it.

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PK_Spam posted...

You have to be a special kind of asshole to get a mom to single handedly take care of a kid for years instead of having joint custody

as the offspring of a special kind of asshole, yes

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helIy posted...

you mean exactly what a "wedge" means in this context?

yeah.

they both mean the exact same thing.

...what? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you not understand a wedge is? Or do you not understand the general concept of context?

BlackScythe0 posted...

I can't come up with any possible reason a man would find it appropriate to do this to his child and then try to act like he isn't a piece of shit.

...he didn't do it to his child. That money was going to the ex-wife. That's how child support works. It doesn't get handed to the child. I think you should know something this basic. What did you think they do? That the father gives the money directly to the kid? What if the kid is 5 years old?

streamofthesky posted...

I also noticed that. It was her home camera footage. He didn't make her release it to the public. Her mom is the one that publicly embarrassed her.
And why'd she call the cops? What crime did he commit? It's a jerk thing to do it that way, but he delivered her payment to her.
Mom just looks really bad in this, and I can see it driving him to the edge after all those years.

Basically this. It's a nasty spat between the ex-wife and the father, where the daughter has probably been repeatedly hurt as a result.

PK_Spam posted... You have to be a special kind of asshole to get a mom to single handedly take care of a kid for years instead of having joint custody.

No, you absolutely don't, and that's a special kind of stupid remark. The courts overwhelmingly favor women in custody cases. If it was the guy who had custody, THEN that would be something. Because just about the only way a mom loses custody is if she's leaving marks when she's abusing her kids or her substance abuses are so glaring that even a judge sides with the father. Custody is always an uphill battle for men.

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Grischnak posted...

You don't pay child support to kids. You pay it to the moms.

And, in turn, it's used to support the kids. Yes, the payment went to the mom, but there's really no way the kid isn't going to see this behaviour and think her dad doesn't resent supporting her, regardless of whether his intent was to spite her or her mother.

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Man if that was me, he'd have activated my trap card: actually dad I love it.

PK_Spam posted...

You have to be a special kind of asshole to get a mom to single handedly take care of a kid for years instead of having joint custody. Him acting out in such a petty way proves it.

It's definitely not always that cut and dry. In many cases, parents will fight for sole custody just to try and spite the other parent

adjl posted...

Yes, the payment went to the mom, but there's really no way the kid isn't going to see this behaviour and think her dad doesn't resent supporting her, regardless of whether his intent was to spite her or her mother.

As a child of divorced parents, I didn't really see it that way. I saw my dad struggling with money and my mom being tough on him about it. I love my mother but I had a stepfather. Having a stepfather with decent income, it seemed pretty petty to me as a kid seeing her trying to demand money out of him when he was clearly struggling

adjl posted...

And, in turn, it's used to support the kids. Yes, the payment went to the mom, but there's really no way the kid isn't going to see this behaviour and think her dad doesn't resent supporting her, regardless of whether his intent was to spite her or her mother.

Lets not forget the "kid" is 18 now. She's not like a 10 year old or something. She should have the cognitive ability to understand the nuance of the situation.

Grischnak posted...

Lets not forget the "kid" is 18 now. She's not like a 10 year old or something. She should have the cognitive ability to understand the nuance of the situation.

wow dude congrats on having such a twisted and dumb view of the situation and successfully posting it on potd

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OhhhJa posted...

As a child of divorced parents, I didn't really see it that way. I saw my dad struggling with money and my mom being tough on him about it. I love my mother but I had a stepfather. Having a stepfather with decent income, it seemed pretty petty to me as a kid seeing her trying to demand money out of him when he was clearly struggling

I felt the same way as a kid and really resented my mom about it

as a kid you really dont know the full picture of what is happening though. my dad ended up moving across the country and spending several years basically in hiding just to avoid paying child support and taxes along with hosts of other debts, all while he supported another family and his own alcoholism. I think theres something about being a boy and having blind spots when it comes to your own father though. Took me a long time to realize that even though I like the guy and enjoy talking to him every now and then, he is an abysmal father and an even worse husband to them women he has married or lived with over the years.

I dont know the situation you had, but another perspective could be that your mom shouldnt be expected to rely on or pressure her new partner to entirely financially support her son that she had with an ex. Theres already enough tension and often resentment in households with stepparents.

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Mead posted...

wow dude congrats on having such a twisted and dumb view of the situation and successfully posting it on potd

A twisted view? As in not falling for duckbears bait and keeping an open mind about the situation? So. Twisted.

Mead posted...

I felt the same way as a kid and really resented my mom about it

as a kid you really dont know the full picture of what is happening though. my dad ended up moving across the country and spending several years basically in hiding just to avoid paying child support and taxes along with hosts of other debts, all while he supported another family and his own alcoholism. I think theres something about being a boy and having blind spots when it comes to your own father though. Took me a long time to realize that even though I like the guy and enjoy talking to him every now and then, he is an abysmal father and an even worse husband to them women he has married or lived with over the years.

I dont know the situation you had, but another perspective could be that your mom shouldnt be expected to rely on or pressure her new partner to entirely financially support her son that she had with an ex. Theres already enough tension and often resentment in households with stepparents.

Oh, I'm totally aware of my dad not being perfect. Most of his problems were self inflicted. I've been aware of it since I was young. He had serious alcohol and drug problems and even got so bad off as to shoot up in front of me in my teen years and also offered me hard drugs. I always turned them down. But my mom was unfaithful and also a semi alcoholic so ehhh.

At least my dad is a rare case of getting off heroin and completely sober. Not before it destroyed his liver though. He's in and out of the hospital these days and probably only has a few years left unless he can get a new liver

Not the worst "I'm Finally Off Child Support" celebration I've ever heard of. Dads who pay child support do stuff like this all the time. It's not classy, but if you're in a situation where you have to pay child support, your life wasn't very classy to begin with.

Also, you don't have to absolutely shit the bed as a father to not get to see your kids. You can do your best but still fail. That's where this kind of spite tends to come from.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

Dads who pay child support do stuff like this all the time. It's not classy, but if you're in a situation where you have to pay child support, your life wasn't very classy to begin with

What a stupid statement.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

That's where this kind of spite tends to come from.

People with that kind of spite are not trying their best

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Did he really need a truck bed thingy for those pennies?


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Mead posted...

People with that kind of spite are not trying their best

That kind of spite only comes after trying their best. Are you saying that if you try your best, but fail, and then get angry that your efforts weren't enough, you somehow didn't try your best? Not every court or mother in the land is fair.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

That kind of spite only comes after trying their best. Are you saying that if you try your best, but fail, and then get angry that your efforts weren't enough, you somehow didn't try your best? Not every court or mother in the land is fair.

Maybe it comes from trying their best. Maybe they were in that situation because of their actions in the first place.

I personally think doing something so public the child can see isn't something a normal person does to get back at their ex.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Maybe it comes from trying their best. Maybe they were in that situation because of their actions in the first place.

I personally think doing something so public the child can see isn't something a normal person does to get back at their ex.

How do you get back at your ex?

You gotta understand, plenty of parents get cheated by a system that is easily rooked. To lose your child for any reason is maddening. For it to get to petty spite is kinda the best case scenario. A lot of parents just kill themselves/others over losing their kids. It breaks you.

So how broken do you think a parent would be to lose their child, but also for unfair reasons? How angry are you allowed to be at that?

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Maybe it comes from trying their best. Maybe they were in that situation because of their actions in the first place.

I personally think doing something so public the child can see isn't something a normal person does to get back at their ex.

As far as "crazy ex shit" goes, this is actually really quite tame. The reality is, there are scumbag fathers out there. Absolutely. A lot of them. But there's also some scumbag moms out there too. What this guy did was petty and doesn't make him come off good. But the mom going to the news and making this a national story is also quite petty and doesn't make her come off very good either. It's real easy to pick a side and just declare that side right but we really don't know enough in this situation to conclude the guy is scum and the mom is some angel.

Obviously somethings happened for him to do that they dont sound too innocent

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Years ago some guy tried to pay his taxes in the same way, and the government wouldn't accept them and made him pick them all up.

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HYPERMECHA posted...

Years ago some guy tried to pay his taxes in the same way, and the government wouldn't accept them and made him pick them all up.

Pennies are legal tender so illegal to not accept.
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

Are you saying that if you try your best, but fail, and then get angry that your efforts weren't enough, you somehow didn't try your best?

correct, cause you stopped trying after a failure and are now just being childish

trying your best doesnt guarantee that everything works out and anyone can say that they are trying their best but that isnt something that can be objectively measured

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Revelation34 posted...

Pennies are legal tender so illegal to not accept.

it isnt illegal to refuse to accept pennies just dumped or just a large amount of loose pennies

you can tell someone that they need to be put in rolls first

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Sounds like the daughter is more mature and compassionate then her dad.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

How do you get back at your ex?

You gotta understand, plenty of parents get cheated by a system that is easily rooked. To lose your child for any reason is maddening. For it to get to petty spite is kinda the best case scenario. A lot of parents just kill themselves/others over losing their kids. It breaks you.

So how broken do you think a parent would be to lose their child, but also for unfair reasons? How angry are you allowed to be at that?

So you think its alright to take it out on your kid, just because you're bitter at your ex? That's some grade a reasoning right there.

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Grischnak posted...

As far as "crazy ex shit" goes, this is actually really quite tame. The reality is, there are scumbag fathers out there. Absolutely. A lot of them. But there's also some scumbag moms out there too. What this guy did was petty and doesn't make him come off good. But the mom going to the news and making this a national story is also quite petty and doesn't make her come off very good either. It's real easy to pick a side and just declare that side right but we really don't know enough in this situation to conclude the guy is scum and the mom is some angel.

That's true.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

So you think its alright to take it out on your kid, just because you're bitter at your ex? That's some grade a reasoning right there.

He took it out on the ex, though.
The mom is the one receiving the payment, that has to deal w/ the annoying way he paid.
He doesn't give the money directly to the daughter.

streamofthesky posted...

He took it out on the ex, though.
The mom is the one receiving the payment, that has to deal w/ the annoying way he paid.
He doesn't give the money directly to the daughter.

The payment is for the kid. Thats why it's called childhood support and not ex spouse support.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

The payment is for the kid. Thats why it's called childhood support and not ex spouse support.

And the kid got the $800.
The mom got the headache of collecting it as 80,000 pennies.

I heard this story on the radio

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

The payment is for the kid. Thats why it's called childhood support and not ex spouse support.

The payment is supposed to be for the kid. Oftentimes it does support the ex more than the child, unless it's an outrageous tiny amount.

ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

It's not classy, but if you're in a situation where you have to pay child support, your life wasn't very classy to begin with.

ITP: "You're not classy if you've been divorced." >_>

Even if you somehow argue "well, it's his fault for picking her!" (which it could be, since oftentimes there are warning signs), people *can* and do change. And if one partner is doing something egregious (cheating on them, substance abuse, domestic violence, etc), the other partner shouldn't be compelled to try to just make the best of it for appearance's sake. That's just stupid.

adjl posted...

And, in turn, it's used to support the kids. Yes, the payment went to the mom, but there's really no way the kid isn't going to see this behaviour and think her dad doesn't resent supporting her, regardless of whether his intent was to spite her or her mother.

Conjecture. Every time a mom and dad fight, kids don't automatically assume they're the cause.

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