Board 8 > Rank the Tracks Week 19: Janelle Monae's The ArchAndroid (+ Hamilton results)

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CasanovaZelos
07/11/21 11:49:53 AM
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Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, July 18 at 8:00 AM EST - though if you are for whatever reason listening to the album around that time, just say so in the topic and I can delay a bit
7. You can sign up to be added to a user cycle for after we finish the queue; once we get through the last planned album, the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).
7c. The order of the user cycle will be randomly determined, but users will first be sorted into tiers by how many of their nominations have been covered during the early nominations period.

Janelle Monae's The ArchAndroid track list:
1. Suite II Overture
2. Dance or Die
3. Faster
4. Locked Inside
5. Sir Greendown
6. Cold War
7. Tightrope
8. Neon Gumbo
9. Oh, Maker
10. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
11. Mushrooms & Roses
12. Suite III Overture
13. Neon Valley Street
14. Make the Bus
15. Wondaland
16. 57821
17. Say You'll Go
18. BabopbyeYa

Schedule:
7/18: The Strokes - Is This It (MoogleKupo141)
7/25: Fiona Apple - Fetch the Bolt Cutters (CasanovaZelos)
8/1: Massive Attack - Mezzanine (Giggsalot)
8/8: The Killers - Hot Fuss (Seanchan)
8/15: Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five (jcgamer107)
8/22: Air - Moon Safari (ZaziGuado)
8/29: The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced (Johnbobb)
9/5: Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine (Steiner)
9/12: The Knife - Silent Shout (CasanovaZelos)
9/19: Billy Joel - The Stranger (Seanchan)
9/26: Spice Girls - Spice (SpikeSetsFire)
10/3: Iron Maiden - Powerslave (TheArkOfTurus)
10/10: Rancid - ...And Out Come the Wolves (Snake5555555555)
10/17: OutKast - Aquemini (Giggsalot)
10/24: Of Monsters and Men - Beneath the Skin (Jesse_Custer)
10/31: Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Snake5555555555)
11/7: The Avalanches - Since I Left You (SpikeSetsFire)
11/14: Moby - Play (SpikeSetsFire)
11/21: Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill (Seginustemple)

User Cycle sign-ups:
11/28: MetalmindStats
12/5: TheArkOfTurus
12/12: Snake5555555555
12/19: Jesse_Custer
12/26: ZaziGuado
1/2: SpikeSetsFire
1/9: Johnbobb
1/16: VeryInsane
1/23: CasanovaZelos
1/30: Seanchan
2/6: Giggsalot
2/13: RyoCaliente
2/20: darkx
2/27: neonreaper

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CasanovaZelos
07/11/21 11:53:01 AM
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Hamilton results

The participants:
CasanovaZelos
Cybat
expaniol
Great_Paul
jcgamer107
Johnbobb
MetalmindStats
neonreaper
Raetsel_Lapin
Seanchan
TheArkOfTurus
TomNook

General Album Comments

neonreaper: I've listened to this album quite a lot - it was my daughter's coping mechanism during the pandemic.

I feel like I won't have time to give the write-ups I'd really like to. My top 2 are pretty clearly my top 2. The next 6 are a bit more interchangeable. I can rely on my top 14 being my top 14, after that there are another handful of songs that are about the same, including the Cabinet Battles (they are great, perhaps I've heard them too many times), Burn and Aaron Burr, Sir. In general I think the second half has weaker songs, but still good stuff to enjoy if you're listening to it over and over. I think Hurricane needed to be a banger in terms of placement on the album, even if it's supposed to be more contemplative content-wise.

jcgamer107: Somewhat easy to pick my favorite 15, but difficult to sort them. Few musicals have such ample quality and quantity of songs.

Raetsel_Lapin: Too many good songs. Listened to this five times and my list has been almost completely different each time--my number one song us constant and the bottom six songs are always the bottom six, but besides that? I think everything in the top 32 has been near the top of the list at some point, but I have to stop eventually. I need a break, so this version of the list shall have to suffice.

Johnbobb: This was difficult, goddamn. Essentially any song featuring Daveed Diggs rapping got huge bonus points (maybe I'll nominate a clipping. album for this topic sometime) because he's by far the best rapping vocalist among the cast. Meanwhile, Phillipa Soo is easily the best traditional vocalist so any song with her gets some bonus points too. Some got dropped because there's like 30 reprises (if combined with You'll Be Back, King George's songs go way up).

Seanchan: You'll be surprised to find out that, yeah, Hamilton is pretty damn good! I started watching the recording on Disney+...but I haven't finished it yet (I'm about 2/3s through) as time has been limited this week. I then listened to the album on a long drive this morning.

I think it does a great disservice to only listen to the album. This is designed as a play, and while I think the album is very good, I think it loses a lot not being experienced in its original form. There's no costumes, no body language and faces, no audience reaction.

I feel like the first half seemed better than the second.

I'm not sure if this is a hot take or not but...is LMM possibly the weak link here, at least in terms of the singing? Not that he's bad, just that the actors playing Aaron Burr, Washington, the Schuyler sisters all are just tremendous talents.

King George might be my favorite part of the whole thing. Super, stupid catchy songs.

TomNook: Hamilton is such an amazing play for so many reasons. It's an incredible ability to take a history lesson and make it fascinating without even doing so in a purely dramatic tone, while injecting amazing music and making the characters colorful while still mostly fitting their real life, and none of it seems out of place.

It's a very hard albumn to rank, as I've gone through phases where certain songs are stuck in my head, and I just have this itch where I need to listen to that one over and over...and that applies to almost every single song at one point. And not only is it difficult to rank purely from an audio perspective, but if you factor in the story elements of each song, it's even harder, because some events feel like they should weigh more in a ranking. Some introduce or develope a particular character which makes the song feel more enjoyable, especially in the full context of the album. It's just a very hard thing to do.

Someone here already said they liked the first half better, and while I'd agree (I love the second half too though!), I think there is one obvious reason why: the female characters, while maybe not impactful much in the plot, are a super important part musically. I personally prefer their vocals, but regardless of that, they also act as a palate cleanse of sort, to keep the soundtrack mixed up. The single weakest stretch of the albumn is Room Where It Happened all the way to Hurricane. This is a 9 song stretch where you don't have a single non-ensemble female singing in any song, except for a short 15 second part of Eliza during Schuyler Defeated.

I could spend a couple hours if I wanted to write about each song extensive, but that's just a lot of work. Angelica and Eliza are typically the stars of most songs, which my Top 3 makes obvious. King George is hilarious, and while I like the 2 reprises, the first one is still by far the best. Thomas Jefferson is such a troll, and his trolling is at its best during the first Cabinet Battle, which was one of the hypest moments of the play.

MetalmindStats: Like others, I found Hamilton quite a difficult album to rank (excepting my locked-in top and bottom spots) - and while its sheer quantity and intentional repetition undoubtedly has something to do with that, so too does its sheer quality. Hamilton often shifts tones at the drop of a hat, rather necessarily for an album of its length, and I feel it tends to ace integrating the changes into the whole. That sort of harmonious syncretism suffuses the entire effort narratively and visually, too; I might even argue it's what Hamilton's artistically all about. Speaking of visuals, it's weird to listen to Hamilton without accompanying depictions of the action - usually via animatic videos (which I highly recommend) in my case, though its physicality on stage adds another dimension. It's a change that harms some songs more than others, but it doesn't really sink any, let alone the album as a whole. I could write much more about Hamilton, and in fact I have privately, but this doesn't feel like the place for a short essay's worth of thoughts.

Seanchan (responding to TomNook): That's a great point about the women! And you're absolutely right how their great (and different) voices add to the total composition. Agree with your other character points as well, though I have to say Burr is great as well, especially when he gets to sing. I'll reiterate that I think Hamilton himself is likely the weakest part; his acting, emoting, and rapping are well done but his singing voice is lesser (for me) than most of the rest of the cast.

It was only on my second watch that I realized that there were quite a few actors who doubled (or more) up on characters...

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CasanovaZelos
07/11/21 12:05:50 PM
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Hamilton track ranking

46 (10-way tie). Farmer Refuted, A Winter's Ball, That Would Be Enough, History Has Its Eyes On You, What Comes Next?, Schuyler Defeated, The Adams Administration, We Know, Stay Alive (Reprise), Best of Wives and Best of Women
Score: 0
Biggest Fan(s): none

36. Cabinet Battle #2 (Track #30)
Score: 1
Biggest Fan(s): expaniol (#15)

34 (tie). The Story of Tonight (Reprise) (Track #12)
Score: 2
Biggest Fan(s): Great_Paul (#14)

34 (tie). I Know Him (Track #33)
Score: 2
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#14)

33. Aaron Burr, Sir (Track #2)
Score: 3
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#13)

32. Stay Alive (Track #14)
Score: 6
Biggest Fan(s): expaniol (#11)

jcgamer107: I'm a general: WEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee

31. Say No to This (Track #27)
Score: 8
Biggest Fan(s): Cybat (#12)

29 (tie). The Story of Tonight (Track #4)
Score: 11
Biggest Fan(s): Great_Paul (#5)

29 (tie). Blow Us All Away (Track #39)
Score: 11
Biggest Fan(s): jcgamer107 (#5)

jcgamer107: Love the foreshadowing here as the song calls back frequently to 'Ten Duel Commandments', and the piano dissonance that further hints something bad's about to go down

28. One Last Time (Track #32)
Score: 15
Biggest Fan(s): jcgamer107 (#4)

jcgamer107: A powerful and bittersweet sendoff

27. Meet Me Inside (Track #16)
Score: 19
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#4)

26. The Reynolds Pamphlet (Track #37)
Score: 21
Biggest Fan(s): Cybat (#7)

25. Cabinet Battle #1 (Track #25)
Score: 22
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb, TomNook (#7)

24. Take a Break (Track #26)
Score: 23
Biggest Fan(s): TomNook (#3)

23. The Election of 1800 (Track #42)
Score: 25
Biggest Fan(s): Great_Paul (#6)

jcgamer107: Essentially a reprise of "Washington On Your Side", but with more impact on the story as it brings the Burr/Hamilton rivalry to a head. The ensemble also really shines.

21 (tie). Dear Theodosia (Track #22)
Score: 28
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#2)

21 (tie). The World Was Wide Enough (Track #45)
Score: 28
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#1)

19 (tie). Hurricane (Track #36)
Score: 30
Biggest Fan(s): jcgamer107 (#2)

jcgamer107: Captures the "me vs the world" mindset of Hamilton from the opening chord

19 (tie). Your Obedient Servant (Track #43)
Score: 30
Biggest Fan(s): jcgamer107 (#1)

jcgamer107: This track has incredible replay value in my opinion. I love the style whiplash, between the dignified strings & harpsichord that are more of that era (to match the almost comedically formal way Burr and Hamilton signed their letters to each other in real life) and the dark hip-hop beat that plays as they really start digging into each other.

18. Washington On Your Side (Track #31)
Score: 34
Biggest Fan(s): Great_Paul (#4)

jcgamer107: Daveed again spitting mad fire, over a beat that's more in the pocket than the frantic Act 1 raps

17. It's Quiet Uptown (Track #41)
Score: 37
Biggest Fan(s): expaniol, MetalmindStats (#5)

16. What'd I Miss (Track #24)
Score: 38
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#1)

15. Ten Duel Commandments (Track #15)
Score: 45
Biggest Fan(s): Great_Paul (#3)

neonreaper: Clever and fun, it's an essential Hamilton song.

14. Guns and Ships (Track #18)
Score: 46
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#4)

13. The Schuyler Sisters (Track #5)
Score: 53
Biggest Fan(s): TomNook (#2)

12. Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story (Track #46)
Score: 57
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb, expaniol (#3)

11. Right Hand Man (Track #8)
Score: 59
Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper (#3)

neonreaper: I found this easy to enjoy and has a lot of staying power.

jcgamer107: The first of many great war raps in Act 1

10. Burn (Track #38)
Score: 62
Biggest Fan(s): TheArkOfTurus, expaniol, TomNook (#6)

9. Helpless (Track #10)
Score: 65
Biggest Fan(s): expaniol (#2)

neonreaper: This song gets stuck in my head more than I care to admit haha.

8. Alexander Hamilton (Track #1)
Score: 66
Biggest Fan(s): Cybat (#4)

7. Yorktown (The World Turned Upside Down) (Track #20)
Score: 69
Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper (#2)

neonreaper: This song is in credibly hype. Following Guns and Ships, and History Has Its Eyes On You, this song is a nice catharsis and so easy to enjoy.

jcgamer107: Major chills once they got to this one in the live show. An huge exclamation point to cap off the war section.

6. The Room Where It Happens (Track #28)
Score: 72
Biggest Fan(s): MetalmindStats (#2)

4 (tie). My Shot (Track #3)
Score: 83
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#3)

neonreaper: I've seen LMM discuss this being the most difficult song to perform, and he did it this way so the rest of the play would feel easier.

4 (tie). You'll Be Back (Track #7)
Score: 83
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#1)

jcgamer107: Stupidly catchy

3. Non-Stop (Track #23)
Score: 103
Biggest Fan(s): TheArkOfTurus, expaniol (#1)

2. Wait for It (Track #13)
Score: 133
Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper, Great_Paul, MetalmindStats (#1)

neonreaper: Leslie Odom kills it, and it's impressive on stage as well. Here is Burr telling you exactly what he's all about.

jcgamer107: This here number is the one that won Leslie the Tony

1. Satisfied (Track #11)
Score: 134
Biggest Fan(s): CasanovaZelos, Cybat, TomNook (#1)

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CasanovaZelos
07/11/21 12:10:30 PM
#4:


Now that we have an album in a nebulous zone, I think this is how I am going to handle albums with longer track lists. For albums with 16-20 songs, I am going to ask everyone to rank everything so I can still share the Biggest Detractor and Average Rank section. However, anything ranked below 15 will be given 0 points like the longer albums. With 21 tracks or more, I will do what I did for The Wall and Hamilton, only requiring people to share their top 15 (and, unfortunately, cutting the Detractor and Average Rank section).

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TheArkOfTurus
07/11/21 2:06:19 PM
#5:


1. Cold War
2. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
3. Faster
4. Tightrope
5. BaBopByeYa
6. Dance or Die
7. Mushrooms & Roses
8. Oh, Maker
9. Locked Inside
10. Neon Valley Street
11. 57821
12. Wondaland
13. Say You'll Go
14. Sir Greendown
15. Suite II Overture
16. Suite III Overture
17. Make the Bus
18. Neon Gumbo


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TomNook
07/11/21 4:31:31 PM
#6:


Wow, a 1 point difference between #1 and #2. That is crazy considering there were 46 tracks to choose from.

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Johnbobb
07/11/21 5:30:32 PM
#7:


Satisfied as #1 surprises me. It's a track I liked at first but liked less and less on future listens. The vocals are great, but lyrically it just kinda compresses Angelica into a character whose entire characterization is just that she's obsessively in love with Hamilton

It also took a hit from me after learning Angelica Schuyler was already married before even meeting Hamilton so the whole thing was made up.

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ChainLTTP
07/11/21 5:39:24 PM
#8:


Anything but Cold War at #1 is just plain wrong
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Seanchan
07/11/21 5:43:45 PM
#9:


First listen started off really positive. Love the upbeat, dancy, funky stuff. Then the 2nd half felt like a different album.

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CasanovaZelos
07/11/21 6:54:20 PM
#10:


Seanchan posted...
First listen started off really positive. Love the upbeat, dancy, funky stuff. Then the 2nd half felt like a different album.


It essentially is, I guess? Her previous album is Suite I, while the two halves here are Suite II and III.

However, the wide range here is what makes me love this album. It feels genuinely epic while playing with genres that rarely aim for that status.

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Seanchan
07/11/21 9:33:14 PM
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Yeah, I gathered that after the fact about the suites. It was so weird though. The first half I was really digging. Was giving me some Jamiroquai vibes (might not be the best comparison but it's what I know...) Then the second half at points sounds like a movie soundtrack or something like that. Not bad per se, just, not what I was expecting/looking for.

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CasanovaZelos
07/12/21 9:41:40 AM
#12:


Doing Hamilton makes me want to do Hadestown sometime

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neonreaper
07/12/21 12:30:04 PM
#13:


Neon Valley Street
Cold War
Faster
Locked Inside
Oh, Maker
Wondaland
Dance or Die
Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
Make the Bus
Tightrope
Sir Greendown
57821
Mushrooms & Roses
BaBopByeYa
Say You'll Go
Suite II Overture
Suite III Overture
Neon Gumbo

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CasanovaZelos
07/13/21 12:04:44 PM
#14:


bump

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CasanovaZelos
07/14/21 12:03:00 AM
#15:


up

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neonreaper
07/14/21 1:23:35 PM
#16:


Up

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CasanovaZelos
07/14/21 5:18:45 PM
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I need to get around to this...

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Johnbobb
07/14/21 9:08:57 PM
#18:


First listen done, definitely wasn't what I thought it was going to be

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CasanovaZelos
07/15/21 9:34:22 AM
#19:


bump

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SpikeSetsFire
07/15/21 11:29:33 AM
#20:


This is another one of those occasions where I really appreciate this topic series.
I'd never heard of Janelle Monae before. What a terrific album!

The first 30 seconds of Oh, Maker, in particular, are just beautiful.
The bass kicking-in and her voice. Wow.

1. Oh, Maker
2. Suite III Overture
3. Locked Inside
4. Faster
5. Neon Valley Street
6. Suite II Overture
7. Wondaland
8. Sir Greendown
9. 57821
10. Make the Bus
11. Tightrope
12. Cold War
13. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
14. Mushrooms & Roses
15. BabopbyeYa
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16. Say You'll Go
17. Neon Gumbo
18. Dance or Die


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SpikeSetsFire
07/15/21 11:57:26 AM
#21:


Side note... Bohemian Rhapsody just dropped on Netflix Japan an hour ago.
Watching it now for the first time. Absolutely loving it so far!


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CasanovaZelos
07/15/21 4:14:41 PM
#22:


My rank:
1. Tightrope
2. Cold War
3. Locked Inside
4. Oh, Maker
5. Dance or Die
6. BabopbyeYa
7. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
8. 57821
9. Wondaland
10. Mushrooms & Roses
11. Faster
12. Say You'll Go
13. Neon Valley Street
14. Suite II Overture
15. Suite III Overture
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16. Make the Bus
17. Sir Greendown
18. Neon Gumbo


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ChainLTTP
07/15/21 4:16:43 PM
#23:


SpikeSetsFire posted...
Side note... Bohemian Rhapsody just dropped on Netflix Japan an hour ago.
Watching it now for the first time. Absolutely loving it so far!
That is surprising considering it's the worst movie of all time
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CasanovaZelos
07/15/21 4:24:22 PM
#24:


Yeah, I really despised Bohemian Rhapsody. Simply atrocious editing. It's the worst sort of musical biopic, oversimplifying so much of the story in a lot of ways that rubbed me the wrong way. I certainly think 'worst movie of all time' is an exaggeration, but it exists in the place of something that could have been good if handled better.

It's weird that I find the replacement director's follow-up, Rocketman, to be legitimately great. Even while it still stumbles over many of the biopic cliches, the presentation is absolutely top-notch.

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Jesse_Custer
07/15/21 4:36:40 PM
#25:


CasanovaZelos posted...
It's weird that I find the replacement director's follow-up, Rocketman, to be legitimately great. Even while it still stumbles over many of the biopic cliches, the presentation is absolutely top-notch.

I also vastly preferred Rocketman. Not only was the script far superior, but it had a lot of great musical numbers with fantastic choreography.
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Raetsel_Lapin
07/15/21 6:14:24 PM
#26:


1: Locked Inside
2: Neon Valley Street
3: Oh, Maker
4: Neon Gumbo
5: Make the Bus
6: Dance or Die
7: Mushrooms & Roses
8: 57821
9: Suite III Overture
10: Cold War
11: Wondaland
12: Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
13: BaBopByeYa
14: Say You'll Go
15: Faster

16: Tightrope
17: Sir Greendown
18: Suite II Overture

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Johnbobb
07/15/21 7:03:06 PM
#27:


I liked Bohemian Rhapsody but less so on multiple watches. Ramo Malek alone makes it worth watching, and I loved it in pieces, but also didn't care for the simplification of the story and particularly the weirdly fake solo drama (fun fact, Freddie Mercury was the third member of Queen to get a solo album)

Also agree that Rocketman was significantly better

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ChainLTTP
07/15/21 7:46:36 PM
#28:


CasanovaZelos posted...
It's weird that I find the replacement director's follow-up, Rocketman, to be legitimately great. Even while it still stumbles over many of the biopic cliches, the presentation is absolutely top-notch.
I actually agree with this completely. Really makes me want a totally avant garde David Bowie biopic.

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ChainLTTP
07/15/21 7:47:09 PM
#29:


Johnbobb posted...
Ramo Malek alone makes it worth watching,
He was lip syncing
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Johnbobb
07/15/21 8:25:00 PM
#30:


ChainLTTP posted...
He was lip syncing
I am aware of this

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ChainLTTP
07/15/21 8:59:43 PM
#31:


Johnbobb posted...
I am aware of this
Then what makes his performance noteworthy at all?
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SpikeSetsFire
07/16/21 4:57:14 AM
#32:


Finished Bohemian Rhapsody.
Worst movie ever is a bit harsh. Lol.
I enjoyed it. But, like others have said, Rocket Man was much better.

Are there any other good biopics out there?
I vaguely remember seeing part of one of the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson denying he was writing songs about drugs.


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LiquidOshawott
07/16/21 5:14:37 AM
#33:


I kinda like Walk Hard as a guilty pleasure, movies funny

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ChainLTTP
07/16/21 8:43:28 AM
#34:


SpikeSetsFire posted...
Are there any other good biopics out there?
For music? Walk the Line and Straight Outta Compton are okay, though I don't think particularly amazing.
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neonreaper
07/16/21 8:56:01 AM
#35:


BH was fun but certainly covers a lot of ground while also try to play the hits. Like, oh Freddy is showing up late to rehearsal, the band is obviously feeling a little put off by that. We will we will rock you! I liked Malek as Freddie. It felt a lot like Queen was involved and wanted to look brilliant. Again, fun movie, I like Queen.


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Johnbobb
07/16/21 9:01:53 AM
#36:


ChainLTTP posted...
For music? Walk the Line and Straight Outta Compton
I'll second these and add in The Doors

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ChainLTTP
07/16/21 9:50:52 AM
#37:


The Doors is unique, I'll give it that
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CasanovaZelos
07/16/21 10:21:07 AM
#38:


Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story is an all-time great, but for very bizarre reasons

I've heard good things about Control (Ian Curtis of Joy Division) but still need to see it

Love and Mercy (Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys) is also apparently good

The connective tissue of these three being that the three people covered were seriously disturbed and thus going beyond the standard biopic fare. At least Brian Wilson is still around.

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CasanovaZelos
07/16/21 10:25:02 AM
#39:


While we're inexplicably discussing film, I want to bring up the fact that Janelle Monae has had minor roles in three multi-Oscar nominees (Moonlight, Hidden Figures, and...Harriet).

She's also going to be in Knives Out 2!

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Snake5555555555
07/16/21 12:08:49 PM
#40:


I don't think it totally counts as a biopic but Lords of Chaos is an interesting watch nonetheless.

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neonreaper
07/16/21 12:27:36 PM
#41:


Spinal Tap ofc

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CasanovaZelos
07/16/21 10:05:05 PM
#42:


Bump

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Seanchan
07/16/21 10:08:33 PM
#43:


Bump

Did a second listen. It's crazy how much I love Suite 2 and how indifferent I feel about Suite 3. At any rate though, I find Janelle to be enormously talented and need to listen to more of her stuff.

Will submit my rankings tomorrow sometime.

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HBJDubs
07/16/21 11:14:13 PM
#44:


finishing the backlog (skipping Hamilton until I watch the play):

Abbey Road - Here Comes The Sun is my #1, Because is biggest detraction (#10 on final, #3 on mine)
Achtung Baby - Zoo Station is my #1 and biggest detraction (#8 on final)

The ArchAndroid:

1. Cold War
2. Neon Valley Street
3. Faster
4. 57821
5. Dance Or Die
6. Say You'll Go
7. Mushrooms & Roses
8. Tightrope
9. Wondaland
10. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
11. Neon Gumbo
12. BabopbyeYa
13. Locked Inside
14. Suite III Overture
15. Oh, Maker
16. Suite II Overture
17. Sir Greendown
18. Make The Bus

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CasanovaZelos
07/17/21 12:43:14 PM
#45:


Final day

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Johnbobb
07/17/21 3:53:07 PM
#46:


  1. Faster
  2. Make the Bus - Why is everybody ranking this so low when it's an absolute banger? I need to nominate a St. Vincent album next time around because I could absolutely hear this being on MASSEDUCTION
  3. BabopbyeYa
  4. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
  5. Tightrope
  6. Dance or Die
  7. Locked Inside
  8. Wondaland
  9. Say You'll Go
  10. Cold War
  11. Mushrooms & Roses - Torn on this one, because I didn't really like the vocal distortion, but loved everything else about the song. Could've been a top 5er easy if edited differently
  12. Neon Valley Street
  13. Suite II Overture
  14. Oh, Maker
  15. 57821
  16. Neon Gumbo
  17. Suite III Overture
  18. Sir Greendown


This album was fucking incredible; WAY better than I expected going in. Transcends several different genres and somehow nails them all while still managing to be its own thing, and feel like one big cohesive package. Really all of my top 10 from this album were excellent, and even the worst songs on the album are still pretty solid.

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LiquidOshawott
07/17/21 3:54:15 PM
#47:


gonna post my ranking in a second, but I gotta say I liked it but not as much as Dirty Computer IMO

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rwlh
07/17/21 8:44:20 PM
#48:


First time participating in this, let me know if I did anything wrong!

  1. Cold War
  2. Tightrope
  3. Faster
  4. Suite III Overture
  5. Dance Or Die
  6. 57821
  7. Sir Greendown
  8. Make the Bus
  9. Say Youll Go
  10. Wondaland
  11. Neon Valley Street
  12. Oh, Maker
  13. Locked Inside
  14. BaBopBye Ya
  15. Come Alive (War of the Roses)
  16. Neon Gumbo
  17. Suite II Overture
  18. Mushrooms & Roses


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Seanchan
07/17/21 11:39:35 PM
#49:


  1. Faster
  2. Dance or Die
  3. Tightrope
  4. Come Alive (The War of the Roses)
  5. Locked Inside
  6. Cold War
  7. Oh, Maker
  8. Neon Valley Street
  9. BabopbyeYa
  10. Mushrooms & Roses
  11. Wondaland
  12. 57821
  13. Make the Bus
  14. Say You'll Go
  15. Sir Greendown
  16. Suite III Overture
  17. Suite II Overture
  18. Neon Gumbo
I'm going to echo everyone else's thoughts on how great this album is. Even though I'm much higher on Suite 2 than Suite 3 it's still an overall tremendous work. I had an inkling that I might like this based on hearing Tightrope in CasanovaZelos' Top 250 Song topic but I couldn't have imagined how much.

Kudos to whomever is responsible for this nomination!

I ended up listening to Suite 1 today (i.e. her first album, Metropolis: The Chase Suite). Didn't really do much for me, though it seems like maybe there's a certain amount of story that interweaves between the suites (heard mentions to Greendown and 57821). Going to need to listen to The Electric Lady and Dirty Computer at some point too.

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LiquidOshawott
07/17/21 11:47:19 PM
#50:


Oh, Maker
Tightrope
Cold War
Faster
Locked Inside
Say Youll Go
Dance or Die
Babopbyeya
Neon Valley Street
Come Alive
57281
Wondaland
Make the Bus
Mushrooms and Roses
Suite III
Suite II
Sir Greendown
Neon Gumbo

I forgot to make mine!

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