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Noraneko_Vel
07/26/21 12:21:14 PM
#401:


DarkRoast posted...
I noticed that a large percentage of enemies cannot be Venti'd in Inazuma. MiHoYo knows.

Yeah, Ayaka+Kokomi will likely be the new Venti.
Still plenty of garbage to be pulled though like slimes, treasure hoarders, churls.

For example the new electro/pyro samurai that basically show the middle finger to gravity pullers, but having Venti definitely helps keep the damn grenade throwing hoarders in the talent domain away from you.
I apply hydro, venti and send Ayaka's burst their way.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 12:35:10 PM
#402:


It's just the samurai that can't be venti'd. I think people underestimated how many enemies couldn't be venti'd before Inazuma.

  • Mitachurls
  • Lawachurls
  • Abyss Mages while the shield is up
  • Geovishap hatchlings & normal
  • Fatui Skirmishers
  • Ruin-anything
  • Hydro mimics
  • Anything that flies


Really the only things you can Venti are Hilichurls, Samachurls, treasure hoarders, slimes, and Fatui Agents. You can technically get whopper flowers too but those assholes have a habit of teleporting away just as you fire it off.

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DarkRoast
07/26/21 12:52:34 PM
#403:


To be fair, even if he can't CC someone, Venti is still arguably the best Sub DPS in the game, probably tied with Kazuha

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MegaCamerupt
07/26/21 1:36:41 PM
#404:


Tyranthraxus posted...


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's just the samurai that can't be venti'd. I think people underestimated how many enemies couldn't be venti'd before Inazuma.

* Mitachurls
* Lawachurls
* Abyss Mages while the shield is up
* Geovishap hatchlings & normal
* Fatui Skirmishers
* Ruin-anything
* Hydro mimics
* Anything that flies

Really the only things you can Venti are Hilichurls, Samachurls, treasure hoarders, slimes, and Fatui Agents. You can technically get whopper flowers too but those assholes have a habit of teleporting away just as you fire it off.
The Fatui Mirror Maiden can't be Venti'd as well, which is interesting because her Cryo and Electro Cicin Mage counterparts can be
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DarkRoast
07/26/21 1:59:45 PM
#405:


Gachas are a fucking dystopian nightmare

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 2:45:18 PM
#406:


MegaCamerupt posted...
The Fatui Mirror Maiden can't be Venti'd as well, which is interesting because her Cryo and Electro Cicin Mage counterparts can be

The mirror maiden seems to be rooted and can only move around through teleports. At least I haven't seen them walk

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 2:46:24 PM
#407:


Oh also Twitch prime rewards for Genshin.

https://gaming.amazon.com/loot/genshinimpact

If you have Amazon Prime, then you also have Twitch Prime.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 5:19:55 PM
#408:


This dude one shot Childe phase 2 with Ayaka / no reactions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/os26fm/what_a_level_80_f2p_c0_ayaka_with_the_craftable/

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meralonne
07/26/21 5:21:12 PM
#409:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Oh also Twitch prime rewards for Genshin.

https://gaming.amazon.com/loot/genshinimpact

If you have Amazon Prime, then you also have Twitch Prime.

I take it that you get this for free just for having Prime?

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 5:22:20 PM
#410:


meralonne posted...
I take it that you get this for free just for having Prime?
Yeah. If you have Amazon prime then log in with your Amazon account and you can redeem the code. Don't share it obviously. It's only valid once. You have to hurry to get the July bundle. Not sure it'll still be available in August.

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Irony
07/26/21 6:31:57 PM
#411:


Awww saw the end of Fate of a Fighter

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Noraneko_Vel
07/26/21 8:43:50 PM
#412:


Ayaka lv80, 8/6/8
Burst was ticking 8617 damage when I randomly checked, which is 176648 damage.
Charged attack was probably 4400 x3 or so.

Pretty sure I didn't shred resistances (Ayaka, Barbara, Klee, Keqing), didn't use Klee's C2 and I never use Bennett.

She's incredible, I just need to collect 40~ Sakura petals in two days and a buncha samurai fodder, I'll be lv90. Talents might take a while coz of mats, even if I have a lot of Ayaka scrolls stockpiled.

Tyranthraxus posted...
This dude one shot Childe phase 2 with Ayaka / no reactions.

Tartaglia has very low hp in each phase.
There's a video of someone messing up primo geovishap in 1 burst (though he had constellations)

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DarkRoast
07/26/21 9:01:01 PM
#413:


If you could choose any one of your characters to get a free C6, which would it be?

I would love to have a C6 Tartaglia and run him as a main DPS without having to micromanage his E.


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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 9:05:28 PM
#414:


Xiao, Eula, or Klee. Normally I'd pick someone like Childe but I already got him at C3 and I got Zhongli at C4.

I'd probably go with Eula though since she gets the most out of it.

C6 Klee is kinda nuts tho.

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Noraneko_Vel
07/26/21 9:18:12 PM
#415:


DarkRoast posted...
If you could choose any one of your characters to get a free C6, which would it be?
Klee's switch nuke and energy recovery are very hard to resist.
I'd probably choose Ganyu for instant Frostflakes though.

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Blue_Thunder
07/26/21 9:19:56 PM
#416:


DarkRoast posted...
If you could choose any one of your characters to get a free C6, which would it be?

Eula and Zhongli are the 5*s I use the most and are among my favorite chars so either of them.
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Irony
07/26/21 9:29:42 PM
#417:


DarkRoast posted...
If you could choose any one of your characters to get a free C6, which would it be?

I would love to have a C6 Tartaglia and run him as a main DPS without having to micromanage his E.
Eula easily

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DarkRoast
07/26/21 9:49:35 PM
#418:


Irony posted...
Eula easily

C6 Eula's Ult is basically a cheat code.

It makes Ganyu and Hu Tao look like C0 Noelle in healer gear

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ChrisTaka
07/26/21 10:40:58 PM
#419:


DarkRoast posted...
If you could choose any one of your characters to get a free C6, which would it be?

Eula or Ayaka

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DarkRoast
07/26/21 10:48:15 PM
#420:


BTW - I swear the Trounce bosses have more HP and damage than before

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 11:11:25 PM
#421:


Can someone explain how tf I'm supposed to get this oculus?



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DarkRoast
07/26/21 11:20:42 PM
#422:


If that's the one I'm thinking of, I cooked a dish that restores stamina and also ate one that cut stamina use by 25%

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 11:28:48 PM
#423:


DarkRoast posted...
If that's the one I'm thinking of, I cooked a dish that restores stamina and also ate one that cut stamina use by 25%

It's surrounded by overhang walls. There's not enough stamina to climb to it without the death zone killing me.

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DarkRoast
07/26/21 11:43:13 PM
#424:


There are sections you can switch between characters IIRC

Or you can glide from the city in the middle

Also I hate whoever made Chaos Oculi only drop from a handful of enemies with only five spawn locations

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Noraneko_Vel
07/27/21 1:19:38 AM
#425:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's surrounded by overhang walls. There's not enough stamina to climb to it without the death zone killing me.

Barbara easily outheals the environmental damage and reduces stamina costs.
I climbed and found a place to stand near the top, recovering my stamina and using Keqing's teleport right into the electrocolus

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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 1:26:58 AM
#426:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
Barbara easily outheals the environmental damage and reduces stamina costs.
I climbed and found a place to stand near the top, recovering my stamina and using Keqing's teleport right into the electrocolus

There's got to be a better way to do this. Maybe if I take Xiao I can double spear through the air and get really close.

Edit: got it with Xiao.

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Noraneko_Vel
07/27/21 1:28:26 AM
#427:


Tyranthraxus posted...
There's got to be a better way to do this

Maybe. Look for a way to get to it from above maybe, or by using Venti / the updraft gadget, or maybe there is some electrocolus grapple nearby.
I just got lucky my strategy worked for me, to be honest, I felt like I was missing some easier solution.

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chrono625
07/27/21 6:40:39 AM
#428:


Got my Ayaka currently at 80/80 5/4/6

Mistsplitter 70/70 cause the robots only have 5 spawn points.

Need some more Sakura Blooms if anyone doesnt mind me farming their world.

my Ganyu had a really good Blizzard set so I may have to share between the two for now. With Ayaka maxed with a maxed Mistsplitter she will have like 240% Crit Damage and over 2k attack.

I need to farm that new set for my Mona.

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Lukey_Bug
07/27/21 6:46:36 AM
#429:


So i have my commissions set on inazuma but i randomly got a destroy hilichurl towers quest in monstadt for some reason?

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Noraneko_Vel
07/27/21 7:22:51 AM
#430:


yeah sometimes i get 1 quest in mondstadt, 3 in inazuma

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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 9:13:10 AM
#431:


im thinking of levelling a second support

Who is the best between Qiqi, diona and barbara?

Qiqi is a 5* with a lot of heals and seems to do the most damage of the 3?
Diona has shields as well as heals, but less heals that Qiqi
Barbara has a cute swimsuit

I already got zonger

my go-to team rn is eula, fischle, zong and kazuha, but i also got traveller, sucrose and xingqiu at a high level

also, who would be a good second main dps? keqing or klee? i do plan on pulling for fireworks girl, maybe shes a dps

i feel like qiqi will skyrocket in the charts if they ever nerf shields, say with shield piercing damage
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Raikuro
07/27/21 9:28:35 AM
#432:


C6 Diona is the best of those options since the importance of shields and EM took over. You won't need to overkill on healing if you use shields properly. Though if the abyss next patch will be focused on making Kokomi look useable then wouldn't hurt to have a decent Qiqi around.
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Blue_Thunder
07/27/21 9:28:55 AM
#433:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
im thinking of levelling a second support

Who is the best between Qiqi, diona and barbara?

While Barbie's swimsuit is a compelling argument, Diona has the most synergy with Eula of those 3, given her element and energy generation (with sacrificial bow). I would try replacing Zhong with her and seeing how you like it. Her shield won't be up 100% like Zhongli's but she does provide cryo reso, cryo application, energy and heals as well as slight movement speed and stamina cost buffs from her passives when using the shield.
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Aitz
07/27/21 9:31:56 AM
#434:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
im thinking of levelling a second support

Who is the best between Qiqi, diona and barbara?

Qiqi is a 5* with a lot of heals and seems to do the most damage of the 3?
Diona has shields as well as heals, but less heals that Qiqi
Barbara has a cute swimsuit

I already got zonger

my go-to team rn is eula, fischle, zong and kazuha, but i also got traveller, sucrose and xingqiu at a high level

also, who would be a good second main dps? keqing or klee? i do plan on pulling for fireworks girl, maybe shes a dps

i feel like qiqi will skyrocket in the charts if they ever nerf shields, say with shield piercing damage

Qiqi is great but Diona imo is better. Diona can heal and also give shield based on her HP, she is the second best option to have for shield after Zhongli.

Klee can fit the second team with Sucrose, Xingqiu and Diona. Yoimiya is a main dps yes, she is gonna work very well with Xingqiu as well but I don't think you need her since you have Klee unless you like Yoimiya

Qiqi will get better when high healing will be needed to survive. I built her and she is no doubt great as of right now


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Kloe_Rinz
07/27/21 9:51:01 AM
#435:


diona it is

is she really that much better than even zongli with my team comp? with zongli i feel invincible since the only way my shields drop is if i forget to re-apply, or im fighting opponents much higher level than me
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Raikuro
07/27/21 9:59:18 AM
#436:


Uhhh nobody said Diona was better than Zhongli at shields. She's more of a secondary support if you're trying to have a another viable shielder for spiral abyss or bored of using him. She has so many small team buffs she is just all around more useful than just healing.
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Noraneko_Vel
07/27/21 10:14:23 AM
#437:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Who is the best between Qiqi, diona and barbara?

Qiqi is a pure healer and she basically makes your group invincible. However, other than healing, she doesn't help you in any other way, so in endgame she becomes underwhelming and easily replacable.

Barbara's skill is used for active and passive healing, but it applies hydro to you 4 times, meaning it can horribly screw you over if you constantly take cryo damage (freeze), electro damage (stagger), or pyro damage (x1.5).
Other than that, she is a dependable active healer because you can use her skill out of combat to heal everyone up, or use her burst to immediately fully heal everyone.
She can very easily apply hydro with her attacks, everyone who touches you during skill will be affected by hydro (good with cryo melee dps). She has utility in constellations like a hydro damage buff and auto-revive.

Diona starts off very bad, you definitely need to give full HP gear and some recharge to make her shine.
Her skill has good cryo energy generation and tiny cooldown, so she has fantastic synergy with characters like Eula and Ayaka who have high energy bursts. The shield also grants other buffs like damage reduction, movement speed and stamina efficiency.
Her burst places a field that deals cryo damage and only heals the on-field character. With good HP gear she'll heal enough to recover the HP of most of your group 1 by 1. At C6 she will also give you a large elemastery buff like Sucrose.
Her C1 effectively reduces her burst cost by 15.

Eula, Diona, Kazuha, Fischl might be a good team coz Diona will shield and let Eula burst more easily, while Fischl will add superconduct, Kazuha will gather and buff you.

Klee is far more useful than Keqing (pyro is the best element, she has geo break and groupwide energy recharge. Electro is underwhelming because of inconvenient reactions), but both are very powerful and useful to beginners.
If you really like Yoimiya as a character it doesn't matter, but otherwise be careful about Yoimiya, because she has the potential to either become underwhelming or powerful in 2 weeks depending on whether Mihoyo does something about her flaws.

How about Klee/Yoimiya, Xingqiu, Zhongli, Sucrose?

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Noraneko_Vel
07/27/21 10:21:18 AM
#438:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
i feel like qiqi will skyrocket in the charts if they ever nerf shields, say with shield piercing damage

Amusingly that's already very slowly happening, Inazuma's balethunder environmental damage pierces shields and I hear the 2.1 spiral abyss will have unavoidable constant damage.
The 2.1 banners have a 5* hydro subdps+healer+applier hybrid (overlap with Barbara!), Kokomi. And since Mihoyo is obnoxious about promoting their limited 5*s I can guarantee you they will find ways of making people want a healer.

Kloe_Rinz posted...
with zongli i feel invincible since the only way my shields drop is if i forget to re-apply, or im fighting opponents much higher level than me

Diona lets Eula recover energy faster and grants various buffs.

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DarkRoast
07/27/21 11:34:04 AM
#439:


Mom, I want Ayaka

Mom: We have Ayaka at home

Ayaka at home:



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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 11:46:29 AM
#440:


DarkRoast posted...
Mom, I want Ayaka

Mom: We have Ayaka at home

Ayaka at home:


Need to add Mona as well


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Blue_Thunder
07/27/21 12:36:21 PM
#441:


DarkRoast posted...
Mom, I want Ayaka

Mom: We have Ayaka at home

Ayaka at home:



XD

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Male Ayaka.
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DarkRoast
07/27/21 1:29:14 PM
#442:


Mayaka

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DarkRoast
07/27/21 9:07:14 PM
#443:


Artifact farming is cruel as sin

Controversial opinion, but so far I think Eula is better than Ayaka overall. Eula is a bit more gimmicky and situation-y, though.

For a while I went back and forth on normal damage and if it's a liability, but the fact is that if normal attacks hit for 20k and an ult hits for 500k, it probably doesn't matter.

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/21 1:01:17 AM
#444:


I got a gold and 2 purples.



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DarkRoast
07/28/21 1:30:09 AM
#445:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I got a gold and 2 purples.


The only way that could be more hax is if it had a billet

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/21 1:35:00 AM
#446:


DarkRoast posted...
The only way that could be more hax is if it had a billet
I got 2 billets this week lol

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DarkRoast
07/28/21 2:12:48 AM
#447:


I've been testing out my new C6s (Yanfei and Ningguang) thanks to this banner, and I can't believe how fucking crazy C6 Ning's DPS spike is.

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Noraneko_Vel
07/28/21 2:38:01 AM
#448:


This is getting horrible. My artifact inventory is constantly over 950 and rising even though I fodder all non-purples.

Maybe I should look into improving my Yanfei's Wanderer

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Irony
07/28/21 2:38:59 AM
#449:


This furnance questline has the worst pacing. I wish I knew how to start the other like 6 quests still floating around on the reputation board.

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/21 2:46:07 AM
#450:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
This is getting horrible. My artifact inventory is constantly over 950 and rising even though I fodder all non-purples.

Maybe I should look into improving my Yanfei's Wanderer
Fodder the purple. There's no reason to use anything except gold outside of a few edge cases.

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