Current Events > What videogame mechanic you really hate.. besides escort missions

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Randomized puzzles that you cannot look up a solution for. Especially in RPGs where you just want to move forward with the game.

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HylianFox posted...
Ironically, if there's one thing I loved about 'The Stanley Parable', it's that ALL the achievements are like this. The game's narrator even mocks you for attempting them.
Made me think about deadpool shortly after beginning the game you get an achievement and he looks at the screen and says "ohhh...its gonna be one of those games"

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On the flip side, there are the achievements that are only there to give the player a dopamine hit, like "Jump For the First Time" or "Kill Your First Slime" and other really basic shit.

Literally the video game equivalent of participation trophies...

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HylianFox posted...

On the flip side, there are the achievements that are only there to give the player a dopamine hit, like "Jump For the First Time" or "Kill Your First Slime" and other really basic shit.

Literally the video game equivalent of participation trophies...

Yeah thats what deadpool was making fun of. Game did have atleast of couple insanely hard trophies though. For me anyways. Shame that game came out before the movie. It was good but would have likely had a better budget if came after the movie. As it stands its a b grade hack in slash you'll only truly enjoy if you are a deadpool fan

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Star Wars Battlefront 2015 has a few insanely hard ones, like win once in each game mode. Some are easy, but modes like Hero Hunt are hideous. Originally, whoever got the kill shot got to be the next Hero/Villain. Then it changed to random pick iirc, then to whoever inflicted most damage during the current Hero/Villain.
Walker Assault also had a difficult one, namely be the Speeder that kills an AT-AT. First you have to get the Speeder token (hopefully someone isnt camping the spawn point), plus the tokens only show during the third and final segment.

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HylianFox posted...

One that gets under my skin are "trophies" and "achievements" that are nothing but obvious filler meant to pad out the game.

Like "Press (A) 5 Million Times" or "Complete the Game While Crab-Walking" or some shit

How they decide what's bronze, silver or gold often have no rhyme or reason. Some of the hardest to obtain trophies only give a bronze trophy, while the easiest give a silver or gold trophy.

Clear chapter 3, silver trophy. Clear chapter 4, gold trophy. Beat the optional super boss with a stick wearing nothing but your pajamas, bronze trophy.

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Tsukasa1891 posted...

How they decide what's bronze, silver or gold often have no rhyme or reason. Some of the hardest to obtain trophies only give a bronze trophy, while the easiest give a silver or gold trophy.

Clear chapter 3, silver trophy. Clear chapter 4, gold trophy. Beat the optional super boss with a stick wearing nothing but your pajamas, bronze trophy.

Its worse when its obtain all of x,y, and z collectibles.

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I hate that the trophy system on Playstation doesn't track "counting" trophies

HylianFox posted...

On the flip side, there are the achievements that are only there to give the player a dopamine hit, like "Jump For the First Time" or "Kill Your First Slime" and other really basic shit.

Literally the video game equivalent of participation trophies...

I've gotten trophies just for clicking new game and making it through the intro.

EbonTitanium posted...

Its worse when its obtain all of x,y, and z collectibles.

and some of those collectibles are missable.

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Tsukasa1891 posted...

I've gotten trophies just for clicking new game and making it through the intro.

I've always found it amusing that it isn't 100% rate for the "first" trophy in a game (like "Get out of X room!" and only 92.7% of people have....what happened to the other 7.3%?! Did they forget how to open a door??)

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Jump puzzles in games that aren't platformers.

Let me edit that - difficult jump puzzles in games that aren't platformers.

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NoxObscuras posted...

Level scaling. I hate it with a passion. It doesn't make the game harder, it just ruins the sense of progression. If I want to take my level 90 character back to the starting area and steamroll some level 2 rats, then let me do that.

This, massively. One of the most satisfying things is spending the time grinding to make yourself powerful so you can go back and steamroll shit.

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These fucking things, from back when physical PC games still existed:

HylianFox posted...

The fact that bad guys in FPS games never have to stop and reload, but I do.

WTF is up with that

Lol what FPS games are these? I feel like in every FPS game I've played, part of the strategy was to recognize and predict when an enemy would need to reload so I could come out of cover.

Also, as mentioned "surprise mechanics". EA does it really bad in FIFA, even WoW has started fucking doing it (the two games I mainly play as an adult).

It's fucking annoying to have the "chance" of obtaining the best item on the first day of a release, or you may NEVER see it. That type of design is pure trash. Games should reward time, effort and grinding, not the person who gets lucky.

Don't get me wrong, luck obviously plays a part to it, but the way games are designed, you can play/open as many lootboxes as possible and never see the uber rare item you want. I feel like previous game design meant that you could grind towards something and KNOW that you will eventually get it.

Let me use WoW as an example, at the moment gear is mainly all RNG, you can get it on your first drop of a dungeon in the patch, or you may literally never see it. In TBC, the same thing, except you also earn "Badge of Justice", so after a set amount of grinding dungeons, you will have enough of the currency to purchase an item that may fill that slot, or another one. So if you grind for 30 hours, you KNOW at the end of the 30 hours, you might have your dropped item AND the Badges for another item.

Game design where you can grind for those 30 hours and potentially have nothing? Garbage. Or worse than nothing, something shit that pretends to be your steak knives prize.

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level scaling complaints are weird to me
i literally can't imagine what's fun about fighting some piss-easy enemies that aren't worth my time, and games shouldn't be making me backtrack to those areas in the first place
unless the level scaling is straight-up just handled in a bad way, i don't see why people care

but on a similar note, tying damage and status effect infliction to level comparisons is pretty dumb

Illuminoius posted...

i literally can't imagine what's fun about fighting some piss-easy enemies that aren't worth my time, and games shouldn't be making me backtrack to those areas in the first place

catharsis.

That fucking screamer in the Krypt in MK9. Was it a secret stress test for your heart?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

These fucking things, from back when physical PC games still existed:

We could plausibly do an entire thread of just codewheels.

Questionmarktarius posted...

We could plausibly do an entire thread of just codewheels.

and the 6-8 floppy disks they come with. WHICH REQUIRES YOU TO SWITCH BETWEEN THEM BETWEEN EACH AREA OF THE GAME. Sorry for that. Just one thing I'm glad they will never bring back.

Ivany2008 posted...

and the 6-8 floppy disks they come with. WHICH REQUIRES YOU TO SWITCH BETWEEN THEM BETWEEN EACH AREA OF THE GAME.

The leap from 1.44MB floppies to 650MB CDs was pretty damn amazing.

I think the main reason I never got into PC gaming was because I grew up in an era where PCs sucked for gaming.

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HylianFox posted...

I think the main reason I never got into PC gaming was because I grew up in an era where PCs sucked for gaming.

85-95?

HylianFox posted...

On the flip side, there are the achievements that are only there to give the player a dopamine hit, like "Jump For the First Time" or "Kill Your First Slime" and other really basic shit.

Literally the video game equivalent of participation trophies...

This mostly stems from developers not liking the trophy thing to begin with but being forced to do it to be allowed to put their game on the console, so they just fill out the list with random shit

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Panthera posted...

so they just fill out the list with random shit

"you pressed start!"

TyVulpine posted...

I've always found it amusing that it isn't 100% rate for the "first" trophy in a game (like "Get out of X room!" and only 92.7% of people have....what happened to the other 7.3%?! Did they forget how to open a door??)

Yeah I dont expect 100% cause people buy games then never play them. But anything less than 99% raises an eyebrow

I guess people even on consolea are bad about backlogs. I mean I am but I usually play the starting area of any game I purchase before backlogging it

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"You have to knock these people out but avoid killing them because they're mind-controlled!"

Also multiplayer trophies.

Just multiplayer trophies in general, but ESPECIALLY when the multiplayer is either empty or shut down.

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jumi posted...

"You have to knock these people out but avoid killing them because they're mind-controlled!"

Also multiplayer trophies.

Just multiplayer trophies in general, but ESPECIALLY when the multiplayer is either empty or shut down.

Fuck multiplayer trophies/achievements. Sends my OCD through the roof when I see shit like "Reach #1 on the World rankings" or "Win 1,000 online matches" as I know I'll never have 100% on that game.

Currently just trading victories in Injustice with an online rando I met to clear the 100 online wins achievement. There's nothing about it that I actually find fun; I'm just stressing to get this done while there's still someone about playing and the servers are still (barely) functioning.

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SystemEgo posted...

Fuck multiplayer trophies/achievements. Sends my OCD through the roof when I see shit like "Reach #1 on the World rankings" or "Win 1,000 online matches" as I know I'll never have 100% on that game.

Currently just trading victories in Injustice with an online rando I met to clear the 100 online wins achievement. There's nothing about it that I actually find fun; I'm just stressing to get this done while there's still someone about playing and the servers are still (barely) functioning.

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jumi posted...

"You have to knock these people out but avoid killing them because they're mind-controlled!"

Also multiplayer trophies.

Just multiplayer trophies in general, but ESPECIALLY when the multiplayer is either empty or shut down.

Yeah I feel at the very least multiplayer should have a separate trophy list like dlcs do

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HylianFox posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

85-95?

There were a lot of fun PC games then.
Carmen Sandiego
Oregon Trail
Centauri Alliance (an obscure game I got for Christmas around 1991, was quite fun)
Star Trek: Borg

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I remember playing King's Quest, Space Quest and Police Quest and the later games in those series were like 21 disks

Derwood posted...

I remember playing King's Quest, Space Quest and Police Quest and the later games in those series were like 21 disks

Some of the game overs for those were funny. Especially the lock pick up the nose.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

These fucking things, from back when physical PC games still existed:

wait

what?

WTF?

Nathaniel2018 posted...

wait

what?

WTF?

A form of copyright protection. Games back then came with such gimmicks to deter pirates. Games would have you refer to things like that, or the instruction manual and have you turn to a specific page and input a certain word in order to continue the game.

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TyVulpine posted...

Nathaniel2018 posted...
A form of copyright protection. Games back then came with such gimmicks to deter pirates. Games would have you refer to things like that, or the instruction manual and have you turn to a specific page and input a certain word in order to continue the game.

AFAIK this is because more in depth DRM simply wasnt possible or feasable at the time due to the lower teq

Ive never encountered these myself, but i have dealt with CD Keys.

...which where usually ridicolously easy to bypass, as any key was legit, though in some cases (Cough Warcraft 3 cough) the key was also used for online access so you couldnt be online at the same time as someone else using the same key.

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TyVulpine posted...

I've always found it amusing that it isn't 100% rate for the "first" trophy in a game (like "Get out of X room!" and only 92.7% of people have....what happened to the other 7.3%?! Did they forget how to open a door??)

Right, like there's one in FF7 Remake for killing your first enemy which happens like a minute into the game. Who installed the game, sat thru the opening cutscene, and then turned it off and never played it again? I assume it's bots or something.

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All of them tbqh

Its an acquired taste for me

I want simulators & interactive adventures. Thats just how I was raised.

Darkninja42 posted...

Right, like there's one in FF7 Remake for killing your first enemy which happens like a minute into the game. Who installed the game, sat thru the opening cutscene, and then turned it off and never played it again? I assume it's bots or something.

I assume its digital downloads where they never get around to playing it they just impulse bought it

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I assume its digital downloads where they never get around to playing it they just impulse bought it

If just owning it, is what counts, then yeah, its definitely because they havent gotten around to playing it.

But i thought you needed to launch the game in order for it to be added?

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SuperVegitoFAN posted...

If just owning it, is what counts, then yeah, its definitely because they havent gotten around to playing it.

But i thought you needed to launch the game in order for it to be added?

Idk how that works to be honest

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Idk how that works to be honest

I cant say for playstation, but i distinctly remember that a games achievement list doesnt pop up until you boot the game.. atleast not back in the day on 360.

You can also delete it, if you havent gotten any achievements yet... which could maybe explain the Press Start achievements?

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SuperVegitoFAN posted...

I cant say for playstation, but i distinctly remember that a games achievement list doesnt pop up until you boot the game.. atleast not back in the day on 360.

You can also delete it, if you havent gotten any achievements yet... which could maybe explain the Press Start achievements?

It's the same for PS.

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Status effects that never work. Everything is either immune to them or the hit rate is so low it misses. If a status effect can work, then it should always hit. Otherwise there's no reason to use it when you could just attack.

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