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burns112233 07/18/21 6:00:15 PM #1: |
Could he lift Thor's hammer in Avengers 2, but decided not to make Thor feel bad?
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bnui_ransder 07/18/21 6:01:11 PM #2: |
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Tyranthraxus 07/18/21 6:01:15 PM #3: |
burns112233 posted...
Could he lift Thor's hammer in Avengers 2, but decided not to make Thor feel bad?He probably didn't care about Thor's feelings but more so everyone else if they figured out he could lift it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_BlueMonk 07/18/21 6:01:47 PM #4: |
yeah
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Pandamonic 07/18/21 6:01:48 PM #5: |
Carpathian 'Murica
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AlCalavicci 07/18/21 6:03:15 PM #6: |
He was being modest.
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pegusus123456 07/18/21 6:10:12 PM #7: |
I don't think so. Even with superhuman reflexes, I think he'd have picked it up before he both realized he could and decided he didn't want to show anyone else up.
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Laserion 07/18/21 6:13:40 PM #8: |
pegusus123456 posted...
I don't think so. Even with superhuman reflexes, I think he'd have picked it up before he both realized he could and decided he didn't want to show anyone else up.What if he already planned for it, and just tested it? Also, was Vision worthy? Or was he just an elevator or a crane? --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 07/18/21 6:16:24 PM #9: |
One could make the argument of him being too nice going by the comics apparently. Reason being is, as I've heard, the only catch in Cap being "worthy" is purely in the fact that he's not in a constant gung-ho fight mode or something like that as such when you turn off the "nice" he becomes worthy.
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Xerun 07/18/21 6:17:28 PM #10: |
Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor
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I4NRulez 07/18/21 6:18:46 PM #11: |
According to the director or writers i forget who it was the guilt of
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Tyranthraxus 07/18/21 6:33:26 PM #12: |
I4NRulez posted...
According to the director or writers i forget who it was the guilt of That was some pretty shitty writing then since he didn't even know about it when he moved the hammer the first time. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingThing 07/18/21 6:35:34 PM #13: |
You can't nudge or slightly move Mjolnir. It's all or nothing with that hammer. So the moment he felt it budge, he immediately started to pretend.
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pegusus123456 07/18/21 6:36:28 PM #14: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
I4NRulez posted...According to the director or writers i forget who it was the guilt of He did. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 07/18/21 6:41:34 PM #15: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
That was some pretty shitty writing then since he didn't even know about it when he moved the hammer the first time. *Winter Soldier Spoilers* Not saying that I agree with or defend the rationale here as to why he couldn't lift the hammer, but Cap knew about the event in question by that point. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/18/21 6:42:58 PM #16: |
pegusus123456 posted...
He did.How? Even Tony didn't know the wreck wasn't an accident. Bucky obviously wouldn't have told him. The only other person who knew was Zemo and Tony's parents were still alive when Steve was frozen. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 07/19/21 12:57:07 PM #17: |
masterpug53 posted...
Just rewatched that scene, and am reminded how amazing winter soldier really was. Great movie. Also yeah --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DB_Insider 07/19/21 1:01:31 PM #18: |
AlCalavicci posted...
He was being modest.-atk +sp atk Not a good nature for a physical attacker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 07/19/21 1:09:02 PM #19: |
KingThing posted...
You can't nudge or slightly move Mjolnir. It's all or nothing with that hammer. So the moment he felt it budge, he immediately started to pretend.Yup, thats why Thor got scared. --- When Kaidou fails to keep up with Luffy in their next fight remember this conversation - MrDrMan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 07/19/21 1:11:18 PM #20: |
I thought because Cap wasn't taking it seriously, he wasn't "truly worthy", the nudge basically was to tell you that he would be if it was ever in a situation that actually justified it (like in Endgame).
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Jiek_Fafn 07/19/21 1:13:33 PM #21: |
He fluctuated between worthy and not worthy during the movement
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fan357 07/19/21 1:14:07 PM #22: |
You can clearly see it move. He was being modest.
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BeyondWalls 07/19/21 1:14:43 PM #23: |
We could also just assume that the magic safeguards on the hammer started to diminish after Odin
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 07/19/21 1:15:24 PM #24: |
Steve did not want to show off, the hammer is a you can or you cant black and white. Knowing he could is all he cared about as you see the moment he stops trying and fakes it which if you watch Thors face he clearly was going oh shit.
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OldHorrorGuy 07/19/21 1:15:27 PM #25: |
Cap wasn't worthy because of his self doubt and worries over bucky.
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Lokison 07/19/21 1:15:39 PM #26: |
I stand by he could have lifted it, but as soon as he felt it move, he just stopped right away. He didnt WANT the hammer, and had no idea what it would mean if he did pick it up; would his friend Thor become essentially useless? What would everyone else that tried think?
The thing about Tony's Parents could have been part of it too though. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 07/19/21 1:19:03 PM #27: |
Thors feelings are what were in Steves mind, and again he did not want the hammer, so he was content knowing he could.
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OldHorrorGuy 07/19/21 1:20:59 PM #28: |
Better debate, but could Widow have lifted it?
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g0ldie 07/19/21 1:21:14 PM #29: |
I say yes, and that's why *Endgame spoilers*
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LightHawKnight 07/19/21 1:27:08 PM #30: |
BeyondWalls posted...
We could also just assume that the magic safeguards on the hammer started to diminish after Odin If that is true, then why would cap be able to use --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 07/19/21 1:27:10 PM #31: |
I thought it was blatantly clear as soon as I saw AOU that he was just pretending he couldnt. How is this even a discussion years later?
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monkmith 07/19/21 1:29:20 PM #32: |
doesn't thor give him a solid look while he's "trying" to lift the hammer? seemed like thor at least knew he was whiffing the attempt
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 07/19/21 1:36:40 PM #33: |
Thor knows Steve could lift in in AOU, he shows this via his face in shock, Steve then adjusts his grip and fakes it.
Steve has no reason to embarrass or fuck with Thors ego which is the point. Natasha probably could lift it too but does not care about it as she said. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 07/19/21 1:48:41 PM #34: |
BeyondWalls posted...
We could also just assume that the magic safeguards on the hammer started to diminish after Odin --- When Kaidou fails to keep up with Luffy in their next fight remember this conversation - MrDrMan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seaman_Prime 07/19/21 1:57:41 PM #36: |
If he did choose to pretend, then the hammer wouldnt see him as worthy anyways
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Holy_Cloud105 07/19/21 1:57:55 PM #37: |
I4NRulez posted...
According to the director or writers i forget who it was the guilt ofNo, this is wrong. In an Ask Me Anything thread on Reddit, the Russo brothers said he knew he could lift it in Age of Ultron but chose not to so he wouldn't embarrass Thor. --- Currently Playing: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - End of Saga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokison 07/19/21 2:03:57 PM #38: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
Yea, but he wasnt alive in Endgame. Still a moot point. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 07/19/21 2:05:10 PM #39: |
No.
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Xerun 07/19/21 5:45:34 PM #40: |
OldHorrorGuy posted...
Better debate, but could Widow have lifted it? Endgame spoilers --- Currently Playing: Slay the Spire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 07/19/21 5:48:58 PM #41: |
Xerun posted...
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Notti 07/21/21 2:11:04 AM #42: |
Not quite worthy yet.
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Guerrilla Soldier 07/21/21 2:34:44 AM #43: |
not yet but getting there
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008Zulu 07/21/21 4:00:22 AM #44: |
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No.Unless Thanos had spycams in Stark Tower, what edge is being given away? --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 07/21/21 4:01:15 AM #45: |
The edge against Thor
you dont think Cap trusted any of them do you? Look what happened in Civil War ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 07/21/21 6:04:43 AM #46: |
Thor wasn't in Civil War.
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Xethuminra 07/21/21 6:17:13 AM #47: |
008Zulu posted...
Thor wasn't in Civil War.Youre a fastidious man, arent you? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rapid99 07/21/21 6:25:14 AM #48: |
KingThing posted...
You can't nudge or slightly move Mjolnir. It's all or nothing with that hammer. So the moment he felt it budge, he immediately started to pretend. It's this. --- Formerly Smidge | The last ASCII artist. https://gfascii.art/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2SweetforTurtle 07/21/21 6:26:45 AM #49: |
Xethuminra posted...
The edge against Thor Steve isnt Batman. Steve trusted everybody. Thats literally the point of TWS. He was under culture shock the more time he spent around Fury and Widow, after realizing how much they lied to him through his first few years knowing them. By Civil War, Steves only major distrust was in Government, politicians, etc. He literally says the safest hands are still our own when asked to sign the Accords so that theres a governing body in charge of punishing super heroes. Steve trusted the Avengers. --- Slow and steady wins the race ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 07/21/21 6:37:37 AM #50: |
I mean, bro......
Yes, Im sure youre correct. And they were literally just setting up Endgame where Cap wields the hammer..... at the end of the day thats what that was & as well as depicting the bonding between the team, playing on Thors primitive personality with Caps coy goodwill. On that note, the Avengers was & is depicted as a group of people who share little common ground in terms of ideology & Cap pretty much abandons them at one point. Hulk, Iron Man, Thor are not people Steve should trust with his life right off the bat. So? Sure by Civil War he does, and it falls apart anyway, and he is not slow to go AWOL rogue. In AOU? I sincerely doubt it. I think theres numerous scenes where Captain America calls into question the allegiance & sanity of every original Avenger except Black Widow who I guess he was supposed to identify with? Thats what makes it so powerful whenever he makes a call to arms for the Avengers, despite everything they had been through. I dont trust you. And I shouldnt. But were all in this together. ~ thats Captain America without him, the team falls apart. Why do you think that is? They still lament his passing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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